| 00:06.20 | Mr_Rabies | there was never a solution for npcscan overlay was there, the curse packager thing is still bugged? |
| 00:08.29 | Gnarfoz | https://i.imgur.com/KrACU5E.gif |
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| 00:14.46 | Torhal | Mr_Rabies: Yeah, it's re-encoding the files so the binary is all scrambled. I need to rewrite it all anyway, due to the 8.0 map changes, so I'll just compress the paths another way. |
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| 00:19.13 | *** topic/#wowuidev is BfA Author Keys! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56267 || 7.3.x ToC: 70300 || http://pastebin.com || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || This channel is logged, via purl |
| 00:19.14 | kd3 | I'd say open a ticket, but that's probably not going to help right now |
| 00:34.52 | Kemayo | The flood of "please please give me an addon that just perfectly replicates the old old UI layout" threads are amusing me. |
| 00:35.22 | Gnarfoz | change be hard, yo |
| 00:35.35 | kd3 | heh. it took me a few minutes to adjust to it on alpha then I stopped thinking about it. not that I look at my buttons much |
| 00:35.51 | Simca_ | i'm glad other people are upset about it |
| 00:36.04 | Simca_ | i have a few friends who hate it and i was going to have to write an addon for them to fix it |
| 00:36.18 | nevcairiel | bartender4 has a blizzard-layout preset which is still the old layout |
| 00:36.18 | Simca_ | now i can just be lazy and wait for somebody else to do it |
| 00:36.24 | nevcairiel | i was too lazy to update it to the new one |
| 00:36.41 | Simca_ | like exactly like the blizzard-layout, with the art assets and stuff/ |
| 00:36.43 | Simca_ | ? |
| 00:36.55 | nevcairiel | not sure its 101% accurate, but its very close |
| 00:37.00 | Simca_ | neat |
| 00:37.41 | nevcairiel | although not sure it puts the bars on the side of the screen |
| 00:37.50 | nevcairiel | but the main bar in the center is at least there =p |
| 00:38.06 | nevcairiel | apparently the live troubles have taken down beta with it |
| 00:38.11 | nevcairiel | so i cant confirm! |
| 00:38.28 | kd3 | crap. I was planning on doing beta stuff tonight after getting home from work |
| 00:38.29 | nebula | need all the resources they can get |
| 00:38.30 | Torhal | Well, shit. I was going to work on more updates, too. |
| 00:39.13 | nevcairiel | hey it even has the bars at the side of the screen |
| 00:39.16 | nevcairiel | i always found that ugly |
| 00:39.21 | nevcairiel | but someone else contributed this preset |
| 00:39.23 | nevcairiel | so shrug! |
| 00:39.51 | nevcairiel | will probably need some tweaking for the new xp/rep/ap bar cluster |
| 00:40.00 | nevcairiel | i'll look into that tomorrow if i remember |
| 00:47.31 | [TOM_RUS] | they ddi it afterall https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2412223-Old-raids-are-ruined |
| 00:48.26 | Gnarfoz | of course they did |
| 00:48.47 | nebula | same shit happened the last time the squished, it was mostly fixed by the following week |
| 00:48.57 | Gnarfoz | and the time before that |
| 00:49.22 | [TOM_RUS] | so much "beta testing" |
| 00:49.40 | [TOM_RUS] | when blizz starts caring about stuff few says before release |
| 00:49.44 | nebula | oh please |
| 00:49.49 | [TOM_RUS] | and then releases bugged crap on us |
| 00:50.20 | Gnarfoz | feedback has always felt yelling into an empty room :D |
| 00:50.53 | [TOM_RUS] | that's how blizzard "works" |
| 00:50.54 | nevcairiel | i'm sure the world is ending because people cant run old raids for a couple days until its fixed |
| 00:50.55 | Torhal | Now people are theorizing that they cannot log in because they have the wrong version. "Shouldn't this be 8.0 and not 8.0.1?" |
| 00:51.05 | [TOM_RUS] | "we are listening for feedback" |
| 00:51.33 | kd3 | hell, I directly talked to some friends in qa and they were aware about this and a few other things... |
| 00:51.40 | nevcairiel | listening and acting-on are entirely separate actions |
| 00:51.51 | nevcairiel | people always get that confused |
| 00:52.06 | nebula | BUT IF THEY DON"T DO ANYTHING THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T CARE |
| 00:52.25 | nevcairiel | surely its because they all sit there and twiddle their thumbs all day, right? |
| 00:52.28 | [TOM_RUS] | exactly |
| 00:52.31 | Gnarfoz | that's not that much of a stretch, nebula :p |
| 00:53.08 | [TOM_RUS] | they also ruined leveling again |
| 00:53.15 | nebula | to the forums, where i can feed my anger with other like minded individuals! |
| 00:53.23 | [TOM_RUS] | https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2412209-leveling-nerfed-again |
