| 00:00.38 | jaxdahl | i'm not sure why the window isn't moveable with this one |
| 00:00.46 | Semlar | i think it's broken |
| 00:00.54 | Semlar | might be an issue with wago |
| 00:01.11 | Thunder_Child | Torhal: Yes we do, see my comment. |
| 00:01.24 | Semlar | because it only has one item in that group, whereas the other one as a number of children |
| 00:01.37 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: He said he's here, he didn't say if he was taking Dan's place or if he was feeling us out to see if we bite. |
| 00:01.42 | jaxdahl | 9/4/2018 "combined everything into one aura" |
| 00:01.48 | jaxdahl | mine is from before that |
| 00:02.18 | Thunder_Child | Torhal: True, although I think that was implied. |
| 00:02.26 | Torhal | Mayhap. :D |
| 00:02.47 | Thunder_Child | And yes, we do bite. |
| 00:03.59 | s_e | @znf, actionIDs are how actions end up in barslots |
| 00:04.46 | s_e | I want a way of making certain bars not flip when I change specs, but in reality the game gives you 120 new actionslots |
| 00:05.11 | s_e | so a way of avoiding it might be to copy the IDs across when you switch spec (either manually or automatically) |
| 00:05.26 | s_e | just for stuff like mounts and professions and things |
| 00:05.45 | Resike | well shiet |
| 00:06.01 | s_e | Resike ? |
| 00:09.35 | s_e | anyway, I was wondering if there was an addon that already did that, if not I guess that could be a good first major project |
| 00:09.39 | s_e | for me |
| 00:09.46 | Semlar | i wonder how WA handles broadcasting an aura this large to another player |
| 00:10.13 | Semlar | this is like 400kb |
| 00:11.43 | znf | the fuck do you have in 400kb? |
| 00:12.01 | znf | is that a whole fucking boss-mod in 400k?! |
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| 01:10.30 | Thunder_Child | Semlar: Where do you want bug reports? |
| 01:10.46 | Semlar | i don't need bug reports my addons are perfect |
| 01:11.03 | Thunder_Child | Oh, so this error is a feature? |
| 01:11.07 | Thunder_Child | My mistake. |
| 01:11.10 | Semlar | yes |
| 01:11.20 | Semlar | whatever it is it's working as intended |
| 01:11.54 | Thunder_Child | Uh huh/ |
| 01:12.40 | Thunder_Child | I also rather like the link the twitch client gave me. https://www.curseforge.com%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20/wow/addons/worldflightmap |
| 01:12.58 | Thunder_Child | Another feature I am sure. |
| 01:13.43 | Semlar | what do you propose is the problem |
| 01:14.06 | Thunder_Child | hmm? |
| 01:14.14 | Semlar | the bug report |
| 01:14.35 | Semlar | you didn't say what you're having an issue with |
| 01:14.47 | Thunder_Child | Short version "Interface\AddOns\WorldFlightMap\WorldFlightMap.lua:299: attempt to index local 'startPin' (a nil value)" |
| 01:15.00 | Thunder_Child | Pretty sure I disabled all map addons. |
| 01:15.27 | jaxdahl | Semlar i think i'd also like certain talents to auto-swap in the button, such as blade rush/killing spree |
| 01:15.33 | Semlar | what flight point are you at |
| 01:16.48 | Thunder_Child | https://www.wowhead.com/npc=20234/runetog-wildhammer |
| 01:17.16 | Semlar | and it does this after reloading? |
| 01:17.38 | Thunder_Child | Yes. |
| 01:17.58 | Thunder_Child | Hmm, but seemingly only to other points in hellfire. |
| 01:18.06 | Thunder_Child | The one to shatt doesn' |
| 01:18.08 | Thunder_Child | t error |
| 01:19.16 | Semlar | can you turn off the addon and see if the normal blizzard flight map actually works |
| 01:20.08 | Thunder_Child | No error on mouseover with wfm disabled. |
| 01:22.13 | Semlar | it's having an issue figuring out what the route is from where you are to your destination |
| 01:22.28 | Thunder_Child | What route? it's direct. |
| 01:22.52 | Semlar | doesn't matter, still the same function |
