| 00:19.01 | Simca | spells have the effects listed for taunt increase even if the tooltips don't |
| 00:20.42 | znf | hmm, the war supply crate drops 335 gear |
| 00:20.46 | znf | wonder if that scales with your rating |
| 00:21.02 | *** join/#wowuidev Mikuhl (44cdfd6b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.205.253.107) |
| 00:21.58 | Simca | but yeah i've done a shitton of m+ in legion as tank, i thought it might be random threat drops at first |
| 00:22.18 | Simca | but it's really just your own threat is so shit that any decent DPS not attacking the same target as you will strip your mobs |
| 00:22.49 | Simca | part of that is my problem, i've always geared towards total defense as a tank |
| 00:23.09 | Simca | so suddenly having to care about my damage potential on a single's week affix is weird |
| 00:23.44 | znf | wish that Darkmoon buff would be 2 hours :( |
| 00:23.49 | znf | and persist trough death... |
| 00:24.02 | Simca | no joke znf, at least the first part |
| 00:24.10 | Simca | i'm a very slow WQer and an easily distracted person |
| 00:24.15 | Mikuhl | Is there like a wowuidev community channel in game? Think that would be cool |
| 00:24.38 | znf | I've visited Thunder Bluff so often over this past week that I'm done for this whole expansion |
| 00:25.06 | Simca | on average i need to go 4 times a day to finish a WQ board clear |
| 00:25.17 | Simca | sometimes more depending on how easily distracted i am that today |
| 00:25.22 | Simca | that day* |
| 00:25.22 | znf | I usually to 3 times |
| 00:25.33 | kd3 | I can usually do it in 3 |
| 00:26.01 | znf | but if I run into a stabby-stabby, that's one more trip |
| 00:26.02 | kd3 | but that's full focus, route-planned, whistle in use on cooldown |
| 00:26.25 | Simca | Mikuhl: there isn't afaik. somebody tried, but this community is too evenly split between US and EU for it to realistically work. communities are region-locked on b.net |
| 00:26.30 | znf | it's especially annoying if I go to Kul Tiras to do them :P |
| 00:26.54 | znf | because I can't just hearth and then go TB and then darkmoon etc. |
| 00:27.22 | kd3 | glad I'm a mage. hearthed to an out-of-the way spot on zandalar, port to boralus/sw, go go go |
| 00:27.41 | znf | I have to take the FP, then boat, then again fp to top of the pyramid, portal to tb, fly to darkmoon, glide, get buff, hearthstone back, take fp to boat, take boat to where I need to go :D |
| 00:28.06 | Mikuhl | Aw man, anyway: @TheDanW I asked a few days ago about GetItemInfo returning incorrect expansion, (and then got called into work right after so I couldnt see if you said anything) is there any information about this inconsistency? |
| 00:29.29 | znf | oh great, now I got into a WQ group that is in full war mode |
| 00:29.42 | znf | (as in, they're actually pvping |
| 00:29.45 | *** join/#wowuidev mitch0 (~mitch@188-143-124-98.pool.digikabel.hu) |
| 00:32.05 | TheDanW | Mikuhl: it looks like things are working correctly, the expansion isn't necessarily the expansion it was added, it's up to design to choose the expansion when they create the item |
| 00:34.07 | znf | short version: the designers are dicks sometimes |
| 00:34.16 | Mikuhl | Aw, so theres no way for you guys to send a guess instead of just returning Classic when the item designer didnt select anything? |
| 00:35.58 | Gnarfoz | someone said that's only set correctly on a certain class of items |
| 00:36.03 | Gnarfoz | I forget who or which class :P |
| 00:37.22 | Gnarfoz | mikuhl |
| 00:37.45 | Gnarfoz | whoops, that was supposed to go into the search box :P |
| 00:39.22 | Gnarfoz | it was Simca who suggested recipes and gear might have it set |
| 00:40.43 | Simca | yeah, my guess is just that it's only set when designers need it to be set or want it to be set and is 0 everywhere else |
