| 00:00.18 | Stanzilla | use legion flasks |
| 00:05.44 | foxlit | bfa follower equipment: "Using this item will bind it to you" << damn lies. |
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| 00:12.31 | Crosshash | How is it a lie? |
| 00:12.47 | foxlit | the item will be consumed. |
| 00:13.13 | Crosshash | Is it? Or is it "moved" to the follower? |
| 00:14.28 | foxlit | If I ask the follower really nicely, will they give it back to me? |
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| 03:27.20 | znf | Semlar: why is this annoying Internal Bag Error even exist? |
| 03:27.26 | znf | s/is/does/ |
| 03:27.45 | Semlar | async operations |
| 03:28.00 | znf | so why does it error? >_< |
| 03:28.12 | znf | it's annoying me, it adds 1 second to my fishing spree |
| 03:28.58 | Semlar | it happens when i auto-loot my mailbox too |
| 03:29.24 | Semlar | the game doesn't seem to handle doing a lot of inventory updates quickly |
| 03:30.17 | znf | I only get it when I cast fishing during looting the previous fish |
| 03:30.20 | znf | it's annoying as hell |
| 03:30.31 | znf | I tought I could only get it when using the EasyCast feature of FishingBuddy |
| 03:30.39 | Semlar | you can't expect the game to be able to do 2 things at once |
| 03:30.39 | znf | but here I am getting it with my controller, too :( |
| 03:31.03 | Semlar | so did someone really name an addon fishingbuddy |
| 03:31.14 | Semlar | because i'm pretty sure that's the name of the fishing bot people used to use |
| 03:31.58 | Cairenn | Fishing Buddy has been around for years |
| 03:32.09 | znf | the addon has existed since 2008 :P |
| 03:32.25 | znf | long before Honor Buddy & Co |
| 03:32.45 | Semlar | awkward |
| 03:33.45 | znf | Honestly, I think it's one of the oldest addons in the game :D |
| 03:34.03 | Cairenn | It's right up there, yes |
| 03:34.04 | Semlar | what does it even do |
| 03:34.21 | Semlar | i can't think of too many things i'd need an addon to augment for my fishing experience |
| 03:34.26 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4239-FishingBuddy.html |
| 03:34.31 | znf | next to bw, dbm |
| 03:34.40 | znf | oh, OmniCC has been around since 2006 |
| 03:34.42 | znf | geez |
| 03:35.12 | Semlar | i remember writing my first addon in BC |
| 03:35.21 | znf | https://wow.curseforge.com/addons?filter-sort=1&page=856 |
| 03:35.33 | Semlar | i wanted to track the duration of my freezing trap |
| 03:35.55 | znf | wonder which is the oldest addon created that is still maintained |
| 03:36.08 | znf | hey Torhal, can you run a query to find out? |
| 03:36.14 | Semlar | you couldn't get who the trap belonged to when it went off |
| 03:36.21 | Semlar | the api was terrible |
| 03:36.33 | Semlar | i had to just assume any trap that went off was mine |
| 03:36.36 | znf | https://wow.curseforge.com/addons?filter-game-version=2020709689:7003&filter-sort=1&page=115 |
| 03:36.43 | znf | I guess it's Titan Panel |
| 03:38.35 | znf | page 114 is actually more interesting |
| 03:39.07 | znf | buffwatch++ has been around since 2005 |
| 03:39.15 | znf | yet it somehow only has 16k downloads |
| 03:39.21 | Semlar | "Tired of trying to solo in peace at your favorite spawn, only to have random unannounced party invites thrown in your face?" |
| 03:39.23 | znf | (never heard about that addon) |
| 03:39.27 | Semlar | wow, it's as if nothing has changed since 2006 |
| 03:39.33 | znf | lol |
| 03:40.03 | znf | wow, someone keeps trying to update this https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/perl-classic-unit-frames |
| 03:40.47 | znf | also, "ChatBuddy" |
| 03:40.51 | znf | 227 downloads |
| 03:40.56 | znf | SINCE 2005 ?! |
| 03:40.58 | znf | how the hell |
| 03:41.17 | znf | When you look at this, it's even more hilarous https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/project-842/files |
| 03:41.33 | znf | there's a 9 year break :D |
