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| 00:19.24 | *** topic/#wowuidev is BfA Author Keys! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56267 || 7.3.x ToC: 70300 || http://pastebin.com || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl |
| 00:38.41 | Kesava | yis |
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| 01:25.32 | Thunder_Child | Kesava: Clearing browser cache seems to fix it. |
| 01:33.02 | Kesava | indeed |
| 01:33.03 | Kesava | how odd |
| 01:34.59 | Thunder_Child | Not if it is an electron app or something similar. |
| 01:35.17 | Stanzilla | CEF |
| 01:35.20 | Kesava | grooooss |
| 01:41.35 | Stanzilla | get used to it |
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| 02:40.07 | Ssateneth | Whoever decided to add AuraUtil.FindAuraByName for 8.0, I love you |
| 02:50.13 | nimhfree | I cannot seem to do: â/run WorldQuestDataProviderMixin:RemoveAllData()â Does anyone know why? |
| 02:54.46 | Torhal | I thought the mixins were just prototypical, and what they were applied to is what you should be manipulating. |
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| 03:05.16 | Ammako | group finder micro button behavior seems a little wonky |
| 03:09.11 | Simca_ | my raid had loads of fun on m guldan tonight. we were down several members, but we assumed it'd be fine since the nerfs. nope. fight scaling is broken as hell still. |
| 03:09.55 | Simca_ | Soul Siphon's absorb is about 110% of max HP now. in 7.3.5, it was less than 4% of max HP |
| 03:10.08 | Simca_ | roughly a 30x increase in healing requirement for that ability |
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| 03:16.53 | nimhfree | torhal: with my own mixin I can call RemoveAllData() on it and it does the right thing. However, when I call one of the Blizzard ones it typicall fails by not knowing what self is inside. I would not have expected this, so I am missing something. |
| 03:20.33 | foxlit | nimhfree: Are you really calling the method on the mixin table rather than on some frame/object created from that mixin? |
| 03:26.21 | Torhal | My understanding is that the Blizzard mixins are basically just metatables - you need to apply them to something and then call their methods on _that_. |
| 03:26.47 | Torhal | Well, not metatables per se, but they don't do anything on their own. |
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| 03:35.40 | Ammako | Minor thing, but it looks like they forgot to call UpdateMicroButtons() on world map OnShow/OnHide, so the button's state isn't properly updated and can get stuck at times |
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| 03:59.16 | Ammako | https://i.imgur.com/kfkhxRM.png That's horrifying. There's my problem. |
| 04:08.55 | jaxdahl | i've forgotten how to get/print the raw itemstring from a link in chat |
| 04:12.28 | jaxdahl | got it, /dump ("<link here>"):gsub('\124','\124\124') |
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| 04:33.27 | jaxdahl | https://i.imgur.com/8A5JNd5.png hmm got this while messing around with APIs |
| 04:40.38 | Ammako | was that with frame stack open |
| 04:44.04 | jaxdahl | no |
| 04:44.20 | jaxdahl | was using C_Club.RedeemTicket("foo") |
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| 04:46.45 | jaxdahl2 | > with valid and invalid tickets <-- did that message get through? |
| 04:48.07 | jaxdahl2 | anyway i am wondering why C_Club.RedeemTicket is marked secure or something? |
| 04:48.26 | jaxdahl2 | the [Join: community] links don't work for a friend of mine - some addon they use must be tainting the chat frame |
| 04:56.01 | Ammako | more addons do that than we might think tbh |
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| 05:42.31 | foxlit | and here was I thinking that /dump escapes ui escape sequences by default, making jaxdahl's gsub unnecessary. |
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| 06:44.00 | ccox | ~botsnack |
| 06:44.00 | purl | ccox: :) |
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| 08:50.25 | bluspacecow | new dailies ! |
| 08:50.37 | bluspacecow | new dailies! woo *spins finger sarcasticly in air* |
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| 09:33.10 | Simca_ | lol they hotfixed spell icons for about 15 different azerite traits |