| 00:54.54 | [TOM_RUS] | teh boost sales were still low after 7.3.5 so they did another "leveling pass" |
| 00:55.06 | nebula | spamming dungeons to level is dumb anyway |
| 00:55.07 | nevcairiel | which is just a nonsense argument |
| 00:55.14 | nevcairiel | people leveled allied races because they had to |
| 00:55.26 | nevcairiel | buying a boost is not an option because it doesnt give them the s et they want |
| 00:56.11 | Gnarfoz | people must be obsessed with leveling new chars |
| 00:56.39 | [TOM_RUS] | I would never waste time leveling for some crappy transmog, that's just retarded |
| 00:56.55 | nevcairiel | thats what everyone else did in 7.3.5 tho |
| 00:57.17 | [TOM_RUS] | I dont even have bfa yet |
| 00:57.22 | [TOM_RUS] | because reasons |
| 00:57.34 | Gnarfoz | that's fine, you still have a month |
| 00:58.56 | nevcairiel | leveling through ordinary methods also doesn't take the time those doomsayers always say it does |
| 00:59.05 | nevcairiel | i know because i just leveled a new char last week |
| 01:01.15 | [TOM_RUS] | leveing is slwo and boring. that's where problem is |
| 01:01.30 | [TOM_RUS] | before 7.3.5 it was only boring |
| 01:01.50 | [TOM_RUS] | so they added another problem instead of fixing it |
| 01:02.13 | Gnarfoz | the point of levels in a game is rarely that the player can skip through them as fast as possible |
| 01:02.28 | Gnarfoz | so... maybe you're looking for a game without levels |
| 01:02.40 | [TOM_RUS] | it may be cool if you do it for a first time |
| 01:02.44 | [TOM_RUS] | but after that... |
| 01:03.04 | Gnarfoz | maybe leveling to max should just unlock all classes at max level |
| 01:03.13 | [TOM_RUS] | they should just make heirlooms give 300% XP and be done |
| 01:03.15 | Gnarfoz | that'd be a bit odd |
| 01:03.54 | [TOM_RUS] | they say ppl can choose slow and fast leveing |
| 01:04.03 | [TOM_RUS] | instead of having no choise at all |
| 01:04.22 | Gnarfoz | who says that? Blizzard? |
| 01:05.51 | [TOM_RUS] | no blizzard wants everything to be as slow as possible |
| 01:06.06 | [TOM_RUS] | because MAU to show to investors |
| 01:07.30 | [TOM_RUS] | since they stopped reporting sub numbers, they also stared adding those retarded slow down changes all over the game |
| 01:08.38 | nevcairiel | MAU does not measure time spend in the game, it only counts number of players in a month, you count for that if you just logged in once for 5 minutes. |
| 01:09.02 | Simca_ | there's certainly a group of players would rather leveling be replaced with a button that says 'go to max level' |
| 01:09.08 | Ketho | I wouldn't mind getting xp from roleplaying and fishing |
| 01:09.09 | Simca_ | but i don't think the majority of the playerbase thinks that |
| 01:09.48 | Simca_ | even if they did, giving players what they want is not always the best idea. people generally have a very bad idea of what they actually want. |
| 01:12.14 | Torhal | I was incredulous when they first came out with level boosts, simply due to the fact that many people have no idea how to play their characters even when starting from level 1. :D |
| 01:13.02 | nevcairiel | yeah i personally dont really like the experience of playing a boosted char, it lacks the proper chance to grow into the char |
| 01:13.19 | nevcairiel | although i havent done the new boosting scenario in legion, maybe it got better, the one in wod was terrible |
| 01:14.07 | nevcairiel | still have my 110 boost, might use it on a lvl 100 that i might want to play in bfa |
| 01:14.09 | Torhal | I have two 100 and one 110 boost I'll probably never use. |
| 01:14.28 | Torhal | WOuld be nice to sell. :D |
| 01:15.13 | [TOM_RUS] | nevcairiel: boost scenario is crap, i'd be better if you could just skip it |
| 01:16.04 | [TOM_RUS] | but blizz forcing everyone do that pointless crap |
| 01:25.46 | Mr_Rabies | pretty sure you can, i forget the exact process |
| 01:25.55 | Mr_Rabies | delete the hearthstone and then use unstuck or something, i forget |
| 01:27.04 | nebula | you can't just use the hearthstone? |
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| 01:44.27 | Semlar | don't suppose there's any trick to getting past the login screen |
| 01:47.12 | Torhal | Unfortunately not. |
| 01:47.59 | Talyrius | does anyone have a diff of 7.3.5 to 8.0 up on GitHub? |
| 01:51.13 | Mr_Rabies | <nebula> you can't just use the hearthstone? |
| 01:51.17 | Mr_Rabies | might be able to, i forget |
| 01:51.20 | Mr_Rabies | i think you can maybe |
| 01:51.30 | Mr_Rabies | once you port in to anywhere you just learn all your spells at once |