| 00:41.01 | Simca | and where they usually care happens to be gear and recipes, both of which have related DBs that are interested in those values |
| 00:41.06 | Mikuhl | Sucks cause it could really be handy. |
| 00:41.16 | Gnarfoz | that's true for many things |
| 00:41.19 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:42.37 | Mikuhl | *proceeds to embed an entire table of wowheads database in my addon* |
| 00:42.48 | Mikuhl | :'( |
| 00:43.12 | Gnarfoz | you'd hardly be the first |
| 00:43.44 | Gnarfoz | in fact, a certain someone used to embed the entirety of wowhead's comments on quests :D |
| 00:44.02 | Gnarfoz | I forgot what the name of that addon was :( |
| 00:45.06 | kd3 | lightheaded |
| 00:45.55 | znf | Maison the Portable |
| 00:45.57 | znf | I love that name |
| 00:46.08 | Gnarfoz | kd3: ah, of course |
| 00:46.12 | znf | also Pincushion :D |
| 00:46.17 | Simca | i didn't get that name, znf |
| 00:46.23 | Gnarfoz | Maison = home/house |
| 00:46.28 | Gnarfoz | portable, well duh |
| 00:46.29 | TheDanW | Mikuhl: there's no safe way to guess, your guess is as good as ours |
| 00:46.30 | Simca | oh ok |
| 00:46.36 | Gnarfoz | and slugs carry their homes with them |
| 00:46.42 | Simca | yeah makes sense now |
| 00:47.07 | Gnarfoz | it's a great name |
| 00:47.27 | znf | to be fair, it took me a bit to read pin cushion properly :P |
| 00:49.00 | znf | the alliance zones really have awesome names for rare NPCs |
| 00:49.31 | kd3 | Totes the goat |
| 00:49.36 | znf | the whole Lichen King is great |
| 00:49.37 | znf | that too heh |
| 00:50.09 | kd3 | He wrote, and I quote, "Totes the Goat croaks and drops the Goat's Tote. Helpfully floats in moats if falls off your boats." |
| 00:52.03 | znf | there must always be a lichen king |
| 01:07.13 | znf | 17 minutes left on the buff |
| 01:07.14 | znf | neat |
| 01:09.09 | Gnarfoz | annoying that the top hat buff keeps running while you're logged out, while the carousel one doesn't |
| 01:15.37 | znf | Imagine that... you craft a 370 piece of gear |
| 01:15.41 | znf | and you get versatility on it |
| 01:17.50 | znf | and the 385 piece of gear doesn't even phase me that it requires 250 sanguicell |
| 01:18.01 | znf | I'm just cringing at the 60 expulsom it needs :-| |
| 01:19.06 | nebula | stormsong has a Snape rare with the three main chars dead around him |
| 01:19.23 | Gnarfoz | yeah that one is nice as well :D |
| 01:25.28 | znf | missed that |
| 01:30.07 | *** join/#wowuidev bluspacecow (~bluspacec@2404:4402:1349:7e00:cb6:979e:9310:c103) |
| 01:30.07 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluspacecow] by ChanServ |
| 01:38.07 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3|hate`net (~Kaydeethr@unaffiliated/kd3) |
| 01:43.57 | Mr_Rabies | oh wow the latest version of weakauras was uploaded....tomorrow |
| 01:44.08 | Mr_Rabies | according to twurse client |
| 01:45.58 | Chipzz | znf: apparently you recover all expulsion and sanguicell from crafted gear, so it may not be as bad as it sounds |
| 01:46.51 | znf | no expolsum |
| 01:47.00 | Chipzz | znf: also, HC bosses have 10 sanguicell garanteed drop, that's 80/clear |
| 01:47.11 | Chipzz | and you can also do normal and LFR for additional ons |
| 01:48.13 | znf | I know |
| 01:48.24 | znf | you only get hydrocores back |
| 01:48.27 | znf | and sanguicell, afaik |
| 01:49.00 | Chipzz | ah yes, hydrocores instead of expulsion |
| 01:57.34 | znf | Expulsom is the hard part |
| 01:57.37 | znf | not the Sanguicell :-/ |
| 02:06.29 | znf | bah, again missed key by ~30 seconds :( |
| 02:10.46 | Mr_Rabies | what is the deal with flying npcs falling out of the sky when i get in render distance |
