| 00:02.46 | Funkeh` | good enough to fly to the venue, not good enough to get inside |
| 00:19.58 | Cairenn | Well that's just fucking lovely. What about those of us that don't have a data plan on our phones? Thus, we don't have it |
| 00:23.01 | Mr_Rabies | they want to make sure everyone has phones this year |
| 00:23.40 | Cairenn | So I'm going to have to pay for a fucking international data plan on top of everything else? Fuck this shit |
| 00:23.43 | Mr_Rabies | here's how dragoncon does it, for comparison, since it's also a large convention |
| 00:24.12 | Mr_Rabies | you wait in line, show your ID and bring your card they mailed you ahead of time if you want, to speed things up |
| 00:24.44 | Mr_Rabies | then go to a seperate line where they're printing the labels that they attach to the badges |
| 00:24.51 | Mr_Rabies | show your ID again |
| 00:24.54 | Mr_Rabies | pick it up, and leave |
| 00:25.03 | Mr_Rabies | takes me usually about 15 minutes usually |
| 00:26.29 | Mr_Rabies | most likely they'll be able to help you out at a seperate booth, Cairenn, but yeah |
| 00:26.38 | Mr_Rabies | it's a really stupid thing |
| 00:29.27 | Mr_Rabies | i actually scanned the QR code on my mailed-in card and saved it on my phone just in case, for dragoncon that is |
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| 00:30.06 | Mr_Rabies | it's some kind of encrypted string and it seems to change year-to-year lol |
| 00:30.42 | ls- | there's also this concern: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/bkd5ew/you_need_to_have_a_phone_to_attend_blizzcon_this/emg38xv/ |
| 00:30.56 | ls- | but there's a bp for people w/o phones: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/bkd5ew/you_need_to_have_a_phone_to_attend_blizzcon_this/emfswea/ |
| 00:31.07 | ls- | "If for some reason you find yourself at the show with a dead mobile device or some other unexpected issue preventing you from accessing the app, donât worry. Just head to the Solutions Desk at registration and theyâll help you out." |
| 00:31.19 | Funkeh` | <Mr_Rabies> they want to make sure everyone has phones this year |
| 00:31.23 | Funkeh` | omfg dude |
| 00:31.30 | Funkeh` | that's the internet win for 2019 |
| 00:31.40 | ls- | so it's possible to do it w/o a phone or an app |
| 00:31.47 | Mr_Rabies | i know i'm going to collect my trophy right now |
| 00:32.57 | Mr_Rabies | that combined with my reddit karma should be enough to finally get that pencil topper |
| 00:33.12 | ls- | - do you guys not have phones? |
| 00:33.12 | ls- | - nope, we used solutions desk |
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| 09:32.14 | foxlit | Cairenn: eh, there's WiFi all over that place. |
| 09:36.03 | foxlit | also, if you trust the app's faq, it seems like you could download the ticket before you get to the venue ( https://support.axs.com/hc/en-us/articles/207349917 ) |
| 09:37.06 | Fisker | Likely the QR code they're generating just have a totp-component |
| 09:37.13 | foxlit | ^ |
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| 09:40.09 | Fisker | I really wanted to go for the statue though |
| 09:40.26 | Fisker | to offset my getting screwed by their 10 year anniversary thing |
| 09:46.33 | foxlit | eh, plasticky humanoids |
| 09:49.20 | foxlit | you could maybe find the 10th anniversary thing on ebay (or aliexpress) |
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| 13:39.47 | AcidWeb | "Activision Blizzard has 'very large ambitions for the Overwatch universe'" |
| 13:39.53 | AcidWeb | I hope that community have phones. |
| 14:02.15 | Fisker | It will have to |
| 14:08.03 | p3lim | TSquare: GetTexture returns nil on live if SetColorTexture was used to set the "texture" on a Texture widget, previously it returned something else. We currently have no way to tell if SetColorTexture has been used on a Texture widget, or what the color might have been |
| 14:09.06 | Funkeh` | GetColorTexture? |
| 14:14.20 | p3lim | Funkeh`: no such thing |
| 14:14.33 | Funkeh` | :( |
| 14:15.13 | p3lim | and GetVertexColor returns 1,1,1 unless SetVertexColor has been used to set the color (I thought initially it'd return the colors set by SetColorTexture, but it doesn't) |
| 14:41.52 | p3lim | apparently "solved" on the PTR, but we still have no way to get the color set, GetColorTexture would be nice |
