| 00:01.56 | Funkeh` | fork will only happen if the difference becomes insane |
| 00:02.10 | Funkeh` | like they don't update the patch level classic is at for say, a year |
| 00:02.45 | Funkeh` | If it incrementaly catches up now and then, it should be bearable |
| 00:10.45 | Stanzilla | that's what I hope they will clarify in a blue post someday, yeah |
| 00:10.52 | Stanzilla | status last week was "we don't know yet" |
| 00:38.50 | Arrowmaster | I bought a new phone, its not a huge phone but wow this is still much bigger than I'm used to |
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| 00:40.25 | nebula | i had a 3" screen for the longest time and didn't really think i'd care for a larger phone, but after getting used to a 5.5" screen i'm not sure i could go back |
| 00:48.20 | Arrowmaster | I just went from a Nexus5X to a Pixel3aXL |
| 00:48.42 | Arrowmaster | I couldn't resist that extra 700mAh of battery |
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| 08:30.14 | VIad | I opted in the classic beta, and got a shady looking e-mail later to confirm my e-mail, but the url does check out to blizzard.com so I trusted it, and looked fine. just suspicious since it's the ideal time to send scam mails, as classic is announced to have a beta opt in :D |
| 08:35.20 | nevcairiel | you shouldnt get an email for beta opt-in, its just done through your b.net account afterall |
| 08:40.33 | nebula | rip VIadâs account |
| 08:41.51 | VIad | it did look shady but the url was https://account.classic.blizzard.com/email-set/eur/en-US/<hash> |
| 08:42.36 | VIad | so it does check out to be legit, and didn't ask me to login and pre-filled account name and e-mail to confirm and I just clicked yes. |
| 09:34.00 | VIad | nevcairiel: I did opt in via the normal means, but got an follow up e-mail to confirm something after that, just havent seen that sub domain before |
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| 10:06.59 | VIad | if I want to order let's say the 15 years anniversary I have to order from US because blizzard EU/UK apparently don't recognize the trading agreement between EU and Norway so my country isn't a valid shipping destination. I would have to pay 100$ then 70$ for shipping, not to mention like 30% tax for import of that 170$ because they can, it will become the most expensive thing I own if I buy it :P |
| 10:07.48 | nevcairiel | just get it from amazon or some other retailer |
| 10:08.18 | nevcairiel | also, if $170 is the most expensive thing you own, i pitty you =p |
| 10:09.03 | VIad | most expensive "useless" thing I own. I have no other statues or anything like that :p |
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| 11:32.58 | znf | How many weeks since BoD got released? |
| 11:35.37 | znf | Anyway, it's been (BoD release date / 7) weeks of getting only shit from the weekly M+ chest |
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| 12:59.13 | VIad | I wonder what the best "pro" reason for using metatable is. I know there are more cons than pros, so was just thinking what else besides facilitating the ability to use + to combine two tables with whatever method you define in the metatable :p |
| 13:06.05 | Constie | Pro: "metatable" sounds like something pretty advanced, so if you're using them you're presumably really smart. |
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| 13:14.08 | VIad | only benefit is if you like have a library to represent various concepts like vectors, graphs, whatnot, you could use metatables to keep the logic for the mathematical operations part of the objects themselves. not mandatory but a nice benefit. |
| 13:15.32 | nevcairiel | Thats like asking "whats the pro/con of using a hammer" .. you know the answer greatly depends on what your task is. Hammering a nail? Perfect. Opening a can? You might get it done, but there are much better options! |
| 13:21.40 | VIad | I get the metaphor, but in lua using a table is the hammer whereas the metatable is like the accessory you can get installed on top of the hammer, you don't need it but it can look cooler with it if done right :p |
