| 00:00.19 | Semlar | did we figure out what api function returns map landmarks |
| 00:00.24 | Semlar | like taxi points |
| 00:00.34 | nevcairiel | most types of land marks have their own api now |
| 00:00.57 | Semlar | ah |
| 00:01.08 | nevcairiel | look through Blizzard_SharedMapDataProviders to find the one you are interested in |
| 00:01.20 | Semlar | looks like possibly C_TaxiMap.GetTaxiNodesForMap |
| 00:01.34 | Semlar | not sure whether they're using that for the world map or jus the taximap though |
| 00:01.45 | Semlar | it kind of implies the world map |
| 00:02.03 | nevcairiel | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/beta/Blizzard_SharedMapDataProviders/FlightPointDataProvider.lua this is used on the world map |
| 00:03.19 | nevcairiel | the flight map uses a different provider |
| 00:03.30 | nevcairiel | this one https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/beta/Blizzard_FlightMap/FM_FlightPathDataProvider.lua |
| 00:07.45 | Semlar | ah |
| 00:08.10 | Semlar | thanks |
| 00:09.53 | TheDanW | generally each landmark type was pulled out into a dedicated API |
| 00:10.43 | Semlar | i need to match the taxi map nodes up to where they should be on the world map |
| 00:11.03 | Semlar | i'm updating WorldFlightMap |
| 00:11.21 | Torhal | ABout damn time. |
| 00:11.22 | Torhal | >.> |
| 00:11.40 | Semlar | look, it's got "map" right in the name |
| 00:11.45 | Semlar | you can't expect it to work |
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| 00:22.39 | Semlar | what if i attached the world map to the nameplates.. |
| 00:23.15 | Torhal | "YOU ARE HERE" |
| 00:23.40 | Semlar | anchors minimap to target's nameplate |
| 00:23.56 | Semlar | NOW I DON'T HAVE TO TAKE MY EYES OFF OF THEM |
| 00:27.11 | Semlar | i can't help but notice this doesn't think there's a flight node at krasus' landing |
| 00:36.19 | TheDanW | you could probably just add the flight maps data provider to the world maps if you're at a flight npc, and redirect which map to open |
| 00:47.13 | tz | is BugGrabber not getting loaded early enough or something? lots of errors in the big-arse dialog at the start instead |
| 00:50.50 | Gethe | Semlar: have you looked at Foglight? |
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| 02:02.49 | ClaZylle | Hi guys ! |
| 02:12.51 | ClaZylle | Can someone tell me what is buggy in there ? The problem is : StanceBar (for druids) not disappearing and Store Button (only) not disappearing. |
| 02:13.01 | ClaZylle | https://www.wowace.com/paste/7239ff92 |
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| 02:36.20 | Ssateneth | is changing the jippogryph mount sound a bug? i dont like it. |
| 02:36.26 | Ssateneth | hippogryph* |
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| 04:21.55 | Semlar | OnTooltipSetUnit doesn't appear to fire any more? |
| 04:22.26 | Semlar | does anyone know if something has replaced this |
| 04:23.30 | Semlar | i lied, this just isn't working for other reasons |
| 04:43.44 | Semlar | Gethe: i need the map overlay data to update foglight and i haven't rewritten the tools to extract that from the game files yet |
| 04:44.14 | Semlar | i think some people already have it though |
| 04:45.22 | Torhal | I think it's time I gave Archy the NPCScan treatment; throw everything away and start over. |
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| 05:12.54 | AcidWeb | foxlit: I know you are TOC hippy but bump damn Interface version in opie. |
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| 05:43.28 | mukunda | TheDanW: i can use BNGetGameAccountInfo to pull info from people that aren't my friends, so long as they're in my bnet community. bug or feature? |
| 05:48.45 | bluspacecowtoo | I has a question about the issue tracker at Curseforge - If you put a new bug ticket in does the author get notified via email ? |
| 05:49.07 | nebula | if they've opted to |
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| 05:49.39 | bluspacecowtoo | it's not a default ? |
| 05:52.12 | mukunda | their email system is half broken i think |
| 05:52.19 | nebula | i think so i don't see per-project settings, though |
| 05:52.26 | mukunda | like sometimes ill get things, and sometimes not |
| 06:12.01 | Mr_Rabies | i've come to the conclusion that libtourist is a bit too broken for me to attempt to fix |
| 06:18.52 | Torhal | Not just broken - batshit crazy. |
| 06:19.29 | Torhal | It needed to be completely rewritten before the map API changes. |
| 06:19.34 | Torhal | Now, there's no choice. |
| 06:20.44 | Mr_Rabies | i simply tried to replace GetMapNameByID with C_Map.GetMapInfo |
| 06:20.54 | Mr_Rabies | i upset the demon embedded in the files |
| 06:21.36 | Torhal | There are far more old map things that the name :) |
