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| 03:12.26 | jaxdahl | i wish i could stay in the stromgarde scenario at the end and debug the AreaPOI stuff |
| 03:12.48 | jaxdahl | if i try to look like i'm doing something i still get asked if i'm afk |
| 03:34.41 | Mr_Rabies | something is hiding my "the other party has clicked accept" green thing on trade windows |
| 03:34.53 | Mr_Rabies | i didn't even think other addons messed with trade windows lol |
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| 04:21.17 | Simca_ | happening to me too Mr_Rabies |
| 04:21.28 | Simca_ | i don't even have any addons that touch that stuff |
| 04:22.40 | nebula | something about it is protected, thanks to wa |
| 04:23.02 | nebula | is it just a popup before the trade goes through? |
| 04:23.56 | Simca_ | no, he means when the other party accepts, their side of the transaction is supposed to turn green |
| 04:24.10 | Simca_ | but for me and him, it always stays gray |
| 04:24.23 | Simca_ | i think it flashes green for me right at the end for a split second before the frame closes |
| 04:24.26 | nebula | my comment was just an aside :p |
| 04:24.32 | Simca_ | oh ok |
| 04:32.07 | Mr_Rabies | guess i need to make an alt on another server and turn off all addons |
| 04:32.23 | Mr_Rabies | and see if it's just broken for everyone |
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| 08:44.56 | znf | The Warfront queue now requires a minimum item level of 320. |
| 08:45.01 | znf | so much for power-gearing alts :o |
| 08:47.19 | znf | ofcourse I get stupid pants from the M+ cache |
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| 16:34.31 | Mr_Rabies | so weird that i still get an "item not ready yet" every time i login |
| 16:34.41 | Mr_Rabies | i thought that was associated with artifact weapons, but mine are banked |
| 16:45.55 | Mr_Rabies | weird that my legendaries have a vendor price listed but cannot actually be vendored |
| 16:52.42 | Mr_Rabies | they should at least be scrappable as a 111 green or something |
| 16:53.08 | Mr_Rabies | having to manually delete each one is just mean :< |
| 16:56.04 | Constie | I thought they couldn't be deleted. |
| 16:58.12 | Mr_Rabies | i did just delete one |
| 16:58.15 | Mr_Rabies | to see |
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| 18:00.14 | Gnarfoz | anyone know an addon that lists all targets anyone in the group is interacting with, and lists how many people are targetting it (and who, possibly in a tooltip)? |
| 18:00.20 | Gnarfoz | like magictargets, but not broken |
| 18:03.32 | Thunder_Child | Stand alone? I feel like one or more of the unit frame addons do. |
| 18:04.47 | Gnarfoz | SUF doesn't, that's all I know :D |
| 18:11.39 | Thunder_Child | Vuhdo might. |
| 18:35.00 | Gnarfoz | big bad voodoo |
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| 19:04.38 | s_e | is there a sync/update tool like curse for wowinterface? |
| 19:04.49 | s_e | nevermind, minion right? |
| 19:06.10 | Thunder_Child | Yes. |
| 19:07.08 | s_e | is it.. not awful? |
| 19:07.20 | s_e | apologies if the author is in here :) |
| 19:16.27 | s_e | Wish there wasn't like 3 competing addon sites |
| 19:16.42 | s_e | or that they'd at least sync up their packages >< |
| 19:18.21 | s_e | anyone got a reasonable solution to that issue? things get updated on curse and wowinterface at different paces by the seems of it |
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| 20:01.27 | Gnarfoz | just ignore stuff on wowi, easy |
| 20:01.29 | Gnarfoz | :P |
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| 20:10.56 | s_e | but curse is also bad |
| 20:11.17 | s_e | man I have had the worst addon problems today |
| 20:11.22 | s_e | took me about 5 hours to get sorted |
| 20:12.17 | s_e | is there something that handles copying actionids across certain bars for spec switches? it's annoying to have to update that every time i move something |
| 20:14.01 | Gnarfoz | how is Curse bad (except for the various instability and weirdness some time) |
| 20:14.10 | Gnarfoz | wonders why he's starting this argument |