| 01:23.41 | Semlar | as far as i can tell it thinks your location doesn't exist |
| 01:23.59 | Thunder_Child | Story of my life. |
| 01:24.59 | Semlar | is WFM drawing an icon on the map at the flight master you're at? |
| 01:26.15 | Thunder_Child | Not that I see, unless it is being covered by my arrow. |
| 01:26.50 | Semlar | well it sounds like it literally doesn't think the node you're at exists, and is trying to draw a line from it to your destination and failing |
| 01:27.05 | Semlar | because there's no start point |
| 01:27.24 | Thunder_Child | Makes sense since the lines it is showing when I mouse over the other points is to off the right of the map. |
| 01:27.31 | Semlar | i'm not sure why it doesn't think it exists |
| 01:27.46 | Semlar | wait are you using the latest version? |
| 01:27.46 | Thunder_Child | All but shatt, where it works, but I think that's because it's using the intermediate point. |
| 01:28.03 | Thunder_Child | 8.0.0.9? |
| 01:28.13 | Semlar | there was an issue with 2 flight points having the same name that i fixed at some point |
| 01:28.30 | Semlar | that should be fixed in that version though |
| 01:28.52 | Semlar | so if you zoom out to the continent map it still doesn't draw the point? |
| 01:29.07 | Thunder_Child | No. |
| 01:29.20 | Semlar | but hovering over shattrath somehow works? |
| 01:29.46 | Semlar | from the continent map |
| 01:29.48 | Semlar | not the zone map |
| 01:30.19 | Semlar | i would expect it to fail on the continent map because it should be trying to do the same thing |
| 01:31.02 | Thunder_Child | It fails on anything that is one hop, anything more than one hop it uses the intermediate point and is fine, but the line never gets back to my location. |
| 01:31.07 | Semlar | you're not in some weird phased version of hellfire are you |
| 01:31.14 | Thunder_Child | On both the continent and zone map. |
| 01:31.25 | Thunder_Child | I might be, I just got here. |
| 01:31.41 | Semlar | what does /dump GetTaxiMapID() give you while talking to the flight master |
| 01:32.12 | Thunder_Child | 987 |
| 01:34.02 | Semlar | https://i.imgur.com/SonT3JG.png wtf is this |
| 01:34.08 | Semlar | BLIZZARD |
| 01:35.24 | Thunder_Child | It's a feature. |
| 01:35.31 | Thunder_Child | It's so you don't get bored. |
| 01:35.56 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure this is a result of the code i'm using to re-center the flight buttons on top of the landmark icons on the world map for them |
| 01:36.12 | Semlar | and the fact that they appear to be extremely wrong for this map |
| 01:39.48 | Semlar | hm, flying through the dark portal took me to ashran, i didn't see that coming |
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| 01:50.03 | Semlar | alright well i can prevent it from throwing an error, but this shouldn't be happening |
| 01:51.23 | Thunder_Child | It's not a big deal, you are there for all of one quest. |
| 01:52.05 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure that flight point isn't being returned by C_TaxiMap.GetAllTaxiNodes() |
| 01:52.32 | Semlar | so my addon just thinks you're somehow using the flight map without being at a flight master |
| 01:53.10 | Semlar | they must be falling back to the old api functions for this |
| 01:53.26 | Semlar | for the default flight map |
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| 14:29.51 | jaxdahl | https://i.imgur.com/Ubc9RHc.png i'm trying to figure out how to get '30' and '180' from the POI info |
| 14:34.19 | nevcairiel | you already did the right steps going into the widget set, now you just have to identify the right widget you want |
| 14:34.35 | nevcairiel | 9 is "HorizontalCurrencies", sounds appropriate |
| 14:34.42 | nevcairiel | type 9, that is |