| 06:21.43 | Torhal | s/that/than/ |
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| 07:01.30 | bluspacecowtoo | pfft |
| 07:01.51 | bluspacecowtoo | just throw libtourist out and make a new library with a silly name |
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| 07:02.34 | bluspacecowtoo | I know! MrMagooLib |
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| 07:44.29 | bluspacecowtoo | anyone know what GARRISON_BUILDINGS_SWAPPED got changed to ? |
| 07:44.49 | bluspacecowtoo | i'm getting an unknown events error but the events listing I'm looking at says its still a thing |
| 07:45.09 | bluspacecowtoo | maybe it's one of those funny "this event only fires after this other set of events fire" things |
| 07:46.38 | nevcairiel | just go to the garrison and swap some buildings? :) |
| 07:47.36 | bluspacecowtoo | but i just got out of the shower :( |
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| 09:01.16 | bluspacecow | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2011-02-17 |
| 09:01.19 | bluspacecow | *giggle* |
| 09:03.54 | Phixion | :) |
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| 09:13.37 | foxlit | AcidWeb: on vacation, and, well... |
| 09:13.53 | foxlit | https://go-hero.net/i/1tgrmvmu.png |
| 09:19.41 | Simca | nevcairiel: sorry to bug again but what's a good replacement for GetWorldLocFromMapPos? |
| 09:20.02 | Simca | i know i can use HBD for it but figured the blizz API might have it still, just renamed |
| 09:20.16 | nevcairiel | i didnt know the blizz api ever had that before 8.0 |
| 09:21.01 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:21.01 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:21.01 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:21.01 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:21.01 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:21.10 | Simca | is in this code so it must have |
| 09:21.42 | nevcairiel | C_Map.GetWorldPosFromMapPos does that anyway |
| 09:21.47 | nevcairiel | beware its table-y nature |
| 09:22.13 | Simca | ah ok so just renamed and under C_Map |
| 09:22.14 | AcidWeb | foxlit: Well. Enjoy your stay. |
| 09:22.16 | Simca | thanks |
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| 09:44.10 | [TOM_RUS] | instant disconnect when looting mobs, good job blizzard |
| 09:50.40 | Simca | they couldn't risk having the digital loot cross into russian hands and upsetting the sanctions |
| 09:50.47 | Simca | kappa |
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| 11:06.44 | VIad | I need tekkub to update GnomishVendorShrinker stat :( |
| 11:12.43 | Torhal | VIad: Bah, just fix the PlaySound instances and you're good to go. |
| 11:13.17 | VIad | it's not only that sadly :D |
| 11:13.29 | Torhal | o.O |
| 11:13.40 | nevcairiel | so fix it |
| 11:13.44 | nevcairiel | its not hard to make addons |
| 11:16.04 | VIad | fine. just wanted to avoid weird layering parenting anchor FontStrings going invisible at random debugging :( |
| 11:16.17 | Torhal | O.o |
| 11:16.50 | VIad | it's a bit odd, the labels on the items sometimes appear normally, sometimes no labels at all, sometimes a mixture |
| 11:17.16 | VIad | closing and opening the vendor makes the addon a bit funky, mainly the label behavior on the items |
| 11:17.44 | Torhal | Are you absolutely certain it has nothing to do with the LSD? |
| 11:19.43 | nevcairiel | sounds like a similar issue i've been seeing on some other scroll frames |
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| 11:34.44 | VIad | was the cause anchoring (anchored to invisible parent) or something else? hmm |
| 11:49.13 | nevcairiel | interestingly, updating routes for 8.0 was much easier then i feared it might be |
| 11:53.26 | nevcairiel | plugged the map drawing into a data provider and its even easier then before |
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| 12:42.23 | mke | http://u.cubeupload.com/gombreak/ScreenShot20180719at.png hm |
| 12:47.57 | VIad | modernist: experienced that meant name you use is taken, busy, not allowed, something |
| 12:48.29 | modernist | i cant believe they would ban the name "darling" |
| 12:48.42 | VIad | nevcairiel: yeah the dataprovider is nice. I wish there was a easy way to get a dataprovider though, you can enumerate pins by template, but you can't like get a dataprovider (have to iterate the provider table and do shenanigans to find the one you want) |
| 12:48.55 | VIad | could just be taken, was my experience :P |
| 12:50.29 | nevcairiel | most of the interesting stuff is inside the pints anyway |
| 12:54.33 | nevcairiel | but for adding stuff to the map i really cant complain, it let me do all the things i wanted to do quite easily |