| 20:15.57 | s_e | I'm annoyed with Twitch these days. |
| 20:16.02 | s_e | well. amazon |
| 20:16.05 | s_e | that's all |
| 20:16.22 | Gnarfoz | sighs |
| 20:16.32 | s_e | Why is that sighworthy? |
| 20:17.27 | Gnarfoz | because "I'm annoyed with Amazon" does not relate to Curse as an addon distribution & development platform |
| 20:18.04 | s_e | you're right it does, but it does put me of |
| 20:18.05 | s_e | off* |
| 20:18.10 | s_e | doesn't |
| 20:18.50 | s_e | anyway, it's more the split in attention, I wish blizzard would just create a central repo for addons |
| 20:19.06 | s_e | some stuff isn't on curse for example |
| 20:19.29 | Gnarfoz | even more isn't on wowi, so... yeah :D |
| 20:19.55 | Gnarfoz | and Blizzard hosting addons would be seen as some kind of endorsment in the US way of thinking, so they're never going to do that |
| 20:20.26 | s_e | yeah, I know, I'm just frustrated today |
| 20:20.32 | s_e | after wrangling this mess for so long |
| 20:20.40 | Gnarfoz | still doing your font thing? |
| 20:20.53 | s_e | nah I haven't had much time |
| 20:21.12 | s_e | too busy trying to wrangle the addons I'm actually running in my own setup |
| 20:21.38 | s_e | guess it's just a case of learning which ones can keep up with api changes |
| 20:22.39 | Gnarfoz | I still have half a dozen "need to fix for bfa" addons ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 20:22.58 | MentalPower | s_e: back in the day authors were very... territorial about where their addons were uploaded and available from |
| 20:23.24 | MentalPower | So I don't think a sharing agreement between Curse & WoWI would go well for that subset of the author pool |
| 20:23.37 | Gnarfoz | it's not even for the platforms to decide |
| 20:23.38 | Alram | AMA is on btw https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/9fb2bo/john_staats_ama_author_of_the_world_of_warcraft |
| 20:23.47 | Gnarfoz | so, that wouldn't even work from a legal PoV |
| 20:24.01 | Gnarfoz | that's Staats, Slouken, Xelnath, and that 00 guy I never heard about before |
| 20:24.01 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 20:24.06 | Alram | Y |
| 20:24.10 | Gnarfoz | too bad I'm still raiding for another 35min |
| 20:24.21 | Alram | Yeah I can see you're very busy |
| 20:24.23 | MentalPower | You grant rights to both platforms, pretty sure there's wiggle room there for what is being proposed |
| 20:28.35 | MentalPower | Yep, from my naive reading, it's not outside the realm of possibility to "sub-license" from Twitch -> WoWI: https://www.twitch.tv/p/legal/terms-of-service/ (Section 8) (I am not a lawyer, and these thoughts are my own and do not represent my employer) |
| 20:29.24 | Gnarfoz | Alram: hey, lying on the ground is hard work |
| 20:31.24 | Gnarfoz | MentalPower: hmm, I guess the terms got a little wider with the years (and takeovers) |
| 20:33.43 | MentalPower | Theyâve always allowed sub licenses IIRC. |
| 20:35.09 | s_e | MentalPower, yeah I figure'd it was like that |
| 20:35.35 | s_e | hurts the users at the end of the day that's all |
| 20:35.42 | s_e | figured* |
| 20:53.45 | MentalPower | If it was ever done, it would need to come from the authors and with a clear opt-in process. |
| 20:54.33 | MentalPower | Personally, itâs kind of a pain to upload to two sites outside of our own website for every Auctioneer update, so I definitely feel your pain. |
| 20:55.03 | s_e | A Blizzard package manager would've definitely made things much less of a mess |
| 20:55.22 | s_e | this game makes me feel like there's way too much to do to get to the enjoyable part |
| 20:55.27 | s_e | sometimes |
| 20:56.44 | MentalPower | That would mean accepting the fact that you *need* addons to play the game. Iâm not sure theyâre ready to accept that, even after eight expansions. |
| 20:58.56 | foxlit | wowi already had an opt-in copy-from-curse mechanism |
| 21:00.18 | s_e | They don't really need to accept that as much as reach out to the community with support for making them an enjoyable aspect of the game. |