| 01:52.00 | Torhal | Talyrius: No idea, but you can use https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/beta and change the dropdown to 7.3.5 and scroll down until you see a Compare link. |
| 01:52.48 | Talyrius | That should work, thanks. |
| 01:53.48 | Torhal | There's probably a better way of using the site that I'm unaware of. |
| 01:54.12 | Mr_Rabies | eu realms down yet? |
| 01:57.26 | pompy1 | Semlar: I one shot the login boss |
| 02:02.02 | Torhal | AFter multiple wipes. |
| 02:02.46 | pompy1 | psh |
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| 02:05.33 | Torhal | I got in long enough to hear FATALITY a few times, then was disconnected and now see "No servers are currently available." |
| 02:06.18 | Funkeh` | good, you are doing your job of making sure we have a stable experience when ours goes live |
| 02:07.22 | Torhal | :P |
| 02:09.23 | pompy1 | yeah they restarted/shut down the servers |
| 02:15.15 | Mr_Rabies | second phase |
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| 02:52.57 | Mr_Rabies | sure glad the latest date for an addon update is "tomorrow" |
| 02:55.32 | nebula | servers are never coming back ;_; |
| 02:58.40 | kd3 | https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20765956859 |
| 03:00.44 | Torhal | But what if I want my $0.50, kd3? |
| 03:00.46 | nebula | whew, and here i thought they all just called it a day and went home |
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| 03:04.06 | Torhal | Well, I managed to get to the character screen on Beta... let's see if I get Character Not Found. |
| 03:06.42 | nebula | beta works for me |
| 03:06.52 | Torhal | It had also been down for hours. |
| 03:06.57 | Torhal | I'm in just fine now, though. |
| 03:07.01 | nebula | yea, i got on a little while ago |
| 03:18.06 | nebula | communities sabotaging everything |
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| 03:37.55 | Ssateneth_ | is anyone developign an OldActionBar addon to get the odl action bar back? i dont like change |
| 03:42.22 | nebula | i'm sure a bunch will pop up in the next few days |
| 03:55.24 | kd3 | gdi twitch client, grr |
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| 04:28.33 | tz | twitch client just refuses to see new addons |
| 04:28.34 | tz | sigh |
| 04:29.09 | tz | I should just go back to scraping the damn webpages in a script and updating that way, seems to be stuffed more often than when it works |
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| 05:20.33 | Mr_Rabies | just give everyone 280g on every character and call it :v |
| 05:20.42 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 05:20.44 | Mr_Rabies | on one character |
| 05:20.57 | Mr_Rabies | assuming i did my math correctly, that's about 50c of gold |
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| 05:49.46 | Simca_ | hey Stanzilla fix postal k thanks |
| 05:50.03 | Simca_ | <3 |
| 06:28.14 | Mr_Rabies | now that master loot is gone hopefully we'll get some good loot rolling addons |
| 06:28.24 | Mr_Rabies | ther are a lot out there, but they're all a bit jank |
| 06:29.14 | Mr_Rabies | i just need something that works with our system: trade extra gear that you don't need to a loot master, who rolls it off to anyone that can use it for MS first, then OS, then xmog |
| 06:30.47 | Mr_Rabies | people caught trading loot under the table get a warning, same with people bothering other people for loot |
| 06:30.54 | AcidWeb | RCLootCouncil will support (already is?) that |
| 06:32.30 | Mr_Rabies | it doesn't mention anything about personal loot stuff, seems geared for ML? |
| 06:32.55 | AcidWeb | https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/rclootcouncil/issues/339 |
| 06:33.34 | Mr_Rabies | neat |
| 06:33.50 | Mr_Rabies | does it require people to all have the addon? if not i'll definitely look into swapping to that |
| 06:35.08 | nevcairiel | it does require everyone having it |
| 06:35.16 | AcidWeb | Definitely yes. |
| 06:35.28 | Mr_Rabies | i use https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/roll-master, which worked OKAY in 7.3, but it was really janky |
| 06:35.34 | Mr_Rabies | oops broke the url |
| 06:35.35 | Mr_Rabies | https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/roll-master |
| 06:36.11 | Mr_Rabies | it just parses /rolls and has scripts for timing them, etc |
| 06:36.36 | AcidWeb | Also author of Personal Loot Helper trying to make proper support for this lack of ML. |
| 06:36.46 | AcidWeb | But his UX skills are quite poor. |
| 06:37.02 | Mr_Rabies | ultimately in the end i can pick the winner and declare them leader, so you can do things like troll the tank by having everyone roll on the shield he's wanted for months |
