| 00:03.05 | Chipzz | 18:16 < nevcairiel> It's not like it allows for a I don't want cookies option, other then closing your browser -> if you want to be pedantic about it, there's actually 2 things you can do; 1) use web inspector to remove the bloody diff 2) write a greasemonkey script to do it for you automatically ;) |
| 00:03.17 | Chipzz | I hav actually done the first in the past :P |
| 00:03.45 | Chipzz | greasemonkey FTW btw :) |
| 00:03.51 | Chipzz | <3 |
| 00:06.55 | nevcairiel | the important cookies are exempt anyway, if they have to ask its basically for ad tracking cookies =p |
| 00:07.44 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: considering that rikers lives in the US, I don't think it matters |
| 00:08.04 | MentalPower | (necro response from the GDPR stuff earlier) |
| 00:08.07 | Funkeh` | i don't think not being in the EU makes you immune? |
| 00:08.10 | nevcairiel | country of residence is irrelevant |
| 00:08.25 | MentalPower | EU law doesn't apply in the US |
| 00:08.34 | nevcairiel | your view of the world is naive :) |
| 00:08.40 | MentalPower | and there's no treaty that extends GDPR to the US |
| 00:08.48 | nevcairiel | if you collect data about EU citiizens, it applies to you |
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| 00:08.57 | MentalPower | sue me? |
| 00:08.57 | Chipzz | MentalPower: neither does the US law apply in the EU, and yet I see the CIA meddling constantly |
| 00:09.29 | Chipzz | MentalPower: unfortunately, the world isn't as simple as you portray it to be |
| 00:09.32 | MentalPower | US tech companies that have EU presence definitely need to apply GDPR controls |
| 00:09.40 | Chipzz | there's still things like international treaties |
| 00:09.54 | MentalPower | " and there's no treaty that extends GDPR to the US" |
| 00:10.09 | Chipzz | there doesn't need to be IMO |
| 00:10.17 | MentalPower | based on? |
| 00:10.29 | Chipzz | there's also no treaty that extends arbitrary laws |
| 00:10.58 | Chipzz | but yet when an American is gonna be hung by some middle-eastern justice systen they still intervene |
| 00:11.19 | Chipzz | that's because countries agree to respect each other's laws |
| 00:11.39 | Chipzz | and then there's Trump, but Trump will be Trump I suppose |
| 00:11.42 | MentalPower | no, that's just diplomacy |
| 00:11.56 | Chipzz | exactly the point |
| 00:11.57 | MentalPower | I'd rather you take this person and not cause an international event |
| 00:12.12 | MentalPower | with the proviso that they never return |
| 00:12.14 | Chipzz | what you do think the EU is gonna do when the USA gives them the finger in applying the GDPR? |
| 00:12.30 | Chipzz | shut down a lot of trade deals that are benificial to the USA is what |
| 00:12.34 | MentalPower | For random people/sites/stuff? Nothing |
| 00:12.36 | Chipzz | you need to get a grip on reality mate |
| 00:12.57 | Funkeh` | TheDanW: could you shine some light on this? reason for the change/what is it fixing, does it return different results? https://github.com/tomrus88/BlizzardInterfaceCode/commit/5865f89f9bf948aac1513abe26e6f7094c7ab104#diff-739dd88b20352cbb8ba8a3117424b232R211 |
| 00:12.57 | MentalPower | For people/sites/stuff that also has a foot in EU, sue them out of existence |
| 00:13.21 | nevcairiel | The EU-U.S. "Privacy Shield" negotiations actually put concepts in place for the EU to fine US companies if need be, not to mention general good will and cooperation agreements between the US and the EU |
| 00:13.52 | Chipzz | MentalPower: IMO you have a complete grasp of understanding on interational politics, and have no further interest in continuing this conversation with you. bb and gn |
| 00:14.03 | Chipzz | *complete lack of grasp |
| 00:14.05 | Chipzz | or whatever |
| 00:15.15 | MentalPower | No, I'm just trying to explain that it'll be a very long time (if ever) before Purls logs go away due to GDPR |
| 00:15.18 | Funkeh` | why are you getting upset over a trivial debate |
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| 00:19.31 | MentalPower | yep, copyright is very special |
| 00:19.42 | Chipzz | that's how a lot of things work when it comes to international diplomacy |
| 00:19.43 | MentalPower | there's a ton of treaties about it, mostly exporting the DMCA (which sucks) |
| 00:20.12 | TheDanW | Funkeh`: the map change? C_Map.GetBestMapForUnit will return nil if it can't find a map for that unit, MapUtil.GetDisplayableMapForPlayer will uses a fallback map if so |
| 00:20.16 | MentalPower | There's not a whole lot about the stuff the GDPR covers (yet) |
| 00:21.01 | Chipzz | but you know what is a much more interesting thing about the GDPR? that it actually conflicts with other laws which *require* you to keep IP addresses to identify people in case of a crime |
