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| 03:25.09 | kd3|hate`net | eesh. Corrected an issue that caused two sets of enemies to spawn in front of Priestess Alun'za on âFrom the Shadowsâ. |
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| 04:17.50 | Chipzz | Funkeh`: ./#wowuidev-20180904.log:21:47 <@TheDanW> thanks, friday will be my last day on wow |
| 04:21.17 | Constie | RIP. |
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| 04:48.24 | s_e | I had a bug where packs double spawned in heroic atal'dazor |
| 04:48.34 | s_e | including the colossus packs |
| 04:48.40 | s_e | that was.. not fun |
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| 04:54.55 | Simca_ | it's the WQ |
| 04:54.58 | Simca_ | it happens on all difficulties |
| 04:59.35 | s_e | ah that makes sense |
| 04:59.42 | s_e | mythic must be a great time |
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| 07:20.16 | nevcairiel | <Gnarfoz> but actually faster in the game? meh. it's created once, after that's, certainly it's the same? <-- I wouldn't use performance as a reason for using XML ever, even if it is 100 times faster to create the frames, the absolute difference is still so minimal |
| 07:21.47 | s_e | nevcairiel: I'm guessing very little dynamic or repainting stuff is doable in xml without dipping into lua blocks? |
| 07:22.16 | nevcairiel | any logic always needs Lua |
| 07:22.31 | s_e | you can register events in the xml though right? |
| 07:22.52 | nevcairiel | no, you register events with Lua only |
| 07:22.59 | nevcairiel | you can embed small Lua snippets in a XML file |
| 07:23.02 | nevcairiel | but its still Lua :) |
| 07:23.09 | s_e | yeah that's what I figured |
| 07:23.48 | s_e | I'm skim reading as much stuff on addon dev as I can at the moment but not got a solid picture yet. |
| 07:24.36 | s_e | I have a background in web front and back and some C/++ graphics stuff as a hobby so it's not too bad, but lua is new to me, like a weird python/javascript hybrid |
| 07:25.43 | s_e | figuring out the ecosystem and conventions is always tricky, especially when the info is so patchy |
| 07:35.01 | Constie | https://wow.gamepedia.com/Wowpedia:Interface_customization is a good resource, if you didn't find it already. |
| 07:36.39 | s_e | so generally prefer gamepedia over wikia? wikia seems to have much better google juice >< |
| 07:37.03 | s_e | I did but I hadn't really dug into it |
| 07:37.29 | s_e | thanks! |
| 07:46.28 | znf | jaxdahl: so am I, but if I have free time I also go for the others |
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| 08:55.01 | znf | So, I'm either unlucky, or we only get 1 commander per Warfront cycle? |
| 08:55.17 | znf | which means that it will take months until we unlock that trait that requires victory against 3 commanders |
| 08:56.36 | znf | https://i.redd.it/vzo3qun3zil11.png |
| 08:56.42 | znf | well, there you go, you can actually loe :D |
| 08:58.27 | AcidWeb | Time-gated content in wow? IMPOSSIBLE. |
| 09:02.24 | Constie | Good thing the last two research tiers are pretty unexciting, I guess. |
| 09:07.04 | znf | I love Goblin logic |
| 09:07.06 | znf | [12:07:50] Wistel Silversnitch says: Ooh, look at the size of THAT thing. Hey! Anyone wanna go kill it? |
| 09:12.53 | nevcairiel | it was never in q uestion that you could lose a warfront |
| 09:13.11 | nevcairiel | only the forum moutbreathers will use "you can't lose, therefor its irrelevant" as an argument |
| 09:13.36 | nevcairiel | (not like you actually lose a ny other pve content, it might just take you forever to win it, or you give up in between) |
| 09:14.40 | Simca_ | i mean i heard so many people say you can't lose |