| 02:11.11 | Mr_Rabies | it happened with the dock rats in gorgrond that plummet into the water where they deleted the docks in wod beta |
| 02:20.47 | znf | wtb the ability to queue up for more groups in premade |
| 02:37.49 | znf | story of a shadow priests' life https://i.imgur.com/2ocsXKq.png |
| 02:38.26 | Simca | ugh |
| 02:38.38 | Simca | every time i reload and try to invite this member to a community |
| 02:38.41 | Simca | it blames a new addon |
| 02:42.24 | kd3|hate`net | guh, could the azerite WQ at the south end of stormsong not spawn every day? such a pain to get up there |
| 02:52.26 | Simca | i eventually figured out it was postal |
| 03:22.30 | znf | indeed, kd3|hate`net |
| 04:11.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Shadnix_ (dagger@p4FEFCB66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:18.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Gnarfoz (smallbrain@WoWUIDev/WowAce/Gnarfoz) |
| 05:10.43 | *** join/#wowuidev Andols2 (~yaaic@m83-185-243-54.cust.tele2.se) |
| 06:01.02 | *** join/#wowuidev Andols (~yaaic@193.10.195.38) |
| 06:23.27 | AcidWeb | I'm starting to think that Blizzard stopped testing code at all and just use production environment for that. |
| 06:24.05 | AcidWeb | PVP hotfix should decrease mana regeneration for healers by 30%. |
| 06:24.19 | AcidWeb | But it sets it to -30% |
| 06:24.26 | AcidWeb | And you cant cast anything. |
| 07:00.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Andols2 (~yaaic@193.10.195.38) |
| 07:05.14 | *** join/#wowuidev Andols (~yaaic@193.10.195.38) |
| 07:33.31 | *** join/#wowuidev VIad (~Vlad@cm-84.213.146.58.getinternet.no) |
| 08:23.02 | sb | znf: i blame you |
| 08:23.16 | LexSfX | AcidWeb: is that real? wow |
| 08:57.27 | *** join/#wowuidev theodrim (~theodrim@178.150.110.248) |
| 09:02.27 | *** join/#wowuidev DiscordB (~DiscordB@schwingendesphoenix.org) |
| 09:05.16 | *** join/#wowuidev Andols (~yaaic@193.10.195.38) |
| 09:49.29 | nevcairiel | pfew first zone faction on exalted, less WQs to do every day now |
| 09:52.23 | Kalroth | what a grind |
| 09:58.29 | *** join/#wowuidev stolenlegacy (~stolenleg@unaffiliated/stolenlegacy) |
| 10:04.14 | *** join/#wowuidev Breen (~Breen@80.175.117.105) |
| 10:06.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Andols2 (~yaaic@m83-185-243-54.cust.tele2.se) |
| 10:15.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Semlar (~semlar@072-189-128-149.res.spectrum.com) |
| 10:39.02 | *** join/#wowuidev Sintacks (~Syntax@75-109-22-37.swbycmtk01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) |
| 10:43.31 | *** join/#wowuidev phyber_ (~phyber@unaffiliated/phyber) |
| 11:20.11 | znf | Demolishers and Siege Tanks have been tuned to do less damage, with longer cooldowns on several of their abilities. |
| 11:20.18 | znf | Can't have any fucking fun |
| 11:23.35 | sb | fix shadow znf |
| 11:24.04 | znf | Get gear |
| 11:24.09 | znf | Die if you get in pvp |
| 11:24.13 | znf | Simple stuff |
| 11:26.17 | sb | so its just bad with low gear? |
| 11:46.19 | znf | sb: yup |
| 11:46.32 | znf | Until you reach 20% haste it's horrible |
| 12:09.11 | znf | so I spent around 40k yesterday on flasks and potions :( |
| 12:16.27 | znf | So, has anyone done the math behind Normal and Heroic expeditions? Does the time/reward ratio justify doing Heroics instead of Normals? |
| 12:16.45 | Mr_Rabies | probably depends on who you wind up with or if you pregroup |
| 12:17.05 | Mr_Rabies | but you only have to do 6 heroic expeditions to cap out |
| 12:17.15 | znf | isn't it 5? |
| 12:17.51 | Mr_Rabies | oh yeah it is derp |
| 12:18.17 | Mr_Rabies | 40/9 = 4.444 |
| 12:18.43 | Mr_Rabies | consider most people running normals will probably be really poorly geared and may not know what to do, as well |
