| 00:01.18 | foxlit | um, that metaphor doesn't work. |
| 00:06.30 | foxlit | (as the carrot is supposed to remain out of reach while you perform some futile task to attempt to grab it, while here paying money gets you the reward instantly) |
| 00:13.41 | znf | mkay |
| 00:13.44 | znf | "free candy"? |
| 00:13.59 | znf | "free" candy |
| 00:14.17 | Corrodias | it's a MMORPG; the carrots are "having all the things" and "being unique" |
| 00:14.35 | Corrodias | forever unattainable as more people get the things you have and more things to get are added |
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| 03:01.59 | Semlar | wew token prices |
| 03:19.33 | Mr_Rabies | oof |
| 03:19.49 | Mr_Rabies | i knew i shoulda bought that token when it dipped down to 102 |
| 03:19.56 | Mr_Rabies | we'll see, it may crash harder |
| 03:20.30 | Mr_Rabies | gonna use it for a race change maybe |
| 03:20.32 | Mr_Rabies | tired of panda rogue |
| 03:24.22 | kd3 | oh damn, it's back up to 140. geez |
| 03:58.26 | Semlar | everyone's buying tokens to buy 6 months of game time |
| 04:03.46 | Semlar | and that's making other people buy tokens because the price is going up |
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| 04:47.21 | Mr_Rabies | sounds like a healthy economy! |
| 04:47.39 | Mr_Rabies | sounds like blizzard at least double dipping! |
| 04:47.43 | Mr_Rabies | possibly triple dipping! |
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| 07:16.31 | ThiefMaster | i'd love to see tokens back at ~350k+ like they used to be end of legion |
| 07:17.22 | nevcairiel | doubtful it'll go back that high without the abundant sources of gold we had during legion |
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| 11:55.16 | znf | When you don't have any decent looking Mace to transmog: https://i.imgur.com/zbb0iwZ.jpg |
| 12:00.24 | znf | oh, Honorbound quest is weapon today |
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| 12:58.23 | Kalroth | weaponize it! |
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| 16:31.40 | Semlar | well tokens are back down, that was quick |
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| 16:43.28 | s_e | are there any options for profiling addons? |
| 16:44.12 | znf | save yourself the time, they don't work |
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| 16:58.24 | s_e | I see. |
| 16:59.50 | Tercioo | <s_e> for cpu usage profiling? you may use Addons CPU Usage\ |
| 17:00.52 | foxlit | it's kind of futile because time attribution follows taint attribution. |
| 17:00.52 | s_e | I was looking for something a bit more in depth, but that'll do. Mostly for ironing out what's causing short freezes and so on |
| 17:02.07 | Tercioo | yeah, for that use /cpu realtime |
| 17:02.21 | Semlar | just blame WA |
| 17:02.23 | Tercioo | but take in mind what foxlit told |
| 17:03.12 | s_e | just looking for a more reliable and importantly quicker process than doing some sort of split testing |
| 17:04.10 | Semlar | when is it happening |
| 17:06.33 | s_e | haven't pinned it down yet, only just noticed it |
| 17:08.09 | s_e | wasn't immediately obvious |
| 17:09.34 | Semlar | Ssateneth: marco |
| 17:46.26 | s_e | @Semlar, could well be WA actually, seems fairly random but approximately close to combat |
| 17:46.51 | s_e | so during or soon after combat ends |
| 17:47.00 | Semlar | people write pretty terrible auras |
| 17:47.03 | s_e | but it's infrequent right now |
| 17:47.21 | s_e | I have a bunch of Luxthos auras and details loaded, that's it |
