| 00:13.04 | TukuiDevs | <Simpy> znf this happens when you need to reselect audio device in voice chat settings |
| 00:13.30 | znf | Oh |
| 00:13.40 | znf | Right. Windows upgrade. Shit changed. |
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| 08:03.19 | bluspacecow | soooo |
| 08:03.30 | bluspacecow | if I send mail with money in it to an alt |
| 08:03.38 | bluspacecow | should it arrive right away or is there a cooldown ? |
| 08:07.13 | VIad | mail to self is instant, mail to guildies is instant because of perk, I actually don't know if it's still 1h if you mail someone outside your guild, probably is like that still. :thinking: |
| 08:07.35 | bluspacecow | not on classic |
| 08:07.45 | bluspacecow | still waiting on ma 15 silver from an alt |
| 08:08.29 | VIad | well specify that because classic mail was always 1h I don't even think there were any exceptions to the time rule there |
| 08:08.42 | bluspacecow | oh sorry. This is on classic |
| 08:09.01 | bluspacecow | seems to be a combo |
| 08:09.13 | bluspacecow | things with money attached are delayed |
| 08:09.23 | bluspacecow | little notes to yourself with no money are instant |
| 08:11.48 | VIad | there was a weird thing back in the day when you mailed yourself (an alt) something but you had your sender on ignore list you'd get the mail but it would contain garbage like a memory leak type thing into the mail it was weird and dont know if anyone debugged exactly where the data was from, probably client in any case |
| 08:12.07 | bluspacecow | maybe is vampire ? |
| 08:14.37 | VIad | it would look like this https://i.imgur.com/GyS1J6p.png |
| 08:15.28 | bluspacecow | if I put that in a mail will Classic blow up ? |
| 08:15.48 | VIad | it's the 8.x client so it was fixed like by legion :p |
| 08:16.25 | VIad | probably won't do anything if you mail your alt and ignore your sender name. I don't remember if you ignore beforehand or after the mail is sent, easy to test both cases either way. |
| 08:23.06 | VIad | will be fun to play classic hunter again, this time I won't make the mistake teaching my pet growl and cower and have both on auto-cast |
| 08:24.36 | Maldivia | lol |
| 08:26.35 | VIad | if you play a warlock in classic, turn off the aoe taunt on your voidwalker it eats like half the mana pool it's insane |
| 08:26.57 | VIad | instead micro the pet to manually swap and taunt the new adds if you pull more than 1 more mana efficient |
| 08:35.16 | VIad | does anyone know of a device you can use to bridge a PC with another device and make the PC appear as a "external drive" so to speak for storage? |
| 08:35.49 | VIad | (via usb forgot to specify. can be one-way like only one device acts as the external drive, the other can work against it and the storage of it) |
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| 08:47.57 | VIad | seems there isn't a large market in adapters that you can place between your PC and another device and turn your PC into the "usb slave" as all PCs seem to come with a usb host only type interface :thinking: |
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| 15:15.14 | TSquare | Good Morning |
| 15:19.03 | xolan | o/ |
| 15:20.43 | Gethe_ | @TSquare: are there any plans for farther changes to /fstack? As it is on PTR it doesn't show any global names apart from UIParent. |
| 15:21.53 | TSquare | no plans currently, sorry. |
| 15:24.20 | Gethe_ | :( |
| 15:36.23 | nebula | and all this time i thought framestack was implemented in lua like Iriel's original devtools |
| 15:39.30 | Andols | Is fstack breaking? |
| 15:49.31 | Gethe_ | on live it is, it trips over frames that don't have global names. On PTR that seems fixed, but at the cost of seeing any global names. |
| 15:51.40 | Gethe_ | so it's usefulness is limited tbh if you need to look at any Blizzard created frame, especially older frames that don't use parentKeys. |
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| 16:11.36 | ls- | this, https://gist.github.com/ls-/d87976c23d9df9990d887f66b4044649, 100% breaks /fstack on ptr rn, but it works fine on live, frames are named, if they're nameless it wouldn't work on live either |