| 09:40.48 | Andols2 | Can they hotfix framexml code? |
| 09:41.21 | Andols2 | I feels like they can hotfix loads of stuff :P |
| 09:41.47 | nevcairiel | they can |
| 09:41.59 | nevcairiel | but they would probably use a client build for that anyway |
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| 09:49.00 | VIad | nevcairiel: I am sad you can't make a minimap clone. wanted to make a middle of screen radar :( |
| 09:49.06 | VIad | minimap shows up and down arrows, it's nice |
| 09:50.15 | nevcairiel | there are addons for that |
| 09:50.23 | nevcairiel | but they disable your original minimap in the process |
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| 09:50.48 | nevcairiel | there can only be one! |
| 09:51.49 | VIad | yeah I know :( |
| 09:51.57 | VIad | I wonder why it got limited like that tbh |
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| 10:15.54 | Andols2 | I see |
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| 11:42.39 | Funkeh`` | TheDanW: Any more news regarding public channels turning off? seeing it more and more. Actually saw someone apologizing in trade "sorry for the double message trade was turned off for some reason" |
| 11:45.09 | nevcairiel | asking wont make it go faster =p |
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| 11:46.16 | Funkeh`` | what does that have to do with anything |
| 11:46.29 | Funkeh`` | do I work for Blizzard to know if they've made progress? Can I read minds? |
| 11:58.37 | Alram | maybe |
| 11:58.41 | Alram | i have yet to see proof either way |
| 12:24.51 | VIad | I miss Semlar :( |
| 12:28.56 | Simca_ | I do appreciate that Blizzard fixed the thing where your whole raid disconnects when you wipe on M Gul'dan |
| 12:29.24 | Simca_ | not sure if it was an intentional fix or not since it seemed to video card related somehow |
| 12:30.32 | Simca_ | 85% of our raid would get disconnected, but the people not being disconnected were consistent from attempt to attempt. one person swapped out their failing video card for a brand new one and suddenly they swapped from the disconnect majority to the minority that stayed connected |
| 12:36.08 | Alram | just another mythic challenge |
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| 13:03.09 | nevcairiel | so 85% of your raiders have failing video cards? |
| 13:04.47 | Alram | just bad rng |
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| 13:10.02 | Mr_Rabies | that's guldan's final attack |
| 13:10.13 | Mr_Rabies | he goes right for the video card |
| 13:10.48 | Mr_Rabies | for the record i've killed two video cards throughout legion, so either something is up with wow or something was up with those video cards |
| 13:11.16 | Mr_Rabies | first one was a gtx 780 i got from a friend, and the next one was the one evga sent me in a warranty exchange for that one |
| 13:12.27 | Mr_Rabies | both of them died while playing wow, first one in storm peaks and second one in the xylem challenge |
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| 13:28.26 | Simca_ | nevcairiel: yeah and the patch physically repaired all of our computers, blizzard is amazing like that |
| 13:29.27 | Simca_ | idk i think it had to do with graphics rendering somehow and video card model was related to it. i don't understand why the result was a disconnect, that's the weird part to me |
| 13:30.09 | Simca_ | that said, the bug where you desync from the server when you fall off gul'dan's platform is still in the game and just as fun as ever |
| 13:30.52 | Simca_ | it's really a kick in the face when you're down, since you're already feeling like a moron for allowing yourself to get punted off (or blown off), then you have to make the raid wait for you to relog and hearth |
| 13:31.02 | Simca_ | so that the server can remember you exist |
| 13:31.58 | Simca_ | it actually happened way more often last night than before. before it seemed pretty rare, like a 10% chance, but at night it was at least 50% |
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| 13:56.15 | nevcairiel | its like an extra reminder to not fall off |
