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| 20:59.32 | TheDanW | the clamp modes tell the renderer what to do if your uvs end up outside of 0-1, for example, clamp would clamp 1.5 to 1, so you'd effectively be selecting the last row/column of texels of the texture to the edge of the quad |
| 21:00.13 | foxlit | what's the difference between CLAMP, CLAMPTOBLACK, CLAMPTOWHITE, CLAMPTOBLACKADDITIVE? |
| 21:00.43 | TheDanW | instead of using the texel, use that color/blend mode instead |
| 21:01.15 | foxlit | so BLACKADDITIVE is "TRANSPARENT" |
| 21:01.45 | TheDanW | for masks this tends to matter more, if you have a circular mask that reaches the edge of the texture (see our perfectly named TempPortraitAlphaMask), then with clamp you'd end up with this strange cross shaped mask |
| 21:01.52 | TheDanW | with a circle in the center |
| 21:02.08 | TheDanW | effectively yes |
| 21:03.19 | TheDanW | generally, if you're going to make a mask, don't follow our example and make the asset correctly, then you won't have to fiddle the wrap modes |
| 21:04.55 | Munk | I couldn't spot any difference in my masks so I couldn't figure out what it was doing. |
| 21:05.14 | TheDanW | your masks are probably authored in a more sane way :) |
| 21:14.12 | TheDanW | the TempPortraitAlphaMask asset was authored for the old mask tech, which composites on the cpu and is much more limited, we should have just made a new asset for the new mask tech |
| 21:14.37 | TheDanW | there's new assets for azerite masks, particularly the channel filling bar, those are probably better examples |
| 21:20.25 | foxlit | are icons still special? |
| 21:21.22 | foxlit | (it used to be the case that if you did e.g. :SetTexture("Interface/Icons/Temp") and then asked it to draw e.g. (-1,0) -- (0, 1), it would draw some entirely different icon) |
| 21:22.39 | TheDanW | most spell/inventory icons are dynamically atlased, so that probably still happens |
| 21:26.19 | foxlit | "The wrap options are [also used] if the size of the texture object is greater than the default size of the supplied texture file." |
| 21:26.54 | foxlit | I'm pretty sure we're lying in those docs, as :SetTexture("Interface/Icons/Temp") :SetSize(512, 512) will probably just display a very big single icon. |
| 21:29.05 | TheDanW | correct, you have to set the tex coords to select texels outside of 0-1 |
| 21:30.47 | foxlit | Is there some combination of XML parameters/method arguments that would instruct it to set those coords based on the original image size and the widget's size? |
| 21:33.16 | foxlit | (something suspicious like useAtlasSize?) |
| 21:35.36 | TheDanW | the closest would be tiling, as that uses the assets physical size and automatically adjusts the right/bottom uvs to tile the texture across the widget's size |
| 21:37.09 | TheDanW | texture's horizTile/horizTile or backdrop's tiling attributes |
| 21:37.13 | TheDanW | er vertTile |
| 21:37.47 | TheDanW | if you opt into that, then your tex coords will be destroyed when the UI rebatches the texture |
| 21:43.19 | foxlit | not sure what batching means here. |
| 21:49.55 | foxlit | in related un-news, :SetHorizTile doesn't seem to do anything obvious to me, and it seems impossible to specify wildly differing horizWrap, vertWrap in a SetTexture call |
| 21:52.32 | foxlit | e.g. :SetTexture("Interface/ContainerFrame/UI-Icon/QuestBang", "REPEAT", "MIRROR") just repeats the texture across both dimensions |
| 21:53.34 | foxlit | I wonder if I should be testing this on beta instead. |
| 21:56.31 | nevcairiel | with merely days to go, probably no reason to test anything on live |
| 21:57.25 | foxlit | realm stability and lack of a 5GB download :) |
| 21:59.20 | foxlit | okay, client stability as well. |
| 21:59.53 | foxlit | :SetTexture("path", nil, "MIRROR", "NEAREST") crashed it. |