| 00:21.21 | Funkeh` | TheDanW: the only time I noticed it return nil was if you were loading and tried to query it before ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA fired, so won't be a concern for us, cheers for the explanation |
| 00:21.28 | Chipzz | would be funny when law enforement is at your door "pls to be giving IP address of hax0rs" and you're "I can't because of GDPR" |
| 00:22.10 | Chipzz | nevcairiel: foxlit ^^^ that is a much more interesting thought experiment wrt GDPR |
| 00:23.01 | nevcairiel | not really, you can log stuff like that for security/legal purposes, just not indefinitely and with controlled access |
| 00:23.23 | Chipzz | and I think it boils down to: you don't need to delete webserver logs since they are used for debugging, not for commercial purposes |
| 00:24.20 | Chipzz | there's a world of difference between "apache logs because apache logs by default (to a file which is a pain to parse compared to a database) and "My PHP script logs your IP and other information subnitted on a form into a DB that can be easily usd for commercial purposes" |
| 00:24.59 | Chipzz | my reading would be the spirit of the GDPR to be applying to the latter, not the former |
| 00:25.01 | nevcairiel | yet webserver logs must still be controlled |
| 00:25.11 | nevcairiel | just because you dont use them doesnt mean you can just keep them piling up |
| 00:25.46 | nevcairiel | at the very least you need to delete them (or anonomize them if you want to) after a certain period of time |
| 00:26.55 | Chipzz | so you need to set logrotate to delete them after 12 weeks instead of after whatever the default is. big deal :) |
| 00:27.14 | Stanzilla | (4 weeks) |
| 00:27.30 | Chipzz | (number totally made up) |
| 00:27.41 | Stanzilla | (I realize that) |
| 00:28.24 | Chipzz | and controlled is a relative term anyway :) |
| 00:28.49 | nevcairiel | bulk collection of connection data on an ISP level was just shut down in courts again about a month ago around here, btw |
| 00:29.00 | Chipzz | I can control them in a manner my saled team has access to them |
| 00:29.05 | nevcairiel | i wonder if they'll just remove that law again now that its failed multiple times in courts |
| 00:29.17 | Chipzz | (not that I ever would, I hate sales people with a passion, but... :P ) |
| 00:29.40 | Chipzz | *sales team |
| 00:30.31 | nevcairiel | the ISPs specifically argued in court that saving connection data would violate EU law, so the court exempt them from that requirement |
| 00:32.18 | Funkeh` | well shit |
| 00:33.41 | nevcairiel | so either the law makers get rid of that law now, or maybe the constitutional court takes up that topic and removes the law for them =p |
| 00:49.08 | pnorman | With logs you just need to say how long you're retaining them for, who has access, and it needs to be remotely defensible. If you get a court order to hand them over to law enforcement, you have to hand them over, and other laws might set minimum retention times, but I'm not aware of anything that would require HTTP server logs to be kept forever |
| 00:51.47 | Semlar | standard server logs have nothing to do with the gdpr |
| 00:53.37 | Semlar | you need to be logging data that can be tied directly to an individual person |
| 01:00.18 | TheDanW | nevcairiel: i tracked down the bug with backdrops btw, should be fixed soon(tm) - it had to do with anchoring changes |
| 01:00.41 | Semlar | how come i'm not in the beta yet |
| 01:01.21 | Semlar | are you worried that i'll take the servers down |
| 01:02.53 | TheDanW | does seem likely |
| 01:04.50 | Semlar | someone was asking me if i was going to update one of my map addons for bfa |
| 01:05.13 | Semlar | and i had to tell them i have no idea what needs to be changed for it |
| 01:05.53 | TheDanW | everything, probably |
| 01:10.29 | Semlar | i'm guessing there isn't a way to get the internal name for an instance/continent, like "expansion01" for the outland map |
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| 01:22.06 | Simca | there used to be |
| 01:22.10 | Simca | not sure anymore |
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| 02:21.13 | Torhal | TheDanW: Awesome, regarding backdrops. That's been an occasional nuisance for awhile. The first time I loaded the BfA alpha, actually, it was doing it in places where I don't even think backdrops exist (buttons, for example) in the Character Creation screen. |
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| 08:26.12 | nevcairiel | TheDanW: neat, then i dont need to worry about that anymore |
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| 10:32.46 | nevcairiel | these mixins sure are useful. I was trying to take over a UI component but that was causing too much taint, so instead I can just hide the original and create a new one with 4 lines of code, neat |
