| 00:03.00 | Stanzilla_ | notepad++ lol |
| 00:04.47 | znf | I don't need 5 Gigabytes of an IDE to edit .xml files or .svg or .ini or whatever... |
| 00:08.04 | znf | nebula, any ideas where I can tell it that a .svg file should be using the XML "language"? (for syntax highlight) |
| 00:08.28 | znf | found it |
| 00:08.58 | Funkeh` | been meaning to swap off from n++ |
| 00:09.29 | Funkeh` | all the latest updates either break important stuff or interject pointless politics |
| 00:10.04 | znf | like what? |
| 00:10.17 | znf | genuinely curious |
| 00:10.28 | znf | I don't really follow the development |
| 00:10.52 | Funkeh` | https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/notepad-7.6.2-released.html https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/notepad-7.6.4-released.html |
| 00:12.15 | nebula | i mean, who cares, doesn't change anything |
| 00:13.04 | nebula | i feel like most oss projects have some sort of dev melodrama attached now-a-days |
| 00:13.51 | nebula | (not that its a new thing) |
| 00:13.56 | Funkeh` | i care |
| 00:14.10 | Funkeh` | they focus on dumbassery like that instead of ficxing the *new* bugs they've introduced |
| 00:14.20 | Funkeh` | like fucking up UTF8 detection |
| 00:24.11 | Stanzilla_ | time for our lord and savior https://code.visualstudio.com |
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| 00:24.57 | Funkeh` | does that work for lua |
| 00:25.13 | Stanzilla_ | yes |
| 00:25.16 | Funkeh` | and does it load files fast instead of taking 30min like atom |
| 00:25.27 | nebula | it is quite a bit faster than atom, yes |
| 00:26.50 | Stanzilla_ | yes |
| 00:27.40 | Funkeh` | ill give it a shot |
| 00:28.02 | Funkeh` | also quite concerned at the number of exploits being fixed the past 4 versions from that EU thing |
| 00:28.10 | Stanzilla_ | https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=trixnz.vscode-lua |
| 00:28.18 | Funkeh` | I always thought it was a pretty simple editor but apparently not |
| 00:28.25 | Stanzilla_ | and I guess you have luacheck installed anyway |
| 00:29.46 | znf | well, I can understand the first link that Funkeh` brought |
| 00:29.49 | znf | the yellow vest stuff |
| 00:29.54 | znf | but he's got a point for the 2nd one :P |
| 00:30.21 | znf | the prices on the stupid code cert crap is stupidly high when you consider OSS projects |
| 00:30.49 | znf | it may not be much - I think it was around $100 last time I checked? - but it's still $$ |
| 00:31.01 | Stanzilla_ | also https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=CoenraadS.bracket-pair-colorizer can't live without that anymore :D |
| 00:31.35 | Corrodias | huh, neat |
| 00:32.06 | znf | can I use visualcode crap without defining a project and all other shit? |
| 00:32.10 | znf | just like a simple code editor? |
| 00:32.11 | Stanzilla_ | yes |
| 00:32.21 | znf | actually, I'm wondering, why the fuck don't I just use vim on windows |
| 00:32.32 | znf | oh, right, because the console emulation is still crap |
| 00:32.34 | Stanzilla_ | because vim is terrible |
| 00:32.35 | nebula | because you're not a psychopath |
| 00:32.42 | nebula | ...or are you |
| 00:32.43 | znf | I use vim on mac/linux :-| |
| 00:32.43 | Corrodias | all good answers |
| 00:32.49 | Stanzilla_ | why man |
| 00:32.52 | Corrodias | well, one out of 3 isn't bad |
| 00:32.56 | Stanzilla_ | just use nano if you need it in the console |
| 00:32.58 | nebula | i use vim on console, always have |
| 00:33.00 | nebula | nano is shit |
| 00:33.00 | Stanzilla_ | vim is like..hurt |
| 00:33.02 | znf | ew, nano |
| 00:33.04 | Stanzilla_ | you are shit |
| 00:33.08 | nebula | your face is shit |
| 00:33.14 | Stanzilla_ | your mom is shit |
| 00:33.27 | Funkeh` | is it "community 2017" im wanting |
| 00:33.27 | nebula | wow, what did my mom ever do to you |
| 00:33.41 | znf | I think you want VS Code, Funkeh` |
| 00:33.44 | nebula | Funkeh`: no that's full vs |
| 00:33.55 | znf | https://code.visualstudio.com/ |
| 00:34.04 | Stanzilla_ | I linked you the correct thing |
| 00:34.07 | Stanzilla_ | but yeah what znf said |
| 00:34.34 | znf | I have pretty much all the editors installed |
| 00:34.41 | znf | I still go back to N++ |
| 00:34.58 | znf | for instance, I just started VSCode now, after a while, and for almost 2 seconds the UI was blank |
| 00:35.02 | Stanzilla_ | I still have sublime as default file handler for most things |
| 00:35.08 | Stanzilla_ | just because it starts faster than vscode |
| 00:35.52 | Stanzilla_ | but when I work on a project I always use vscode |
| 00:36.08 | znf | I rarely work on "projects" in that sense on Windows |