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| 14:44.30 | ls- | well, GetVertexColor works correctly, on PTR though, GetTexture returns "FileData ID 0" if it's used after SetColorTexture, not nil, as it does on live currently, not "Color-XXXXX" as it used to do, but a weird string... |
| 14:45.19 | ls- | like, normally, it returns either file paths or file ids as numbers, but then there's this "FileData ID 0" O_o |
| 14:45.49 | ls- | I'd expect just a 0 |
| 14:47.21 | ls- | but "color-xxxxxx" thingy would be the best, or whatever that was... >_> |
| 14:50.00 | nevcairiel | undocumented special behavior shall not be relied upon to remain the same |
| 14:50.25 | nevcairiel | also, just remember what you set a texture to, jeez =p |
| 14:56.31 | ls- | well, we need to know if users set a texture or nah, in our case if GetTexture returns nil we set our own texture, if it's set via SetColorTexture, it's something, but def not nil :P |
| 14:57.17 | ls- | but rn on live it's nil >_> |
| 14:58.00 | nevcairiel | apparently that changes already anyway |
| 14:58.03 | nevcairiel | so its all fine? |
| 15:09.03 | Funkeh` | "undocumented" as if widgets are documented :P |
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| 16:31.42 | Arrowmaster | ok WHAT THE FUCK, this AXS shop is trying to reach out to wired.meraki.com on me |
| 16:34.18 | Arrowmaster | or is that my meraki firewall blocking something since I have ublock off |
| 16:34.22 | Arrowmaster | never seen it before |
| 16:36.10 | foxlit | is it tickets day? |
| 16:40.40 | Cairenn | yes |
| 16:45.27 | Arrowmaster | Ok I have 16 taps open and tiled on my server that I'm remoted into. The app open on my phone. And one tab open on my regular computer |
| 16:45.44 | Arrowmaster | I think I'm ready |
| 16:46.32 | Arrowmaster | No if I get through what should I pick for the statues on my other 3 tickets I'll buy |
| 16:46.53 | foxlit | I feel like this "I have 9001 tabs open!" thing ought to have been addressed in the design of random queueing somehow. |
| 16:47.28 | Arrowmaster | Aparently its part of how AXS works |
| 16:47.53 | Arrowmaster | Don't know if it actually helps but I'll try it |
| 16:49.39 | Arrowmaster | I'm thinking 2 grunts and 2 soldiers |
| 16:50.19 | Fisker | more like 4 grunts, 0 soldiers |
| 16:51.28 | Elmoe | ^ |
| 16:51.45 | Cairenn | dolby and I want soldiers :p |
| 16:52.27 | dolby | I'm picking the Cairenn statuette |
| 16:52.32 | Fisker | ... |
| 16:52.33 | Arrowmaster | I want a grunt but I know there are alliance scum amoung my friends |
| 16:53.16 | Cairenn | :p |
| 16:53.38 | Fisker | alliance are the worst |
| 16:54.05 | dolby | no |
| 16:54.09 | Fisker | yeah |
| 16:54.11 | dolby | no |
| 16:54.18 | dolby | :D |
| 16:54.20 | Fisker | Fight me |
| 16:54.55 | Fisker | that intro sequence for bfa was cool and all, they just forgot we outnumber them 10:1 and would've won any day without breaking a sweat |
| 16:56.28 | dolby | getting close 4.5min! |
| 16:56.29 | Arrowmaster | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294625032188198922/574278153418178606/unknown.png |
| 16:56.35 | Arrowmaster | so many tabs |
| 16:56.41 | Arrowmaster | across two systems |
| 16:56.51 | dolby | hah nice! |
| 16:56.58 | Fisker | cheater |
| 17:00.08 | Fisker | anyone want to count down? |
| 17:00.23 | Fisker | this 2 digit number will soon be a 5 digit one |
| 17:00.41 | AcidWeb | 3 digit |
| 17:00.42 | AcidWeb | 504 |
| 17:01.07 | Fisker | I have no number |
| 17:01.18 | Fisker | so I guess that's pretty rip |
| 17:01.46 | Fisker | I got it yay |
| 17:01.54 | Fisker | but I don't want to buy anything |
| 17:01.57 | Arrowmaster | my tabs are in different places in line, i think it might work |
| 17:02.03 | Fisker | I'm already in |
| 17:02.38 | Arrowmaster | app on my phone is closest |
| 17:03.52 | Fisker | btw you lock in your tickets the moment you choose them |
| 17:04.09 | Arrowmaster | in on phone app..... |
| 17:04.11 | Arrowmaster | the fuck |
| 17:06.56 | Fisker | Convenience Fee - Web |
| 17:06.56 | Fisker | 4$12.02$48.08 |
| 17:07.00 | Fisker | xd |
| 17:07.12 | Fisker | You are nuts |
| 17:07.25 | znf | there's a convenience fee? |
| 17:07.29 | Fisker | yes |
| 17:07.33 | Cairenn | yup |
| 17:07.35 | Fisker | $12,02 per ticket |
| 17:07.37 | Fisker | I'm dyin |
| 17:07.52 | Fisker | that's what, 0,5% of the ticket price? |
| 17:08.09 | dolby | HOW TO USE YOUR TICKETS |