| 06:37.09 | Mr_Rabies | but still declare him winner in the end |
| 06:37.27 | Mr_Rabies | er declare them winner, not "leader" in the first line |
| 06:39.03 | Mr_Rabies | it's a good system, imo -- only one roll at a time going out, people don't feel pressured to give up gear because all gear that isn't needed is rolled off quasi-anonymously through an officer |
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| 06:40.02 | Mr_Rabies | we do it with BoEs too, but only roll them for MS - if no one needs for MS we sell it on the AH (or sell to guildies for os/alts for a lesser amount, so long as they equip it and don't sell it) |
| 06:40.52 | Mr_Rabies | people caught selling their BoEs get in trouble, but that can be hard to prove |
| 06:41.50 | Mr_Rabies | can't 100% tell if someone got it in a pug, but if they don't have it equipped and it's up there, also policing the AH is a nightmare, and obviously they could just launder it through an alt |
| 06:42.12 | Mr_Rabies | but we got good honest folks for the most part |
| 06:42.51 | AcidWeb | I would say if you have problem with people that don't want to share items properly in non-pug grup then it is work for a whip not a addon ð |
| 06:43.03 | Mr_Rabies | well it just simplifies the process |
| 06:43.15 | Mr_Rabies | when you're rolling off 8 items between bosses it can get complicated |
| 06:43.59 | Mr_Rabies | one person does the rolling and the addon keeps track of the rolls and transparently announces winners, etc |
| 06:44.52 | Mr_Rabies | we do have a problem with them from time to time, unfortunately -- the better dps tend to be pretty greedy with the loot |
| 06:45.27 | Mr_Rabies | not our veterans who do good dps, but the new guys we pick up each tier and end up booting in a pile of drama after a couple months |
| 06:46.00 | Mr_Rabies | those guys tend to try to just use us to leapfrog to the guilds progressing faster than us |
| 06:54.31 | Mr_Rabies | the good players that also are team players are total unicorns on my dead server, hopefully we get some more realm connections before the first tier of BFA |
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| 07:03.27 | nevcairiel | seems doubtful that they would do that before raids |
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| 08:26.36 | AcidWeb | FYI areaPoiID returned by C_AreaPoiInfo.GetAreaPOIForMap is not static. |
| 08:26.52 | AcidWeb | It when status of POI change. |
| 08:27.00 | AcidWeb | *It changes |
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| 09:11.14 | Funkeh` | AcidWeb: eh? |
| 09:14.00 | VIad | do someone have a link to the post that supressed the "Message: Couldn't open" and error loading errors? |
| 09:14.44 | nevcairiel | https://pastebin.com/Vzsmxfga thats my variant for it, suppresses those file loading things, and re-directs the others to your error handling addon |
| 09:16.13 | VIad | thanks mate |
| 09:16.26 | VIad | also I hope pvptalent macro conditional gets some love :P |
| 09:16.39 | VIad | still kind of usable depending on what pvp talents are selected active |
| 09:29.41 | AcidWeb | Funkeh`: ? |
| 09:58.41 | Bludazedcow | Anyone know how to get MoveAnything working again or failing that an alternative that saves the window positions ? |
| 09:59.33 | Bludazedcow | This is the error I get https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/move-anything/issues/619 |
| 10:01.05 | nevcairiel | you can just remove TEXT calls |
| 10:01.15 | nevcairiel | TEXT(FOO) should just become FOO |
| 10:03.04 | Bludazedcow | i can't just comment it out ? |
| 10:03.14 | Bludazedcow | oh wait that'll make an undefined error |
| 10:03.57 | Bludazedcow | FOO=FOO |
| 10:08.24 | nevcairiel | button1 = TEXT(YES), should just become button1 = YES, |
| 10:10.28 | Bludazedcow | sounds like resike's going to be a while updating that one. from the discord he's on sounds like he's in the middle of writing his thesis |
| 10:10.58 | nevcairiel | sucks if you pickup all these random addons to maintain and then dont even maintain them |
| 10:22.06 | foxlit | slap a function TEXT(a) return a end into the first-loaded file and call it a day |
| 10:32.36 | Bludazedcow | lol |
| 10:32.39 | Bludazedcow | now he tells me |
| 10:32.49 | Bludazedcow | after I found all occurences of that and altered it |
| 10:34.43 | nevcairiel | fixing it properly is so much more rewarding! |
| 10:40.40 | Bludazedcow | i dunno feels a bit too much like magic |
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| 11:21.34 | Bludazedcow | Done! https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/move-anything/issues/619 |