| 22:00.16 | TheDanW | it was working great, always breaking things :( |
| 22:00.38 | TheDanW | horiz/vert tile in xml behaves differently than in Lua |
| 22:01.08 | TheDanW | if you're doing it in lua, you need to :SetHorizTile and "REPEAT" when you set the texture |
| 22:03.52 | foxlit | I think you have a copy-paste bug in your SetTexture implementation, where the block responsible for setting the internal equivalent of vertWrap actually sets it to the value passed for horizWrap |
| 22:04.43 | foxlit | but the outer if (this argument was specified) { do stuff } check for vertWrap checks the right argument. |
| 22:05.42 | foxlit | so passing nil, "WHATEVER" results in bad things happening, and passing e.g. "REPEAT", "MIRROR" is equivalent to "REPEAT", "REPEAT" |
| 22:06.14 | TheDanW | i recall there was a bug like that i fixed for bfa, when i added filtering |
| 22:06.19 | TheDanW | are you on live? |
| 22:06.38 | foxlit | 8.0.1.27026 |
| 22:08.23 | foxlit | live doesn't crash, but seems to ignore vertWrap entirely. |
| 22:08.30 | foxlit | maybe you fixed the outer if. |
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| 22:11.35 | TheDanW | yeah, wrapModeV is being ignored, you always get clamp |
| 22:12.32 | TheDanW | or not, it gets copied from h in certain circumstances |
| 22:12.38 | TheDanW | bleh |
| 22:12.57 | foxlit | I could only find cases where it gets copied from h. |
| 22:13.14 | TheDanW | don't pass in a string to wrapModeV |
| 22:13.42 | foxlit | "REPEAT", nil looks like "REPEAT", "REPEAT" to me |
| 22:14.14 | TheDanW | pass in MIRROR, nil and you'll get MIRROR, REPEAT |
| 22:15.22 | foxlit | while MIRROR, C'THULU gets me MIRROR, MIRROR. Amusing. |
| 22:15.52 | TheDanW | sounds about right |
| 22:25.53 | foxlit | ; horizTile : Boolean - If true, texture coordinates will be adjusted such that the texture displays at its source resolution (cropped or repeated as necessary). |
| 22:26.57 | Thunder_Child | Now you are just twisting the knife in Dan. |
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| 22:37.07 | foxlit | yeah, that description is also wrong. |
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| 22:38.57 | foxlit | a 64x64 image will appear twice when tiled in a 128x64 Texture, regardless of the effective scale of that Texture. |
| 22:39.53 | foxlit | I can't think of what to call the units for the unscaled widget size. |
| 22:40.40 | nevcairiel | seems like thats entirely expected that its independent of scaling? anything else would probably feel rather weird |
| 22:41.51 | foxlit | well, "tile this texture at its native resolution within this box" is a reasonable thing to ask |
| 22:41.58 | nevcairiel | anyhow both units are called pixel, i wouldnt obsess too much about it |
| 22:42.29 | TheDanW | texels and ui units are what i call them |
| 22:44.41 | nevcairiel | speaking of scaling, I almost broke my brain the other day making my draggable map nodes work with the 10 levels of scaling the world map now goes through |
| 22:48.04 | MiRai | nevcairiel: Are you going to maintain Mapster moving into BFA, and, if so, will you be bringing back the option to remove the border in minimized mode? |
| 22:48.17 | MiRai | I really miss that feature |
| 22:48.36 | nevcairiel | doubtful, that option hasnt existed for years and i dont really want it anymore |
| 22:49.06 | MiRai | Is there a technical limitation, or just a personal reason? |
| 22:49.46 | nevcairiel | i just have no interest in it, and it always was quite intrusive, so when it broke badly i removed it and that was that |
| 22:50.13 | MiRai | I see. Well, that's unfortunate. :) |
| 22:51.35 | nevcairiel | the map contains protected elements now which l imits what you can do in combat |
| 22:52.20 | nevcairiel | as a consequence the mini mode doesnt even exist anymore, since you wouldnt be able to un-mini it in combat and not access your questlog |
