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02:26.25*** topic/#wowuidev is 8.0.x ToC: 80000 || http://pastebin.com || Battletags: http://bit.ly/2MAEFxk || This channel is logged, via purl || Currently mode +r due to spam until a better solution is found.
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13:31.20foxlitwhy does GameTooltip:SetAchievementByID display bogus criteria completion state?
13:38.31Stanzillasmall indie company
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13:49.09Andols2Maybe there is a leak of the magic smoke in the tooltip thingy
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15:29.22znfTorhal, who do I beat up for twitch client bug reports?
15:29.49Torhalhttp://help.twitch.tv
15:29.59TorhalEr, https://
15:30.35Thunder_ChildI don't think you need to beat anyone up for them, people would be happy to give them to you.
15:31.18znfTorhal, is the bug report feature supposed to DO something, btw?
15:31.23znfbecause all I get is https://i.imgur.com/H1ABrHS.png -> https://i.imgur.com/rp934fU.png
15:34.15znfWish the old fucking curse client would work. That thing was functional.
15:44.50CrosshashGameTooltip:SetAchievementByID was added just for PetJournal where only the name and description were needed.
15:51.21foxlityet it displays the criteria, using a custom color that is non-neutral in terms of indicating completion state
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15:54.39Torhalznf: No idea, I deal with CurseForge.
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15:58.20CrosshashBecause the achievements it's meant to be used for have no displayable criteria.
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16:05.07foxlit"This printer is intended to be used with only plain white paper. If you happen to provide color paper, it'll still print your documents, but also draw tiny red hearts in the margins. Because it's meant to be used for plain white paper."
16:05.32znfbest feeling ever https://i.imgur.com/vxpxla8.png
16:10.11foxlitI mean, I appreciate that the API only really implements whatever the default UI needs, but someone explicitly more code than the default UI needed, and then just... left it there in a silly state.
16:13.28CrosshashYou probably want to use GameTooltip:SetHyperlink with the return of GetAchievementLink,
16:13.39foxlitthat displays nothing, iirc.
16:14.06CrosshashWhat's the achievement ID you're looking at?
16:14.15znffoxlit is doing something naughty again
16:15.35foxlithm, no, actually works just now. Not sure what I messed up while trying it earlier.
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16:24.14Funkeh`foxlit: if it's anything like GetSpellLink, some IDs will return a nil link because they are marked internally as hidden. If that's the case you can just create your own links.
16:24.41Funkeh`hidden links, at least for spells, was on the todo to "fix"
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16:28.06foxlitI ended up writing a function to populate the tooltip based on GetAchievement*Info output.
16:28.14foxlitthe slight bonus is that I can highlight individual criteria.
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16:45.06TSquareGood Morning
16:45.10TSquareHappy Monday
16:52.52ls-hi o/
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17:35.48Andols\o
17:36.09Alramand a happy monday it indeed is
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19:22.06foxlit<PROTECTED>
19:24.23Alramall this goat chasing
19:24.55Semlarmaster plan 2.0
19:24.56ls-will it become a part of your masterplan addon? or will you release a brand new addon? or is it ntbr? :P
19:30.31Thunder_ChildSo are scrollbars it would seem.
19:33.09foxlitused any mice without scroll wheels lately?
19:34.48ls-you can't imagine how many users don't realise that they can scroll something if there's no visible scroll bar or at least some hint that it's scrollable
19:35.50ls-I've heard enough horrors from ux designers at work >_>
19:36.19Thunder_ChildBesides, some people prefer to drag even if they have a scrollwheel.
19:36.29Semlarthose people are wrong
19:36.38Thunder_ChildI agree, but they still exist.
19:36.43Semlarprove it
19:36.44Thunder_ChildAnd can complain.
19:36.57Simcagoat plan
19:36.59Thunder_ChildSure, stop by my work some time and I will point them out.
19:37.15ls-actually, we're kinda going back to those times because of touch screens and whatnot
19:37.17Simcathere are those weird mac users who still use the 1 button mac mice from like 1995
19:37.29Simcathey are a special kind of strange
19:37.43ls-scrollbar is the only option to scroll something if ui doesn't support gestures or something similar
19:53.57TSquareMac's have more than one button?