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| 13:29.33 | VIad | I noticed a store accepting pre-orders for the CE box for the same price, but shipping is free. nice way to one-up blizzard I guess. |
| 13:29.50 | VIad | (cdon.com if any other norwegian wondered what store I stumbled upon) |
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| 15:53.52 | TSquare | Good Morning |
| 15:54.02 | AcidWeb | o7 |
| 15:54.03 | Cairenn | hey |
| 15:54.45 | Cairenn | @all - Please contact me if you are doing addons for Classic WoW |
| 16:18.31 | mitch0 | Cairenn: you can just check-out the old versions of addons, no? :) |
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| 17:01.05 | Cairenn | mitch0: That's not why I'm asking |
| 17:01.35 | Cairenn | I have an opportunity to get people (who are serious about doing addons for Classic WoW) into the beta, as always |
| 17:02.29 | Cairenn | @all - Please contact me if you are doing addons for Classic WoW |
| 17:06.36 | AcidWeb | They enabling addons from day1? |
| 17:06.47 | AcidWeb | beta day 1 |
| 17:07.56 | znf | they tend to do that these days |
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| 17:42.42 | Tercioo | will addons use the 8.1 API on classic? things like CombatLogGetCurrentEventInfo() |
| 17:44.53 | Mr_Rabies | they haven't said exactly which version it's going to be based on yet, or if it's going to have relative parity with live, as far as i know |
| 17:46.16 | Mr_Rabies | i think the last playable beta was set on 7.3.5 but i think they sort of implied the codebase is going to be more up to date for the final release |
| 17:50.12 | Alram | it is closer to 8.1 now |
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| 20:13.30 | Simca_ | i mean... you can just grep wowb.exe for that function name |
| 20:13.40 | Simca_ | if it isn't there, it's probably using old api for combat logs |
| 20:15.05 | Simca_ | it's there |
| 20:16.14 | Simca_ | cute, looks like the strings that immediately follow it in the exe are from an array of possible combat log event names |
| 20:16.28 | Simca_ | i'll pastebin that, cause i'm pretty sure it's different from live's |
| 20:18.37 | nevcairiel | combatlog will likely be one of the messier things |
| 20:18.40 | nevcairiel | since some concepts changed |
| 20:20.30 | Simca_ | https://pastebin.com/x5qrU30G |
| 20:20.42 | Simca_ | some of those are definitely not on live |
| 20:20.48 | Simca_ | like "LOYALTY_GAINED" |
| 20:21.08 | Simca_ | err "UNIT_LOYALTY" actually |
| 20:22.52 | nebula | neat, they absorb events are there |
| 20:22.56 | nebula | the* |
| 20:24.06 | Simca_ | https://pastebin.com/uVYD7aTc live |
| 20:24.40 | Simca_ | and nah, only 2 of the like 5-6 absorb events is there |
| 20:25.07 | Simca_ | i think the ones that are there are probably for receiving absorbed damage, not applying absorb to a player, so that may still be untrackable |
| 20:26.17 | Simca_ | made a mistake in the first pastebin actually, a couple of lines still combined. https://pastebin.com/d0bTfPQ2 is correct classic one |
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| 20:32.46 | Fisker | bodyguards confirmed Simca_ |
| 20:33.03 | Simca_ | lol. |
| 20:33.14 | Simca_ | that or hunter pets, but i'm sure it's bodyguards |
| 20:33.26 | Fisker | I thought it was hunter pets |
| 20:33.36 | Fisker | But joked that it was bodyguards |
| 20:34.36 | Simca_ | it was a good joke, you should have made an mmoc thread about it |
| 20:35.08 | Simca_ | like that one where somebody claimed BMAH was going to be in classic because classic.wowhead.com listing for a classic item says "Found in Black Market Auction House" or something |
| 20:35.58 | nebula | lol |
| 20:37.27 | Fisker | :O |
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| 21:13.24 | Tercioo | there's other stuff different like DAMAGE_CRIT, HEAL_CRIT |
| 21:13.32 | Tercioo | probably will need some tweaks |
| 21:13.52 | Tercioo | and a new skin to fit damage meters used in 2004, full immersion |