| 12:18.54 | Mr_Rabies | i haven't done a mythic one yet, i wonder how those factor in |
| 12:19.11 | znf | those are apparently not worth it |
| 12:19.19 | znf | yeah, that's my concern to with normals, undergeared people |
| 12:19.50 | znf | I'm gonna do a "benchmark" and compare the time, regardless of the people I get grouped up with |
| 12:20.17 | znf | ah boo, can't queue for normal and hc at the same time |
| 12:22.38 | *** join/#wowuidev harl (harl@unaffiliated/harl) |
| 12:23.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Shooter (~pi@80.49.165.163.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl) |
| 12:25.57 | Shooter | Hmm, is there any way to get gem stats from gem itemlink, other than tooltip scanning? GetItemStats gives empty result. |
| 12:28.35 | znf | 7 minutes for normal |
| 12:38.06 | znf | 8 minutes for HC |
| 12:38.06 | znf | meh |
| 12:38.18 | znf | (same map) |
| 13:17.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Thaodan (~Thaodan@v22017125432358271.powersrv.de) |
| 13:50.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Thaodan (~Thaodan@v22017125432358271.powersrv.de) |
| 14:26.49 | Semlar | can you report someone for griefing if they're standing behind an instance portal and shooting people at the meeting stone so they can't summon anyone and can't be attacked |
| 14:30.14 | foxlit | can you not grip them out or shoot them back? |
| 14:30.23 | Semlar | they just walk back into it |
| 14:30.52 | Semlar | they either hit the instance limit or made a raid and filled the instance so they wouldn't get ported into it |
| 14:31.08 | Semlar | so they could just walk behind it and shoot people |
| 14:31.37 | Semlar | and it was a disc priest and a rogue so good luck killing them |
| 14:32.36 | Semlar | they were able to just run farther back into the tunnel if they needed to |
| 14:33.34 | foxlit | still sounds like grip+stun+kill is an option |
| 14:34.30 | foxlit | you can of course report anyone for anything, but like 75% of the reply would probably be "a pvp solution exists, sort it out on your own" |
| 14:34.49 | Semlar | uh i don't know if you've ever fought a disc priest but it's not like we had a group of people to instantly kill them before they could walk back behind the portal |
| 14:35.02 | Semlar | mostly because we couldn't use the meeting stone |
| 14:35.28 | Semlar | and how does a pvp solution exist to them exploiting |
| 14:37.00 | Semlar | it's not like you're going to get a group together to come kill these guys who are delaying the start of your instance |
| 14:39.36 | foxlit | but that's what you should do |
| 14:40.12 | foxlit | I mean, you'd have most of the same problem with just three rogues straight-up camping the stone |
| 14:40.59 | Semlar | sure, but the fact that they're virtually unattackable because of a system you can't control makes it a different situation |
| 14:41.10 | znf | get a priest, mc him |
| 14:45.04 | znf | also, you're a hunter, can't you send your pet to fuck him up? |
| 14:45.09 | Semlar | i am a demon hunter |
| 14:45.19 | Semlar | also i think they should honestly just move the meeting stones inside the instances |
| 14:45.49 | Semlar | mostly because of this war mode phasing that makes it so you can't use them if the people who go there are in different modes |
| 14:47.19 | Semlar | alternatively i'm sure there are a number of better solutions |
| 14:48.52 | Semlar | you shouldn't really ever be out of phase with people in your own group, but i don't know what the best way to address that is |
| 14:50.53 | znf | it promotes world pvp, they won't |
| 14:50.54 | znf | :D |
| 15:02.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Shooter (~pi@80.49.151.120.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl) |