| 11:21.54 | Bludazedcow | well I was done a while ago but was fighting with curseforge's silly comment controls |
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| 11:46.19 | [TOM_RUS] | so I have spell cast macro with shift modifier and also cast without modifier in that same macro, and when modifier is pressed, macro icon doesn't update wtf? |
| 11:47.32 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 11:47.40 | nevcairiel | are you using an actionbar addon? |
| 11:48.13 | [TOM_RUS] | yes elvui |
| 11:49.02 | nevcairiel | maybe they need to handle something new? although i dont remember much changes for actionbars |
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| 12:19.32 | Funkeh` | TheDanW: dunno if you're aware but the C_LFGList documentation is missing a fair few |
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| 13:49.18 | nebula | p3lim_: can you tell p3lim that his wasabi lib fails at loading libstub for me please -Stanzilla |
| 13:49.43 | nebula | eg 4x Error loading BonusRollPreview\libs\Wasabi\LibStub\LibStub.lua |
| 13:52.31 | nevcairiel | where does Stanzilla hide again |
| 13:53.16 | nebula | he's apparently still with his gf |
| 13:53.49 | p3lim_ | nebula: it's fixed, just haven't uploaded yet, bit busy atm |
| 13:53.59 | nebula | no worries |
| 13:54.24 | nevcairiel | i almost thought i fixed all the addons i use |
| 13:54.32 | nevcairiel | but then i opened the mailbox and postal broke |
| 13:54.33 | nevcairiel | :( |
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| 13:55.47 | p3lim_ | screw you nickserv |
| 13:56.08 | nebula | imposter! |
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| 14:48.59 | Andols | Simca_: The packaging for SimpleObjectiveProgress failed "@project-revision@" did not change on line 7 in LibObjectiveProgress-1.0 |
| 14:49.25 | Andols | or the Libs packaging, don't know when that changes :D |
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| 15:05.55 | ThiefMaster | Ssateneth https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/floretroui does it partially |
| 15:06.01 | ThiefMaster | oh, didn't scroll down all the way, nvm |
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| 16:11.14 | Simca__ | Andols: ugh. I thought that bug was fixed. |
| 16:12.08 | Simca__ | so how do other people do libraries now? manually increment their revision every commit? |
| 16:12.52 | nevcairiel | thats what i do |
| 16:13.09 | nevcairiel | it doesnt break down or randomly cause nonsense if people copy/paste your lib into another project instead of e mbedding it |
| 16:13.22 | nevcairiel | instead of referencing it, i mean |
| 16:13.35 | bluspacecow | anyone got a list of valid events handy ? Auditor is complaining that TRADE_CLOSE is an unknown event |
| 16:18.13 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:18.15 | Funkeh` | go trade |
| 16:20.54 | bluspacecow | hmm now to find a vendor |
| 16:22.49 | Torhal | bluspacecow: It's TRADE_CLOSED now. |
| 16:23.03 | bluspacecow | *forehead slap* |
| 16:23.10 | bluspacecow | omg so simple fix |
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| 16:36.48 | Ketho | foxlit what happened to the GlobalAPI list in the Helix folder |
| 16:36.54 | Ketho | frantically looks for a goat to sacrifice |
| 16:37.38 | nebula | exe obfuscation |
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| 16:56.39 | Fumler | TimeManagerClockButton:Hide() no longer works, but /fstack say that it's still named the same, any ideas? |
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| 16:58.12 | bluspacecowtoo | https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/move-anything?comment=4116 |
| 16:58.28 | bluspacecowtoo | awww how adorable |
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| 17:16.43 | ebonyfaye | anyone know anthing about Unknown script element OnClick? |
| 17:17.50 | nebula | sounds mysterious |
| 17:18.21 | bluspacecowtoo | is it making a ticking noise ? |
| 17:20.40 | Funkeh` | you're trying to register OnClick to something that isn't a button |
| 17:21.14 | ebonyfaye | nope just fires on login, and there not really any other help apart from the frameName but i tried looking at that, the thing is the code does not use OnClick :S |
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| 17:23.10 | ebonyfaye | i use :SetAttribute |
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| 17:34.46 | TheDanW | Funkeh`: only new (~7.2+) or reworked functions are documented |
| 17:35.27 | Funkeh` | isn't all the LFG api brand new? |
| 17:44.18 | ebonyfaye | i found my problem |