| 21:17.07 | EsreverWoW | Simca, I've been tracking events/API changes in Classic from the recent 1.13.2 builds working from Ketho's repo. The bulk of it is here https://github.com/EsreverWoW/BlizzardInterfaceResources/commit/bfdb9f726205f86c92ab638e6fc931770df1f310. |
| 21:17.28 | EsreverWoW | Not the most perfect of dumps, but it was mostly for my own personal reference. |
| 21:21.09 | znf | Tercioo, iirc, they changed most of the stuff to fit the old combat log format |
| 21:21.29 | znf | so spells and abilities function like they used to |
| 21:21.49 | znf | think it was specifically something about how absorbs shields worked |
| 21:22.48 | Simca_ | yeah the four main events related to applying absorbs don't exist |
| 21:23.06 | Simca_ | placing a power word shield will be pure guesswork again |
| 21:23.10 | Simca_ | just like the good old days |
| 21:23.35 | Simca_ | i bet you'll love reviving decade old code to guess at the strength of absorbs |
| 21:24.29 | EsreverWoW | Seems to be v9 of the combat log format. 5/1 14:29:58.131 COMBAT_LOG_VERSION,9,ADVANCED_LOG_ENABLED,0 |
| 21:24.46 | Simca_ | EsreverWoW: yeah those changes don't list the ones I posted above, i guess because the api documentation doesn't list CLEU subevents |
| 21:24.53 | Simca_ | https://www.diffchecker.com/HLl629nT is a quick diff of them |
| 21:25.01 | Simca_ | classic on left, ptr on right |
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| 21:50.56 | EsreverWoW | Beta is live it seems now. |
| 21:53.45 | Mr_Rabies | watchin' asmond in northshire and he's giddy lol |
| 21:56.53 | Mr_Rabies | asmon rather |
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| 22:21.48 | Chipzz | twitch.tv/lirik ; is this Classic WoW Beta or illegal server? |
| 22:21.52 | Ketho | yay ShowHelm() is back |
| 22:22.11 | Chipzz | it has the arrow bag, no keyring, but bug reporter addon wihch is recent |
| 22:22.15 | Chipzz | so a little confuse |
| 22:22.16 | Chipzz | d |
| 22:23.07 | Alram | classic beta |
| 22:23.45 | Alram | no keyring until you get your first key |
| 22:24.00 | Chipzz | ah so beta is finally open? |
| 22:24.07 | Chipzz | or limited to personel family? |
| 22:24.41 | Alram | media/streamers/some f&f |
| 22:27.12 | EsreverWoW | Chipzz, it looks like the beta. |
| 22:28.16 | Stanzilla | looks like they killed nameplate anchoring in the latest 8.2 PTR https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504369343367348275/578347113096806400/image0.jpg |
| 22:28.50 | Stanzilla | at least the new "line" type of thing that came up with the DazarAlor raid |
| 22:29.38 | Chipzz | locked at 30? |
| 22:30.17 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 22:30.21 | Stanzilla | try reading the blog post about it |
| 22:31.04 | Chipzz | oh I missed that I guess |
| 22:32.16 | Tercioo | is this rip nameplate addons? |
| 22:32.40 | Chipzz | Stanzilla: link? just checked mmo-c and only a short announcement but no blog post |
| 22:32.46 | Cairenn | @all - Please contact me if you are doing addons for Classic WoW - compilations don't count, as always |
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| 22:34.07 | Maldivia | hmm what API is available for classic? |
| 22:35.25 | Ketho | https://github.com/EsreverWoW/BlizzardInterfaceResources/blob/classic/Resources/API.txt |
| 22:35.54 | Stanzilla | Chipzz: https://www.wowhead.com/news=291716/wow-classic-release-date-is-august-27th-beta-starts-may-15th |
| 22:41.01 | Justwait | I dont like seeing what you posted Stanzilla ;( |
| 22:41.21 | Stanzilla | Justwait: I considered highlighting you with it |
| 22:41.33 | Stanzilla | then I thought, he will find out soon enough :D |
| 22:43.28 | pompy | ~lart Stanzilla |
| 22:43.28 | purl | moos at Stanzilla |
| 22:43.35 | Stanzilla | yeah okay |
| 22:43.39 | Chipzz | Stanzilla: thx! :) |
| 22:44.01 | Justwait | Stanzilla, I still see it working kinda |
| 22:44.13 | EsreverWoW | I'm interested to see what ends up as the main threat library/addon for Classic since there isn't reporting from the client like in 3.0+. |
