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| 22:00.20 | znf | twitch data breach? |
| 22:00.42 | znf | my friend just got a |
| 22:00.43 | znf | "your password for passport.twitch.tv is no longer safe due to a data breach." |
| 22:06.11 | Mr_Rabies | hopefully they're finally covering for the xsplit leak or something? |
| 22:07.19 | Alram | can you post a full mail znf? |
| 22:07.52 | znf | sec, trying to get him to do it |
| 22:09.13 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/tHTRrHM.png |
| 22:09.34 | znf | but the "your password for passport.twitch.tv is no longer safe due to a data breach." thing was from lastpass, it warned him that it was no longer secure |
| 22:09.47 | Mr_Rabies | uhh that just seems like he used a poor password |
| 22:09.56 | Mr_Rabies | oh, hmm |
| 22:10.22 | Alram | ah right |
| 22:10.31 | Alram | there was a breach last night I think |
| 22:10.39 | Alram | not twitch though but likely with his password |
| 22:10.51 | Mr_Rabies | do what now |
| 22:11.01 | Mr_Rabies | whose breach |
| 22:11.12 | znf | what breach, yeah? |
| 22:11.49 | tz | I wish they'd add TOTP instead of fucking SMS |
| 22:11.53 | tz | for 2FA |
| 22:12.12 | Alram | https://twitter.com/haveibeenpwned/status/1110090155656765440?s=19 |
| 22:12.41 | Alram | I think haveibeenpwned hosts that db that LastPass uses |
| 22:12.51 | Mr_Rabies | ahhh okay |
| 22:13.19 | Mr_Rabies | at this point expect one breach to show up dozens of times as these lists keep just compling more and more lists |
| 22:13.36 | Alram | so it would tell you your password is insecure if it's leaked anywhere else before |
| 22:13.52 | Alram | though a lot of twitch accounts have been getting hacked the last few days |
| 22:14.06 | tz | I added my twitch-specific email to HIBP and it didn't say it was part of a breach, *shrug* |
| 22:14.10 | tz | guess they don't have a copy yet |
| 22:14.12 | Alram | so whonose |
| 22:14.20 | Alram | if LastPass does they do too |
| 22:14.30 | Alram | might not be searchable yet |
| 22:14.39 | Mr_Rabies | could be he just uses the same password on multiple sites and the one he uses for twitch was part of a recent breach |
| 22:14.46 | tz | yup |
| 22:15.01 | Alram | yeah until no announcement I'd just assume it was that |
| 22:16.49 | Alram | https://twitter.com/troyhunt/status/1110097822139858945 heh |
| 22:17.19 | Mr_Rabies | one of my old pws is straight up just out there available for anyone for free in a paste |
| 22:17.44 | Mr_Rabies | along with 247k other jokers in the same paste |
| 22:18.07 | tz | I'd be surprised if the majority of people in here weren't in the same boat |
| 22:19.05 | Mr_Rabies | it's called redbox.txt but afaik redbox was not breached |
| 22:19.18 | Alram | Yeah same |
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| 22:22.59 | Alram | [x] mild worry https://twitter.com/RyanHodge/status/1110167335585923073 |
| 22:35.56 | znf | it's kind of shitty when crappy websites randomly get hacked and their password db stolen |
| 22:36.28 | znf | because you sign up on a shitty website 10 years ago, and you use a crappy password, because you don't want to remember a complex password just to see random titties |
| 22:36.35 | znf | (ie: 500px) |
| 22:36.48 | znf | then... you also sign up to this silly website where you can see people playing games |
| 22:37.11 | znf | neither websites have any kind of payment options or something, so you just use your "default" password on both of them |
| 22:37.34 | Gnarfoz | maybe you shouldn't have default passwords |
| 22:37.58 | znf | meanwhile, one of them gets big, but you never really change the password, because now password managers are everywhere, 10 years ago not so much, and it gets autocompleted every time you get there, so you basically forget what password is there |
| 22:38.25 | znf | crappy-website-for-titties gets hacked, it also exposes your twitch password, which now has payment options and you can actually do currency-related stuff on it |