| 09:14.45 | Simca_ | that i honestly thought that to be true |
| 09:14.58 | nevcairiel | even if it were true, its still stupid |
| 09:15.03 | nevcairiel | its pve, you dont lose pve |
| 09:15.17 | nevcairiel | you might just fail long enough to give up |
| 09:15.32 | Simca_ | wonder what the issue was for that group |
| 09:15.47 | Simca_ | everyone attacking circle/newsted, leaving main base open for attack? |
| 09:16.03 | nevcairiel | thats usually what h appened in beta when you lost, everyone ignore defense |
| 09:16.40 | Simca_ | and nobody watched the map and whistled back to base i guess |
| 09:16.55 | nevcairiel | battlefield awareness? whats that? |
| 09:17.06 | nevcairiel | single people couldnt stop a full on push anyway |
| 09:17.10 | nevcairiel | would need a group at least |
| 09:17.19 | Simca_ | maybe a healer or tank |
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| 11:04.23 | s_e | imagine thinking strategically in WoW |
| 11:04.25 | s_e | wild |
| 11:05.28 | s_e | With a pocket healer and maybe 5 DPS and I could tank most of the flightpath place with liberal use of cooldowns |
| 11:06.06 | s_e | as prot warrior that is |
| 11:06.26 | s_e | so, a 5 man group should be able to handle each objective |
| 11:06.33 | s_e | it's a shame you can't do full premades though |
| 11:06.43 | Simca_ | less if they are smart and have 2 war raiders each |
| 11:06.52 | Simca_ | which is basically double damage |
| 11:07.17 | s_e | yeah this was really early on, I had basically no buffs but the raid buffs |
| 11:07.22 | nevcairiel | yeah with 5-6 people including a tank and potentially a healer you can do anything on there |
| 11:07.45 | s_e | was really just testing it out |
| 11:07.50 | nevcairiel | but of course you're only in one spot as well |
| 11:08.03 | s_e | i.e not being smart |
| 11:08.11 | nevcairiel | so if everyone else is just afk, you still end up being stressed out between pushing and defending |
| 11:08.16 | s_e | yeah for sure |
| 11:08.25 | s_e | i dunno how they're gonna handle that |
| 11:08.38 | s_e | didn't they have a movement cutoff in AV at one point? |
| 11:08.43 | nevcairiel | letting them lose seems like a good way to teach |
| 11:08.48 | Simca_ | i usually get 200 iron and 100 wood right at the start, turn in the wood and 60 of the iron, then save the 140 iron for later. then go take newstead. after that is taken, i whistle back, get 4 stacks of the buff from altar for 40 iron and buy 2 raiders for 100 iron |
| 11:08.53 | Simca_ | and then you're basically a dps monster |
| 11:09.05 | s_e | like you'd get afked out if you were still in the tunnel after 5? |
| 11:09.10 | s_e | or am I misremembering |
| 11:09.45 | nevcairiel | moving out of the tunnel seems like a bare minimum even an afker might manage =p |
| 11:09.53 | s_e | you'd think right? |
| 11:09.59 | nevcairiel | just go hide in a mine pretending to take it |
| 11:10.25 | s_e | yeah I don't think it'd do all that much, I'm probably wrong |
| 11:10.41 | s_e | maybe i'm just thinking of when they added afk dropping in general |
| 11:11.45 | s_e | wait you can use your whistle? |
| 11:11.48 | s_e | Simca_, ? |
| 11:11.59 | nevcairiel | its a special w histle |
| 11:12.09 | s_e | I've only been in 3 times, I'm still fairly clueless in there |
| 11:12.22 | s_e | need to learn to calm down and read |
| 11:12.29 | Simca_ | there's a quest at high perch after it's captured that you can pick up and turn in back at base |
| 11:12.35 | Simca_ | when you turn it in, it permanently upgrades your whistle |
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| 11:12.43 | s_e | pretty sure I haven't done that lol |