| 22:44.37 | Stanzilla | Justwait: if it's just GetCenter() it might still work just fine in most cases |
| 22:44.44 | nevcairiel | this is an 8.1 client basically, did they remove the threat API? |
| 22:45.32 | Justwait | https://streamable.com/hbcaz |
| 22:45.47 | Justwait | just gotta iron out the error and it might be fine |
| 22:48.43 | Stanzilla | great, like I said, I think they are targetting the "line" weakauras |
| 22:49.04 | nevcairiel | great now Stanzilla is causing more game to be broken! :D |
| 22:49.16 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: it's a baseline feature in DBM I think |
| 22:49.51 | nevcairiel | I h ave not once ever installed DBM, and I'm not about to change that :D |
| 22:50.13 | Stanzilla | just trying to shift the blame here |
| 22:50.28 | Semlar | wait what are they doing to nameplates? |
| 22:50.30 | nevcairiel | wouldnt surprise me if shifty things like that would appear there |
| 22:50.46 | nevcairiel | messing with nameplates too much was always bad in the past, should know better |
| 22:50.46 | Semlar | is this something that's going to break crosshairs |
| 22:50.50 | Mr_Rabies | i knew whatever dbm was using to draw the line to the raptors on the counsel fight in BoD was going to get killed pretty fast |
| 22:50.58 | Stanzilla | Semlar: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504369343367348275/578347113096806400/image0.jpg |
| 22:51.39 | Semlar | i don't understand, wouldn't this break all nameplate addons |
| 22:52.03 | Stanzilla | I have about as much info than you do |
| 22:52.11 | Stanzilla | just picked this up from some random chatter in discord |
| 22:52.35 | Semlar | i mean this is normal behavior currently for friendly nameplates inside of instances |
| 22:52.38 | Mr_Rabies | probably a sacrifice they're willing to make |
| 22:52.55 | Mr_Rabies | at this point addons mostly seem to be a can of worms that they can't close back up to blizzard, so |
| 22:52.55 | Semlar | is there more context for this screenshot |
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| 22:53.52 | Semlar | you can't prevent someone from drawing a line to a nameplate without also preventing them from customizing the nameplates in general |
| 22:54.17 | Stanzilla | just a few screenshots |
| 22:54.17 | Stanzilla | https://i.imgur.com/5P0WuQ6.png |
| 22:54.20 | Justwait | customizing nameplates still works |
| 22:54.28 | Stanzilla | skinning still works |
| 22:54.29 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 22:54.30 | Justwait | they prevent you from getting any x y coords of the nameplates or anchor to it |
| 22:54.35 | Justwait | aka no more buffs etc above nameplates |
| 22:54.45 | Justwait | it looks like |
| 22:54.53 | Semlar | you can't *skin* a nameplate without anchoring to it, i don't understand what that means |
| 22:56.26 | Semlar | are you sure this addon isn't just trying to access the nameplates that are already inaccessible in dungeons |
| 22:56.49 | Stanzilla | well Semlar I guess your time has come |
| 22:57.04 | Stanzilla | destructor of nameplates, father of cheap hacks |
| 22:57.07 | Semlar | is this up on the ptr? |
| 22:57.10 | Stanzilla | download the PTR and fix everything |
| 22:57.11 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 22:57.22 | Semlar | do i have like 90gb to install it |
| 22:57.27 | Simca_ | no |
| 22:57.30 | Semlar | i'll have to check my hard drive |
| 22:57.31 | Simca_ | like 5 |
| 22:57.52 | Simca_ | the requirement is so little that if you can't meet it, you have other problems |
| 22:58.00 | Semlar | there's no way it's 5gb |
| 22:58.10 | Mr_Rabies | if you have the live client |
| 22:58.12 | Simca_ | it's literally the same installation |
| 22:58.13 | Mr_Rabies | they share a data folder now |
| 22:58.19 | Semlar | why would i have the live client |
| 22:58.27 | Stanzilla | Semlar is a Warframe god now |
| 22:58.30 | Simca_ | i see |
| 22:58.32 | Stanzilla | ain't no space for WoW in that life |
| 22:58.36 | Semlar | i'm free |
| 22:59.22 | Semlar | alright the launcher is having a fit because it's trying to update something at the same time i'm trying to get it to install the ptr |
