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| 16:22.31 | TSquare | Good Morning |
| 16:22.42 | TukuiDevs | <Merathilis> o/ |
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| 17:13.47 | Alram | TSquare: not technically your department I guess but any updates on post 8.2 sound replacements? |
| 17:14.42 | Alram | RC/lockdown is likely approaching soon and I don't feel like there's been any word about it yet |
| 17:18.52 | Funkeh` | did they ever officially support changing sounds with your own? |
| 17:20.06 | nevcairiel | not really, but they did say they might look into it |
| 17:20.37 | Funkeh` | It should really be done via the addon system and a proper api |
| 17:20.52 | Alram | it was officially supported as in it has been specifically allowed as a local override since forever |
| 17:21.01 | Alram | but yeah i'm not sure it was ever officially mentioned anywhere |
| 17:21.13 | nevcairiel | there is a difference between "it works" and "officially endorsed" |
| 17:21.29 | Alram | naturally |
| 17:21.34 | Alram | doesn't mean i can't ask about it though :D |
| 17:21.50 | Alram | expecting an actual answer on the other hand, we'll see |
| 17:21.57 | Alram | i'd rather ask someone on IRC first before I start mailing people |
| 17:31.31 | znf | wait |
| 17:31.44 | znf | is 8.2 removing the ability to override sounds? |
| 17:31.50 | Alram | not exactly |
| 17:31.55 | Alram | it is removing filenames from 99% of the files |
| 17:32.01 | Alram | considering sound overrides use filenames |
| 17:32.06 | Alram | sort of removing |
| 17:32.07 | znf | shit |
| 17:32.16 | Alram | the code is still there |
| 17:32.33 | Alram | it just doesn't know what sounds are what filenames so its pretty dormant |
| 17:32.41 | Alram | or useless is the better word |
| 17:34.06 | Alram | then again it is only an issue for a very small part of the playerbase that just can't deal with some of the sounds |
| 17:34.22 | Alram | 99% of which aren't complaining now because they don't know yet |
| 17:35.30 | znf | λ c:\Windows\GnuWin32\bin\find.exe . -type f | wc -l |
| 17:35.30 | znf | 221 |
| 17:35.31 | znf | :-/ |
| 17:36.22 | znf | I'm overriding over 200 sounds :-/ |
| 17:37.12 | Alram | not for much longer you're not |
| 17:38.00 | znf | :( |
| 17:38.06 | znf | literally unplayable |
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| 18:01.53 | TomCat | maybe a secure hook can be used to immediately stop playing the requested sound so that the user never hears it |
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| 20:10.48 | Chipzz | anyone know where Resike is hanging out? |
| 20:11.00 | Chipzz | hasn't been in here since January |
| 20:13.41 | TukuiDevs | <Simpy> on discord |
| 20:14.08 | Chipzz | ah... |
| 20:14.23 | Chipzz | well that's one reason to hate on the shitty discord bot |
| 20:14.37 | Chipzz | can't see who is and who is not online :S |
| 20:16.02 | TukuiDevs | <Simpy> resike is in wowuidev discord and wow addons discord |
| 20:16.23 | Chipzz | *nod* |
| 20:16.38 | Chipzz | but there's no way you can see from IRC who is and who is not in there |
| 20:16.50 | Chipzz | not without them talking |
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| 20:17.41 | ls- | just @ him, he'll be pinged in discord |
| 20:17.54 | ls- | probably O_o |
| 20:18.00 | ls- | @Resike ??? |
| 20:18.04 | Chipzz | I know |
| 20:18.19 | Chipzz | the point I was trying to make is that the discord bot is bad technology |
| 20:18.29 | Chipzz | 22:16 < Chipzz> but there's no way you can see from IRC who is and who is not in there |
| 20:20.26 | Chipzz | @Resike: where are you getting this information from? https://github.com/Resike/BlizzardInterfaceResources/blob/master/Resources/WidgetReference.lua#L215 |
| 20:20.51 | Chipzz | specifically the names of the arguments to the handlers |
| 20:21.55 | Chipzz | is there a way to obtain that information automatically or is it just guesswork? |
| 20:23.13 | ls- | https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source/blob/live/FrameXML/UI.xsd#L1261-L1273 |
| 20:24.15 | Chipzz | ls-: hum, no? |
| 20:24.37 | Chipzz | ls-: where in that file do you see the string "self, requested"? |
| 20:24.50 | ls- | ah, you meant those... |
| 20:24.53 | Chipzz | ls-: that only lists the names of the handlers |
| 20:25.02 | Chipzz | not the *arguments* to the handlers |
| 20:25.15 | ls- | I thought you meant the handlers' names :D |
| 20:26.04 | Chipzz | nope :) |
| 20:26.27 | Chipzz | the only "info" I've found so far is usage in Blizzard code |
| 20:26.45 | Chipzz | and it's possible for that to not use all the arguments |
| 20:26.46 | ls- | well, prob registered a bunch of function(...) end and then tested them, or from Blizz code |
| 20:27.18 | Chipzz | well testing would be pretty hard since you would have to guess the exact name of the args |
| 20:27.18 | ls- | or asked Dan and/or Tom about them |
| 20:27.32 | ls- | I saw people asking this stuff here |
| 20:27.39 | Chipzz | only thing I can think of is the debug* functions |
| 20:29.05 | Chipzz | debuglocals() maybe... |
| 20:31.02 | foxlit | Chipzz: https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/7.2.5/Helix/WidgetAPI.lua |
| 20:32.21 | Chipzz | foxlit: ok, but that still doesn't anser my question where you're getting that info from :) |
| 20:32.42 | Chipzz | some kind of .db2 ? |
| 20:32.51 | Chipzz | or reverse engineering the .exe? |
| 20:33.25 | Chipzz | or debuglocals() in a handler? |
| 20:35.59 | ls- | trade secrets :> |
| 20:36.58 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> trade secrets for what? I have secrets and dreams. |
| 20:40.17 | foxlit | the handler signatures are in the exe; it needs them for loadstring'ing code from the xml tags. |
| 20:41.22 | Chipzz | the latter part I figured out myself :) I need them for my emulator too :) |
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| 20:50.31 | Ketho | didn't they obfuscate the exe since 7.3.0? I didn't know we could just grep it for stuff |
| 20:51.49 | Chipzz | Ketho: uhu, notice how the link foxlit pasted was 7.2.5 |
| 20:52.42 | Chipzz | not sure if that's related but could be :) |
| 20:57.14 | ls- | [03:55] Resike: Chipzz: There are only a handful of script handlers and i worked with most of them or checked blizz code or this old site: |
| 20:57.14 | ls- | https://web.archive.org/web/20170903092106/http://wowprogramming.com/docs/scripts |
| 20:57.14 | ls- | [03:55] Resike: Aint gonna intall IRC |
| 21:08.27 | Alram | text section isn't obfuscated |
| 21:16.21 | Funkeh`` | is there a giant list of cvars somewhere |
| 21:16.59 | Ketho | yes |
| 21:17.03 | Ketho | https://wow.gamepedia.com/Console_variables |
| 21:17.06 | Alram | you can get that via console even I think |
| 21:17.09 | Alram | cvarlist |
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| 22:52.38 | Mr_Rabies | https://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/1105689-can-i-post-here/ |
| 22:59.09 | Val2 | i guess i can xD |
| 23:29.32 | Funkeh`` | was it deleted? |
| 23:41.23 | Semlar | i guess it was |