| 17:45.32 | ebonyfaye | CreateFrame( "StatusBar", healthName, parentFrame, "TextStatusBar,SecureActionButtonTemplate" ) |
| 17:45.45 | znf | Simca__, is the WoWDB profiler doing anything these days? |
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| 17:46.42 | AcidWeb | Funkeh` Did you checked AREA_POIS_UPDATED on live? It still is unreliable? |
| 17:46.49 | AcidWeb | On battlegrounds. |
| 17:47.08 | TheDanW | LFG was written in WoD |
| 17:50.52 | Simca__ | znf: same as always |
| 17:51.10 | znf | Simca__, cool, wasn't sure it's still live |
| 17:51.30 | Funkeh` | AcidWeb: not yet, it was only specific batlegrounds like arathi basin, ill test it in a bit |
| 17:51.51 | Simca__ | anyone done a raid yet and know how scaling went? |
| 17:52.03 | Funkeh` | but I don't think it was a UI issue for TheDanW to fix I think it was a design issue |
| 17:52.50 | Funkeh` | considering they fucked up and mixed the horde/alliance sounds in some BGs and no one has fixed it for about 2 expansions now I don't have high hopes |
| 17:54.06 | AcidWeb | Yeah api behavior on battlegrounds can't be called consistent. |
| 17:54.50 | AcidWeb | Each one have some quirks. |
| 17:57.12 | TheDanW | AREA_POIS_UPDATED in bgs will be fixed shortly |
| 17:57.55 | AcidWeb | BTW probably you know about it already but sometimes scrolling of bg scoreboard don't work. |
| 17:58.01 | AcidWeb | Sadly I forgot to copy the stack. |
| 17:59.07 | AcidWeb | Also we talking about hotfix shortly or next minor patch shortly? |
| 18:01.37 | TheDanW | hotfix, the scrolling when >20 entries will be fixed too |
| 18:02.43 | AcidWeb | Great! |
| 18:03.05 | ebonyfaye | "TextStatusBar","SecureActionButtonTemplate" fix that am not sure what whats changed idk |
| 18:08.22 | Funkeh` | that looks like a valid bug report |
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| 18:24.51 | Andols | I wonder how many more expantions before "LFG_PROPOSAL_SUCCEEDED" start to fire again :D |
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| 18:41.38 | Funkeh` | TheDanW: 1x SharedXML\SecureUIPanelTemplates.lua:317: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'itemHeight' (a nil value) |
| 18:41.47 | Funkeh` | related to the scrolling issue? |
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| 18:46.00 | Alram | battleground player overview also has that issue |
| 18:47.21 | TheDanW | yeah |
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| 19:12.38 | nezroy | wow that GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED event seems to be going insane |
| 19:16.14 | nezroy | also anyone know who I can ask about someday getting PickupPvpTalent and PickupSpellBookItem added to the secure PickupAny handler? I tried asking about it in the forums but mostly just got yelled at :) |
| 19:25.14 | Thunder_Child | TheDanW would be the one to poke. |
| 19:25.47 | Thunder_Child | He can add it to his infinitely large list of things to take care of. |
| 19:53.24 | TheDanW | added it to the request list |
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| 20:12.34 | nezroy | heh |
| 20:12.35 | nezroy | thanks :) |
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| 20:17.05 | Funkeh` | TheDanW: I logged on my char for like the 5th time today and all of a sudden got a "character boost is ready" popup in my face (yes i've not used it) anyway, weird randomness of that popup aside, I also got this https://pastebin.com/0dhJLaAk |
| 20:18.08 | nevcairiel | i got the same error with the popup earlier this morning |
| 20:18.10 | nevcairiel | only once |
| 20:20.09 | Funkeh` | am I the only one being removed from all the global channels general/trade etc when logging out |
| 20:20.24 | [TOM_RUS] | mythic antorus tuning still horrible, and it's been over a day since prepatch :/ |
| 20:20.31 | Funkeh` | as in, when I log back in I have to join them again |
| 20:21.03 | Funkeh` | or maybe not join them, enable them on the main chat frame in the chat frame settings |
| 20:21.21 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt know, i always leave them anyway |
| 20:21.45 | TheDanW | Funkeh`: thanks, we have fixes in the pipe for both |
| 20:21.58 | Funkeh` | both? |
| 20:21.59 | Andols | Yea, i also leave the channels |
| 20:22.15 | Funkeh` | Andols: good to know it's not just me |
| 20:22.25 | [TOM_RUS] | somehow they managed to hotfix argammar raid cleave doing 0 damage t oactauly do damage in between our wipes on him, yet argus still overtuned as fuck |
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| 20:24.16 | Funkeh` | TheDanW: the randomnes and the error, or the error and my chat issue |