| 23:01.31 | Semlar | on the plus side it lets you launch the game after it's only downloaded like 5% of it |
| 23:03.02 | Simca_ | trying to draw nameplates crashes the game for me, so that's a good change |
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| 23:05.10 | Semlar | alright which button disables all of these helpful tooltips |
| 23:06.28 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> @Stanzilla, oUF Based Nameplates seem unaffected. Just testing ElvUI, Tukui and bdNameplates |
| 23:06.44 | Stanzilla | interesting |
| 23:06.52 | Simca_ | ThreatPlates is completely broken |
| 23:07.15 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.33 | Stanzilla | come back tomorrow I guess |
| 23:07.34 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> I wonder if its the .unitFrame that can't be tweaked |
| 23:08.03 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> well .UnitFrame because the other is oUF |
| 23:08.06 | Stanzilla | https://i.imgur.com/t8RnTPh.png |
| 23:08.37 | Tercioo | Plater.lua:7479: Cannot perform restricted action: GetPoint() on NamePlate3PlaterUnitFrame which is an anchor restricted frame |
| 23:09.01 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> so their unitframe is restricted |
| 23:09.22 | Semlar | going by stanzilla's screenshot the entire nameplate is restricted |
| 23:09.52 | Semlar | i can't enter a dungeon so uh |
| 23:10.01 | Justwait | targetdummies? |
| 23:10.04 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/222356141785612288/578342616580751360/10b4ep7XmK.gif |
| 23:10.12 | Semlar | it can only be tested inside of an instance |
| 23:10.24 | Semlar | that's where nameplates are restricted |
| 23:10.28 | Justwait | uhm |
| 23:10.29 | Justwait | no |
| 23:10.37 | Justwait | I am getting these errors in dazar alor main city as well |
| 23:10.51 | Justwait | this is a everywhere kinda thing |
| 23:12.30 | Simca_ | it happens everywhere |
| 23:12.39 | Simca_ | there are no plates anywhere using threatplates on ptr |
| 23:13.18 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> https://imgur.com/CqmdidQ |
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| 23:16.25 | Semlar | i have no idea where the addon directory for the ptr is |
| 23:17.12 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> same as retail but under ptr |
| 23:17.28 | Semlar | the launcher has the ptr and my old install as the same directory |
| 23:17.36 | Semlar | but it's obviously not using my addons folder |
| 23:17.59 | Simca_ | root\_ptr_\Interface\AddOns\ |
| 23:18.01 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.04 | Simca_ | where root is base install directory |
| 23:18.04 | Semlar | ah |
| 23:18.45 | Simca_ | hey @marlamin what's classic and classic beta use for that folder name slug? |
| 23:19.39 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> should be classic |
| 23:19.43 | nevcairiel | does it install in the same folder? thats neat |
| 23:20.01 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> yes and it uses combined data |
| 23:20.14 | nevcairiel | well if the one is true, so must the other |
| 23:20.16 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> like if you download ptr.. it copies that data to retail once it goes live |
| 23:20.32 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> so it saves bandwidth |
| 23:20.51 | Semlar | well i can tell you semlarplates works fine |
| 23:20.59 | Semlar | crosshairs does not |
| 23:21.18 | Semlar | which is interesting |
| 23:21.21 | Simca_ | isn't semlarplates the one that radically repositions them? |
| 23:21.36 | Simca_ | why would that still work |
| 23:21.51 | Semlar | nah it just restyles them |
| 23:22.03 | Semlar | which means you can clearly still anchor to them |
| 23:22.20 | Semlar | i'll have to investigate what exactly is being restricted here |
| 23:22.35 | Simca_ | i think threatplates 'replaces' them, anchoring to it but hiding the originals |