| 17:08.09 | dolby | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.09 | dolby | 1. Get the AXS mobile app and open the app to see your tickets. |
| 17:08.09 | dolby | 2. You can transfer or sell your tickets after Wave 2. |
| 17:08.09 | dolby | 3. Show the ticket in your app at the entrance to get your BlizzCon badge. |
| 17:08.27 | Arrowmaster | now it says sold out |
| 17:08.50 | Arrowmaster | I got in on my phone first and it let me select the number of tickets then said sold out |
| 17:08.54 | Fisker | ah |
| 17:08.59 | Fisker | Then I probably am screwed too |
| 17:09.20 | Arrowmaster | i never got to payment screen you might be good but hury |
| 17:10.40 | Fisker | Do you want mine if I get them Arrowmaster? |
| 17:10.54 | Fisker | or are you also just covering for friends |
| 17:10.56 | Arrowmaster | I can try again next week |
| 17:11.20 | Fisker | I'm gonna be a mad man |
| 17:11.24 | Fisker | I got 4 tickets |
| 17:11.27 | Fisker | no intention of going |
| 17:11.29 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 17:11.31 | Fisker | You will all suffer |
| 17:11.46 | Arrowmaster | if i dont get any next week then yeah i'll probably buy a ticket |
| 17:11.49 | Fisker | still worked btw |
| 17:11.57 | Fisker | even though I had that screen open for 10 minutes |
| 17:12.26 | Fisker | how many do you need Arrowmaster all 4? |
| 17:12.29 | Arrowmaster | OH SHIT IM IN |
| 17:14.32 | Arrowmaster | I changed my order to 1 ticket and got throuugh finally |
| 17:14.45 | Fisker | Do you need more than one ticket? :P |
| 17:14.51 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 17:14.59 | Fisker | ð¸ |
| 17:15.24 | Arrowmaster | and I did it on the mobble app |
| 17:15.37 | Arrowmaster | seems biased to me |
| 17:17.23 | Fisker | rng |
| 17:24.07 | Arrowmaster | for wave2 make sure you also use the phone app. I got through on it and selected 4 tickets but then it said sold out but let me kept retrying without a bot check, refreshing the web page redoes the bot check |
| 17:24.44 | Arrowmaster | I was able to change my ticket count from 4 to 1 on the app without backing out and kept retrying it and eventually got in for 1 ticket |
| 17:25.16 | Arrowmaster | I'll see if I can try for more on wave2 |
| 17:25.37 | Fisker | I think it's just people who got too many spots in their queue |
| 17:25.39 | Fisker | and gave them up |
| 17:25.48 | Fisker | You have like 15-20 minutes in total to confirm your order |
| 17:26.48 | Arrowmaster | Yes that always happens with every ticket provider which is why you keep trying |
| 17:27.12 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 17:27.23 | Fisker | Just saying the problem is probably further exacerbated this year by having the rng fest on top |
| 17:27.28 | Arrowmaster | 5 years ago I bought tickets about 30-45 minutes after it was 'sold out' just by refreshing on my phone when it was with universe and I was sitting at a highway rest stop |
| 17:27.50 | Fisker | So besides being dumb and buying tickets |
| 17:27.56 | Fisker | I was also dumb and used my battle.net account |
| 17:28.03 | Fisker | you can't login using your battle.net account on the app |
| 17:28.13 | Arrowmaster | you can transfer them after wave2 |
| 17:28.18 | Fisker | So I guess i'll take my computer with me? :D |
| 17:28.35 | Fisker | I JUST SPENT $12 FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF PAYING MONEY |
| 17:31.40 | foxlit | claim it wasn't convinient and sue them for false advertising. |
| 17:33.19 | Fisker | I should |
| 17:33.29 | Fisker | how long do we have to sell our tickets? |
| 17:36.55 | Arrowmaster | I didn't see an annoucement on that |
| 17:37.56 | Arrowmaster | Someone is saying you can transfer after wave2 and have to do it before Augest 25th |
| 17:39.44 | Cairenn | Yeah, it seemed to me I read somewhere about Aug being the deadline, which is a lot of time |
| 17:40.02 | Cairenn | I was trying to find it just now, but don't remember where I read it |
| 17:42.38 | Cairenn | found it: https://blizzcon.com/en-us/event-info/tickets/convention |
| 17:42.52 | Cairenn | TRANSFER TICKETS TO YOUR GUESTS BY AUGUST 25 â OPTIONALAfter you purchase BlizzCon tickets from AXS, theyâll remain in your name until you decide whether you want to permanently transfer one or more to guests you bought them for.You will have until August 25 at 11:59pm PDT to decide whether to transfer them. Learn more about transferring on the Badge Information page. |