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| 18:46.08 | Stanzilla | Infus is currently rewriting our bufftrigger system so it does do less work |
| 18:46.16 | Stanzilla | the UnitAura change fucked us over pretty hard there |
| 19:16.12 | foxlit | show us on this number line how hard it fucked you. |
| 19:18.13 | ls- | lmao |
| 19:18.26 | foxlit | (but seriously, "we used to be able to do 72 queries per second but now we can only do 36" might be interesting) |
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| 19:32.34 | znf | My FPS in raids goes down to 15 :D |
| 19:32.42 | znf | when someone does BL, I drop to 5 |
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| 20:02.27 | ThiefMaster | do i have to start from scratch when leaving a warfront? |
| 20:03.21 | TSquare | yea, you have to go back to being level 1 |
| 20:03.45 | znf | your char gets deleted |
| 20:04.19 | TSquare | :P |
| 20:04.37 | TSquare | Each Warfront is it's own instance. |
| 20:04.49 | ThiefMaster | ok so like any normal scenario |
| 20:04.51 | TSquare | Think of it like a BattleGround or Scenario |
| 20:04.53 | TSquare | yea |
| 20:20.53 | znf | Are DBM users the ones that do the stupid {rt0} shit? |
| 20:21.18 | znf | (also, wtf is that?) |
| 20:21.35 | kd3 | that's the language-agnostic version of {star} |
| 20:21.50 | znf | doesn't show up in /say tough |
| 20:22.05 | kd3 | it should unless blizz changed stuff... |
| 20:22.17 | nevcairiel | rt0 is invalid |
| 20:22.19 | nevcairiel | its 1-8 |
| 20:22.51 | kd3 | https://wow.gamepedia.com/Target_marker#Example_targeting_convention |
| 20:22.52 | nevcairiel | and valid tokens work in say |
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| 20:32.36 | Simca | yes i think that's a dbm bug |
| 20:34.18 | znf | old version of DBM I guess |
| 20:34.50 | Simca | yes, seems like it. i run latest alpha and don't have that issue myself |
| 20:37.30 | nevcairiel | ptr started downloading something and i got all excited, but it w as only some small 8.0.1 build :( |
| 20:42.57 | znf | What is wrong with pugs this week and Vectis |
| 20:43.19 | znf | they're all doing this retarded 3-places-for-vectors tactic that doesn't seem to be working at all |
| 20:44.26 | znf | Stanzilla, someone gave me a global-stuns weakaura shit like 2 years ago, which does "high cpu" |
| 20:44.30 | znf | wtf is high cpu actually doing? |
| 20:46.16 | Stanzilla | nothign anymore |
| 20:46.18 | Stanzilla | same as standar |
| 20:46.19 | Stanzilla | d |
| 20:47.39 | znf | uhm, tooltip seems to disappear if I uncheck that :D |
| 20:48.20 | Torhal | TSquare: I thought "start from scratch" meant reverting back to the original UI from 2004. |
| 20:52.31 | kd3 | whee, does that mean we get decursive and autopotion back? |
| 20:52.39 | Torhal | >.> |
| 20:52.57 | Thunder_Child | No, you just get the looks of the UI, not the functionality. |
| 20:53.19 | Torhal | "What the hell is this 'key ring' thing?" |
| 20:53.36 | nevcairiel | i liked the idea of that |
| 20:53.45 | Thunder_Child | I thought it started out of just being in your inventory> |
| 20:53.52 | Thunder_Child | s/>/?/ |
| 20:53.54 | Stanzilla | TSquare: GetLFGDungeonInfo(1888) which is Uldir returns expansion level 6 which is Legion < is it even okay if I throw these thigns at you? |
| 20:53.56 | nevcairiel | but i also liked the idea of keys in general, I was proud to have a variety of rarer keys |
| 20:54.11 | kd3 | keys wasted bag space until the key ring |
| 20:54.13 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* -of |
| 20:54.21 | kd3 | I had almost every key possible before it got removed |