| 11:12.43 | Simca_ | so that you can return to the base instantly when you use it |
| 11:12.56 | nevcairiel | dont they also give you a port-back i tem anyway |
| 11:12.59 | nevcairiel | or was that beta only |
| 11:13.03 | Simca_ | i think beta only |
| 11:13.10 | nevcairiel | didnt get to do it on live yet |
| 11:13.26 | s_e | ah I didn't see beta for this xpac |
| 11:15.54 | s_e | hmm, suggestions for debug tools for addons? there's a lua environment tracker/interpreter addon somewhere right? is that worth using? |
| 11:17.23 | AcidWeb | Do you believe in debugging power of prayer? |
| 11:17.30 | s_e | sadly not |
| 11:17.39 | s_e | is that what I'm going to have to use? |
| 11:18.11 | AcidWeb | Well then your toolkit will be quite limited. |
| 11:19.07 | s_e | I've got as far as enabling the console, but as far as I can tell it doesn't tell me much about the addon environment |
| 11:19.46 | AcidWeb | /fstack /tinspect |
| 11:19.58 | AcidWeb | there is no real debugger so print() is your new best friend |
| 11:20.19 | s_e | where does print print to? |
| 11:20.26 | nevcairiel | default chat frame |
| 11:20.30 | AcidWeb | ^ |
| 11:20.42 | s_e | I swear I tried that and it spat out some error |
| 11:20.51 | s_e | or didn't show up |
| 11:21.00 | mitch0 | you were doing it wrong |
| 11:21.06 | s_e | tinspect is |
| 11:21.08 | s_e | good |
| 11:21.19 | s_e | I knew about /fstack |
| 11:21.53 | nevcairiel | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:22.04 | s_e | that might well be useful |
| 11:23.29 | s_e | currently my addon that I intended to change fonts with hooks ADDON_LOADED and tells me which addons load when |
| 11:23.41 | s_e | so, i got distracted |
| 11:24.21 | s_e | but I used _G.ChatFrame1:AddMessage() which I guess print() is just a wrapper for |
| 11:24.30 | s_e | ? |
| 11:25.45 | s_e | is there any sort of method push your addon to the top of the load order? or is it entirely up to the game? |
| 11:26.52 | s_e | oh wow etrace is amazing |
| 11:26.52 | nebula | not sure if it helps, but the conventional way is to prefix the name with one or more !s |
| 11:27.16 | Simca_ | it's sort of alphabetical but considers dependencies first. it's not considered reliable except as a means of debugging |
| 11:27.28 | s_e | that sounds very inelegant, but I guess this is a game |
| 11:28.00 | Simca_ | i mean you have to consider how it would interact if you had a dozen addons that all wanted to be first in load order |
| 11:28.07 | s_e | right, |
| 11:29.01 | s_e | you'd think they'd give the user some level of control though |
| 11:29.27 | s_e | like a priority/sortable list |
| 11:29.28 | Simca_ | most addons consider both cases. i.e. on self loading, check if your target addon is loaded. if not, register ADDON_LOADED and watch it for the target addon |
| 11:29.36 | s_e | right |
| 11:29.43 | s_e | i figured that's how it would have to work |
| 11:30.10 | nevcairiel | if you absolutely depend on another addon, just a harddep is usually fine, but sometimes you have optional functions etc |
| 11:31.07 | s_e | yes I have an addon which changes some fonts in my stack right now, I added it as a RequiredDep to the toc, but now I've got to figure out how I push the font changes I want to make |
| 11:33.39 | s_e | basically I need to read up on frameXML I'm guessing (just dropping _G['font_style']:SetFont("path", size)) in the ADDON_LOADED hook for the dependency didn't get me very far |
| 11:34.01 | s_e | I'm guessing I need to register that change with something? |
| 11:34.46 | s_e | or set up a situation where I do a SavedVariable and force a reload? |
| 11:35.14 | s_e | am I barking up the right tree? |