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| 13:49.58 | VIad | think we'll have some funkyness with warmode, since it phases people and if you wanna do a dungeon and summon, can be a challenge if its mixed :D |
| 13:50.04 | VIad | (mostly the summon part) |
| 13:54.07 | AcidWeb | There is some new macro conditional for new layout of pvp talents? |
| 13:54.57 | VIad | not yet :P |
| 13:55.17 | VIad | wtb "tal" short for "talent" and "pvptal" for "pvptalent" |
| 13:55.44 | VIad | also wondering if it will be something like pvptal:The Name to check if you got it or not, dont know if you can do it the old 1/1 way |
| 13:56.22 | nebula | just an index |
| 13:57.55 | nebula | pretty awkward in any case |
| 14:00.50 | VIad | nevcairiel: doing :GetSize() on the FontString makes it appear... |
| 14:01.19 | VIad | annoys me since it's obviously not the good solution :P |
| 14:04.57 | VIad | works best if it happens the next frame as well, a bit wonky if it happens on the same frame as the :SetText is called |
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| 14:39.57 | ThiefMaster | oh my, which intern was tasked to update the legion phone app |
| 14:40.13 | ThiefMaster | it turned sound back on, and forgets the setting on restart even if i turn if off again... |
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| 15:43.39 | Ammako | Anyone know how to get to Boralus if the boat doesn't work |
| 15:43.52 | Thunder_Child | Flap your arms really hard. |
| 15:43.55 | nevcairiel | from? |
| 15:45.07 | Ammako | sw |
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| 15:46.13 | nevcairiel | isnt there a portal somewhere, at least if you have been there before |
| 15:46.31 | nevcairiel | might have been a temporary thing during early beta |
| 15:46.35 | Ammako | Yeah that's what I'm reading, it's not there though. maybe you need to have been there before |
| 15:48.30 | nevcairiel | if you've not been there before, the quest should take you tho |
| 15:50.27 | A-KO | someone should update the topic to put the 80000 TOC :P |
| 15:50.37 | nevcairiel | its not like the topic is wrong |
| 15:50.53 | A-KO | true... |
| 15:51.30 | A-KO | hmm |
| 15:51.31 | A-KO | this is odd |
| 15:51.45 | A-KO | for some reason twitch app says my addons are updated but TOCs in my addons folder still say 7xxxx |
| 15:51.48 | A-KO | for some of them.. |
| 15:51.59 | nevcairiel | maybe there just are no updates for those |
| 15:52.19 | A-KO | twitch has 'em at game version 8.0.1, and they all just updated... |
| 15:52.38 | A-KO | weird |
| 15:53.03 | Tentacled | Oi. Message: Interface\FrameXML\UnitPopup.lua:1358: Usage: CheckInteractDistance("unit", distIndex) |
| 15:53.15 | Tentacled | Right-clicked a person whispering me. |
| 15:53.22 | Andols_ | I have also seen that |
| 15:53.23 | nevcairiel | why would you do that |
| 15:53.30 | nevcairiel | dont right click foreigners |
| 15:53.35 | nevcairiel | its dangerous |
| 15:55.21 | nevcairiel | apparently they are starting tests on the community feature in a few minutes |
| 15:55.26 | nevcairiel | curious to see if it'll crash again =p |
| 15:58.12 | nevcairiel | although in the past they've been pretty good fixing live issues quickly, i still remember WoD launch when everythign was shit, and they basically retrofitted the hardware and the software in two days flat |
| 15:58.50 | Andols_ | Yea, the stories that they told at blizzcon and interviewes is impressive |
| 16:02.32 | Ammako | 200 IQ, undeleted my character from earlier in beta that was in boralus. I don't have to do battle for lordaeron again |
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| 16:13.04 | Ammako | Also, while I'm there: there's a bug with the new xp bar where the text doesn't update until you mouse over it. Noticeable only if CVar xpBarText is set to 1 |
| 16:15.07 | Ammako | (As in, it's specifically programmed to only update when you mouse over, rather than code being broken and not working when it should) |
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| 16:23.24 | Simca | Anyone know if somebody has made an addon that returns the default bar positioning to pre-8.0 standards? I have some friends who do not like it and do not want to use bar addons (yes, I understand the hypocrisy in their position, but they will not budge so I figured I would help in searching). |
| 16:24.54 | nevcairiel | Nope. |
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| 16:30.45 | Andols_ | Tentacled: Prats fault i think |
| 16:31.52 | AcidWeb | nebula: There is some reason why changelog pushed to curseforge by packager don't have "Previous releases" link? |
| 16:32.06 | Tentacled | Andols_, no Prat here. Only Chatter, I suppose. |
| 16:32.25 | Tentacled | (Unless I misunderstand something?) |