| 03:41.54 | Semlar | it got quite a lot bigger at one point |
| 03:42.28 | znf | lol indeed |
| 03:42.38 | znf | wth did he do that time |
| 03:42.57 | znf | ah, he included sounds |
| 03:43.19 | znf | I want to know these people's stories |
| 03:43.31 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.55 | Semlar | now i have an addon to try and get the game to stop telling me i have unspent talent points |
| 03:44.52 | znf | are hunter Aspects a thing anymore? |
| 03:45.01 | Semlar | not like they used to be |
| 03:45.07 | Semlar | they're basically just cooldowns now |
| 03:45.20 | Semlar | instead of stances |
| 03:45.34 | znf | oh :( |
| 03:45.48 | Semlar | like aspect of the cheetah is just a temporary run speed increase |
| 03:46.57 | Semlar | i'm guessing some of these addons were somehow recovered from an older version of the website and their download counts are wrong |
| 03:49.49 | znf | I'm still wondering where the fuck is blizzard going with the story in this expansion |
| 03:50.02 | znf | My preference to play Undead has always been about Sylvanas |
| 03:50.11 | znf | If they kill her off, I'm gonna be upset |
| 03:50.20 | Semlar | what is dead may never die znf |
| 03:50.58 | znf | also the 8.1 scenario seems really really shitty |
| 03:51.02 | znf | I don't want to side with Saurfang |
| 03:51.06 | znf | like, at all, fuck that guy |
| 03:51.30 | znf | I couldn't care less about him and his "honor" bullshit :-/ |
| 03:52.09 | znf | I mean, we were literally going to break him out of jail |
| 03:52.19 | znf | but no, he wanted to stay behind, because he's a pussy |
| 03:53.11 | znf | and now in 8.1 we are getting a stupid cloak with a flavor text about revolution |
| 03:53.22 | znf | the WoW story-writers have really gone off the rail |
| 03:54.51 | Semlar | oh my god, i forgot you couldn't used to see the actual health value of a target |
| 03:55.13 | znf | hmm? |
| 03:55.25 | Semlar | you could not get the numerical value of the health of a unit |
| 03:55.48 | Semlar | you didn't know if the mob you were looking at had 10,000 health or 100,000 |
| 03:56.08 | znf | in vanilla, you mean? |
| 03:56.15 | Semlar | i don't remember when it was changed |
| 03:56.22 | znf | it's ok, you'll get that soon in Classic |
| 03:56.39 | Semlar | i doubt it was vanilla because i didn't start playing until right before BC |
| 03:57.09 | znf | is it bad of me that I want Classic to fail badly? |
| 03:57.14 | Semlar | yes |
| 03:57.45 | znf | People keep insisting that because people still play it, it was good |
| 03:58.01 | znf | But I still say that it's because private servers have no subscription... |
| 04:00.27 | Semlar | there was an addon called mobhealth that tried to estimate the target's actual health based on damage done and how much % health it lost |
| 04:01.26 | znf | I need to fish ±50 more fishes and then I can go to sleep |
| 04:01.31 | znf | then sell 20 x feasts for 60k |
| 04:11.09 | Mr_Rabies | i don't want classic to fail badly, but i don't want them to waste resources propping it up if it does |
| 04:12.07 | Corrodias | i think Activision has some resources to spare |
| 04:12.37 | Mr_Rabies | activision might but blizzard is hemmoraging talent, and it's begun to show in their games |
| 04:12.43 | kd3|hate`net | ugh, mobhealth. I remember that addon |
| 04:13.05 | Corrodias | oh, that kind of resource. yeah... that's a losing battle.(net) |
| 04:17.04 | Mr_Rabies | yeah they got money to spare but it seems they stopped hiring the best of the best, and the old guard are all retiring or starting their own studios |
| 04:22.25 | znf | I don't see the issue with their other games |
| 04:22.42 | znf | we could just be biased towards WoW, because we've been playing it for so long |
| 04:22.59 | Mr_Rabies | the talent left their other games when blizzard north went under |
| 04:23.14 | Mr_Rabies | other than hearthstone, which have definitely left to do their own thing |