| 15:12.43 | znf | judging by the rate of the arathi war effort contributions, Horde won't have it up on Sunday |
| 15:23.31 | znf | I think they went overboard with the amount of mats required for donation |
| 15:23.57 | znf | A bit of napkin math tells me to buy all the stuff required for all the turn-ins is a bit over 40k gold on my realm |
| 15:37.29 | *** join/#wowuidev stolenlegacy (~stolenleg@unaffiliated/stolenlegacy) |
| 16:01.06 | znf | hey Stanzilla sb https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/9dtevq/the_priest_guide_to_killing_your_raid_group_in/ |
| 16:12.41 | znf | - Grip players through oblivion spheres. If you see your victim getting knocked out, move to the opposite side and ping pong them back with Holy Nova. |
| 16:12.44 | znf | This is particularly evil |
| 16:15.15 | *** join/#wowuidev Semlar (~semlar@072-189-128-149.res.spectrum.com) |
| 16:51.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Funkeh` (~Funkeh`@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 17:05.46 | Semlar | can addons not call C_LFGList.ApplyToGroup any more? |
| 17:06.11 | Semlar | is this part of the war on automated group forming |
| 17:08.59 | Semlar | one of my personal addons made it so when i double-clicked on a group in the list it signed up for it without having to click the group, click the sign up button, and click the sign up button again on the role check dialog |
| 17:09.36 | Semlar | i hope this doesn't mean i can't do that any more |
| 17:49.25 | znf | oh, hey, I can stream WoW with Parsec to my laptop |
| 18:14.59 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~brykrys@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 19:01.40 | *** join/#wowuidev Andols (~yaaic@c-c4a070d5.74-17-64736c11.bbcust.telenor.se) |
| 19:22.43 | *** join/#wowuidev Andols (~yaaic@m83-185-243-54.cust.tele2.se) |
| 20:14.56 | *** join/#wowuidev Ammako (~Ammako@gateway/tor-sasl/ammako) |
| 20:24.32 | znf | Who decided on that stupid limit, god damn it https://i.imgur.com/ugqNQ0r.png :( |
| 20:41.43 | *** join/#wowuidev Semlar_ (~semlar@072-189-128-149.res.spectrum.com) |
| 21:08.34 | *** join/#wowuidev Seerah (~umsin@2601:3c2:80:1380:64f9:56d6:4219:6d7f) |
| 21:08.34 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 21:27.38 | jaxdahl | how do i get the current world map fullscreen/windowed setting? |
| 22:38.48 | p3lim | any of you on alliance that can get me accurate coordinates for where you land in each of the 3 footholds on the horde continent? |
| 22:39.12 | p3lim | relative to each zone that is |
| 22:39.39 | nevcairiel | so you can put traps there? never! |
| 22:44.27 | p3lim | -.- |
| 22:49.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Andols2 (~yaaic@78-70-44-4-no170.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 23:09.43 | jaxdahl | p3lim, for the initial quest, or the actual establishment that you pop up in after teleporting later |
| 23:10.09 | p3lim | the location you get put at when you finish the loading screen after talking to the captain on the ship |
| 23:10.23 | p3lim | I've got Vol'dun, missing Nazmir and Zuldazar |
| 23:10.52 | jaxdahl | let me see if i have zuldazar on my alliance char |
| 23:12.55 | jaxdahl | p3lim, 2266.8000488281,-2618.4001464844,1642 |
| 23:13.10 | p3lim | zone relative coordinates please :p |
| 23:14.06 | jaxdahl | 0.40682646279327,0.70857906789033, 862 |
| 23:14.14 | p3lim | many thanks |
| 23:14.49 | jaxdahl | i haven't opened up nazmir yet. need to hit 118 i think |
| 23:15.56 | jaxdahl | multiply by 100 to the coords players typically use, obviously |
| 23:46.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Seerah (~umsin@2601:3c2:80:1380:64f9:56d6:4219:6d7f) |
| 23:46.09 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