| 23:22.43 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.50 | nevcairiel | if I had to guess, its position retrieval and perhaps anchoring to both the plate and a non-plate frame |
| 23:23.14 | nevcairiel | basically some of the hacks people used to make it non-slow in the past |
| 23:23.22 | nevcairiel | and people now also use to make stuff point to plates |
| 23:23.24 | Semlar | i don't touch the original nameplate at all, i just use whatever the api returns for the nameplate frame to anchor to |
| 23:24.13 | Semlar | crosshairs on the other hand uses nameplate:GetCenter() because it animates itself toward the nameplate |
| 23:24.22 | Semlar | and that appears to be broken |
| 23:25.00 | nevcairiel | wtf is with the curse client and multiple wow installations. I switch to the ptr install, and my addon list doesnt change a bit |
| 23:25.02 | Simca_ | i don't understand, if you can anchor to it, can't you just pull the position of the anchored frame to get the same effect |
| 23:25.06 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.08 | Simca_ | or does it cascade down? |
| 23:25.21 | nevcairiel | protection has a habit of doing that |
| 23:26.06 | Simca_ | if it is literally just positioning, it probably isn't too big of a deal except for like animations, which you could work around |
| 23:26.25 | Semlar | it's calling it an "anchor restricted frame" though which kind of implies you can't anchor to it |
| 23:26.39 | Semlar | except my nameplates clearly can anchor to something |
| 23:27.02 | Semlar | i'll have to check what that code is doing |
| 23:27.16 | nevcairiel | Kui plates are also fine |
| 23:27.47 | nevcairiel | at least in the city, but apparently its broken for everywhere for others |
| 23:27.52 | Semlar | that's even more interesting because unless he changed it, kui tries to align itself with pixel boundaries instead of anchoring directly to the nameplate |
| 23:29.08 | Simca_ | threatplates doesn't even error, that's the weird part |
| 23:29.27 | Semlar | i'm guessing they're trying to anchor to something weird |
| 23:31.19 | Semlar | alright well my nameplate addon completely works, is there somewhere specific i should go outside of town to test this? |
| 23:31.54 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> maybe in an instance? that's where I'm heading now |
| 23:32.15 | Semlar | i'll have to copy a character that isn't a demon hunter apparently |
| 23:32.25 | nevcairiel | ..why ? :) |
| 23:32.38 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.52 | nevcairiel | haha it counts a copied one as a new one |
| 23:33.10 | Semlar | it's the only level 120 character i have |
| 23:33.35 | nevcairiel | why do you try a legacy instance anyway, just go solo some trash in a normal mode instance |
| 23:33.36 | Semlar | i'll copy my hunter |
| 23:33.43 | Semlar | i went to RFC |
| 23:33.46 | Semlar | where else would i go |
| 23:34.49 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> If it works there.. then it should be good |
| 23:34.57 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> pvp is impossible on ptr |
| 23:35.35 | Semlar | https://i.imgur.com/dT5S6Nt.png |
| 23:36.24 | Semlar | these default settings are killing me |
| 23:36.49 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> customize them up ð |
| 23:36.55 | Semlar | too much work |
| 23:37.06 | nevcairiel | copy the sv =p |
| 23:37.10 | Semlar | well it works in instances |
| 23:37.15 | Semlar | it works in combat |
| 23:37.32 | nevcairiel | reload in an instance so everything is new |
| 23:37.34 | nevcairiel | just to make sure |
| 23:38.45 | Semlar | https://i.imgur.com/MME8FRI.png |
| 23:38.56 | nevcairiel | yeah that looks broken now |
| 23:39.07 | Semlar | first of all how dare you that's how it's supposed to look |
| 23:39.11 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 23:40.14 | Semlar | secondly my hunter still has his legendaries so he's an unstoppable god |
| 23:40.34 | Semlar | why is rfc level 60? |
| 23:40.45 | Semlar | i feel like i missed something |
| 23:41.09 | nevcairiel | vanilla stuff scales up now |
| 23:41.16 | kd3 | on live? most dungeons scale |