| 17:44.10 | Arrowmaster | So I'm guessing on the account holder will be able to pick them up this year so each guest will need to make an account and get tickets transfered to them if they are traveling seperately and want to pick them up themselves? |
| 17:50.02 | foxlit | badges are weird. |
| 17:50.33 | Cairenn | life is weird - your point? |
| 17:50.51 | foxlit | if you have a clever app with a time-changing code, why wouldn't you use that as your checkpoint auth? |
| 17:51.14 | Fisker | Why not both |
| 17:51.40 | foxlit | turns the "badge pickup" line into "loot pickup", which can be spread over the entire event. |
| 17:51.51 | Fisker | Also if you somehow go past a checkpoint staff would have no visual indicator of that |
| 17:52.46 | nevcairiel | pure digital would end up in a mess, so many tech issues arise over such an event, dead batteries and whatnot, requiring this to work once is far less troublesome then requiring it all the time |
| 17:54.19 | nevcairiel | also some people like collecting such badges |
| 17:54.29 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 18:03.12 | MentalPower | concerts do it all the time |
| 18:03.19 | MentalPower | dunno about other cons though |
| 18:03.35 | MentalPower | related, I broke down and bought tickets |
| 18:03.41 | nevcairiel | concers are short, so battery likely to survive :D |
| 18:03.43 | MentalPower | or rather Esamynn bought them for me |
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| 18:04.45 | MentalPower | anyone here splurge for the $550 ones? |
| 18:06.23 | Gethe | I probably won't be going, need the money for rent |
| 18:08.23 | Fisker | I don't even know why I got the $229 ones |
| 18:10.15 | MentalPower | to sell them on eBay for $800+ a pop of course :P |
| 18:12.43 | Fisker | I would never |
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| 18:16.48 | Cairenn | cheers MP and Es! |
| 18:17.16 | Gethe | hugs Cairenn |
| 18:17.33 | Cairenn | hugs Gethe |
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| 19:58.11 | AcidWeb | https://theoutline.com/post/5628/how-a-concert-ticket-steals-your-personal-data?zd=5&zi=7fec33af |
| 19:58.15 | AcidWeb | ð |
| 20:08.22 | ThiefMaster | why would someone install $randomticketingapp in the first place? |
| 20:08.32 | ThiefMaster | a generic passbook app should be more than enough for online tickets.. |
| 20:09.42 | Maldivia | why do people install all the crappy apps on the app store? |
| 20:09.49 | ThiefMaster | ok, just read this article, this sounds even more awful now... either the dynamic barcodes are generated locally in the app - then they are pretty insecure - or they are generated online, but that means your ticket won't work if the network is overloaded |
| 20:09.55 | ThiefMaster | which /never/ happens at big events! |
| 20:49.29 | znf | Hey, US people - question - I see there's 2 HBO's, one "west" and one "east", is GoT on both simultaneously ? |
| 20:59.20 | foxlit | ThiefMaster: signs point to them being generated locally. "pretty insecure" is relative; the competing model is a static barcode that you print out. |
| 21:08.37 | Gnarfoz | as to why: it's required |
| 21:09.15 | Gnarfoz | (I guess sandboxing mobile apps will become a thing soon enough) |
| 21:14.09 | Mr_Rabies | watching vinesauce awful android game showcases where he's running everything in an emulator, i think time for that was a few years ago lol |
| 21:40.41 | foxlit | AcidWeb: that's... a very weird definition of "personal data" that article has. |
| 21:42.02 | foxlit | stuff like credit card numbers and billing addresses seems like "If you buy something with a credit card, they'll know your credit card details! Panic now!" |
| 21:54.27 | Gnarfoz | theoutline.com tracks how many times that particular link has been passed around, btw |
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| 23:54.52 | Mr_Rabies | huh, it makes sense but if you look at disney world on google maps satellite view, it really reminds me of looking at aerial photos of wow |
| 23:55.19 | Mr_Rabies | especially pre-cataclysm wow |
| 23:55.59 | Mr_Rabies | where there's areas that aren't really normally accessible or unfinished so you see a cleared away plot with nothing there |
| 23:59.02 | nevcairiel | thats how fake towns look =p |
| 23:59.33 | Mr_Rabies | that's what i mean by "it makes sense" but i think disney world is really the only thing comparable since it's so huge |