19:55.16foxlitI don't think discoverability is a reasonable concern here: it's a predictable list composed of identical elements, with an obvious clipping indicating there's more content you aren't seeing.
19:56.53Thunder_ChildWhat if they try to resize the window instead?
19:57.14foxlitthere are no resizable windows in wow.
19:57.22Thunder_ChildAlso, code for the least common demoninator, which in this case is "People are stupid".
19:58.19Thunder_ChildResize the frame, is that better?
19:58.29foxlitthere are no resizable frames in wow.
19:58.57TSquarechat frames
19:58.58Thunder_ChildI'm pretty sure the map addon I use lets me resize it.
19:59.14TSquarebut I agree there mostly is not any
19:59.19foxlitchat frames are the one exception to this :)
19:59.31TSquarethe exception proves the rule!
19:59.56TSquareWoW is too state driven to allow resizing
20:00.15TSquarefor the general case, that is
20:01.45foxlitthe fun thing about macs is that there are no scroll bars.
20:02.59MentalPowerOMG its a T²!
20:03.17TSquare:D
20:03.36TSquarehow are you MP?
20:06.26p3limznf: https://github.com/Phanx/wow-addon-updater
20:07.08znfp3lim, no.
20:07.09Thunder_Childfoxlit: Sure there are.  They are just not visible until you start scrolling.
20:10.39foxlitI would've also accepted "that depends on which inputs devices are active!"
20:19.42foxlithm, switch to German text, the client wants to download 2.2GB more data.
20:19.59foxlitthat seems... verbose.
20:20.18Thunder_ChildGermans usually are.
20:20.34Thunder_ChildNeed a new word?  Mash two existing ones together.
20:23.42Simcagame has a lot of sound files at this point, including cinematic ones
20:24.35foxlitI wanted to keep English audio, though.
20:25.45foxlitIt seems that the battle.net client had a different idea.
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20:26.59Simcayeah not sure if you can mix and match sound/text for WoW
20:27.27Simcanot when the app will remove files it views as not in use anyway
20:35.59foxlit/ doesn't seem to open the chat box in german
20:36.14foxlitHow odd.
20:38.01znfwhy would you german? O.o
20:38.04foxliteh, moved it to shift-7, because / is - because - is ß.
20:38.44znfßßßß
20:38.59foxlitbecause german localized strings tend to be longer and less amenable to wrapping than their english counterparts, and I want to know how badly this breaks the layout.
20:43.51MunkDevrabble rabble ptr rabble broken 8.1 rabble they promised rabble rabble now it's monday rabble rabble rabble
20:48.31Funkeh`they didn't promise a stable build
20:49.04Funkeh`they said by the end of the week and you got it :D
21:03.34znffoxlit, does WoW's chat system handle emojis (if a valid font is provided)?
21:05.47Funkeh`it doesn't care
21:05.55Funkeh`if you want emojis use a font with them
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21:25.40StanzillaI need a translation https://i.imgur.com/Xw0wACR.png
21:33.07pompy:o
21:41.09MunkDevTrigger for something only works for target, not the entire raid
21:41.40MunkDevWhat trigger and something means is beyond the context you've provided
21:43.24ls-ask that person to post in his/her mother tongue, I'm pretty sure that you'll be able to find someone who speaks it
21:48.08foxlitgr, it really doesn't handle this gracefully. It takes the battle.net client about 3 minutes to go from "installing required files" to "optimal / you can play / still downloading more stuff" state after exiting the game while re-installing whatever locale data it is missing.
21:49.28foxlitand you can't switch desired language in the client without hitting pause on the download.
21:54.06MentalPowerTSquare: doing well, trying to get Gatherer to work on 8.x 😛
22:00.59znfStanzilla, is that a font for ants?
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22:25.41znfholy mother of text-crit https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/9iipvf/state_of_shadow_81_edition/
22:26.07Stanzillatldr: trash
22:27.26znfI feel like giving us ToF baseline + Lingering Insanity baseline + fucking SWD back would actually help a lot
22:29.23Stanzillarather have ascension baselane
22:32.20znfI can compromise between that and legacy
22:34.53znf(that's mostly because I'll choose Ascension every time)
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22:43.41znfI can't wait for 8.1 to be honest, to see how much they can't get it right again
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