| 12:00.44 | znf | What are you even trying to do? |
| 12:02.46 | s_e | nothing productive, just exploring font replacement. |
| 12:03.44 | s_e | but I am definitely running an addon that replaces all the fonts, so I need to take that into account right? |
| 12:04.08 | s_e | This is mostly just my learning experience, I'm not going to distribute it or anything |
| 12:04.45 | znf | just do a drop-in replacement of the font |
| 12:04.53 | znf | at file level |
| 12:04.55 | znf | no addon required |
| 12:05.32 | s_e | yeah but I'm looking to learn how to do it through the addon system as a learning experience? |
| 12:06.17 | znf | ? ls *.TTF |
| 12:06.17 | znf | ARIALN.ttf FRIENDS.ttf FRIZQT__.TTF MORPHEUS.ttf skurri.ttf |
| 12:06.31 | s_e | for funsies, you know? |
| 12:06.40 | znf | well, suit yourself, I guess, but that's not exactly a nice place to start hacking away at addons :P |
| 12:07.11 | s_e | it's just something I need for accessibility purposes so I figured I could learn something at the same time |
| 12:09.10 | s_e | eh, it's nice enough, if I get it to work it'll be satisfying, and it's super low scope so once I get the idea it's quick and done |
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| 16:35.25 | Semlar | oh good, weapons from the mythic cache can titanforge |
| 16:35.57 | Thunder_Child | And that is a problem why? |
| 16:36.25 | Semlar | weapons can't titanforge |
| 16:37.15 | nevcairiel | its only the controlled bonus the m+ level gives you |
| 16:37.17 | nevcairiel | not a random proc |
| 16:37.53 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.01 | nevcairiel | they want to remove the randomness on some key pieces, not nerf the m+ chest |
| 16:38.48 | Semlar | i heard the box was supposed to potentially contain up to 3 pieces of loot? |
| 16:38.50 | nevcairiel | 380 is baseline for m+10, so 385 is "just" a titanforge |
| 16:38.57 | nevcairiel | just a warforge |
| 16:38.59 | nevcairiel | i mean |
| 16:39.11 | Semlar | i have yet to see someone get more than 1 item out of it |
| 16:39.17 | nevcairiel | its theoretically possible |
| 16:39.21 | nevcairiel | unless they changed it again |
| 16:40.15 | nevcairiel | I'll let you know tomorrow if i get two or more =p |
| 16:40.28 | Semlar | i got bracers |
| 16:40.45 | Semlar | would be nice to get an azerite piece since they apparently can't drop in mythics |
| 16:40.54 | Semlar | and they're now substantially lower than the rest of my gear |
| 16:41.13 | nevcairiel | indeed, no farmable sources of m+ gear beyond ordinary dungeons |
| 16:41.24 | nevcairiel | only weekly limited sources |
| 16:41.55 | nevcairiel | of azerite gear* |
| 16:42.00 | nevcairiel | i shouldnt get distracted while typing |
| 16:42.07 | Semlar | i guess i should have done the raid last week |
| 16:42.26 | Semlar | didn't really feel like pugging it though |
| 16:42.39 | nevcairiel | get a guild |
| 16:43.14 | Semlar | i have a guild, i will never raid on a set schedule again though |
| 16:43.50 | nevcairiel | if you dont like raiding with your guild and dont like pugging, you will never raid again |
| 16:44.03 | Semlar | i'm not dedicating time out of my week to play a video game on a schedule |
| 16:44.48 | Semlar | i might pug it later today |
| 16:47.31 | Funkeh` | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenSSL-1.1.1-Released woo |
| 16:47.42 | Semlar | i assume m+ counts for the emissary quest that requires you to complete 4 mythics |
| 16:47.50 | nevcairiel | it should |
| 16:53.28 | Semlar | if i drop herbalism and pick it back up, what affect does having 1/150 herbalism have if i've relearned the skills from the book |
| 16:53.46 | Semlar | nothing? |