| 14:35.14 | nevcairiel | so try C_UIWidgetManager.GetHorizontalCurrenciesWidgetVisualizationInfo(widgetID) |
| 14:35.40 | jaxdahl | it's not simple to do this as i have to join the warfront and act not-afk |
| 14:35.51 | nevcairiel | it should give you a table with the currency type and value |
| 14:35.56 | jaxdahl | thanks nevcairiel |
| 14:36.24 | jaxdahl | i wonder if there are other scenarios that work like the warfront that I can afk in indefinitely |
| 14:36.33 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 14:37.10 | nevcairiel | the UIWidget stuff being used means that it uses this new flexible stuff where game designers can define their own UI for a specific use-case without new Lua having to be written |
| 14:37.16 | nevcairiel | so its likely that its pretty specific to every case |
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| 14:41.28 | jaxdahl | rad, nevcairiel https://i.imgur.com/Sg59b2Z.png |
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| 14:55.56 | jaxdahl | hmm, need a way to get a count of demolishers |
| 14:56.39 | jaxdahl | iterate through icons on map and match the icon perhaps |
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| 15:03.25 | jaxdahl | is there any way to get the HP of an untargetable doodad (i.e. Fortress Gate) without mousing over it? |
| 15:04.16 | nevcairiel | probably not |
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| 15:13.24 | Simca_ | no |
| 15:13.39 | Simca_ | and there never will be |
| 15:14.23 | Simca_ | but hopefully (I think it's on the wishlist) there will be a way to know if you have a fortress gate currently moused over |
| 15:14.30 | Simca_ | (for example) |
| 15:14.37 | jaxdahl | what wishlist |
| 15:14.42 | Simca_ | because right now you have to examine tooltip and compare localization-specific text strings |
| 15:14.47 | Simca_ | which is awful |
| 15:15.46 | Simca_ | GameTooltip:GetObject() is basically what I wish for. (:SetObject will never happen because it's exploity, setting objects is risky. getting them is not.) |
| 15:15.47 | jaxdahl | right now i'm working on a weakaura to expose warfront scenario progression info in a display so you don't have to mouseover stuff to see the state/progress of things. might make it an addon later |
| 15:16.10 | jaxdahl | the other way would be to ask blizzard to expose the gate HP somewhere else |
| 15:16.19 | Simca_ | yeah that's more realistic |
| 15:17.04 | jaxdahl | i wonder what this scenario looks like for alliance |
| 15:17.11 | jaxdahl | and what the other scenarios are like |
| 15:17.44 | jaxdahl | we'll see next week probably |
| 15:18.35 | Simca_ | more like 9-10 days |
| 15:18.36 | Simca_ | but yeah |
| 15:18.50 | jaxdahl | which is still next week. |
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| 19:40.26 | foxlit | I finally got to the mythic+ chest. |
| 19:41.32 | foxlit | It "upgraded" my shoulders by replacing "Mythic" with "Mythic 3"; no stat changes. |
| 19:46.52 | foxlit | I wonder why they didn't just bump the ilvl by 5 for the lowest tier of this to keep this kind of non-reward from happening. |
| 20:05.38 | AcidWeb | you should be happy that was not a downgrade |
| 20:06.04 | foxlit | I don't think that was a possible outcome. |
| 20:06.24 | AcidWeb | Oh sweet summer child. |
| 20:06.53 | nevcairiel | i suppose they could've, but the low mythics are not very relevant anyway, and they were pretty clear that they want azerite gear only to exist on defined levels, which match the raid levels |
| 20:08.19 | foxlit | (basically any non-azerite piece would've been better) |
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| 20:27.55 | jaxdahl | https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tndpkw4aMQ6qNV7c#fight=17&view=replay&translate=true well that's one way to do it i guess |