| 20:58.01 | AcidWeb | I see that warfront is even bigger snore-fest than expeditions. |
| 20:59.31 | foxlit | ... the warfront gear doesn't unlock the warfront transmogs. |
| 21:00.20 | foxlit | (the 340 disenchant-fodder you get at the end of the warfront, anyway -- the weekly quest did unlock a piece, though) |
| 21:00.45 | foxlit | or not. |
| 21:00.55 | nevcairiel | the mogs get unlocked |
| 21:00.58 | nevcairiel | they just dont count in the set |
| 21:01.08 | nevcairiel | for some reason |
| 21:01.14 | nevcairiel | or at least some of them dont |
| 21:01.29 | foxlit | the set only shows the belt for me, despite the gloves and head in bags. |
| 21:03.21 | foxlit | also they have multiple identically named appearances for some slots |
| 21:06.14 | znf | ^ what this guy said |
| 21:06.29 | znf | Stanzilla, ask Infus to make a CPU profiler for auras |
| 21:06.55 | nevcairiel | better dont, people will just scream about such information without any clue what it means |
| 21:07.13 | Stanzilla | znf: /wa pstart/pstop/pprint |
| 21:07.20 | znf | :o |
| 21:08.31 | znf | I need a stun-tracker of some sorts that doesn't rely on tooltip scanning |
| 21:08.38 | Stanzilla | wago.io |
| 21:09.16 | znf | it's hard to choose one |
| 21:09.25 | nevcairiel | make your own |
| 21:09.31 | nevcairiel | thats what i would do |
| 21:09.53 | znf | I'd need to figure out what all the stun spells are in the game :D |
| 21:10.06 | znf | first one I found on wago.io didn't have mind bomb :P |
| 21:10.22 | Stanzilla | there is probably a library for that |
| 21:10.36 | Stanzilla | libplayerspells or something? |
| 21:11.45 | znf | yup, seems there's a flag for it |
| 21:13.44 | znf | so, uhm, how do I test this? |
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| 21:19.51 | znf | 1x [string ""]:1: Cannot find a library instance of "LibPlayerSpells-1.0". |
| 21:19.53 | znf | ...?! |
| 21:20.49 | foxlit | someone loadstring'ed something that depends on something you don't have. |
| 21:20.50 | znf | oh, it's load on demand, wtf |
| 21:21.53 | znf | Stanzilla, can I load a LOD library with WA? |
| 21:21.59 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 21:22.06 | Stanzilla | LoadAddOn() |
| 21:28.32 | znf | Stanzilla, can I have a piece of code that runs only upon aura loading or something? |
| 21:28.38 | znf | so I don't do LoadAddon() on every frame |
| 21:28.43 | Stanzilla | actions > on init |
| 21:32.54 | znf | meh, no idea how to do this |
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| 21:54.03 | Industrial | will ATVI go above 82 this month? :-) |
| 21:54.19 | Industrial | (activision blizzard stock) |
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| 22:34.49 | Gnarfoz | [19:34:53] <foxlit> so last week was skittish? how did that end up working out? <-- easier than in Legion, IMO, which is somewhat odd. :D |
| 22:36.53 | foxlit | numbers on that affix clearly had to change since legion, I was just wondering what they changed to. |
| 22:37.42 | nevcairiel | hard to really put a number on it, but its mostly fine |
| 22:39.25 | Gnarfoz | that's what I meant, they seem to have chosen easier numbers, relatively speaking |
| 22:40.18 | Gnarfoz | the "trigger happy dps will maybe have aggro from something on pulling a new pack" happens without skittish as well, and losing aggro on something I was already tanking rarely happened |
| 22:40.32 | Gnarfoz | so whatever it is, it's vacated its spot on the shit list for now |
| 22:41.04 | nevcairiel | only people that ever gave me any trouble were warriors when they had their CDs up, i might be fighting with them over aggro the entire packs lifecycle =p |