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| 17:36.49 | znf | there's an emissary quest that requires you to complete 4 mythics? |
| 17:37.18 | nevcairiel | he means the weekly event thing |
| 17:37.28 | nevcairiel | its dungeon event this week |
| 17:37.31 | nevcairiel | well next week for eu |
| 17:38.29 | znf | Oh. |
| 17:39.11 | Fisker | a |
| 17:39.32 | Thunder_Child | b |
| 17:39.37 | Simca_ | q |
| 17:42.17 | Fisker | hi Simca_ your thingy is hanging out |
| 17:42.27 | Simca_ | wow |
| 17:42.33 | Thunder_Child | Maybe you should stop looking. |
| 17:49.37 | Fisker | I think Amazon should carry the nintendo pokemon lets go bundle |
| 18:24.42 | Mr_Rabies | ooh the weekly events started up now? |
| 19:03.16 | Chipzz | having the castsequence issue again, but this time I checked if the spells were being cast; they actually are, but the icon doesn't update |
| 19:09.01 | znf | castsequence is so useless is should just be removed at this point |
| 19:10.58 | s_e | how does castsequence square with the botting rules? Always thought it was a bit borderline for making combat macros so I've never used it. |
| 19:12.27 | Chipzz | s_e: castsequence is way too limited to bot with |
| 19:12.46 | s_e | well, I mean automation in general |
| 19:13.07 | s_e | like I imagine they'd frown on say.. a mage putting their entire opener in one? |
| 19:13.23 | Chipzz | you really can not put a rotation in it |
| 19:13.33 | Chipzz | the reset option is way too limited |
| 19:13.36 | s_e | how is it limited? |
| 19:14.18 | Chipzz | different skills have different CDs, but you can only specify one reset duration |
| 19:15.00 | s_e | how many actions can it take? |
| 19:15.18 | Chipzz | also the reset duration doesn't really do what you want to do anyway, the reset time gets reset each time you use a skill, you usually want a reset time starting from the 1st skill |
| 19:16.09 | Chipzz | http://cogwheel.info/Macro%20Guide.html |
| 19:16.14 | s_e | I just mean you could basically condense your rot into 2 buttons rather than 5, do they consider that acceptable? |
| 19:16.26 | s_e | (as an example) |
| 19:16.37 | Chipzz | not really |
| 19:16.53 | Chipzz | because a lot of rotations involve using a skill on procs |
| 19:17.30 | Chipzz | what if that skill is in the middle of your castsequence? |
| 19:17.51 | s_e | cancel it and cast the skill? |
| 19:17.55 | Chipzz | but really, just try it. you'll start running into limitations pretty soon |
| 19:17.59 | s_e | yeah |
| 19:18.44 | Chipzz | the castsequence I posted yesterday is one that always makes sense, but that doesn't hold for the entire rotation |
| 19:19.32 | s_e | ./castsequence reset=10 Starsurge, Lunar Strike, Solar Wrath? |
| 19:19.39 | Chipzz | yes |
| 19:20.55 | Chipzz | Starsurge gives q stack of Lunar Strike and Solar Wrath buff each, so the next 2 spells you want to cast are those |
| 19:21.25 | s_e | i mean, looping the rotation is not really what i'm bothered by, it's condensing interactions with the game that's all |
| 19:21.49 | Chipzz | again, TRY it is the best I can say |
| 19:21.59 | Chipzz | 21:17 < Chipzz> what if that skill is in the middle of your castsequence? |
| 19:22.14 | s_e | so you can't cancel out of one? |
| 19:22.22 | Chipzz | you'll notice soon enough that resetting the castsequence is not gonna be easy |
| 19:22.48 | Chipzz | you can make it reset on a modifier |
| 19:23.23 | s_e | does it work on GCD locked abilities btw? |
| 19:23.36 | Chipzz | and what if the skill you need to cast is the 2nd skill in your castsequence? |
| 19:23.55 | Chipzz | you reset the castsequence, but the wrong skill is up first |
| 19:24.07 | s_e | you have individual binds too |