| 16:32.48 | Andols_ | Maybe a common library :/ or that they do the same thing wrong |
| 16:32.49 | Andols_ | :P |
| 16:34.20 | nevcairiel | Certainly a possibility, many chat add-ons stole from each other over the years :p |
| 16:35.26 | TheDanW | mukunda: not sure, i'll check |
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| 16:40.06 | mukunda | in the blizzard client beta i can see that people are playing world of warcraft in the community, even though they're not my friends, so i assume that sort of functionality might be on the way. but as of right now there isnt actually a way to get the game account ids from the bnet id, and im just scanning different numbers 1..n |
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| 16:41.45 | nevcairiel | Info you can see in the b.net client would probably also be ok in-game |
| 16:42.16 | Andols_ | TheDanW: Did you remove index 0 from CheckInteractDistance("unit", distIndex) ? Or did it just silently ignore it and didn't throw an error? |
| 16:43.15 | nevcairiel | What was 0 supposed to be? |
| 16:43.22 | Andols_ | Tentacled: Search in your addon folder and see if you can find anyone inserting anything into UnitPopupButtons |
| 16:43.40 | Andols_ | And check if you can see "dist = 0" there |
| 16:44.28 | Andols_ | Don't know but that is what is what Prat uses for the "Who Is?" button |
| 16:44.39 | Tentacled | Chatter's AltNames module says "hi". And indeed it has dist=0. |
| 16:46.02 | mukunda | TheDanW: also a couple quick questions, sorry :) (1) do you think we'll be getting functions soon to look up bnet info from a bnetAccountId if they aren't our friends? right now there is no way to get a battle tag or any sort of persistent ID for community members (as bnetAccountId is session based, and all 'names' are encoded as Kstrings) (2) do you think its reasonable to assume that in |
| 16:46.02 | mukunda | the future we'll be able to send whispers to people in a bnet community, as well as send game data to their game accounts? |
| 16:47.41 | TheDanW | Andols_: doesn't look like anything has changed since 2003, 0 has never been valid, but it would silently return false |
| 16:48.01 | mukunda | most of the bnet functions as of now don't work for community stuff and only work for people on your friends list; i see the new C_BattleNet which is still empty right now, and am hoping thats where a new api will be to help out non-friend bnet interactions |
| 16:48.32 | Andols_ | TheDanW: Did it silently return if unit was nil? |
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| 16:49.11 | TheDanW | mukunda: neither are likely, it's intentional that addons can't track that sort of data |
| 16:50.16 | TheDanW | Andols_: nothing changed with the error checking, if unit is nil then it'll Lua error, it must be a string (or convertible to one) |
| 16:52.52 | Andols_ | Found the problem and why dist was 0, the old UnitPopup.lua did "(UnitPopupButtons[value].dist > 0 " before it called that function |
| 16:53.09 | Andols_ | Now it looks if dist exists |
| 16:53.33 | TheDanW | Andols_: are you seeing this in the default UI or with addons? |
| 16:53.44 | Andols_ | With addons |
| 16:55.14 | Andols_ | Did not check the old version of 7.3.5 UnitPopup.lua, sorry for bothering you unnecessarily. |
| 16:57.29 | TheDanW | no worries, we made quite a few changes in UnitPopup, so it's certainly possible something isn't working quite right in there |
| 16:58.04 | Funkeh` | something's NOT QUITE RIGHT |
| 16:58.57 | mukunda | with the way things are now, its impossible for an addon or the ui to link data to a community member, as there's only the bnetAccountId, and you can't see what account/battletag that ID belongs to for cross-session storing |
| 17:02.16 | TheDanW | yeah, that's intended |
| 17:02.36 | mukunda | dang it... |
| 17:02.52 | mukunda | so basically unless they're on your friends list, you can't tell from the addon side who a message belongs to! |
| 17:25.04 | Andols | Funkeh`: I was wrong yesterday about the chat channels, happens without addons aswell |
| 17:25.37 | VIad | Semlar: I think Crack Cooldowns sometimes makes additional cooldown overlays to the extra action button, and one on the new honor frame counts down from 1 min something :P |
| 17:26.55 | Funkeh` | Andols: i know it does =P |
| 17:26.59 | Funkeh` | also had others report it to me |
| 17:27.11 | Funkeh` | no idea what's causing it |
| 17:27.25 | Funkeh` | you're not actually leaving the chat channels, they are just being disabled on chatframe1 |
| 17:28.31 | Funkeh` | if you press T you still see that you're in them |
| 17:29.25 | Funkeh` | what's even more weird is that it's only happening on my hunter and not on my DK |
| 17:31.07 | Funkeh` | (fwiw they both use the exact same addon set) |