| 22:41.19 | nevcairiel | at the end of legion skittish was mostly zero effort |
| 22:41.23 | nevcairiel | after they nerfed it |
| 22:47.03 | jaxdahl | given "Warfronts-BaseMapIcons-Empty-Armory", how do I get the TexturePath to use with |TTexturePath|t ? doing |TWarfronts-BaseMapIcons-Empty-Armory|t didn't seem to work |
| 22:47.14 | jaxdahl | need the full path somehow? |
| 22:50.45 | Funkeh` | use the textude id so you don't need a giant string |
| 22:52.07 | Funkeh` | although that sounds more like a texture kit not a texture |
| 22:56.44 | jaxdahl | well i want to insert it into a text string in a weakaura |
| 22:56.45 | jaxdahl | so i don't have to mess with it as a separate icon |
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| 23:05.11 | Torhal | jaxdahl: It's an Atlas. Use this: https://ghostbin.com/paste/jom3j |
| 23:10.57 | jaxdahl | ah, GetAtlasInfo is what i was trying to find |
| 23:11.08 | jaxdahl | thanks for the code too! |
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| 23:19.07 | Stanzilla | good guy Torhal |
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| 23:37.28 | foxlit | jaxdahl: there are native atlas escapes. |
| 23:38.19 | foxlit | see e.g. http://townlong-yak.com/framexml/go/CreateAtlasMarkup |
| 23:43.03 | nebula | neat, i didn't know about that |
| 23:44.01 | jaxdahl | should an iconFileID work with |T...|t ? |
| 23:44.17 | nebula | yes |
| 23:44.29 | nebula | you'll be hard pressed to get a filename from the api |
| 23:46.37 | znf | remember when we had TheDanW? :( |
| 23:47.57 | Funkeh` | we have tpain now |
| 23:48.05 | nebula | does he know to ignore you? |
| 23:48.18 | nevcairiel | just give it a few hours, he'll figure it o ut |
| 23:48.40 | jaxdahl | https://i.imgur.com/OzJC8iI.png |
| 23:48.50 | jaxdahl | got the basics going |
| 23:48.54 | jaxdahl | just a few things to tweak now |
| 23:51.03 | TheDanW | znf: i 'member |
| 23:51.18 | jaxdahl | just sticking around here for fun? |
| 23:51.38 | Funkeh` | it's to taunt us now and then |
| 23:51.48 | Stanzilla | I still start to type your name to throw some bug at you and then I remember and go cry in a corner |
| 23:51.53 | Funkeh` | "remember im working on an unnanounced project guys get excited" |
| 23:53.49 | jaxdahl | is it the project to improve azerite traits |
| 23:54.23 | Funkeh` | he's not a designer |
| 23:54.31 | jaxdahl | just making a joke |
| 23:54.41 | TheDanW | believe it or not i didn't evict everything i knew about wow monday ;p |
| 23:55.16 | Funkeh` | how do you even put a project behind you that you've been working on so long |
| 23:55.22 | Funkeh` | can't be easy |
| 23:56.39 | Thunder_Child | It is if you have fatigue from it. |
| 23:57.25 | Funkeh` | he could have easily fix that if that was the issue, just leave the channel |
| 23:57.27 | TheDanW | i'm still going to hang around and answer questions whenever i can, i wouldn't want to miss Semlar's next adventure in tainting the entire UI |
| 23:57.41 | Semlar | i would never |
| 23:57.45 | kd3 | hahahahaha |
| 23:57.55 | Semlar | intentionally |
| 23:57.57 | Thunder_Child | I think he just got hired to fix/repair an addon so it should be soon. |
| 23:58.01 | kd3 | actually broke out laughing in the office for that |
| 23:58.07 | znf | I think I hit a glitch in the matrix https://i.imgur.com/k3Bgclk.png |
| 23:58.17 | Funkeh` | TheDanW are we all going to have a party when dropdowns are no longer an issue |
| 23:58.30 | jaxdahl | znf, maybe they have mage and lock looking to soak loot |
| 23:58.53 | znf | I'll never find out, I got declined :D |