| 19:24.21 | Chipzz | but that's not what you said |
| 19:24.39 | Chipzz | you said you wanted to reduce the whole rotation into a couple of castsequences |
| 19:25.00 | Chipzz | and you'll run out of keybindings pretty soon |
| 19:25.25 | s_e | well if it goes as planned you let it fly, if you get a proc, you go manual, then when you get back to the start you let the macro go again |
| 19:25.27 | Chipzz | especially considering that you have to use modifiers to reset castsequences too |
| 19:25.39 | Chipzz | anyway, try it |
| 19:25.54 | s_e | i mean it's not that huge, just seems borderline that's all |
| 19:26.08 | s_e | not looking for a big whoop fight about it :) |
| 19:26.14 | Chipzz | the "putting a rotation into 1 castsequence" memes you've seen are larely exagerated |
| 19:26.22 | s_e | I haven't seen those memes |
| 19:26.25 | Chipzz | *largely |
| 19:27.38 | s_e | I've not been around since 7.2, and before the Legion prepatch I hadn't been around since before Ulduar was released |
| 19:27.57 | s_e | so I'm not really here to meme it up about castsequences, I was just curious |
| 19:28.56 | Chipzz | there are some things you can put in a castsequence with good results |
| 19:29.09 | Chipzz | except that those things are openers mostly :p |
| 19:29.15 | Chipzz | wihch you use once per pull :p |
| 19:29.22 | s_e | still, stops you fucking it up |
| 19:29.29 | s_e | which is something I do all the time |
| 19:29.50 | s_e | because my pattern memory is apparently trash and I can't be arsed to do intensive practice |
| 19:30.11 | s_e | slowpoke reactions too |
| 19:30.51 | s_e | i guess castsequences are aimed squarely at people like me who cannot git gud |
| 19:32.02 | s_e | maybe I'll put my fury opener in one |
| 19:42.43 | s_e | oh I didn't even know you had to keep pressing it to continue the sequence lol |
| 19:42.51 | s_e | that makes everything irrelevant |
| 19:42.57 | s_e | although still.. |
| 19:46.01 | Chipzz | no extremely strongly doubt that "git gud" players even know that macros exist in the first place, let alone castsequences, so no, I disaggree |
| 19:46.15 | Chipzz | *I |
| 19:47.24 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> Slouken's AMA: http://bit.ly/2MlScF5 || 8.0.x ToC: 80000 || http://pastebin.com || Battletags: http://bit.ly/2MAEFxk || This channel is logged, via purl || Currently mode +r due to spam until a better solution is found. |
| 19:53.42 | s_e | neat |
| 19:53.52 | s_e | 9pm tomorrow for me |
| 19:54.26 | s_e | eh some of the more elitist "git gud" lot can be pretty up on their macros and sims and stuff |
| 19:54.59 | *** join/#wowuidev niluser (~niluser@163.101.198.146.dyn.plus.net) |
| 19:55.56 | s_e | this guy made my 2 favourite dungeons in da game |
| 19:56.54 | s_e | yo I didn't know the SDL guy developed the addon system |
| 19:56.59 | s_e | small world |
| 19:57.12 | Cairenn | yup |
| 19:57.42 | s_e | does he still do freelance/consult for blizz then? or is this just a social call |
| 19:57.49 | *** join/#wowuidev stolenlegacy (~stolenleg@unaffiliated/stolenlegacy) |
| 19:57.55 | Alram | just social |
| 19:57.59 | Alram | he's at valve now |
| 19:58.19 | Alram | john and him still talk though so thats why |
| 19:58.24 | Alram | blizz isnt involved |
| 20:03.50 | s_e | curious about this WoW Diary thingy. I enjoyed Masters of Doom, reading about game dev history is kind of fascinating. |
| 20:05.49 | s_e | hey this guy designed AQ, I hate him again now |
| 20:06.24 | Mr_Rabies | that reminds me, thedanw is no longer on the wow team, right? is there a new contact at blizzard or did he tell everyone to stay the heck out of irc for their own sanity lol |
