| 00:01.42 | foxlit | for example a mission might have a Powerful Argus Elite (reduces success chance), and a Hazard. For some hilarious reason, success chance begins at -25%. Countering the Argus Elite with a Lightforged Bulwark (and leaving the Hazard as is) lands you at... that's right! 40% success chance. Because reasons. |
| 00:03.44 | foxlit | adding a Dreamgrove warden counters all of the "threats", but lands you at... you're correct again! 70% success chance, because the moonkins add 30% and the hazard doesn't count for anything. |
| 00:08.07 | Chipzz | I've never looked at how the succes chance works for OH, but OHC seems to get at least that part right? |
| 00:08.11 | foxlit | (this gets worse when you have an OH talent which increases the success chance of the *first mission you run each day* -- you can't easily factor this out of the success chance calculations, so if you did MP-style group selection and then sent out three 200% missions, you might later discover that they turned into 200%, 180% and 180% groups, which would be bad.) |
| 00:08.25 | Chipzz | or are you saying it's too different from garissons that your existing code wouldn't work with it? |
| 00:09.03 | nebula | foxlit did math for the success rate, OHC brute forces that shit trying all combinations of followers |
| 00:09.34 | Chipzz | oh didn't know that |
| 00:10.25 | foxlit | nah, MP does both. |
| 00:11.39 | foxlit | for missions that you presently have, trying all possible combinations of everything is reasonable, as it's relatively fast and you really don't want to be in a situation where your math says X% and Blizzard says Y%. |
| 00:13.37 | foxlit | MP does math for missions that you *don't* have, which was useful back when things you wanted had static threat combinations, and you had to figure out which 25 of your 512 followers you could keep active. |
| 00:15.44 | foxlit | (any actual performance difference on available missions is probably just down to better caching logic) |
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| 01:21.22 | Munk | What am I doing wrong? |
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| 01:22.25 | Munk | Nvm. The website had inaccurate information. |
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| 05:24.42 | AcidWeb | My OH addon is most not innovative thing I ever wrote for WoW. None of addons had everthing I wanted so I made small frankenstein. |
| 05:25.00 | AcidWeb | I also bruteforce mission chance. |
| 05:26.41 | AcidWeb | On unrelated note - updating this type of addons to BfA is not very complex as only real change is new way to get AP values from rewards. |
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| 07:20.36 | nevcairiel | i havent used such mission helper addons since WoD, since its so trivial to just do missions by the seat of your pants |
| 07:21.06 | nevcairiel | and will get even simpler in bfa again |
| 07:22.27 | jleclanche | Folks I have *one* blizzcon ticket that freed up and nobody left to take it. Who needs it? /cc Cairenn dolby |
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| 22:21.46 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.24 | Mr_Rabies | tsundere security is a good option |
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| 22:54.32 | Munk | TheDanW: gief macro conditional for SpellIsTargeting |
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| 23:07.22 | Munk | I want to be able to set a temp binding for casting reticle spells without lame hacks. |
| 23:09.23 | Munk | I don't think it can be abused in any way, because a secure action has to precede it. |
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| 23:28.57 | foxlit | Just hypothetically, /cast [@none] Healing Spell With Cooldown -> check for [glowinghand] -> aha, it's off cooldown! |
| 23:34.21 | Munk | So how would you write that into a macro |
| 23:38.26 | foxlit | Odd question. You can more or less intersperse arbitrary RE code and macro command execution at will, so it's pretty much just "run the /cast", call SecureCmdOptionsParse from RE, adjust strategy accordingly. |
| 23:39.35 | nevcairiel | yeah it would allow you to check the cooldown of a 3d targeted spell, which would probably be bad, although maybe a limited bad |
| 23:39.50 | nevcairiel | the impact would probably not be that huge, but still |
| 23:40.56 | Semlar | i'm more interested in a function that lets you even check if a spell brings up a reticle when it's cast |
| 23:41.18 | Semlar | as far as i know there is no way to identify ground-targeted spells |
| 23:41.18 | foxlit | Semlar: honestly, function(spellID) return DOES_SPELL_BRING_UP_RETICLE[spellID] end |
| 23:41.29 | nevcairiel | i was going to say the list cant be that logn =p |
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| 23:42.14 | Semlar | so how do i get a list |
| 23:42.49 | Semlar | i sure as hell don't know what spells are ground targeted off the top of my head |
| 23:43.09 | nebula | you add spells as you encounter them, duh |
| 23:43.33 | Semlar | that's not really ideal |
| 23:43.44 | [TOM_RUS] | db2, check what kind of target spell expects |
| 23:43.58 | Semlar | i'm looking for the solution where i don't have to actually waste my time looking up this data and keeping it maintained if it ever changes |
| 23:44.09 | foxlit | get someone else to write the addon for you. |
| 23:44.12 | nebula | ^ |
| 23:44.34 | nebula | just supervise, like how Stanzilla does addons |
| 23:44.36 | Thunder_Child | I think Semlar usually is that person. |
| 23:47.15 | foxlit | (or implement a GUI in visual basic to... let your users edit that table with whatever they need) |
| 23:49.27 | Semlar | when they added the ability to /cast [@cursor] i started writing an addon that automatically replaced every spell on my bars that was ground-targeted with a macro that used that |
| 23:49.41 | foxlit | s/implement a GUI in/create a GUI interface using/ |
| 23:50.08 | Semlar | but ultimately i gave up on it because you can't actually check what spells are ground-targeted in-game |
| 23:50.34 | Semlar | well, that's not true, i could have just converted every single spell to have /cast [@cursor] |
| 23:52.36 | Semlar | thus solving the problem once and for all |
| 23:57.31 | Gnarfoz | a graphical user interface interface, foxlit? |
| 23:59.53 | foxlit | indeed! |