| 20:29.10 | jaxdahl | won't make much sense unless you've done the fight yourself or seen it or compare to another parse |
| 20:32.31 | AcidWeb | heh |
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| 20:57.45 | znf | jaxdahl: did they just go straight to last room? |
| 20:58.35 | znf | I'm on 1280x720 and I can't tell many things |
| 20:58.57 | AcidWeb | Yep. |
| 20:59.35 | AcidWeb | They healed fire that melt chamber 2 and 3 and pulled boss there. |
| 21:05.45 | s_e | They give Warfronts with one hand, and take Mythic loot progress with the other |
| 21:06.06 | znf | mmm? |
| 21:06.24 | s_e | see above |
| 21:07.49 | znf | I'm confused on the give and take part of your statement |
| 21:08.19 | s_e | warfronts were spewing reasonably high level gear for a bit, for not much effort, |
| 21:08.21 | s_e | that's all |
| 21:08.44 | s_e | I'm just being glib |
| 21:09.12 | foxlit | the equipment manager is being weird :/ |
| 21:09.24 | foxlit | since when does "ignore this slot" mean "unequip whatever I have in this slot"? |
| 21:09.26 | znf | too many memes |
| 21:09.48 | nevcairiel | ignoring works for me, however sometimes ignores dont save properly and you need to do it again |
| 21:10.18 | znf | man, I really like Parsec... except the fact that it keeps wanting to connect to my home PC trough my VPN, which works, but at 1MB/sec |
| 21:10.25 | foxlit | yeah, it seems to misinterpret on creation. |
| 21:10.33 | s_e | it's always been a bit unintuitive to me too, number of times I've saved over the wrong thing or forgot to update it |
| 21:10.48 | s_e | it should have a giant flashing warning that you've got gear on that isn't saved to your current outfit |
| 21:11.57 | s_e | I've always found that game streaming platforms are too jittery for me to enjoy them |
| 21:12.51 | s_e | also I used my steam link once and it didn't automagically turn my controller into an xbox controller so i gave up in disgust. Spoiled I guess. |
| 21:15.43 | znf | nevcairiel: you exalted with turtles yet? |
| 21:15.49 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 21:16.10 | znf | you lazied out and stopped doing quests on our island, too? |
| 21:16.13 | nevcairiel | not really in a hurry for them, dont offer anything, so i just do them occasionally |
| 21:16.24 | nevcairiel | finished all the other factions tho |
| 21:16.39 | znf | I'm only missing 1k for one faction (other than turtles, obviously) |
| 21:17.06 | nevcairiel | there were like 2 250 rep turtle thingies today, i did those |
| 21:18.43 | znf | s_e: I'm not a fan either, but I can't play wow directly on my laptop, and parsec has decent enough latency that it actually works fine |
| 21:18.55 | znf | it's just that I'm streaming at 1280x720, because that's all my laptop can do |
| 21:19.15 | s_e | if it's smooth then crappy res isn't too much of a deal |
| 21:19.26 | s_e | unless you've got a ridiculous aircraft dashboard worth of addons |
| 21:19.39 | s_e | (isn't much of a deal for me) |
| 21:20.02 | s_e | I want to unlock Maghar orcs |
| 21:20.07 | s_e | give me a grey ass orc |
| 21:20.15 | nevcairiel | they are brown |
| 21:20.23 | s_e | ok |
| 21:20.28 | s_e | brown ass orc |
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| 21:20.52 | nevcairiel | although some of the light brown colors look rather greyish |
| 21:21.03 | znf | s_e: it's smooth, but my UI looks like crap at half the size... so, uhm... |
| 21:21.12 | s_e | a tertiary and or desaturated orc |
| 21:21.20 | znf | ofc, this only works because wherever I've been now here I'm on the same ISP as home |
| 21:21.32 | nevcairiel | does it render at full res and then scale down? |
| 21:21.38 | nevcairiel | or actually render s maller? |
| 21:21.49 | znf | so I got 1Gbps between my laptop (well, my laptop's wifi only does 150Mbit), |
| 21:21.52 | s_e | I think you maybe get the choice nev |