| 23:41.32 | nevcairiel | everything scales to the top of its expansion level |
| 23:41.44 | Semlar | why stop there |
| 23:41.47 | nevcairiel | well, with some groupings |
| 23:43.16 | Semlar | <unnamed>:SetEndPoint(): not allowed to depend on <unnamed> |
| 23:43.20 | Semlar | thanks |
| 23:43.33 | Mr_Rabies | i hope we get timewalking mc again permanently when classic launches just for the hell of it |
| 23:43.44 | Mr_Rabies | they already put in some work |
| 23:43.47 | nevcairiel | doubt it would be a permanent thing |
| 23:43.50 | nevcairiel | MC is just too boring |
| 23:43.54 | Mr_Rabies | well i mean like |
| 23:44.04 | Semlar | alright so what were people doing with nameplates that they objected to |
| 23:44.10 | Mr_Rabies | run it anytime other timewalking is up |
| 23:44.18 | nevcairiel | basically your crosshairs stuff, just way more prominently :p |
| 23:44.25 | nevcairiel | drawing lines to where mobs are |
| 23:44.32 | Semlar | rude |
| 23:44.39 | Semlar | but what's to stop people from just highlighting their nameplates? |
| 23:44.45 | nevcairiel | nothing |
| 23:44.56 | nevcairiel | but then people still need to open their eyes! |
| 23:45.17 | Semlar | i have a hard time believing you can draw on a nameplate and not be able to draw a line to it |
| 23:45.34 | Semlar | if that's what they're trying to stop |
| 23:45.51 | nevcairiel | prevent anchors between nameplate and something else, prevent retrieving positions, done? |
| 23:45.55 | Simca_ | they're probably trying to stop something else, something more exploity |
| 23:46.11 | Simca_ | and your crosshairs are just collateral damage |
| 23:46.27 | Semlar | i mean crosshairs should be able to work as long as i'm not animating it |
| 23:46.32 | nevcairiel | I can totally see them not liking those line stuff that is in DBM, apparently |
| 23:46.33 | Semlar | i'll have to check |
| 23:48.11 | Stanzilla | what rivers found out so far https://i.imgur.com/Cmdzv2r.png |
| 23:48.39 | Semlar | no more of this then? https://gfycat.com/glumunawareindianelephant |
| 23:49.17 | nevcairiel | If I had to guess, stuff like that seems to be in their focus, since that got spread a lot in the latest raid |
| 23:49.28 | nevcairiel | or maybe its something more evil we just never saw |
| 23:50.17 | Stanzilla | it's 100% the "line-to-enemy" auras |
| 23:50.25 | Stanzilla | Semlar: yes |
| 23:50.34 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure i could still do this |
| 23:50.44 | Simca_ | please don't |
| 23:50.45 | nevcairiel | do it now so they can fix it |
| 23:51.48 | Semlar | well i should at least play around with it and see |
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| 23:54.13 | Stanzilla | make an addon for classic that uses that and force them to sync APIs :D |
| 23:54.24 | Simca_ | lol |
| 23:54.27 | Simca_ | that's awful |
| 23:54.35 | Simca_ | just awful |
| 23:54.38 | nevcairiel | picking small things like that would be easy |
| 23:54.38 | Simca_ | but you're right |
| 23:55.01 | Simca_ | maybe, this change may not be that minor though |
| 23:55.02 | nevcairiel | or they would just re-fix it, still a lot faster then everything else :D |
| 23:55.15 | Stanzilla | yeah just cherry picking that over would be tons faster :D |
| 23:55.19 | Stanzilla | still a funny thought |
| 23:58.19 | Semlar | does this mean they're going to let us skin friendly nameplates in instances again? |
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| 23:58.28 | Semlar | since that was the only reason to restrict that |
| 23:58.41 | Mr_Rabies | no we're doing less, not more |
| 23:58.51 | Semlar | i'd check, but you can't turn friendly nameplates on with the default hotkeys |
| 23:58.58 | nevcairiel | shift-v doesnt work? |
| 23:59.00 | Semlar | nope |
| 23:59.18 | nevcairiel | works for me, even on ptr which is a fresh char copy |
| 23:59.39 | Semlar | oh it says it does, but it doesn't |
| 23:59.47 | Semlar | at least not for npcs |
| 23:59.56 | nevcairiel | well npcs are magic |
| 23:59.58 | nevcairiel | works on players |