| 04:23.22 | Mr_Rabies | brode and his close friends at the company |
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| 10:23.45 | nevcairiel | its not like those "talented people" that started their own studios actually made successfull games, the all more or less went into obscurity :p |
| 10:34.17 | bluspacecow | is talented when you tie a knot in a cherry stem while drunk ? |
| 10:34.34 | bluspacecow | or being large breasted ? |
| 10:40.35 | nebula | wow rude, i'm sure nevcairiel worked hard to maintain his large breasts |
| 10:46.41 | Kalroth | gasp |
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| 11:26.21 | bluspacecow | lol it's a japanese anime thing |
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| 11:58.31 | foxlit | USE_BIND_CONFIRM -> "Using this item will bind it to you." (but we won't tell you what "this item" is, so have fun with that.) |
| 12:01.34 | Maldivia | hopefully you know what item you've just clicked |
| 12:02.26 | nebula | knowing foxlit, he's probably triggered it in an ambigious context |
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| 12:04.50 | foxlit | I also have an issue where /use item:someid calls UseItemByName("item:someid", nil) but doesn't trigger USE_BIND_CONFIRM (nor actually use the item) in my real code, but does trigger USE_BIND_CONFIRM in my 4-line testing harness. |
| 12:16.38 | foxlit | The difference was that my real use case had an item on the cursor. |
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| 12:53.49 | foxlit | https://hastebin.com/ekahobaqur.lua |
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| 14:01.36 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: are you using https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chrome-store-foxified/ ? |
| 14:17.02 | znf | This add-on is for users who want to install Chrome extensions into Firefox. As Mozilla completes the WebExtensions API more and more Chrome extensions will work in Firefox. |
| 14:17.04 | znf | TIL |
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| 14:22.01 | nebula | it's been a work in progress for like five years :p |
| 14:22.22 | nebula | (mozilla implementing WebExtensions) |
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| 15:03.06 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla: no, the extensions I use are already available in both stores |
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| 16:33.06 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/G5gaXZo.png |
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| 16:54.12 | foxlit | ... the alpaca rope wasn't remove on quest completion |
| 16:54.29 | nevcairiel | there is a bunch of quests that do that |
| 16:55.03 | foxlit | not the item. |
| 16:55.12 | foxlit | the spell effect that drags you back to the alpaca every 15 seconds or so |
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| 17:35.10 | foxlit | ... I don't understand herb node phasing. Stuff phases out when you get within 10 yards of it, or even when you're already casting the gathering skill at it, without any obvious zone transitions |
| 17:46.05 | AcidWeb | foxlit: Morally gray expansion. |
| 17:46.26 | Thunder_Child | I always thought it was someone else that was phased that was looting the herb/mine/etc. |
| 17:46.43 | foxlit | but nodes don't despawn when looted now. |
| 17:47.20 | Thunder_Child | Oh, it's individual loot nodes? That's nice. |
| 17:47.50 | Thunder_Child | Then I am not sure. Are nodes supposed to spawn and despawn at random intervals to simulate.....something? |
| 17:49.04 | foxlit | it seems rather tied to proximity; I don't think I've ever seen a node vanish that I wasn't close to. |
| 17:49.13 | Simca | it's delayed transitioning, foxlit. it's kind of funny because if you find the spot where the phase changes, you can sometimes make a run for it and loot it in time |