| 21:22.02 | znf | I can set it up to render at full res and scale it down on my display |
| 21:22.12 | znf | but I'm rendering at 1280x720 on the desktop |
| 21:22.26 | znf | basically it just switches the resolution on the desktop to match the viewer's screen |
| 21:22.53 | s_e | I think most streaming stuff does downscaling normally, they'll take it at your resolution setting for the game in question |
| 21:23.05 | s_e | ah ok |
| 21:23.10 | s_e | so not that at all |
| 21:23.27 | nevcairiel | downscaling would make texts entirely unreadable most of the time anyway |
| 21:23.49 | nevcairiel | text is really not friendly to any scaling at all |
| 21:23.54 | znf | yup |
| 21:23.55 | s_e | yes that makes sense |
| 21:24.03 | znf | let me try to stream host resolution |
| 21:25.07 | s_e | i guess you could do some sort of text rerendering shim, but I bet that would need a lot of effort to implement for each game |
| 21:25.34 | s_e | for WoW it would probably be prohibitively difficult |
| 21:26.17 | s_e | if only wow used xorg for their ui right? |
| 21:26.20 | s_e | RIGHT? |
| 21:26.20 | znf | well, it works at 2560x1440 |
| 21:26.25 | znf | s_e: dear god, no |
| 21:26.33 | s_e | how does the text look? |
| 21:26.37 | znf | but the input lag is horrible :D |
| 21:26.47 | znf | and my laptop's fan is at max, cpu usage at 80% :D |
| 21:27.08 | s_e | there's gotta be some game streaming ui tech coming at some point I'd imagine |
| 21:27.24 | s_e | so you can rerender the ui on the target machine |
| 21:27.35 | znf | text is more visible when scaling down like this tough |
| 21:27.42 | znf | it's just that my UI is really not made for 1280x720 |
| 21:28.01 | s_e | maybe they do font recognition and resampling stuff? |
| 21:28.20 | s_e | i guess as long as it doesn't scale too small it won't matter too much |
| 21:29.05 | znf | also for some reasons, I can only select 30Mbps as maximum bandwidth used |
| 21:29.41 | znf | my poor Intel GPU can't seem to decode 1440p60 at full speed :D |
| 21:30.12 | s_e | yeah |
| 21:30.17 | s_e | that is actually a lot of effort |
| 21:30.28 | znf | doing 1680x1050 on the host is actually OK |
| 21:30.33 | znf | input lag is minimal |
| 21:31.02 | znf | So it's most likely my hardware not being able to keep up. |
| 21:31.16 | znf | Come to think of it, I actually did get a warning about hardware encoder when I connected at 1440p |
| 21:32.03 | nevcairiel | the encoder might also crap out there yeah, which eats away your hosts CPU performance, causing lags |
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| 21:34.35 | znf | about latency, it surely helps that my ping response time from laptop to desktop pc is 8.5ms |
| 21:36.24 | znf | hmmm, now I wonder why it's so slow, in 8.5ms at the speed of light, it should have travelled 2450kms |
| 21:36.30 | znf | and I'm only 245km's away from home |
| 21:37.13 | znf | oh wait, ping time is round-trip |
| 21:37.28 | znf | and from laptop to router it's 2ms... |
| 21:38.29 | znf | nevcairiel: is there a reason why my video is pretty dark-ish? |
| 21:39.49 | nevcairiel | usually means either the encoder or decoder screwing up the levels |
| 21:40.52 | znf | good to know |
| 21:41.02 | znf | I have to pump up the brightess in game at 65 to be able to see shit :D |
| 21:41.55 | znf | Wonder if h265 would made things better somehow |
| 21:45.41 | s_e | cause it doesn't travel quite at the speed of light, also a few caps in the routers that slow it down, error correction, and copper/fibre doesn't go in a straight line from point to point :P |
| 21:46.26 | znf | wifi is the biggest slowdown here :D |
| 21:47.33 | s_e | wifi is horrible |
| 21:48.06 | s_e | public wireless mesh networks please |
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