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| 14:56.55 | ls- | Stanzilla: is there a way to create/use a function that modifies widget's appearance in WA? o_O something like callback w/ my widget being its param :D |
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| 15:29.12 | VIad | nevcairiel: converted the frame into a real scrollframe https://i.imgur.com/a64m2ld.mp4 |
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| 15:37.45 | nevcairiel | yeah but such use-cases are perfect for faux scrollframes |
| 15:37.55 | nevcairiel | you dont really need to be able to do smooth scrolling |
| 15:38.04 | VIad | but smooth is niiiice |
| 15:38.20 | VIad | if you ever decide to drag the scrollbar :P |
| 15:39.21 | phyber | has the ability to place frames on top of the world map been removed, or is it just hidden behind some of the new map stuff? |
| 15:39.50 | nevcairiel | you should probably re-do any code that interacts with the world map so its done properly with the new map systems |
| 15:40.09 | nevcairiel | it has APIs and everything now to let you add custom elements without manual hackery |
| 15:40.35 | nevcairiel | made all this stuff a lot easier, imho |
| 15:42.39 | phyber | Some stuff was easy, the simple bit of managing to actually place some text on the world map is kicking my ass. |
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| 15:44.53 | nevcairiel | if you want to cheat, you want to anchor to WorldMapFrame:GetCanvas(), but the better option would be to add a data provider to help you manage it |
| 15:45.40 | nevcairiel | that gives you callbacks for map changes, frame level management, and positioning/scaling |
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| 15:57.43 | phyber | ahh, OK. I found that base class in MapCanvas. That clears some things up. Thanks. |
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| 17:17.49 | Stanzilla | ls-: nope |
| 17:18.14 | ls- | could you add something like that in the future? O_o |
| 17:22.49 | Andols2 | Twitch client seems to be broken |
| 17:23.01 | Funkeh`` | whawt else is new |
| 17:23.24 | Funkeh`` | if something works right you can count on curse devs to break it and leave it in that state for 2 years |
| 17:23.46 | Andols2 | For some ppl it won't detect the game |
| 17:25.06 | Funkeh`` | you've unlocked the bonus cow level it sounds like |
| 17:25.11 | AcidWeb | yep it can't find a wow anymore |
| 17:25.23 | Funkeh`` | did it just update or something |
| 17:25.33 | AcidWeb | yeah |
| 17:25.38 | Funkeh`` | :D |
| 17:25.43 | Andols2 | I guess don't update then :D |
| 17:25.46 | Funkeh`` | i won't bother opening it |
| 17:25.53 | Andols2 | You have been warned :D |
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| 17:26.30 | AcidWeb | An unexpected error occured while adding your game" |
| 17:26.57 | AcidWeb | Well considering this is twich client i would not say "unexpected " |
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| 18:25.55 | Funkeh`` | Stanzilla: I just tested using 2 addons that have that library on beta, the error doesn't show |
| 18:26.06 | Funkeh`` | so the code is working fine at suppressing it |
| 18:26.39 | Stanzilla | I removed the lib from my addon so no idea |
| 18:30.33 | Simca_ | re: the client, there was some sort of weird server issue for about 35 minutes like an hour and 15 minutes ago |
| 18:30.58 | Funkeh`` | did you punch it |
| 18:31.27 | Simca_ | nah not my job thankfully |
| 18:31.32 | Simca_ | server jobs are stressful |
| 18:31.54 | Simca_ | on the plus side though, they deployed a fix to that really annoying 'addon updates don't show up until client restart' issue |
| 18:32.55 | AcidWeb | Well I still rather use Python script to pull addons from all sources. |
| 18:33.33 | Funkeh`` | what about that fix for throwing a massive "cannot download this file" error in your face when you click update sometimes |
| 18:33.45 | Simca_ | no clue |
| 18:34.37 | Simca_ | sure acidweb but somehow i don't think that's a good general solution |
| 18:35.06 | Simca_ | i'm not going to go tell my guildies 'oh updating addon is easy just build and maintain an obscure python script, don't be a scrub' |
| 18:35.23 | Simca_ | as amusing as that would be |
| 18:35.34 | AcidWeb | Well I never said this is a solution for everyone. |