| 20:06.57 | Alram | not yet |
| 20:06.58 | s_e | someone will maybe turn up next time they mess with the API |
| 20:07.07 | Alram | he said he'll ask but i doubt many are brave enough |
| 20:19.43 | Mr_Rabies | how do you view addon communications again? |
| 20:20.01 | Mr_Rabies | some addon is trying to talk to other players internally or something, and it's erroring out a lot |
| 20:20.31 | Mr_Rabies | "No player named X is currently playing" |
| 20:26.18 | Crosshash | There are some new people in here to replace thedanw |
| 20:27.15 | s_e | :eyes: |
| 20:28.05 | Mr_Rabies | wonder if slouken is responsible for valve's recent push to run windows games flawlessly in linux |
| 20:28.47 | s_e | that push has been around since HL2, probably just a good fit for him |
| 20:30.13 | Mr_Rabies | man i wish i knew what was going on with the stack sizes in the enchanting crafting window |
| 20:30.25 | Mr_Rabies | apparently coastal surge will make 8079 stacks |
| 20:30.39 | Mr_Rabies | and the navigation ones will make 7 |
| 20:30.50 | Mr_Rabies | (they only make one scroll or enchant one piece of gear as per usual) |
| 20:31.14 | Alram | Crosshash: are you also a ui dev? |
| 20:31.33 | Crosshash | Yes |
| 20:31.40 | Alram | kay, neato |
| 20:31.53 | Alram | i didn't expect any tbh but this is a nice surprise :p |
| 20:32.05 | Thunder_Child | Our sympathies. |
| 20:32.32 | Thunder_Child | Now you guys have two people to blame stuff on, Dan and Guill. |
| 20:34.16 | Crosshash | I used to be in here some years ago but I kind of dropped off |
| 20:36.15 | AcidWeb | US people - C_MythicPlus.GetCurrentAffixes() started to return proper values? |
| 20:36.34 | AcidWeb | or it still bleed legion data? |
| 20:37.59 | Andols | If you send "" as the message in a SendAddonMessage, has that always instantly disconnected you? |
| 20:39.51 | s_e | AcidWeb, what am I looking for |
| 20:40.20 | AcidWeb | there are 3 or 4 return values? |
| 20:40.29 | s_e | 3 |
| 20:40.35 | s_e | 11, 2, 9 |
| 20:41.10 | AcidWeb | So answer is - No. |
| 20:41.19 | s_e | ./run for k, v in pairs(C_MythicPlus.GetCurrentAffixes()) do print(k .. "-" .. v) end -- gives |
| 20:41.20 | s_e | 3-9 |
| 20:41.20 | s_e | 21:39:30 g| Merecarth: I'm happy the game has changed since vanilla, i honestly just dont have the time to devote to a va |
| 20:41.29 | s_e | er wrong copy paste |
| 20:41.43 | s_e | 1-11 2-2 3-9 |
| 20:45.52 | s_e | I thought it only went up to 10? |
| 20:46.48 | AcidWeb | nope |
| 20:46.55 | s_e | 12 now? just reading about it |
| 20:47.13 | AcidWeb | 16 |
| 20:47.17 | AcidWeb | but not all are used |
| 20:47.48 | s_e | is there an up to date list of the affixIDs somewhere? |
| 20:48.41 | AcidWeb | https://www.wowhead.com/affixes |
| 20:49.12 | s_e | those are in order? |
| 20:49.42 | s_e | cause if so, GetCurrentAffixes() is a liar |
| 20:50.07 | AcidWeb | nope and i know |
| 20:50.20 | AcidWeb | considering they are not in order and one is missing |
| 20:50.31 | Mr_Rabies | man hopefully they can do something to incentivize war mode for the less populated faction in war mode |
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| 21:13.03 | Primer | sigh...I rsync'd my WTF to another machine, ran wow, now my bars have no buttons. Did this now somehow get pushed to a server, and now my other machine will no longer have buttons? |
| 21:13.47 | Primer | I had to nuke my config.wtf, so the variables that tell wow not to upload settings (presuming that's still a thing) would have gotten nuked |
| 21:14.07 | Primer | I'd hate to find all my keybinds and bars reset when I get home |
| 21:17.45 | Mr_Rabies | i'd back up the wtf folder at home before doing anything online |