| 22:42.41 | znf | Gnarfoz, but how do you remember all the passwords for every god damn website who decides to implements their own auth scheme? |
| 22:42.54 | znf | it's just a faulty situation we have put ourselves in |
| 22:43.02 | nevcairiel | you use a password manager, obviously |
| 22:43.15 | znf | which one? afaik they've all been breached once |
| 22:43.21 | nevcairiel | i use a local db only |
| 22:43.26 | nevcairiel | no cloud solutions |
| 22:43.43 | znf | but that's kind of shitty when you use more than 1 device |
| 22:43.59 | nevcairiel | use a personal cloud to sync the highly encrypted file |
| 22:44.04 | znf | you'd either have to manually copy it, or sync it via 3rd party solutions |
| 22:44.25 | znf | or, yeah, I guess now that owncloud/nextcloud are "mature enough", you could do that too |
| 22:44.32 | znf | I'm actually wondering how you could possibly do that on iOS |
| 22:44.55 | nevcairiel | i just have my password file on my google drive, if someone manages to get in there, they can burn a quantum computer or so to decrypt the file if they really want to |
| 22:45.04 | nevcairiel | and I'm happy to say I don't do iOS =P |
| 22:45.07 | Azxiana | I do exactly that with Owncloud. |
| 22:45.18 | znf | me neither, I'm just wondering - you download the DB in own/next cloud |
| 22:45.23 | znf | on your iOS device |
| 22:45.31 | Azxiana | However, 1Password on desktop lets you choose ANY location. On Android it goes, "Fuck you, this has to be in Dropbox.". |
| 22:45.34 | znf | but... each app there is highly sandboxed |
| 22:46.11 | znf | So how would you solve this on iOS, downloading and importing your DB? |
| 22:46.14 | znf | Genuinely curious |
| 22:46.26 | foxlit | it just works |
| 22:46.31 | foxlit | you should consider more real problems |
| 22:46.46 | znf | How? |
| 22:46.51 | foxlit | like, say, magical unicorns secretly working for the USSR. |
| 22:46.59 | znf | you have your db in owncloud |
| 22:47.05 | znf | you want to import it in last/keep/whateverPass |
| 22:47.14 | znf | do these apps support own/nextCloud? |
| 22:47.20 | znf | Or just dropbox/google drive & co ? |
| 22:47.32 | nevcairiel | the file just sits there on your device, and they can open it, its not magic |
| 22:47.46 | znf | nevcairiel, that's my point, you can't do that in iOS |
| 22:47.52 | nevcairiel | of course you can |
| 22:47.53 | znf | unless I'm missing something |
| 22:47.53 | nevcairiel | dont be daft |
| 22:48.03 | znf | How? |
| 22:48.32 | znf | I haven't used iOS in years, but last time I checked, you can't write files to the fs and have it accesible in other apps? |
| 22:49.43 | foxlit | system-mediated "send this file/data to another app" workflow is a solved thing. Typically, you open a share sheet and select the app you want. |
| 22:49.45 | nevcairiel | how do you think any sort of music player or document viewer works if you couldnt download arbitrary files |
| 22:50.02 | znf | intents, what foxlit said |
| 22:51.01 | znf | music/video/images are probably special cases on iOS |
| 22:51.11 | nevcairiel | they used to be, its generic since iOS8 |
| 22:51.22 | znf | I see |
| 22:51.22 | nevcairiel | any apps can use it now for a ny file type |
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| 23:42.48 | foxlit | znf: music/video/images are probably special cases on iOS << music/video is actually an annoyingly special case, but in the opposite direction: it's not possible to write to the system music/video databases on the device, so if you were to download your music from... Amazon..., you'd need a computer to sync with. |
| 23:43.14 | nevcairiel | thats because they want to push itunes above everything |
| 23:43.35 | nebula | yea, the lack of third party music integration is really annoying |
| 23:44.01 | nevcairiel | they've always wanted music to be locked down entirely |
| 23:46.03 | foxlit | meh, smells more like indifference. drm-free store, after all. |
