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| 00:14.29 | Mr_Rabies | suddenly it wants to download a 7GB patch |
| 00:14.30 | Mr_Rabies | okay |
| 00:19.08 | Mr_Rabies | and now it's "playable" but acting like it's missing stuff |
| 00:19.08 | Mr_Rabies | wat |
| 00:19.41 | Mr_Rabies | is this some kind of thing where the ptr is overriding files the live game needs or something |
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| 08:13.08 | nebula | AcidWeb: not sure why you're sitting on them, just keep committing |
| 08:13.12 | nebula | but fix your tabs first |
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| 08:20.11 | AcidWeb | I'm not going to make major time investments in project that I don't control any way. |
| 08:20.22 | AcidWeb | As it need major overhaul on many levels. |
| 08:20.45 | AcidWeb | Also I will not mess with SVN in 2019. |
| 08:21.01 | AcidWeb | That is masochism. |
| 08:21.26 | nebula | lol, true |
| 08:21.56 | Mr_Rabies | yeah don't blame you for subjecting yourself to supporting something that the original author could just immediately throw away at any moment |
| 08:22.05 | Mr_Rabies | for not wanting to* |
| 08:22.32 | mitch0 | what addon are you talking about?\ |
| 08:22.43 | AcidWeb | Baggins. |
| 08:22.47 | mitch0 | ah |
| 08:22.52 | nebula | i mean, they've been gone forever |
| 08:23.10 | AcidWeb | Yeah but ARR is ARR> |
| 08:23.14 | nebula | i've done some maintenance updates, AcidWeb did 8.0 fixes |
| 08:23.33 | nebula | well yea, just means you don't own it :p |
| 08:23.39 | nebula | still an open repo |
| 08:23.53 | Mr_Rabies | if blizzard was going to mandate addons be open source it probably wouldn't have hurt to also mandate some kind of less restrictive license than ARR in the first place |
| 08:24.08 | AcidWeb | More like bandages than fixes. |
| 08:24.25 | Mr_Rabies | open source and no obfuscation, at that |
| 08:24.38 | nebula | eh, why would they do that |
| 08:24.46 | nebula | they just don't want people to sell them |
| 08:25.17 | Mr_Rabies | so that development could at least continue past the interest or life of the original creator |
| 08:25.20 | AcidWeb | I also was thinking about forking AdiBags but it is in way worse state than Baggins. |
| 08:26.06 | AcidWeb | And for sure I don't want to write meta-bag addon from scratch. |
| 08:26.07 | nebula | too bad baggins is only addon i've seen that does virtual bags, that's what's kept me using it all these years |
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| 08:27.18 | Mr_Rabies | development still does continue on some stuff, but the author could technically take anyone that releases updates or forks to court |
| 08:27.26 | Mr_Rabies | not super likely seeing that wowmatrix is still a thing |
| 08:27.29 | nebula | oh please |
| 08:29.01 | AcidWeb | Baggins need new new item detection mechanism, bridges to popular inventory related addons, flat theme and probably some refactoring of init functions. |
| 08:29.42 | AcidWeb | And few new features that are now a standard - like ilvl display. |
| 08:30.18 | nebula | and displaying special item art, like for artifact gear :p |
| 08:30.37 | Mr_Rabies | i use https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/itemleveldisplay for my paperdoll frame |
| 08:30.53 | Mr_Rabies | and adibags has ilvl built in, but they use different color scales which can be annoying but i live with it |
| 08:31.07 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not about to manually edit either to the same standard everytime the addon updates |
| 08:32.25 | AcidWeb | adibags have tons of small bugs, glitches and anomalies |
| 08:33.26 | AcidWeb | but that is cumulative effect of years of neglect |
| 08:33.51 | AcidWeb | core of baggins survived the test of time way better |
| 08:35.21 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 08:35.29 | AcidWeb | Also you can't skin adibags without internal edit. |
| 08:35.50 | Mr_Rabies | adibags is weirdly more "future proof" in certain ways and not at all in other ways |
| 08:36.03 | Mr_Rabies | like being really easy to add modules to |
| 08:36.24 | Mr_Rabies | like i have one that filters all my trade goods by expansion |
| 08:36.56 | AcidWeb | Well if we talking about meta-bags we cant forget the arkinventory. Still actively maintained after 500 years. |
| 08:37.01 | AcidWeb | But i dont like it. |
| 08:37.07 | AcidWeb | It feels... bulky. |
| 08:37.11 | Mr_Rabies | also i have no clue when they added it but i think it's baseline - searches for "Soulbound" and "Binds when equipped" actually work as you'd expect |
| 08:37.26 | Mr_Rabies | not sure if that's something adibags added, but i think it just uses the default search logic |
| 08:39.41 | AcidWeb | There are also 2 or 3 smaller meta-bag addons but they are not worth mentioning due to low customizability. |