| 16:11.42 | ls- | @TSquare ^^^ |
| 16:11.46 | ls- | and hi o7 |
| 16:17.40 | TSquare | ok, I'll pass that bug on. Thanks for the test case! |
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| 16:22.24 | ls- | yw :D |
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| 16:44.47 | Stanzilla | TSquare: any news about the broken EditBox on the PTR? |
| 16:45.17 | Timosh | and class colored nameplates |
| 16:48.16 | TSquare | @Stanzilla - I'm sorry, I don't remember this one. Is it new to 8.2? |
| 16:49.23 | TSquare | @Timosh - we don't have plans to do class colored nameplates for 8.2 |
| 16:49.31 | TSquare | sorry |
| 16:52.24 | Timosh | what about friendly nameplates in raid? |
| 16:52.33 | Timosh | still forbidden? |
| 16:53.12 | AcidWeb | What about that new system to allow skin them without allowing anchors? |
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| 16:54.46 | TSquare | wait ... doesn't the cvar ShowClassColorInNameplate work? |
| 16:55.12 | Timosh | no |
| 16:55.19 | Timosh | its change status bar |
| 16:55.22 | Timosh | not name text color |
| 16:55.35 | TSquare | we want to make sure the new system works before we lift the constraint |
| 16:55.40 | TSquare | oh |
| 16:56.09 | Timosh | so you are ok about circles? |
| 16:56.15 | Timosh | and just dont like lines? |
| 16:56.20 | TSquare | I think so |
| 16:56.25 | TSquare | this is mostly coming from design |
| 16:56.30 | TSquare | so I'm not the final word on it |
| 16:58.00 | Stanzilla | TSquare: yeah it's this one https://github.com/Stanzilla/WoWUIBugs/issues/1 |
| 16:58.04 | AcidWeb | Color classed nicks and some way to remove server name from friendly plate in instances. |
| 16:58.13 | AcidWeb | Even that would be enought. |
| 16:58.31 | TSquare | sorry - I'm not taking requests for features at the moment |
| 16:58.43 | TSquare | I'm mostly trying to wrap up the patch |
| 16:58.57 | TSquare | and see what we can fix with the time we have |
| 16:59.09 | Stanzilla | EditBox has been broken since the first PTR build I think |
| 16:59.21 | AcidWeb | We whining about it since NP become restricted. |
| 17:00.48 | TSquare | I passed the link on to our QA, we will get a bug in an triage it with our others |
| 17:00.55 | TSquare | for the edit box |
| 17:01.36 | TSquare | on the nameplates issue - I can see a world where there is little customization here. |
| 17:01.44 | TSquare | My hope is that it does not come to that |
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| 17:07.45 | Timosh | does new system goes live with 8.2? |
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| 17:39.25 | foxlit | does framexml have any narrow vertical scrollbars? |
| 17:40.22 | foxlit | (I kind of have an annoyingly long dropdown that I want to add scrolling to) |
| 17:57.32 | Crosshash | The narrowest scrollbar was when the quest log was split in two for the maximized world map. |
| 17:57.48 | Crosshash | But it had no borders because there was plenty of contrast. |
| 17:58.12 | Crosshash | Er, not the quest log, the quest details. |
| 18:01.59 | foxlit | Thanks |
| 18:03.23 | Crosshash | The title dropdown used to have a scrollbar. |
| 18:04.01 | foxlit | and now it just lives in a scrollframe. |
| 18:04.41 | Crosshash | Yes, because some people didn't realized it was there and would contact CS that their titles were missing. |
| 18:07.33 | foxlit | that doesn't bode well for my cunning plan. |
| 18:08.18 | Crosshash | Maybe make the track colorful to stand out rather than blend in. |
| 18:08.39 | Funkeh` | blue on white |
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| 22:09.07 | foxlit | -- NOTE: Only width is currently supported, dropdown menus size vertically based on how many buttons are present. |
| 22:29.26 | foxlit | So I can't just make *one* frame to display like 20 entries with a scroll bar. |
| 22:34.16 | Crosshash | The title dropdown worked like a fauxscrollframe, only added enough buttons for max desired height |
