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| 08:31.40 | VIad | bagnon/combucor are actively developed too, appropo bag addons, just lightweight onebag replacements. |
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| 08:44.35 | AcidWeb | Yeah but we talking about meta-bags not one bag solutions. |
| 08:45.37 | VIad | oh meta-bags, yeah there aren't maybe actively developed. I guess the just the amount of work needed to virtually assign actual slots to virtual bags with different logics isn't that easy :p |
| 08:46.22 | VIad | I enjoy reading the scenescripttext.db2 it's fun how much the server is alleviated by these things, cutscenes and all, no need to bother the server with more load |
| 08:50.07 | Alram | anyone know where loading screen rendering is, if that's a thing? |
| 08:50.19 | Alram | there's some new tech in 8.2 that uses an atlas to build a modular loading screen |
| 08:51.04 | Alram | but not sure where to look for things using this, tried gluexml but nothing yet |
| 08:51.13 | Alram | might just not be in yet but want to make sure |
| 09:17.13 | nevcairiel | so.. modular as in it can possibly change depending on what happens in t he game? |
| 09:21.01 | Alram | i think based on resolution/aspect ratio |
| 09:21.08 | Alram | to prevent black bars |
| 09:21.28 | nevcairiel | aw boring |
| 09:32.16 | Alram | it has some pretty neat art though |
| 09:32.27 | Alram | https://twitter.com/Marlamin/status/1126559063154790400 (not at all what it would look like obviously, was messing around) |
| 09:33.43 | nevcairiel | i suppose having some sort of map stuff there is better then black bars for ultra wides etc |
| 09:33.45 | nevcairiel | but still :D |
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| 11:20.27 | VIad | I guess it's new with 8.2 as I see several screens with black bars that should probably have a wide edition. or maybe we need to do a community thing and run the old stuff through waiffu2x and make 4k versions out of them :P |
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| 11:33.36 | AcidWeb | well if they allow to replace loading screens |
| 11:34.06 | AcidWeb | waifu2x is doing quite good job with old loading screens |
| 11:42.32 | nevcairiel | those special cartoon/anime scalers like waifu2x do really a good job at such stylistic images indeed |
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| 13:05.40 | VIad | you can take all the game artwork and make it 4k scale and it still looks pretty good. wonder how it would do if you took the old item textures like T1 or T2 and did waifu2x on those :P |
| 13:06.07 | VIad | a lot of older game files are low textures and you see them get smeared. dunno if waifu2x would make it clearer tho, even if you did double the texture size :/ |
| 13:11.13 | nevcairiel | textures like that probably have too much high frequency information to look good in such scalers |
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| 14:34.00 | Hekili | Is it possible that the pixel snapping changes of 8.1 is also impacting font outlines? |
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| 16:27.47 | Mr_Rabies | huh, the ptr is making my windows go into basic theme, weird |
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| 19:40.21 | VIad | Stanzilla: I didn't know you worked on the microsoft/terminal github project |
| 19:46.52 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 19:49.33 | Funkeh` | they flew him to HQ just to help the team with his terminal experience |
| 19:49.49 | Funkeh` | terminal whining that is |
| 20:34.09 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: not bad, I chuckled |
| 20:34.22 | Stanzilla | VIad: "work" :D |
| 20:34.29 | Stanzilla | was just a documentation fix |
| 20:35.18 | VIad | I saw it on a windows terminal presentation where they showed a screen of the github and you had the last commit on the pager |
| 20:36.22 | Stanzilla | yeah that was funny, I was sitting on the couch watching that video last night and saw it |
| 20:36.54 | Stanzilla | good timing I guess :D |
| 20:59.48 | foxlit | is it just me, or does the main window of the battle.net launcher just... freeze... while it is in the disconnected state? I can't get it to respond to clicks after waking from sleep until it manages to reconnect a minute later. |
| 21:00.19 | Stanzilla | simliar to when you update your graphics drivers? |
| 21:00.30 | Stanzilla | it does respond to clicks but you can't see the result |
| 21:00.32 | foxlit | minimizing and restoring it forced one single redraw, so it actually responds to stuff but doesn't update its graphics. |
| 21:00.56 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 21:01.07 | Stanzilla | when you click play it also starts the game but you don't get any feedback on the butotn |
| 21:02.41 | Stanzilla | btw foxlit I don't know if you want to contribute or not but AcidWeb posted your well known Blizzard UI bugs and workarounds on https://github.com/Stanzilla/WoWUIBugs/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sort%3Aupdated-desc as a link |
| 21:02.55 | Stanzilla | I want to try making this a thing and would love if you could contribute in the future? |
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| 21:36.40 | Ketho | Stanzilla: I can't reproduce the editbox bug on the current ptr build 30329 |
| 21:36.48 | Ketho | I dunno if they fixed it or just me |
| 21:38.04 | Stanzilla | Hrm interesting, @Buds#0500 can probably re-test |
| 21:38.12 | Stanzilla | let's see if the discord bridge mangled that highlight |
| 21:39.38 | Mr_Rabies | i guess i should post this on the ptr bug report, but it seems like for some reason the ptr client is intentionally turning off windows DWM |
| 21:39.58 | Stanzilla | wth :o |