| 17:34.17 | Ammako | Also where did MSAA go |
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| 18:24.52 | elci | wtf is SetPortraitTextureFromCreatureDisplayID, why doesn't it use trilinear filtering, and why does it use the skybox color as a background instead of just being black or transparent |
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| 19:21.05 | Andols | The only thing i can think of with the chat is that the write to chat-cache.txt fails to include the default channels |
| 19:22.46 | Andols | They does not dissapear if you reload, only when you log back in |
| 19:25.29 | Andols | The cache updates if you reload, and if you forcequit wow.exe and log back in the channels will be hidden again (so i guess the game only read that file on login) |
| 19:26.02 | Andols | And if you remove the cache the channels will be back |
| 19:26.07 | Andols | So ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 19:35.04 | Simca | fwiw new twitch client update, may have fixed update bugs with WoW |
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| 19:43.40 | VIad | I have never seen this room like this before... is this from some mythic phase or? https://i.imgur.com/3vSI2QW.jpg |
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| 19:44.30 | Spaten | yes, this is pacman |
| 19:44.38 | Spaten | you autowalk and need to collect stuff |
| 19:46.47 | Spaten | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3VTSCCFz00 |
| 19:47.53 | VIad | ah ok. it's visible all the time :P |
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| 20:27.18 | [TOM_RUS]|2 | TheDanW: I have some addon (not sure which one, I have too many) that disconnect me instantly when I loot any mob, fix plz |
| 20:27.34 | TheDanW | that doesn't help at all |
| 20:30.02 | Andols | TheDanW: Was the chat issue known? |
| 20:30.24 | Funkeh` | Andols: is it also on a specific char for you? |
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| 20:31.01 | Ammako | I upgraded my gpu and have MSAA again, sweet |
| 20:31.16 | Funkeh` | you mean your drivers? |
| 20:31.21 | Ammako | no, my gpu |
| 20:31.33 | Ammako | replaced 750 Ti with 1050 Ti |
| 20:32.16 | [TOM_RUS] | https://paste2.org/K7D4kI1z that's interesting too |
| 20:35.06 | Kemayo | TheDanW: For the new Item API, any plan to expand it to cover inspected units? (I can use it for my own character's equipment slots, but not my current inspect-target's.) |
| 20:35.52 | Kemayo | Unless there's a way to specify that with ItemLocation already, which I suppose I can't rule out not having seen. |
| 20:38.56 | nevcairiel | The itemlocation mixin is a truly weird one |
| 20:44.03 | [TOM_RUS] | TheDanW: I found exact line of lua code that is causing my disconnects |
| 20:44.43 | AcidWeb | Disconnect()? |
| 20:44.48 | [TOM_RUS] | nope |
| 20:44.56 | Alram | DisconnectIfRussian()? |
| 20:45.07 | [TOM_RUS] | TheDanW: while in party/raid, run /script C_ChatInfo.SendAddonMessage("LOOT_OPENED", "", "RAID") |
| 20:45.17 | AcidWeb | ah that one. |
| 20:45.25 | [TOM_RUS] | that line was in one of private wowhead addons |
| 20:45.34 | Alram | classic wowhead |
| 20:45.37 | nevcairiel | You forgot the prefix there |
| 20:45.40 | AcidWeb | Yeah sending empty strings is not healthy. |
| 20:46.25 | nevcairiel | Wrong add-on message use could always disconnect you |
| 20:46.41 | nevcairiel | Try something over 255 chars and you also go |
| 20:46.49 | TheDanW | Kemayo: in the future ideally, but not presently |
| 20:47.11 | [TOM_RUS] | that addon years old, no one touched it until few days ago |
| 20:47.23 | Alram | so its had bad code for years |
| 20:47.30 | TheDanW | Andols: yeah, we are tracking it |
| 20:49.49 | [TOM_RUS] | nevcairiel: it should not disconnect in any case |
| 20:50.00 | [TOM_RUS] | if anything it should error ir fail silently |
| 20:50.06 | [TOM_RUS] | or* |
| 20:50.23 | nevcairiel | It's probably the server enforcing constraints, not the client |
| 20:51.15 | [TOM_RUS] | yes ofc |
| 20:51.37 | [TOM_RUS] | it doesnt change the fact that it should not disconnect |
| 20:56.05 | AcidWeb | And cripple sense of adventure? Never. |
| 20:59.22 | Andols | Nice :) Funkeh`: On every character 2 hours ago but now only on a few :/ |
| 21:00.08 | [TOM_RUS] | that line was actually part of AceEvent-2.0.lua, which is really outdated |
| 21:01.03 | Funkeh` | how is it working if the api changed |
| 21:01.30 | nevcairiel | Yeah ace2 had weird features like that |
| 21:01.32 | Funkeh` | you're using an ancient addon and someone is hacking it along? |
| 21:01.43 | nevcairiel | Someone thought it was useful back in the old days |
| 21:01.46 | Funkeh` | since it's a C_ChatInfo function now |
| 21:02.31 | [TOM_RUS] | it was erroring so I added "C_ChatInfo.", and after that it started to disconnect me on loot |