| 08:39.48 | AcidWeb | Or fact they are dead ;p |
| 08:40.46 | Mr_Rabies | i'm definitely the type of person that starts looking for alternatives as soon as an addon starts getting long in the teeth since blizzard doesn't just break addons with major patches and expansions anymore |
| 08:41.31 | Mr_Rabies | i hate having to scramble for an alternative when my chosen addon dies, so i try out alternatives for the big ones pretty often from time to time |
| 08:41.44 | AcidWeb | Me too but in this case there is no alternatives. |
| 08:41.52 | AcidWeb | Almost everybody use all-in-one bags. |
| 08:42.34 | Mr_Rabies | i've tried that and i think i'd rather use the stock bags with the filtering on sort than an all in one bag now |
| 08:43.12 | Mr_Rabies | i wouldn't be happy about it |
| 08:43.22 | AcidWeb | Yeah that is only elvui module I don't use. |
| 08:43.27 | Mr_Rabies | inventorian was about the only AiO one i like, and i swap to it when adibags is dead sometimes |
| 08:43.30 | Mr_Rabies | since it's just so simple |
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| 13:42.01 | Stanzilla | TSquare: Reminder that Editbox is still broken on PTR, video https://www.twitch.tv/videos/421950299 minimal test case that repros the bug https://github.com/WeakAuras/WeakAuras2/files/3098189/EditBoxBugTest.zip |
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| 15:14.52 | Tentacled | So... purl logging is officially dead, or what? |
| 15:16.43 | Semlar | there's a discord bridge, so messages are being recorded in a couple discord servers |
| 15:20.03 | Tentacled | Whoa. Bridge. Nostalgia blast. That takes me back some 20 years when I constructed bridges between some split networks. They carried privmsgs and all. Those were the days :D |
| 15:21.01 | Tentacled | IrcII scripting on a VT100 terminal in one of the only Internet cafes in the city back then... Geez. :> |
| 15:22.04 | Tentacled | So anyway... PTR started crashing on GetItemInfo for some stripped down item links. "|cffa335ee|Hitem:165493::::::::120:251::3:4:5124:4802:1477:4784:::|h[Deathguard's Greaves]|h|r |
| 15:22.04 | Tentacled | " works, "item:165493::::::::120:251::3:4:5124:4802:1477:4784:::" crashes. Any idea as to why, except, well, PTR? |
| 15:22.08 | Tentacled | gah. |
| 15:22.53 | Tentacled | |cffa335ee|Hitem:165493::::::::120:251::3:4:5124:4802:1477:4784:::|h[Deathguard's Greaves]|h|r - works |
| 15:23.04 | Tentacled | item:165493::::::::120:251::3:4:5124:4802:1477:4784::: - crashes |
| 15:23.12 | Tentacled | |cffa335ee|Hitem:166561::::::::120:251::6:5:5126:1502:4786:5402:4775:::|h[Deathguard's Casque]|h|r - works |
| 15:23.21 | Tentacled | item:166561::::::::120:251::6:5:5126:1502:4786:5402:4775::: - also works. |
| 15:46.39 | Stanzilla | Tentacled: https://github.com/Stanzilla/WoWUIBugs/issues/2 |
| 15:47.47 | Stanzilla | anyone else feel free to open issues on that repo to better collect feedback for TSquare |
| 15:48.05 | Stanzilla | irc and pastebin links are not very good at that |
| 15:48.57 | Tentacled | Would the months-old issue of all icons (including player location) being all wrong on Krasarang fit in there, or is that archaeology already, will-not-fix? :P |
| 15:49.30 | Stanzilla | not for me to decide what they fix :D |
| 15:49.51 | Tentacled | It may have been discussed here already, but without purl logging I can't check. :P |
| 15:50.01 | Stanzilla | put it up there then |
| 15:50.09 | Tentacled | Yup, just about to. |
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| 18:47.52 | Tentacled | TSquare, can you do anything at all with crash reports, like "instruction at 0x00007ff723aaa633 referenced memory at 0x00000000000001c8"? |
| 18:50.23 | TSquare | We do get crash reports, but repro steps are MUCH better |
| 18:51.18 | TSquare | if you could add that to the report, it helps a ton |
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| 19:03.56 | Fisker | did anybody ever try to backtrack in battle for dazarlor? |
| 19:12.44 | Stanzilla | we only write addons, we're not actually playing the game |
| 19:16.56 | AcidWeb | yeah not much to play left |
| 19:17.25 | znf | I played BoD for ~3 weeks, got all the shitty gear I needed, rest is ShitForge |
| 19:20.32 | znf | oh right, let's log on to check Cache of Disappointment |
| 19:20.56 | znf | who doesn't need another belt? |
| 19:23.21 | znf | ah, no, I got versatility wrists |
| 19:23.46 | znf | this game needs an option to discard all gear with X stats on it automatically, and get some azerite instead |
| 19:29.26 | foxlit | aren't you capped on azerite yet? |
| 19:30.50 | Fisker | being capped on azerite sucks |
| 19:31.36 | znf | foxlit, no, I stopped doing WQs when BoD got released |
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