| 21:01.49 | s_e | I enjoy WoW partly because it is able to be so personal, because I can be particular about what information I get and I can channel it in ways that mean my poor level of attention get in the way of enjoying it. |
| 21:01.59 | s_e | doesnt* |
| 21:03.36 | foxlit | someone should start another addon site |
| 21:08.13 | foxlit | (I wonder if you could do away with ads by charging the more popular projects for bandwidth, while hosting the smaller stuff for free) |
| 21:12.34 | Mr_Rabies | could use a torrent-type swarm or some blockchain nonsense if you're really worried about bandwidth |
| 21:15.57 | foxlit | Would you really want to run a perpetually-seeding client? |
| 21:17.23 | nevcairiel | Why would I make money of my addon so I can afford bandwidth fees, just because its popular? |
| 21:18.35 | nevcairiel | addon websites should want to support popular addons, because if i have to pay to have it hosted, i might just do that myself |
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| 21:19.44 | foxlit | you *should* just do that yourself, but it's a bit of a headache to do so, and there is some calue in a centralized index |
| 21:26.03 | foxlit | I strongly suspect donation volume scales with the number of users, so it might not actually be a net loss. |
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| 21:33.31 | foxlit | this probably shouldn't involve you paying directly -- some sort of "this project requires 42 more reddit gold donations to continue to be hosted here ad-free next month" bar might be sufficient |
| 21:37.21 | foxlit | (the broader point is perhaps that addon sites ought to strive to provide a good experience for their users, and the current advertising-supported, prime-pushing, "here are the 643 companies we sell your browsing data to, good luck opting out" equlibrium isn't good) |
| 21:39.10 | Cairenn | Torhal: are you in the path of Florence? |
| 21:42.08 | kd3 | huntsville's looking like a rain event right now, but with the way the models keep changing solutions, who knows |
| 21:42.21 | Cairenn | nod |
| 21:42.22 | kd3 | my parents are in atlanta, so I've been keeping track too |
| 21:42.38 | Cairenn | Just hoping everyone stays safe |
| 21:45.02 | Semlar | it's annoying that you can't get the spec of people signing up for your group |
| 21:46.01 | foxlit | "whisper me your spec" in group description |
| 21:46.19 | Semlar | meh, doesn't really work when you have 40+ dps signing up |
| 21:46.36 | Semlar | and you're scanning the list for a frost mage, or balance druid or something |
| 21:48.04 | Semlar | i suppose you could put that you only want a frost mage in the description but then if it's taking too long to find one you can't just grab someone else |
| 21:48.43 | foxlit | you'll still get warrior applications to your "lf healer" groups |
| 21:48.58 | nevcairiel | of course, those guys never read |
| 21:49.06 | Semlar | you miss 100% of the shots you don't take |
| 21:49.15 | nevcairiel | it could be tank/3dps and dps still show up in the listing |
| 21:49.35 | foxlit | I can't even joke about their first aid skills now |
| 21:49.36 | Semlar | to be fair, sometimes people have their role set wrong in the queue |
| 21:52.18 | Semlar | you can't get the spec of people on your bnet friends list right? |
| 21:52.31 | Semlar | just the class of the character they're on? |
| 21:54.27 | Semlar | doesn't seem to return that info |
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| 22:13.12 | Torhal | Cairenn: Looks like I'm in the <1" rain section, though who knows what it'll end up as if the speed/direction changes again. |
| 22:18.40 | Alram | protect the cats |
| 22:22.25 | Cairenn | ^^ ... and yourselves! |
| 22:22.42 | Alram | (but the cats first) |
| 22:29.37 | Torhal | The cats will likely scurry underneath something before we even know there's anything to fear. |
| 22:32.38 | Cairenn | True 'nuff |
| 22:34.37 | Alram | only more reason to protect the cats first |
| 22:34.39 | Alram | they are magic |
| 22:38.51 | Cairenn | quite |
| 22:48.24 | Mr_Rabies | geez someone killed the flight master at xibala for alliance and it's taking forever to respawn |