| 21:02.43 | Funkeh` | haha |
| 21:03.05 | Funkeh` | see, the error was to protect you from yourself |
| 21:03.35 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: messages over 255 do not disconnect you |
| 21:03.54 | Funkeh` | I've yet to reproduce a case that actually disconnects you now via addon comms |
| 21:04.00 | nevcairiel | Well they did in 7.3.5 |
| 21:04.05 | nevcairiel | Didn't try just now |
| 21:04.46 | nevcairiel | Oh and they also still did in the beta when I was testing acecomm |
| 21:06.04 | Funkeh` | 7.3.5 was when I tried |
| 21:07.16 | Funkeh` | do you have "optimize network for speed" disabled? |
| 21:08.02 | Gnarfoz | is there some setting to disable propagation of framexml errors to the lua error thing? |
| 21:08.56 | Gnarfoz | I don't really care about some addon's Deferred XML Node object named L_UIDropDownMenuButtonTemplate already exists error :D (OTOH, perhaps it'll make the poor guy fix it; but it's in a library) |
| 21:11.24 | Funkeh` | use bugsack? |
| 21:11.47 | Funkeh` | afaik it's tied to having script errors cvar enabled |
| 21:13.35 | Gnarfoz | I'm using bugsack, yes |
| 21:13.51 | Funkeh` | https://github.com/funkydude/BugSack/issues/8#issuecomment-406357471 |
| 21:14.41 | nevcairiel | i keep tellnig people that xml in libraries is just factually wrong |
| 21:14.43 | Gnarfoz | hm? yes, that's the library in question, but that's not really what I asked :D |
| 21:14.44 | nevcairiel | but they dont listen |
| 21:14.59 | Gnarfoz | and isn't the script errors cvar the one that turns errors on/off entirely? |
| 21:15.28 | nevcairiel | I would love a filter option for the new Lua Warnings in either BugGrabber of BugSack, where you can somehow control which of those messages you care about |
| 21:16.08 | Kemayo | Yeah, all these missing-file ones... |
| 21:16.30 | Simca | there was a bugsack update that fixed the issue i was having where several of the new types of error would bypass bugsack and do the blizzard frame lua error in the middle of your screen |
| 21:16.33 | Funkeh` | i'm more tempted to say fix the addons/yell at authors |
| 21:16.34 | nevcairiel | i currently hacked up BugGrabber to not grab them and instead grab them myself and filter out the ones i dont want |
| 21:16.53 | nevcairiel | missing files are pretty standard if you use a repo checkout |
| 21:17.03 | nevcairiel | like, your own addons you dev on |
| 21:17.04 | Kemayo | Funkeh`: The missing-file ones are sort of inherent to the whole external-libraries thing, with development versions of addons, though. |
| 21:17.47 | Simca | yeah, I use a development version of my addon where the lib file references libraries that are packaged with the addon at a later date. it works for me locally because i manually installed all the libraries i need |
| 21:17.59 | Simca | i think most people do it that way |
| 21:18.26 | Kemayo | Particularly if we're doing it via curse, so we get the whole pkgmeta library-bundling experience. |
| 21:18.40 | Funkeh` | then you should be using packager flags that keep that code commented out until packaged |
| 21:19.04 | nevcairiel | no such flags exist |
| 21:19.07 | Simca | i don't think the package handles lua commenting |
| 21:19.07 | nevcairiel | i looked |
| 21:19.10 | Funkeh` | yeah they do |
| 21:19.11 | Simca | packager* |
| 21:19.16 | Funkeh` | I used them at one point |
| 21:19.38 | nevcairiel | they exist for Lua, not for TOC, at least according to the documentation |
| 21:19.48 | Simca | i 'fixed' it by just commenting out all the library references in my local copy, and i'll just never commit that |
| 21:19.49 | nevcairiel | anyway thats not the point, such a function in an addon would be truely trivial |
| 21:19.53 | Funkeh` | don't reference them in toc, reference them in xml |
| 21:20.27 | nevcairiel | Instead of changing all my addons, i'll just keep commenting one line in BugGrabber and have everything work |
| 21:20.37 | Funkeh` | okay, keep doing it wrong =P |
| 21:21.04 | nevcairiel | even BigWigs suffers from that problem |
| 21:21.07 | nevcairiel | so fix it :p |
| 21:21.22 | Funkeh` | only if you remove the libraries, which I don't! |
| 21:21.48 | nevcairiel | "remove"? they are never there |
| 21:21.51 | nevcairiel | i cloned the repo |
| 21:21.56 | Gnarfoz | we're back to doing the put xml in toc, load lua from xml thing? lol |
| 21:22.09 | Funkeh` | back? we we're always there |
| 21:22.38 | Simca | if these are the flags you are talking about, they strip stuff on packaging, not comment things out. https://i.imgur.com/9sTbCdu.png |
| 21:22.42 | Kemayo | The packager lets you add TOC comments but not remove them, for what it's worth. |
| 21:22.44 | Simca | maybe i am using the wrong flags though |