| 00:36.13 | Stanzilla_ | I have this project manager installed where I just hit shift p and enter |
| 00:36.14 | Stanzilla_ | https://i.imgur.com/0UBcxvO.png |
| 00:36.14 | nebula | vscode ignores your excludes, too, that's kind of annoying |
| 00:36.17 | Stanzilla_ | and it gives me a list of projects |
| 00:36.27 | nebula | git excludes* |
| 00:36.28 | znf | I tend to stick to vim if I edit php or shell scripts, or python |
| 00:36.29 | Stanzilla_ | nebula: that's a setting |
| 00:36.49 | nebula | nope, it just does it own parsing of .gitignore |
| 00:37.02 | nebula | if you do stuff in info/excludes it doesn't give a fuck |
| 00:37.24 | znf | ok, random stuff - I was testing crap in Firefox these days - why is their Developer Console better than Chrome's? :-( |
| 00:37.32 | Ressy | 29705 just pushed. |
| 00:37.45 | Stanzilla_ | nebula: well you can turn it off for search I think |
| 00:38.01 | Stanzilla_ | `"search.useIgnoreFiles": true,` |
| 00:38.21 | nebula | bitch i just told you, that only matters for .gitignore and .ignore files |
| 00:38.35 | Stanzilla_ | :E |
| 00:38.43 | nebula | not how it uses git status itself |
| 00:39.17 | Funkeh` | znf: I'm always told it's worse which is why I thought it was such a big focus of every new version |
| 00:39.35 | znf | It has some nice nifty features |
| 00:39.52 | znf | For example, you can enable a panel for CSS changes, where it shows you all the classes you changed and what you added/removed |
| 00:39.56 | nebula | all the dev tools are pretty good now a days, chrome started the trend but firefox and even edge have pretty robust dev tools |
| 00:40.04 | Stanzilla_ | does n++ even have multi caret editing? |
| 00:40.28 | nebula | yea, it's have find/replace |
| 00:40.31 | nebula | called* |
| 00:40.38 | Stanzilla_ | pfff |
| 00:40.46 | znf | Or, there's a "highlight all elements using this class" thing when you click on a square in the css class |
| 00:40.50 | znf | I found those two pretty nifty |
| 00:41.00 | znf | But the FF one /does/ suck more on the network panel |
| 00:41.45 | Funkeh` | every update has a whole bunch of changes for it |
| 00:46.16 | Tercioo | on this vscode can I add a list of words (the entire blizzard api) to auto fill/complete list? |
| 00:47.05 | znf | Tercioo, https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=Septh.wow-bundle |
| 00:47.23 | Tercioo | great thanks |
| 00:48.02 | znf | man, running water is underrated |
| 00:48.09 | znf | water company is doing maintenance work, damn it |
| 00:48.13 | znf | from 1am to 8pm, wtf |
| 00:49.00 | Tercioo | <Stanzilla_> what's the name of that project manager for vscode? |
| 00:49.25 | nebula | heh, he depended on foxlit's helix stuff, too, rip |
| 00:50.18 | Stanzilla_ | https://gist.github.com/Stanzilla/ebd263f294ee80ed4d3ea05e05dfea2f are the extensions I run |
| 00:50.22 | Stanzilla_ | (about to go to bed) |
| 00:50.39 | Stanzilla_ | felipecaputo.git-project-manager |
| 00:51.21 | Tercioo | thank you sir! |
| 00:51.44 | Stanzilla_ | TabOut is also really cool |
| 00:52.11 | Tercioo | ah nice! i'll take a look |
| 00:53.19 | Stanzilla_ | you can install extensions via the command line as well btw, the list I also generated with it, `code --list-extensions | clip` |
| 00:54.00 | Tercioo | good to know this as well! |
| 00:54.14 | Tercioo | thank you! |
| 00:56.31 | Stanzilla_ | np |
| 00:57.02 | Stanzilla_ | I made this a while ago but not sure how up to date it still is https://github.com/WeakAuras/WeakAuras2/wiki/Lua-Dev-Environment |
| 00:57.30 | znf | what's foxlit's helix stuff |
| 00:57.49 | nebula | globals, events, and enums he pulled out of the exe |
| 00:58.05 | znf | oh, and why RIP? :( |
| 00:58.19 | Stanzilla_ | obfuscation |
| 00:58.21 | znf | becuase .exe's are obfuscated now? |
| 00:58.23 | nebula | when they changed how they packed the exe it made it hard to find |
| 00:58.24 | znf | :( |
| 01:00.05 | znf | meh, I see how ownedcore is pretty much dead in that section these days :D |
| 01:00.14 | Ketho | the wowpedia page is updated https://wow.gamepedia.com/Global_functions |
| 01:00.40 | znf | yeah, but that's manual work |
| 01:00.57 | znf | last time I had to look up something there was no proper info on it, was around 8.1 |
| 01:02.01 | nebula | i wrote some python stuff to do it, basically loads all of the wow framexml using lupa and dumps the globals |
| 01:02.08 | nebula | but meh |
| 01:02.29 | znf | _fuck_ |
| 01:02.39 | znf | I was dev-console-ing a document to test some crap |
| 01:02.53 | znf | ...and I forgot for a brief second where I was, and I refreshed |