| 22:48.59 | nevcairiel | are you sure its dead? |
| 22:49.06 | nevcairiel | some horde feel like its fun to just kite it away |
| 22:49.15 | Mr_Rabies | not entirely, but man |
| 22:49.22 | Mr_Rabies | i remember those things used to be vicious |
| 22:49.35 | Mr_Rabies | you mess with a flight master at risk to a whole raid |
| 22:49.36 | nevcairiel | yeah they used to spawn really strong mounts that protected them |
| 22:49.43 | nevcairiel | but for some reason that one doesnt |
| 22:49.56 | Mr_Rabies | when we were attacking org or uc we'd always tell people not to touch the flight masters |
| 22:54.20 | s_e | I asked this earlier but no beuno: is there something that handles copying actionids across certain bars for spec switches? |
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| 23:00.21 | znf | actionids? |
| 23:19.13 | Thunder_Child | After several years of using inbox, it is going to take some adjustment to use gmail again. |
| 23:22.05 | Resike | Is Dan out of town again? |
| 23:23.11 | nebula | he's done, got sick of your shit |
| 23:25.09 | Semlar | does anyone know if this is an addon or a weak aura https://i.imgur.com/uGhiWWD.png |
| 23:25.24 | Semlar | it's tracking raid cooldowns |
| 23:25.54 | tz | it's a WA |
| 23:26.09 | tz | used to use it back in WoD |
| 23:26.42 | Thunder_Child | Resike: Crosshash is the replacement's replacement. |
| 23:26.51 | Semlar | any idea what it's called |
| 23:27.48 | Semlar | nevermind i found it |
| 23:28.04 | Semlar | https://wago.io/RaidCDs |
| 23:29.07 | tz | https://wago.io/RaidCDs |
| 23:29.17 | tz | errr, yeah |
| 23:29.28 | Semlar | thanks |
| 23:29.30 | tz | too busy waiting for slow internet to load images |
| 23:29.33 | tz | np |
| 23:30.17 | tz | that said, something that complex should really be turned into its own addon tbh |
| 23:30.38 | tz | I don't really understand why people crowbar so much into a WA when it's easier to just throw it into a folder and make a toc |
| 23:30.57 | tz | if it's _that_ useful people will download the addon |
| 23:34.38 | Semlar | i'm honestly impressed that they managed to make this into an aura |
| 23:35.20 | Semlar | it has to be inspecting the group to get their specs |
| 23:36.57 | Semlar | WA threw an error trying to import the string, which is always a good sign |
| 23:38.13 | Resike | wat |
| 23:38.41 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.51 | Semlar | (the one from the pastebin) |
| 23:40.34 | tz | lol, awesome |
| 23:40.35 | Semlar | oh they have a patreon https://www.patreon.com/RaidCDs |
| 23:42.54 | Semlar | clicking on the aura causes my game to freeze for about 10 seconds |
| 23:43.32 | Semlar | this is my new favorite addon |
| 23:43.47 | tz | I reckon an addon->weakaura tool would be right up your alley |
| 23:44.04 | Semlar | i can't position it because clicking on it just freezes the game |
| 23:44.29 | jaxdahl | Semlar, yeah i like this WA. i haven't had that problem though |
| 23:44.36 | Semlar | hmm |
| 23:47.39 | Semlar | which string did you import it from |
| 23:48.56 | jaxdahl | i got it off wago.io a while ago |
| 23:49.00 | jaxdahl | not sure how to check which version it is |
| 23:50.59 | jaxdahl | it does make my game freeze for about 5 sec when i click the group in WA |
| 23:51.44 | Semlar | i can't move it, if i click on it it just locks the game up |
| 23:53.11 | Semlar | i suppose i could edit the lua file |
| 23:55.16 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:55.34 | jaxdahl | that looks broken |
| 23:56.11 | jaxdahl | https://i.imgur.com/Tcrk2EB.png is what i have, but maybe he's updated it since i last imported it |
| 23:57.08 | Torhal | Resike: Dan left the WoW team. His last day was Friday. We don't know if someone else from the team is going to take his place here or not. |
| 23:57.31 | jaxdahl | Semlar, just tried to import from wago.io - that's even worse than what i had. |
| 23:57.47 | Semlar | i mean, it's basically unusable as far as i can tell |
| 23:58.11 | Semlar | the pastebin link seems to not do this though |
| 23:58.27 | jaxdahl | it did eventually load for me |