| 21:23.39 | Primer | turns out I wasn't syncing all of WTF |
| 21:23.50 | Primer | all is well |
| 22:30.10 | Mr_Rabies | okay i'm definitely noticing items rolling up a lot more now, and my only big change is going to war mode |
| 22:30.20 | Mr_Rabies | wonder if that's an undocumented perk or i'm getting lucky |
| 22:33.21 | *** join/#wowuidev zenzelezz (~zenzelezz@cm-84.212.17.83.getinternet.no) |
| 22:34.20 | Constie | I don't think it does anything that it doesn't explicitly tell you it does. |
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| 23:13.03 | Mr_Rabies | i wouldn't think so either, maybe there's some kind of "it's been x days since a rollup so you get one now" system or something |
| 23:13.08 | Mr_Rabies | or just sheer luck |
| 23:17.52 | Gnarfoz | [22:26:30] <Crosshash> There are some new people in here to replace thedanw <-- welcome! \o/ |
| 23:19.31 | Thunder_Child | Well that's interesting. I updated my video driver while the battle.net app was open and now it's invisible. I can click things on it, but I can not see it. |
| 23:19.47 | Gnarfoz | yes, it doesn't like it |
| 23:19.58 | Gnarfoz | (WoW doesn't care, it keeps running. :P) |
| 23:20.31 | Gnarfoz | it used to straight up crash, then it was fixed for a while, then it crashed again, now it turns invisible. :D |
| 23:21.45 | Thunder_Child | I didn't have wow open, I was tired of it bitching at me for having an out of date driver. |
| 23:22.25 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure they handle driver updates at runtime, for the nagging thing ^^ |
| 23:26.08 | Gnarfoz | I've got an addon doing the spellflash animation at full screen size >_> I don't know which! arrgh :D |
| 23:26.13 | Thunder_Child | I'm just really lazy about updating since I have 4 monitors and I always have to move stuff back to where it belongs. |
| 23:30.02 | Mr_Rabies | <Thunder_Child> Well that's interesting. I updated my video driver while the battle.net app was open and now it's invisible. I can click things on it, but I can not see it. |
| 23:30.14 | Mr_Rabies | my driver would crash a lot in wow on my old video card, and the app would do the same thing then |
| 23:30.17 | Mr_Rabies | it really, really doesn't like that |
| 23:36.59 | jaxdahl | AcidWeb, Bursting, Skittish, Tyrannical in that order on the mythic tab - seems weird. it's not showing the infested one |
| 23:37.11 | jaxdahl | for ghuun |
| 23:40.42 | Mr_Rabies | my old video card really did not like wow for some reason |
| 23:41.01 | Thunder_Child | Because it was old? |
| 23:41.23 | Mr_Rabies | no, because there was definitely some kind of bug with the drivers |
| 23:41.43 | Mr_Rabies | the portals in EN would crash the drivers every time |
| 23:42.42 | Mr_Rabies | certain particle effects would crash it and the RMAed one that also ended up dying in wow |
| 23:43.05 | Mr_Rabies | if i used 2-3 year old drivers the crashes would be a lot less common but the particle one remained |
| 23:43.22 | Mr_Rabies | my last memory on my RMAed card was the mage tower challenge on my DH |
| 23:44.09 | Mr_Rabies | he flashed a particle effect that took over the screen and then BOOM |
| 23:44.14 | Mr_Rabies | card was no more |
| 23:46.21 | Thunder_Child | Huh, wow blew up your card. I am impressed. |
| 23:48.55 | Mr_Rabies | two cards |
| 23:49.08 | Mr_Rabies | once in stormheim during a thunderstorm |
| 23:49.18 | Mr_Rabies | replacement one in mage tower challenge |
| 23:49.44 | Mr_Rabies | different psus between the two cards blowing up since i was worried that was a factor |
| 23:53.36 | Mr_Rabies | the old psu did end up having a few blown capacitors in it |