| 20:24.31 | nevcairiel | i think the randomness and the error are closely related |
| 20:24.48 | Andols | I wonder. Are the hotfixes for encounters loaded when a boss spawns/engaged or can they apply in the middle of a fight? :D |
| 20:25.00 | Funkeh` | on spawn |
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| 20:27.09 | nevcairiel | there have been cases where it applied mid-fight |
| 20:27.17 | nevcairiel | but thats only special things when they really force it |
| 20:29.21 | TheDanW | yeah, the are related |
| 20:37.15 | Andols | Funkeh`: I think it's Prat that is to blame for the chat channel thing |
| 20:37.38 | Funkeh` | I don't use it |
| 20:40.56 | Funkeh` | TheDanW: is it intentational that using SetChatColorNameByClass(type, false) doesn't seem to have any effect anymore |
| 20:48.35 | TheDanW | should still work, are you seeing the update_chat_color_name_by_class event? |
| 20:49.37 | Funkeh` | i wasn't listening to an event, just firing that on a "class color" toggle |
| 20:49.52 | Funkeh` | but it seems like there's a new cvar that takes priority |
| 20:50.09 | Funkeh` | UIParent.lua > ChatClassColorOverrideShown() > GetCVar("chatClassColorOverride") |
| 20:50.21 | Funkeh` | if that's on it doesn't matter if you toggler the former off |
| 20:50.36 | Funkeh` | in fact it only checks the former is that cvar returns nil |
| 20:51.01 | Funkeh` | ChatFrame.lua > Chat_ShouldColorChatByClass > return override or (override == nil and colorByClass); |
| 20:51.42 | Funkeh` | override is nil if the cvar doesn't return "0" or "1" which should be never? |
| 20:53.03 | Funkeh` | I'll just swap to using the CVar but that code seems irrelevant due to said CVar, not sure if intentional |
| 21:08.09 | ThiefMaster | *sigh* xperl/zperl not being updated for a new addon... i rememver that already being the case back when lichking/cata came out... |
| 21:13.49 | Funkeh` | that's still alive? |
| 21:14.01 | Funkeh` | swap to SUF already |
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| 21:19.48 | nezroy | OK with all addons disabled and whatnot I'm seeing hundreds of GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED events every second while standing out near some NPCs fighting. Is that normal? I don't recall seeing that before but it also doesn't happen in a quiet place like Dalaran. |
| 21:20.53 | Solanya | Resike said he's going to update ZPerl in a day or two |
| 21:21.03 | ThiefMaster | having played for probably 5 years with [xz]perl i got kind of used to its look ;) |
| 21:27.46 | TheDanW | nezroy: what is the event payload? i'm not seeing any GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED on live |
| 21:28.53 | nezroy | arg1 is just "0" every time |
| 21:29.10 | nezroy | I'm getting this while standing on Darkfall Ridge watching Khadgar kill demons in Krokuun |
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| 21:30.30 | nevcairiel | GIIR is the old event, 8.0 introduced a new one, ITEM_DATA_LOAD_RESULT, can the old one even still fire? |
| 21:30.59 | nevcairiel | i guess the new one only fires if you use the specific data loading API |
| 21:34.06 | TheDanW | yeah, the old one fires if you use GetItemInfo |
| 21:34.23 | TheDanW | my guess is you have some macros that are /use or /cast |
| 21:34.46 | TheDanW | and the action bar is trying to update their button state, guessing that they are an item |
| 21:35.48 | nezroy | yeh looks like, it is a macro on actionbar with /castsequence by name and some spells I don't have talented anymore |
| 21:46.26 | Torhal | TheDanW: Not sure if this is a UI issue, but the game thinks The Vindicaar is The Exodar. |
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| 21:46.55 | TheDanW | Torhal: in what way? |
| 21:47.44 | nevcairiel | 831 is the Vindicaar on Krokuun, C_Map.GetMapInfo(831) says "The Exodar" |
| 21:48.51 | nevcairiel | the other vindicaars are fine |
| 21:49.03 | Torhal | Ah, it's specifically Krokuun where this happens. In Antoran Wastes and Mac'Aree the name is correct. |
| 21:52.57 | Torhal | Oh, weird lag issue apparently. |
| 21:56.53 | TheDanW | gotcha |
| 22:03.19 | nevcairiel | TheDanW: i got reported some odd anchoring issues in 8.0 just recently and can also reproduce that, but so far failed to make a reaonable reproduction case, is there anything known on your end? I'll continue my efforts to make a reproducible example thats not an entire addon. |
| 22:04.07 | TheDanW | hrm, i'm not aware of any anchoring issues presently |
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| 22:04.50 | Semlar | Stanzilla: "advanced interface options has new comments" |