| 21:40.33 | nevcairiel | should switch to a modern OS where WDM cannot be turned off anylonger :D |
| 21:40.50 | Mr_Rabies | 5/10 14:16:17.132 Choosing adapter 0 // 5/10 14:16:17.596 Disabling DWM: succeeded // 5/10 14:16:17.790 Detected NvAPI and checking if it's valid... |
| 21:41.09 | Mr_Rabies | sorry windows stopped with 7, unfortunately |
| 21:41.17 | Mr_Rabies | gonna have to figure out what to do when i can't use that anymore :( |
| 21:41.30 | nevcairiel | and dwm stopped with 8.2, just have to go with it! |
| 21:43.01 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> it normally doesn't mangle the highlight, Stanzilla |
| 21:43.14 | Mr_Rabies | as much as i hate linux i think i might end up hating it less than windows 10, so i may switch if gabe can get moving on this proton thing |
| 21:45.03 | Stanzilla | @Azilroka yeah it worked |
| 21:45.31 | Stanzilla | Mr_Rabies: probably maybe something with their DirectX 12 on Win7 hack? |
| 21:45.47 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> That pinged me directly ð |
| 21:45.55 | Stanzilla | wonderful |
| 21:46.01 | Mr_Rabies | possibly, but it doesn't do it on live, Stanzilla |
| 21:46.06 | Mr_Rabies | it could just be a testing thing right now |
| 21:46.12 | nevcairiel | maybe it had bugs that this solves :) |
| 21:46.15 | Stanzilla | ^ |
| 21:46.21 | Mr_Rabies | i'll probably still write a report anyway and see |
| 21:46.37 | Mr_Rabies | i spend as much time with wow open and tabbed out as i do actually playing wow nowadays so |
| 21:46.43 | nevcairiel | you could switch to dx11 and see if it stops doing i t |
| 21:46.50 | nevcairiel | you know, at the very least for a more complete bug report |
| 21:46.52 | Mr_Rabies | nope, it didn't, i did try that |
| 21:48.31 | Mr_Rabies | i also just wiped all the exes and dlls from the ptr folder in the hopes that maybe something was triggering it, but it seems intentional |
| 21:48.45 | nevcairiel | if its in the log, very intentional :D |
| 21:49.12 | Mr_Rabies | dx11 legacy doesn't do it, interestingly enough |
| 21:49.18 | Mr_Rabies | but dx11 and dx12 both do |
| 21:50.02 | Mr_Rabies | if i have to i can probably do a deep dive into group policy editor and stop it |
| 21:50.37 | Mr_Rabies | oh you know what regular dx11 didn't that time, it must just do it when you switch |
| 21:59.34 | Ketho | apparently need to scroll down first on the editbox before it starts highlighting weird |
| 22:00.35 | Ketho | s/need/needed |
| 22:05.34 | Mr_Rabies | i'm a few months behind on my drivers too, i should probably update those |
| 22:05.49 | Mr_Rabies | i tend to wait a bit on them since i had some drivers almost certainly kill two graphics cards in the past |
| 22:12.32 | Gnarfoz | thathappened.jpg |
| 22:13.14 | Gnarfoz | also what's a few months on drivers compared to almost a decade on the OS? :P |
| 22:16.30 | Mr_Rabies | what if i told you i was at one point two years behind on windows updates :v |
| 22:16.49 | Mr_Rabies | i only really did them because of the kernel-level shenanigans that went down last year |
| 22:19.16 | Mr_Rabies | well, it was either wow itself or the nvidia drivers because i went through two 780s in less than 6 months in a computer case with tons of airflow and good temperatures |
| 22:19.26 | Mr_Rabies | i even replaced the psu between video cards because i suspected that |
| 22:19.40 | Gnarfoz | I hope you realize that you're part of the crowd that is the very reason for the current release model of Windows that you hate :P |
| 22:20.16 | Gnarfoz | znf has some uptime to sell you |
| 22:20.19 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:20.29 | znf | uhm? |
| 22:22.10 | znf | I only have 58 days uptime |
| 22:24.57 | znf | and I usually want updates, it's just that I didn't get 1809 for the last... few months, for random reasons |
| 22:25.02 | znf | even tough I applied all updates |
| 22:29.10 | Mr_Rabies | that's fine Gnarfoz, but it doesn't mean it's the product that i want |
| 22:29.27 | Mr_Rabies | it's actually more aimed at the types of people we saw at the computer shop i used to run |
| 22:29.42 | Mr_Rabies | who somehow managed to continue running xp service pack 0 all the way until windows 7 was out |
| 22:30.11 | Mr_Rabies | a power using choosing to defer updates shouldn't really be a major concern |
| 22:30.40 | Mr_Rabies | i forgot to do my uptime until i just restared but it was probably in the 60-80 day area lol |
| 22:30.52 | Mr_Rabies | er "a power user" |
| 22:31.14 | znf | Mr_Rabies, the problem appears when YOU set up their system and do the same thing to theirs (disable updates and so on) |
| 22:31.25 | znf | because you're on auto-pilot and you think that's good for them :P |
| 22:31.34 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, no, i turned on auto updates for everyone that took a pc to us |
| 22:31.52 | Mr_Rabies | because if they couldn't fix it themselves, they needed someone to do it and might as well be microsoft |
| 22:31.59 | Mr_Rabies | controlling that part |
| 22:32.48 | Mr_Rabies | i think auto updates being difficult to turn off is a good thing, but it should maybe be a bit less hacky |
| 22:33.07 | Mr_Rabies | at least have a power user menu to control stuff like that |
| 22:34.29 | Mr_Rabies | man that "black screen with a blinking cursor" that happens when you're installing a new graphics driver will never stop being spooky |
| 22:35.05 | Mr_Rabies | just like booting up and seeing a bunch of cmd windows pop up for a second |
| 22:43.33 | znf | I still think you shouldn't :) |
| 22:43.47 | znf | (disable upgrades) |
| 23:13.05 | Chipzz | sighs at battle.net error reporting |
| 23:13.38 | Chipzz | streaming broken; error message: "Check connectivity"; perusing the logs: problem with encoder |
| 23:13.42 | Chipzz | *rolleyes* |