| 18:38.19 | AcidWeb | I would love proper,standalone curse client not his third world plugin to bloated garbage. |
| 18:38.59 | AcidWeb | But that will not happen due to new overlords. |
| 18:41.08 | Simca_ | honestly the attachment to the client is probably not related to most of its problems. might be related to not getting proper dev time but that's pure speculation |
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| 18:49.34 | AcidWeb | TukUI one also have problems caused by not getting proper dev time. |
| 18:49.42 | AcidWeb | No idea about state of WoWI one. |
| 18:52.36 | Funkeh`` | Simca_: doubt it, it was actually working fine about 4 months ago, the latest issues are pure regressions |
| 18:52.48 | Funkeh`` | arguably the devs should just leave it alone when it actually works |
| 18:53.21 | Funkeh`` | the best one was that new releases now like like 40min to show up, and i'm not talking about the refresh issue |
| 18:53.50 | Simca_ | they've never shown up any faster than that for me |
| 18:54.13 | Simca_ | i just assumed they cache hourly or something |
| 18:54.20 | Funkeh`` | before about 4 months ago, they showed upo within 10min in every single client since it was called the ace updater, so 10+ years |
| 18:55.45 | AcidWeb | also it have problems with parsing addon directories that are git repositories |
| 18:55.49 | AcidWeb | and/or symlinks |
| 18:55.57 | AcidWeb | but that might be considered as edge case |
| 18:56.08 | Simca_ | to be fair the old one also sucked at symlinks |
| 18:56.28 | Simca_ | if you do it as a hard directory junction it works mostly |
| 19:00.01 | Simca_ | i don't have a whole lot of sympathy for failing at edge cases, but i am weird. i love to consider stupidly improbable edge cases and work to combat them, it's probably my favorite thing when developing |
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| 19:05.16 | Kemayo | Curious if anyone else has seen this: whenever I leave a vehicle, my (default) actionbars become no longer clickable. |
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| 19:32.17 | Andols | The new WQ in darkshore, is the only rewards 210 gear or is it anything else? |
| 19:35.06 | Kemayo | I've only seen 210 (+upgrades) gear so far. |
| 19:36.46 | Andols | Ok, so not worth doing then :) |
| 20:12.58 | Stanzilla | Slack just bought HipChat from Atlassian |
| 20:13.15 | Stanzilla | but only the IP, so they are killing the product |
| 20:25.23 | mikma | Lul |
| 20:28.00 | Ammako | That sounds really killer |
| 20:35.38 | Thunder_Child | Seems a little odd. I think people only gravitated toward hipchat if they were already in the Atlassian environment |
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| 21:15.34 | Ammako | Don't you hate when you log in and then sit there for 5 minutes because you forgot why |
| 21:16.42 | nevcairiel | That happens to me with all things I do |
| 21:17.02 | nevcairiel | Why did I login just now. Why did I walk into this room. |
| 21:18.02 | Ammako | I think that's everyone |
| 21:18.41 | Thunder_Child | You wish. |
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| 21:23.17 | Simca_ | Andols: WF rate on world quests is a lot higher than raids/dungeons. quite a few people are doing the weapon WQs just for a shot to replace their artifact |
| 21:23.32 | Simca_ | i already know several people who have gotten weapons ranging from 230-245 |
| 21:24.48 | nevcairiel | The paladin alt I'm mostly gearing with this has replaced his artifact already, but he was low geared anyway |
| 21:25.19 | Ammako | oh right I need to do this invasion |
| 21:26.08 | nevcairiel | My mains artifact is 242 or so, not sure I want to farm for a slight chance on that |
| 21:26.53 | nevcairiel | Nevermind that the weapons it offers is also random spec, so hybrids get shafted again |
| 21:27.38 | nevcairiel | Had a int staff Yesterday for my druid, can't really use that right now |
| 21:28.07 | Ammako | Don,t you feel compelled to play your off-specs yet |
| 21:28.17 | nevcairiel | Paladin had a 1h sword today for tanking, but at least I got a 2h yesterday |
| 21:28.49 | nevcairiel | I normally play many of them, but not right now or when leveling in bfa |