| 21:22.51 | nevcairiel | Kemayo: yeah that was my understanding |
| 21:23.19 | Simca | I don't think there's a way to locally comment out the file loads then have the package 'uncomment' them |
| 21:23.47 | nevcairiel | there is in Lua and XML, but not in TOC |
| 21:23.56 | nevcairiel | for some reason they never added the second pair for those |
| 21:23.59 | Simca | k, what are they, i will start using them |
| 21:24.09 | nevcairiel | <!--@non-debug@ and @end-non-debug@-->. |
| 21:24.09 | nevcairiel | Turns into <!--@non-debug@--> and <!--@end-non-debug@-->. |
| 21:24.10 | Kemayo | If you're doing XML, I think there's `<!--@non-debug@` + `@end-non-debug@-->` |
| 21:24.12 | Simca | idc if files are listed in toc or xml, i will change over |
| 21:24.30 | Kemayo | Knowledge base: https://authors.curseforge.com/knowledge-base/world-of-warcraft/532-repository-keyword-substitutions |
| 21:24.34 | nevcairiel | at l east thats what the docs say |
| 21:24.35 | Simca | kk |
| 21:25.04 | Kemayo | My entire motivation for having stuff in the TOC is "ugh, XML". |
| 21:25.09 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
| 21:25.26 | Simca | it's not like you're actually using it |
| 21:25.36 | nevcairiel | i keep adding xml to my addons |
| 21:25.43 | nevcairiel | for silly map dataprovider pin templates |
| 21:26.33 | Gnarfoz | having my addon be more files for basically "just because" feels wrong :P |
| 21:26.36 | nevcairiel | i like all the mixin stuff, but some of it being tied to xml frame templates is just annoying |
| 21:28.27 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: thats why i'll just keep filtering the messages out if stubborn people won't add features to their addons. Or maybe fork the addon and do it myself =p |
| 21:29.11 | Gnarfoz | a pull request can do wonders; for some "no" is code for "I won't add that if I have to do it myself" |
| 21:30.02 | Simca | it's 1 more file, hardly the apocalypse here |
| 21:30.51 | nevcairiel | i prefer to rely on as little rarely-tested packager features as possible =p |
| 21:31.22 | Funkeh` | i'll probably just embed all the libraries in the BW repo and ignore them in the packager or something |
| 21:31.39 | nevcairiel | now thats definitely the wrong way to do it |
| 21:32.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah I was kind of shocked when you suggested that next door as well :D |
| 21:33.26 | Simca | i think Funkeh` was afraid his position might be too reasonable on this subject so he had to make it more ridiculous |
| 21:33.30 | Simca | lol |
| 21:36.09 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 21:38.11 | Funkeh` | I don't really see the problem, it works if you just checkout, it works if you use separate libraries, and it works if you use the official zip |
| 21:38.58 | nevcairiel | except that your bundled libs either get out of date or you need to keep updating them, using the xml packager flags suggested above would be much better |
| 21:39.18 | Funkeh` | using that reduces choice |
| 21:39.31 | Funkeh` | you have to use the separate libraries option |
| 21:39.42 | nevcairiel | everyone that checks out repos does that already anyway |
| 21:39.45 | Simca | right, which he suggested using, but then he realized we thought xml packager flags weren't a bad idea, so he had to go find a bad idea to defend |
| 21:39.52 | Funkeh` | then they dont have a problem with out of date libraries |
| 21:40.03 | Funkeh` | since it will always trake priority |
| 21:41.48 | Funkeh` | the only people it would ever be a problem for is people that just checkout, and even then it's not a big deal to update them every patch |
| 21:42.58 | Kemayo | Having tested it, that non-debug XML packager flag doesn't actually seem to work. |
| 21:43.16 | Simca | sigh |
| 21:43.17 | nevcairiel | figures |
| 21:43.27 | nevcairiel | yell at the non-existant zeldo more |
| 21:43.38 | nevcairiel | not like curse support ever got back to me on my last ticket |
| 21:43.42 | Simca | i'll just go back to my old solution of commenting out those lines locally and never committing it |
| 21:43.52 | Kemayo | Unless "debug" means something more expansive than I am thinking. |
| 21:45.39 | nevcairiel | Simca: just borrow my solution to it https://github.com/Nevcairiel/FilterLuaInterfaceWarnings |
| 21:46.09 | Simca | that sounds slightly more complicated than a handful of comment characters |
| 21:46.22 | nevcairiel | its just an addon you download once and leave it there |
| 21:46.29 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
| 21:46.30 | Kemayo | Do there exist any actually useful for our purposes lua warnings? |
| 21:46.36 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 21:46.41 | Simca | errors |