| 22:52.52 | nebula | what's protected? |
| 22:53.01 | nevcairiel | that stupid WQ complete button |
| 22:53.19 | nevcairiel | such a dumb feature to break the map :p |
| 22:53.25 | nebula | oh, i thought TheDanW changed that to the unprotected can only click on it while not in combat button |
| 22:53.40 | foxlit | protip: murder that button |
| 22:53.42 | nevcairiel | you cant really taint it so easily anymore from those changes |
| 22:53.51 | nevcairiel | but it still makes the map protected |
| 22:54.09 | foxlit | (but seriously, unanchor it from everything and replace it with a docile unprotected one) |
| 22:54.11 | nebula | InsecureActionButtonTemplate ! |
| 22:54.19 | nebula | but it's not actually protected? |
| 22:54.44 | nebula | (unless it was changed to something else) |
| 22:55.28 | nevcairiel | well something related to it is |
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| 22:55.50 | nevcairiel | i managed to break the fullscreen/windowed button in combat |
| 22:56.26 | nebula | i hate accidentally hitting the fullscreen button, it fucks with the game res or something |
| 22:57.33 | nevcairiel | if someone really wanted the mini worldmap, one could much more easily make a new one though, although it wouldnt show addon-provided data |
| 22:58.50 | foxlit | [it doesn't actually inherit from SecureFrameTemplate anymore in 8] |
| 22:59.02 | nebula | oh right, it uses secureMixin |
| 22:59.24 | foxlit | that's only tangentially related. |
| 22:59.39 | nevcairiel | i'm certain i had protection errors from using the maximize/minimize button from something |
| 23:00.02 | foxlit | WorldMapFrame:IsProtected() == false |
| 23:03.19 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt write code to disable the min/max button in combat if it didnt error before =p |
| 23:05.49 | TheDanW | i removed protections for it |
| 23:05.56 | TheDanW | the map should be unprotected on beta right now |
| 23:06.14 | nevcairiel | like, semi-recently? |
| 23:07.05 | foxlit | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/beta/WorldMapFrameTemplates.xml/diff |
| 23:07.13 | nevcairiel | I wrote this June 9, it definitely errored then |
| 23:07.33 | nevcairiel | so just this last build then? |
| 23:07.38 | foxlit | no |
| 23:07.58 | foxlit | (8.0.1.27026; unchanged since 8.0.1.26936) -> built on 2018-06-26 |
| 23:08.09 | nevcairiel | well still after i wrote this |
| 23:08.11 | nevcairiel | well t hen |
| 23:08.23 | Constie | Maybe foxlit just told you it would error and you foolishly trusted. |
| 23:08.49 | nevcairiel | never trust the foxlit |
| 23:09.25 | foxlit | how slanderous. |
| 23:10.21 | TheDanW | was recent, but the time between my commit and it going to beta is somewhat variable |
| 23:13.00 | nevcairiel | that solves one minor headache at least |
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| 23:19.28 | Tentacled | Sigh. Random thought. I wish Ironforge's end of Deeprun Tram would finally get a zone of its own. |
| 23:20.29 | nevcairiel | zoning in the middle of it would be rather awkward |
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| 23:20.52 | Tentacled | And speaking of zones - why are some micros micros, and some micros are "dungeon"-type maps? Is there a rule to this? Like, Deeprun is a dungeon, so is Dalaran and Cleft of Shadow... I thought it'd be just a few, but noo. (And I think I brought this up before. Meh. I'm going senile.) |
| 23:21.19 | nevcairiel | they should've just put in the effort to actually make the deeprun tram real |
| 23:21.24 | nevcairiel | no zoning at all |
| 23:21.27 | Tentacled | Zoning, schmoning, it's just a player coordinate returning a different zone number... |
| 23:21.33 | nevcairiel | i w onder if it would've fit |
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| 23:21.54 | Tentacled | Coords like 800,50 in Deeprun are quite fun. :> |