| 17:49.37 | Simca | i remember trying really hard to get a foxflower node out of my phase in highmountain and succeeding |
| 17:50.08 | Simca | it's the same kind of thing that is behind the issue where you can fly for a couple seconds inside no-fly zones like buildings |
| 17:50.45 | foxlit | some of the locations are just ... odd. |
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| 17:52.06 | foxlit | I don't know what they're phasing close to the main gate of Arom's Stand, or on the snowy area along the approach to last week's world boss in drustvar. |
| 17:58.43 | nevcairiel | nodes dont phase, they just despawn X time after someone else looted them |
| 17:59.09 | nevcairiel | which can be just unlucky |
| 18:00.37 | foxlit | well no, nodes clearly phase. |
| 18:01.32 | foxlit | There are obvious regions of the map where I can't loot a single gathering node, and I just so happen not to have done quest progression in that region. |
| 18:07.44 | foxlit | (for example around Norwington Estate) |
| 18:14.55 | Simca | yeah, the herb nodes near the meeting stone for neltharion's lair very infamously phase. |
| 18:15.11 | Simca | those are the ones i would constantly fight for foxflowers with |
| 18:15.35 | Simca | throwing myself at the phasing barrier over and over to try to get a loot cast off in time |
| 18:15.41 | Simca | then flying out a bit and doing it again |
| 18:19.52 | Thunder_Child | That doesn't sound very time efficient. |
| 18:20.00 | Thunder_Child | Or was that just out of sheer rage. |
| 18:21.34 | Thunder_Child | s/./?/ |
| 18:25.58 | Simca | mainly out of stubbornness, yeah |
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| 21:35.58 | foxlit | the lack of dedicated events for bonus loot from bfa champion equipment is a bit annoying. |
| 21:35.59 | foxlit | it just fires ITEM_PUSH -> CHAT_MSG_LOOT, and good luck associating that with a cause. |
| 21:38.37 | foxlit | hm, or maybe not. There's GARRISON_MISSION_BONUS_ROLL_LOOT(itemID) |
| 21:40.35 | foxlit | but no quantity. Maybe I can fish that out of CHAT_MSG_LOOT or some sort of delayed GetItemCount comparison |
| 21:43.32 | foxlit | also having a missionID on that event would be nice. |
| 21:43.54 | Crosshash | Looks like adding quantity is really easy. No missionID though. |
| 21:50.16 | foxlit | I wonder what fires when you get bonus azerite. |
| 21:54.54 | foxlit | (since it's normally a currency rather than an item) |
| 21:57.47 | znf | yet another dungeon where someone leaves mid-way |
| 21:57.49 | znf | gotta love russians, man |
| 22:06.22 | Constie | You could join a guild, and then you wouldn't have to PUG things and you'd have people to talk to. |
| 22:12.08 | znf | Constie, joining a guild requires me to have some schedule |
| 22:12.23 | znf | which I don't |
| 22:12.50 | nevcairiel | you know there are plenty guilds that are just a community of people to do ad-hoc things with, like dungeons |
| 22:13.11 | nevcairiel | you dont have to commit to their raiding schedule, just get a pool of p eople to generally play with |
| 22:14.48 | znf | but I hate people :P |
| 22:14.56 | znf | I have a group for raiding, which is good |
| 22:15.14 | znf | I tought I found a nice tank for M+, but he got a new job, so no more time for play :( |
| 22:23.04 | znf | lol, after 20 minutes of applying to groups, I got in a ToS+9 |
| 22:23.17 | znf | a guy managed to pull the pack at the first boss |
| 22:23.18 | znf | twice |
| 22:23.36 | znf | whole "run" lasted 8 minutes (I had 15min left on the flask before entering the dungeon) |
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| 22:44.41 | Mr_Rabies | i just don't pug anything harder than heroic dungeons |
| 22:46.39 | nebula | you're missing out |
| 22:47.09 | nebula | think of all the monologuing you could do here! |
| 23:02.36 | znf | monologues nebula |
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