| 01:04.18 | nebula | thanks for that Ketho :p i had been outdated for so long i'd forgotten that was even there |
| 01:04.24 | nebula | it had* |
| 01:06.22 | Ketho | I did the same thing, dump the framexml globals and compare |
| 01:14.39 | znf | hmmm |
| 01:14.41 | znf | I'm confused |
| 01:14.50 | znf | does github not allow private repos for organizations (for free)? |
| 01:15.30 | znf | ie: they did the whole private repo thing only for individual accounts? |
| 01:15.59 | znf | meh, yeah :( |
| 01:21.25 | TukuiDevs | <Simpy> gitlab is cool tho |
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| 02:28.48 | znf | yeah, but I didn't really want self-hosted |
| 02:29.09 | znf | oh, wait, gitlab has a free plan right |
| 02:29.10 | znf | ? |
| 02:30.13 | znf | we're only 3 people in our organization, would have been nice to store some of our assets in a private repo (like vector graphics, for example) |
| 02:44.21 | TukuiDevs | <Simpy> https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/ |
| 02:58.46 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> gitlab has free repos |
| 03:00.31 | TukuiDevs | <Azilroka> if you make an account and login.. you have access to make repos just like github |
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| 03:24.10 | Simca | strings are not obfuscated in WoW binary, still easy to pull things that way, even if they're slightly scrambled or out of order in areas due to compiler optimizations. you can also pull Lua enums and other things just from ingame itself. |
| 03:35.21 | tz | someone needs some constexpr'ification |
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| 05:33.04 | Simca_ | worldmaptooltip typo fixed an hour and a half ago |
| 05:33.08 | Simca_ | in build 29718 |
| 05:33.37 | Simca_ | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/live/Blizzard_Deprecated/Deprecated_8_1_5.lua new version has correct capitalization |
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| 16:26.02 | VIad | hmm, is it me or is nameplateSelfBottomInset resetting back to 0.2 constantly? it's too close to middle of my screen, so doesn't look like the cvar works, or is being reset all the time by something else |
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| 16:38.04 | Tercioo | cvar issue in the client |
| 16:38.58 | nevcairiel | if you use KNP then just enable its ability to control cvars and it should re-set them when needed |
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| 17:50.13 | VIad | I noticed in the dungeon they were normal, but in the world the nameplate was middle-ish of screen. oh well just good to know I shouldnt mess around with cvars too much if its a bug. might just as you said work around it with KNP. |
| 17:50.16 | VIad | thanks! |
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| 18:40.25 | ls- | @TSquare, regarding yesterday's topic about ANCHOR_NONE, figured out the missing piece of that puzzle, item comparison should be enabled, so setting "alwaysCompareItems" to 1 should do the trick |
| 18:40.30 | ls- | or holding shift |
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| 19:19.11 | TSquare | @ls- that was it, thank you! |
| 19:20.15 | ls- | noice, yw :D |
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| 20:57.11 | ThiefMaster | wtf, since the last patch i apparently can't use shift+1-6 anymore to switch between the (blizzard) action bars |
| 20:58.13 | ThiefMaster | hm, xloot tainting action bars, great |
| 20:58.45 | TukuiDevs | <Simpy> https://twitter.com/WarcraftDevs/status/1105531579437334528 |
| 20:59.22 | ThiefMaster | thx |
| 20:59.23 | ThiefMaster | but WHY? ;x |
| 21:00.48 | TukuiDevs | <Simpy> some questions are better not asked |
| 21:01.13 | ThiefMaster | and having to fix that for all characters sucks too ;x |
| 21:25.49 | cawaker | yeah its a weird thing isnt it? |
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| 22:47.40 | Ketho | what does the nilable attribute signify for the arguments and returns in Blizzard_APIDocumentation? |
| 22:47.47 | Ketho | if it means an argument can be optional, I'm honestly confused what it means for a return value |
| 22:48.27 | nevcairiel | it can return nil, is what it means |
| 22:49.27 | Ketho | ow, thanks |
| 22:49.42 | nevcairiel | for arguments it means you can pass nil for them, or if its at the end possibly omit them, for return values that you should check if its non-nil before using them in any manner that might otherwise explode |
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| 23:07.16 | znf | lol @ this https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/b132k7/smooth_fellas/ |
| 23:25.55 | TukuiDevs | <Simpy> hah |