| 22:41.22 | foxlit | it's a bit what the right amount of uidd involvement would be here. I think the options range from "pretend there's a nested level but don't populate it, displaying a custom frame in place of the dropdown list" to "create a number of custom entries and anchor a scrollbar across them, updating stuff as desired" to "overlay a scrollbar over the existing uidd list and mess with its native buttons to update the captions" |
| 22:43.17 | Crosshash | Must it be a dropdown? What about a popout frame that has the buttons and a scrollbar? |
| 22:44.25 | foxlit | unfortunately this list already has multiple levels. |
| 22:50.47 | Crosshash | You can still have a popout. Like when you right-click a chat tab and select Background in the dropdown. |
| 22:52.59 | foxlit | https://go-hero.net/i/6edvh93l.jpg << it's this dropdown. Annoyingly, its length is user-determined and unbounded: if people create too much stuff, it won't fit on screen. |
| 22:53.50 | foxlit | I think I can get away with reusing the a single instance of "Display a scrollable list in a bordered frame that looks kind of a dropdown" to both handle excessive primary entries (by stuffing them into some kind of "More >" sub-menu) and the nested lists (since only one can be visible at a time) |
| 22:56.02 | TSquare | what happens when the user clicks on one of the elements? |
| 22:56.25 | foxlit | the dropdown closes and the configuration panel updates based on the selected element. |
| 22:57.21 | TSquare | Would the configuration panel work better with a list on the side? then those dropdown categories can become filter options |
| 22:57.59 | TSquare | It just seems that this model is not working for the data you want to use, and needs a re-design |
| 22:59.17 | nevcairiel | or you know, make a dropdown that isn't so extremely limited :D |
| 23:00.13 | TSquare | sure, blame the tool :P |
| 23:00.30 | foxlit | I don't know. I don't think I'd want (or have the space to have) the list to be permanently visible. |
| 23:00.54 | TSquare | ok, I was just trying to see if there was another design that could work for you. |
| 23:01.29 | foxlit | On some level, I don't actually have a problem: for my use case, everything fits. I'd just like it to fail less hard on pathological cases. |
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| 23:10.37 | eke00372 | blizzard fucked nameplates distance in classic wow? |
| 23:11.27 | nevcairiel | no, it just used to be really low :p |
| 23:11.41 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> 20 |
| 23:14.43 | eke00372 | well, cant change anymore... |
| 23:16.00 | nebula | http://i.imgur.com/SqFj81l.png why do people have to be so mean to dropdowns D; |
| 23:18.56 | nevcairiel | eke00372: nochanges! |
| 23:32.17 | Arrowmaster | I got a call today from a recuriter looking for somebody with Lua experience |
| 23:33.54 | Arrowmaster | Job Description: |
| 23:33.54 | Arrowmaster | · Key skill needed: LUA scripting language. |
| 23:33.54 | Arrowmaster | · LUA knowledge is highly desirable since it is a very difficult scripting language to learn. |
| 23:33.54 | Arrowmaster | · Experience developing automation scripts. |
| 23:34.05 | nebula | LUA |
| 23:34.06 | Arrowmaster | That was the entirity of the job description emailed to me |
| 23:37.38 | nevcairiel | Are you sure they are talking a bout the same Lua, because its one of the easiest thing to learn ever |
| 23:37.56 | nebula | he's talking about LUA not Lua |
| 23:40.00 | Arrowmaster | I told him I would think and send him my current resume, considering telling him to fuck off since I'm 99% sure hes an offshore indian recuriter and sent me the typical offshore indian recuriter requirements to be submitted |
| 23:40.45 | Arrowmaster | Like there is no fucking way in hell I'm giving him the last 4 of my SSN and my DOB |
| 23:41.09 | Meorawr | You'd give that information to us though, right? |
| 23:42.03 | Arrowmaster | 4206 9/69 |
| 23:48.33 | nevcairiel | CVs typically include parts of the SSN? What the hell for? |
| 23:52.50 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:53.10 | Arrowmaster | the clearly offshore indian recruiters try to ask for it |
| 23:53.31 | Corrodias | instant scam red flag |