| 22:05.25 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.49 | Semlar | what if i just like removed this feature |
| 22:08.10 | Kesava | ah people have force enabled don't they |
| 22:08.12 | Kesava | yuuuuup |
| 22:09.22 | Semlar | i think it wasn't an issue until i started importing every possible cvar in the game |
| 22:09.55 | Semlar | so now it's remembering things like "did you watch this intro cinematic"? when it shouldn't |
| 22:12.05 | nevcairiel | TheDanW: thats the users addon that reported this for our AceGUI framework, https://imgur.com/a/HD1gYnq .. the top version is when it bugs out, you can usuall resolve it by scrolling the scrollframe up and down. I'll see what I can come up with for examples |
| 22:17.52 | TheDanW | hrm, my first guess would be responding to a OnSizeChanged handler and adjusting anchors in there that could invalidate anchors related to the frame that was just resized; the order of those handler has never been defined, but certainly changed in 8.0 |
| 22:21.20 | nevcairiel | i tried delaying various things to an OnUpdate in the future but couldnt observe any notable effect |
| 22:22.10 | nevcairiel | in fact most of the things use relative anchors so that we dont have to change anchoring, but just change frame size and it should scale automatically |
| 22:28.11 | nevcairiel | there is one resize action going on, namely when the scroll frame is being drawn and it notices it needs a scroll bar, it'll redraw with the scrollbar enabled |
| 22:28.29 | nevcairiel | but we intentionally do that in OnUpdate to avoid any issues from doing it inside a size change h andler etc |
| 22:34.50 | Ssateneth | hey guys. i found the AuraUtil.FindAuraByName function to replicate finding a buff/debuff by name easily. I wanted to know the syntax of the filter argument. If I wanted to check a harmful debuff cast by me on the target, what would be the syntax of the filter argument? |
| 22:35.17 | Ssateneth | AuraUtil.FindAuraByName(spell, "target", "HARMFUL PLAYER") ? |
| 22:35.54 | Ssateneth | or AuraUtil.FindAuraByName(spell, "target", "HARMFULPLAYER") ? or what about AuraUtil.FindAuraByName(spell, "target", "HARMFUL" "PLAYER")? |
| 22:36.09 | nevcairiel | that should work, although the common syntax is to use pipes as separator, ie. "HARMFUL|PLAYER" |
| 22:36.23 | Ssateneth | Ah, pipe, never thought of that. |
| 22:36.38 | Ssateneth | wow im blind. |
| 22:36.44 | Ssateneth | "separated by spaces or pipes" |
| 22:36.48 | Ssateneth | Thanks, sorry |
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| 22:44.47 | nevcairiel | I'm beginning to think that ScrollFrames are just secretly evil |
| 22:49.20 | Funkeh` | weren't they always |
| 22:51.15 | TheDanW | are your fontstrings anchored to other fontstrings? |
| 22:51.28 | nevcairiel | no, to the image |
| 22:51.40 | nevcairiel | which is anchored to the checkbox |
| 22:52.57 | TheDanW | how are the textures sizes determined? by set size/width/height, anchors, or dynamically by asset (size of 0), or some combination? |
| 22:53.11 | nevcairiel | explicit size |
| 22:54.57 | nevcairiel | the fontstring is the only thing th at gets its size from the anchors, its anchored "RIGHT" (ie. to its parent, the frame container of the entire row), and "LEFT, image, RIGHT" |
| 22:55.14 | nevcairiel | with a specified height |
| 22:56.07 | TheDanW | but the fontstring isn't ultimately part of the anchor chain? they're leafs the branch off of the checkbuttons/textures? |
| 22:56.37 | nevcairiel | right, nothing is anchored to the fontstring |
| 22:57.02 | TheDanW | i got nothing :/ |
| 22:57.05 | nevcairiel | there was one workaround that seems to work sometimes |
| 22:57.37 | nevcairiel | if instead of anchoring the fontstring to the image, i w ould anchor it to the checkbox (like the image), and offset it to the right to start where its supposed to start, the bug would be much less frequent |
| 22:58.47 | TheDanW | hrm, strange |
| 22:59.11 | nevcairiel | unfortunately there is so many layers in such an UI that making a simple example is proving hard |
| 23:03.24 | nevcairiel | if I remove the resize when the scroll frame wants to show the scroll bar, the bug doesnt happen anymore, but not like thats a solution, dynamically showing scroll bars is nice :( |
| 23:04.48 | TheDanW | hrm, i would imagine if you were deferring it through OnUpdate or C_Timer.After(0 then it wouldn't matter |
| 23:48.49 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:53.39 | nevcairiel | hrm found another scrollframe related UI issue |
| 23:53.45 | nevcairiel | this time its simply not showing some frames :D |