| 21:31.25 | Ammako | Wasn't that their reasoning for not making it adhere to loot spec or something |
| 21:32.39 | nevcairiel | I'm still annoyed by that spec-agnostic WQ system. I can understand how it may be cumbersome to switch specs to see what the loot is on them, but on the other hand hybrids just loose when they don't want gear for offspecs, while classes like mages which are int DPS everything can't get useless loot |
| 21:33.22 | Ammako | You could still get relics for the wrong spec, but at least that (probably?) won't be an issue anymore this time around |
| 21:33.40 | nevcairiel | Indeed that part is gone |
| 21:35.12 | Ammako | Pretty sure they also made quest rewards not care about loot spec anymore either, but they show you all possible rewards at once now anyway so it doesn't matter |
| 21:36.05 | Ammako | unless they changed that a while ago and I just didn't remember |
| 21:36.56 | nevcairiel | I think it mostly offers you all choices for your class now |
| 21:38.05 | Ammako | won't be a big deal with relics not being a thing anymore |
| 21:38.43 | Ammako | and tbh I was under the impression it was already like that before, anyway |
| 21:39.16 | nevcairiel | Maybe WQs should offer you a choice on hybrids |
| 21:40.50 | Ammako | Mostly I remember that one quest in Zangarmarsh that gives you a choice between a trinket that heals health or one that heals mana, even if your class couldn't use mana. but that might not be the same thing |
| 21:42.58 | nevcairiel | Old content is also old |
| 21:43.36 | nevcairiel | Outland is the oldest content in the game now, since classic was basically retouched across the board in cata |
| 21:44.14 | Ammako | I'm glad DKs can start in Northrend directly now, instead of going to Outland for whatever reason |
| 21:44.40 | nevcairiel | I skipped Outland on my latest leveling char as well |
| 21:44.47 | nevcairiel | It's really worse |
| 21:45.37 | Ammako | It's nice being able to pretend it doesn't exist anymore |
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| 22:26.01 | Ammako | Neat, I had *exactly* enough pigments in my inventory from months ago to make those three glyphs I wanted to make today |
| 22:30.37 | Mr_Rabies | <Ammako> Don't you hate when you log in and then sit there for 5 minutes because you forgot why |
| 22:30.45 | Mr_Rabies | for some reason that reminded me of https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Bus5crxnWPM/hqdefault.jpg |
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| 22:31.25 | Ammako | So much that he forgot to close the door |
| 22:31.39 | Mr_Rabies | too hot |
| 22:31.39 | Gnarfoz | wtf is that |
| 22:31.51 | Gnarfoz | looks a bit like RSMT guy |
| 22:32.06 | Mr_Rabies | ironic redneck memes |
| 22:32.35 | Ammako | hey healing touch is gone. neat |
| 22:34.45 | Mr_Rabies | don't you get it if you're resto/have resto affinity |
| 22:35.07 | Ammako | ye that's what I meant |
| 22:35.25 | Ammako | don't the others just have regrowth instead since a while ago too though? |
| 22:35.59 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 22:36.07 | Mr_Rabies | and it's been pretty much awful since |
| 22:36.27 | Mr_Rabies | i think rogues have better self heals than feral as of late legion |
| 22:37.56 | Mr_Rabies | which i have no real gripes for pvp, but in pve i end up eating/drinking a lot |
| 22:38.10 | Mr_Rabies | because my mana can't refill my hp to full from like 30% |
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| 22:41.50 | Constie | Rogues have a 30% HoT on a cooldown. It's quite strong given the rest of what they have, though. |
| 22:42.49 | Ammako | wow these npc guards aren't playing around |
| 22:44.42 | Ammako | also, minor thing, but if you shift-click tracked currency in default bag frame, you get a lua error |
| 22:49.35 | Mr_Rabies | they need to put more guards out there, i miss when you'd just get swarmed by guards, and elite guards would show up and clean up shop |
| 22:50.24 | Mr_Rabies | getting ganked repeatedly on argus inside an army of the light base is kind of stupid |
| 23:08.39 | nevcairiel | new build going onto beta/ptr, more fixeees |
| 23:14.43 | Ammako | I need to race change my shaman to a Dwarf. For Khaz Modan! |
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