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| 23:25.06 | foxlit | it's less a tram and more a dedicated instance server for the brawls. |
| 23:25.21 | Tentacled | Brawltram. |
| 23:25.35 | Tentacled | AKA New York metro. |
| 23:26.29 | Tentacled | Oh, and I added onEnterFunc and onLeaveFunc to my fork of UIDropDownMenu. Quite useful if you're up for more than just tooltips for the hovered button. |
| 23:31.49 | foxlit | Tentacled: MasterPlan just did this: https://pastebin.com/ApQ0P4PH |
| 23:39.32 | Chipzz | Tentacled: maybe it's just different artist/programmers working on different zones and using different solutions to the same problem? |
| 23:40.00 | Chipzz | lack of coordination wouldn't surprise me |
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| 23:42.51 | Chipzz | foxlit: did you write MasterPlan? awesome addon, still using it today :) |
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| 23:48.04 | foxlit | yes, I did. |
| 23:48.47 | Chipzz | MasterPlan >> OHC |
| 23:48.55 | Mr_Rabies | don't feed his ego, he can only take so much more before he becomes some kind of jrpg boss |
| 23:49.03 | Chipzz | OHC is such a clusterfuck of bad :( |
| 23:50.05 | Constie | What do you get from garrison missions now? |
| 23:50.14 | Mr_Rabies | the ohc guy has a good knack for coming up with good ideas, implementing them about 60% of the way, and then never finishing/fixing them, often vanishing for months |
| 23:50.19 | Chipzz | mount/heirloom/pet |
| 23:50.36 | Chipzz | what I hate most about OHC is it's "UI" |
| 23:50.54 | Chipzz | the guy tried to cram as much (often pointless) functionality into one window |
| 23:51.11 | Chipzz | it just looks fucking ugly |
| 23:51.15 | Mr_Rabies | one of his other addons, mailcommander, is very similar |
| 23:51.29 | Chipzz | dunno about mailcommandor |
| 23:51.33 | Chipzz | I use Postal myself |
| 23:51.35 | Mr_Rabies | it also has a neat feature where it has a hardcoded keyboard shortcut that replaces one built into wow |
| 23:51.35 | foxlit | someone had an order hall thing that looked nice |
| 23:51.47 | Mr_Rabies | that does -nothing- |
| 23:52.03 | Chipzz | foxlit: how come you didn't write an OH addon for MP? |
| 23:52.18 | nebula | careful now, he might cut you |
| 23:52.24 | Chipzz | foxlit: given that the shipyard was easy to implement, I doubt it would have been a *huge* effort? |
| 23:52.34 | Mr_Rabies | i use this one https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/standardframesenhanced-orderhall |
| 23:52.57 | Mr_Rabies | basically just a slightly better interface with little impact on performance |
| 23:53.14 | Mr_Rabies | no real logic in making missions, but that's not really necessary anymore as of late legion |
| 23:53.15 | Chipzz | haven't noticed any performance issues with OHC |
| 23:53.16 | foxlit | acidweb has this: https://media.forgecdn.net/attachments/218/39/2.png |
| 23:54.54 | nebula | mine is simple, too, https://media.forgecdn.net/attachments/111/574/Wow-64_2016-10-26_16-59-17.jpg |
| 23:55.00 | foxlit | there are a lot of minor annoyances to doing it properly, and the default UI was adequate with the reduced number of champions limiting the number of missions you can start at any one time. |
| 23:55.31 | Constie | Doesn't seem like very useful extra information, at least for me. |
| 23:55.59 | nebula | just so you can see the missions you can do without mousing over them |
| 23:56.10 | foxlit | I mean, it'd be nice if they fixed the temporary buff items to not switch to followers page and forget all about your current mission group |
| 23:56.41 | Chipzz | it'ld be nice if they (Blizzard)'ld fix the default follower information :P |
| 23:56.54 | Chipzz | lots of messed up follower info |
| 23:58.14 | foxlit | I think OH missions just went full "fuck you, I calculate success chance however I want!" mode. |