| 21:46.44 | nevcairiel | it yells at you for non-existing xml t emplates and whatnot |
| 21:46.52 | nevcairiel | its just the file missing error that is awkward |
| 21:47.04 | nevcairiel | at least for me |
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| 21:51.21 | Ketho | did blizz fix the honorframe taint? I can't reproduce it anymore with the macro https://www.townlong-yak.com/bugs/afKy4k-HonorFrameLoadTaint |
| 21:55.05 | TheDanW | fix would be a strong word, but it may be better |
| 21:55.13 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 21:58.32 | Funkeh` | rofl |
| 22:07.45 | Funkeh` | TheDanW: I can't use GetSpellCharges(20484) to see battle res count on every char anymore? |
| 22:09.49 | TheDanW | Funkeh`: i don't know, gameplay made have changed the way it works, we didn't change anything on the UI side |
| 22:09.58 | TheDanW | may* |
| 22:10.26 | Funkeh` | is there another way to get charges/timer? |
| 22:14.44 | TheDanW | i don't know |
| 22:16.41 | Funkeh` | ok nvm they've either intentionally changed LFR to the old cooldown system or they busted it |
| 22:16.52 | Funkeh` | I used it and it went on a 10min cd |
| 22:30.04 | Mr_Rabies | there's no way to filter curse search results or sort by update time or anything is there |
| 22:30.32 | Mr_Rabies | oh i guess the app lets you |
| 22:30.34 | Mr_Rabies | i was using curseforge |
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| 23:02.28 | [TOM_RUS] | https://github.com/tomrus88/BlizzardInterfaceCode/commit/f0aa5d5bc0a510543f957672613095586e83ce4b#diff-955e3a3bcb2d13e272105229538a2d3eL607 wondering why they added local var instead of directly passing argument... |
| 23:03.18 | Funkeh` | either intern or on purpose for people reading it |
| 23:03.29 | Kemayo | I'd guess as documentation, so it's not a random ", true" at the end with no sign of what that means. |
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| 23:08.20 | [TOM_RUS] | todays q&a has such retarded answers... |
| 23:10.05 | [TOM_RUS] | "The team didn't want to make leveling more difficult after the additional Patch 7.3.5 changes." |
| 23:10.12 | [TOM_RUS] | yet they did... |
| 23:10.26 | [TOM_RUS] | theirs words and actions contradict themselves |
| 23:11.53 | [TOM_RUS] | "There have been a lot of gameplay quality of life issues. Random abilities in dungeons are one shotting people, or things in old raids weren't scaled right." |
| 23:12.13 | [TOM_RUS] | that still happening but they talk about it like a thing of the past |
| 23:13.00 | nevcairiel | the dungeon xp thing was debunked as a glitch, and any squish related power-level things are possibly still being worked on, invasions have returned to their scaling nature, so seems like leveling is fine |
| 23:14.38 | [TOM_RUS] | they also removed end dungeon exp for no fucking reason, you can't boost your low lvl toons with high lvl anymore... |
| 23:14.59 | nevcairiel | you didnt watch the Q&A did you |
| 23:15.04 | nevcairiel | he said w hat happened to the end of dungeon xp |
| 23:15.14 | nevcairiel | you get it now for killing the endboss |
| 23:15.17 | nevcairiel | instead of separately |
| 23:15.34 | [TOM_RUS] | you get nothing if high lvl kills the boss I think? |
| 23:15.55 | nevcairiel | being boosted is not leveling and i dont care if they break it =p |
| 23:16.03 | [TOM_RUS] | it's leveling |
| 23:16.20 | [TOM_RUS] | alternative way of leveling |
| 23:16.28 | TheDanW | makes the callsite more readable |
| 23:16.30 | Kemayo | Understandable if they want to shut it down, though. |
| 23:16.32 | [TOM_RUS] | and they removed it for no fucking reason |
| 23:16.36 | nevcairiel | no, its an alternative way of not leveling |
| 23:17.20 | Kemayo | Or holding a position of "if you want to get to 110 by not-playing-the-game, we have a way for you to pay us for that". |
| 23:17.29 | [TOM_RUS] | except you were actually getting levels, but not anymore |
| 23:22.14 | Semlar | i can't use my gnomish army knife to rez people any more, it just says "skill not high enough" |
| 23:25.26 | Ketho | it's the new iron man challenge I tell you |
| 23:28.16 | Semlar | it's a bit rude of it to insult my skill level |
| 23:40.49 | Simca | [TOM_RUS]: they already said all of that stuff is bugs and will be fixed. end dungeon exp thing is a bug, scaling bad is a bug, etc. all bugs |
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| 23:42.43 | [TOM_RUS] | they had beta for bug fixes |
| 23:45.47 | [TOM_RUS] | If I was blizzard, I would have extended beta by few month instead of rushing to release bugged crap |
| 23:56.14 | Funkeh` | He's not wrong at least =P |
| 23:56.21 | Funkeh` | but things always get missed |
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| 23:59.28 | eke00372__ | is honor frame taint got fixed in 8.0.1? |