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| 10:57.12 | Funkeh` | https://twitter.com/mtfarnsworth/status/999765110334746624 |
| 11:03.56 | nevcairiel | i wonder if people get equally crazy if you butt dial someone |
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| 11:13.24 | Funkeh` | can you lock your alexa against listening? |
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| 11:13.59 | Kalroth | use a large hammer |
| 11:14.12 | Funkeh` | the only thing it's good for |
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| 11:40.37 | Funkeh` | thanks GDPR, already had success getting my "disabled" account completely erased "within the next 30 days" from one company |
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| 11:50.23 | Funkeh` | Now to hunt down other websites that merely "disable" your account when you want rid of it |
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| 12:44.17 | AcidWeb | After GDPR update my Battle.NET client don't save my password anymore ð |
| 12:49.14 | Funkeh` | having a similar issue |
| 12:49.25 | Funkeh` | does it say session expired? |
| 12:50.01 | AcidWeb | yeah |
| 12:50.48 | Funkeh` | i thought it was a one time only thing to accept the new terms but they may have busted it |
| 12:52.30 | AcidWeb | well everytime when I enter forums I see this empy EULA box so something is probably borked ð |
| 12:53.29 | Funkeh` | there just isn't a eula anymore, ffa! |
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| 14:10.44 | Funkeh` | https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/05/valve-apple-wont-let-the-steam-link-app-on-the-ios/ |
| 14:13.41 | [TOM_RUS] | poor apple, no one with a little brain uses theirs garbage hard and software anyways |
| 14:14.56 | Funkeh` | I was tempted to buy an iPad due to the lack of android tablets |
| 14:15.06 | Funkeh` | Apple is now safely on my "never buy" list |
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| 15:21.48 | Tentacled | Either my math is VERY rusty, or there's something wrong with C_Map.GetWorldPosFromMapPos(). It's confusing its x with y. |
| 15:22.30 | Tentacled | Is no-one using this function, or did I just discover an elephant in the room, or am I just retarded? :> |
| 15:23.46 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel might have used it. He seems to have fondled all of the map API's. |
| 15:24.26 | Tentacled | I mean, /dump {C_Map.GetWorldPosFromMapPos(1,{x=0,y=0})},{C_Map.GetWorldPosFromMapPos(1,{x=1,y=0})} - when I'm moving x from 0 to 1 I'm not expecting the y values of the result to change. |
| 15:28.09 | nevcairiel | Tentacled: it figured its the same weirdo logic that has UnitPosition return y,x instead of x,y |
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| 15:28.39 | nevcairiel | maybe the world is just laying on its side |
| 15:29.17 | Tentacled | UnitPosition returns a bunch of numbers, they could be in any weird order. GWPFMP returns named fields, in response to named fields. :> |
| 15:29.37 | nevcairiel | If you want to map it to those named fields tho, it return y,x :p |
| 15:29.43 | nevcairiel | which is just weird |
| 15:29.52 | Tentacled | Yup. |
| 15:30.05 | nevcairiel | incidentally, you can do like CreateVector2D(UnitPosition("player")) and it would be correct! |
| 15:30.15 | Tentacled | What. |
| 15:30.32 | Tentacled | With y/x upright? |
| 15:31.01 | nevcairiel | with correct I mean you get the appropriate results when you pass it to GetMapPosFromWorldPos |
| 15:31.54 | Tentacled | Crazy. |
| 15:32.05 | nevcairiel | in other news, whats with the broken login in the b.net client |
| 15:32.20 | nevcairiel | not only that I need to login again all the time, most of the time the login doesnt even work |
| 15:32.33 | nevcairiel | i get some broken loading screen and nothing happens |
| 15:33.39 | Tentacled | Is your hamster gnawing on your ethernet cable again? |
| 15:34.13 | nevcairiel | that would be unexpected considering i have no hamster |
| 15:35.09 | Tentacled | Some people say they have no STDs. Just sayin'. |
| 15:35.58 | nevcairiel | anyhow I just assumed that x,y are flipped intentionally because UnitPosition also returns them in that "weird" order, but you could ask TheDanW if the world coordinate system is somehow unexpectedly on its side |
| 15:37.27 | nevcairiel | mixing right handed and left handed coordinate systems is unfortunately something that happens in 3D worlds |
| 15:38.28 | nevcairiel | hm although that would probably not explain that |
| 15:38.53 | Tentacled | That would result in negative coords and mirroring, not in rotation. |
| 15:40.02 | nevcairiel | basically the poles are actually to the sides of azeroth, i should post that on MMO-C to get more controversy into those map threads |
| 15:40.27 | Tentacled | :D |
| 15:42.05 | Torhal | Funkeh`: The Echo has a button you can press to disable the microphones, which turns the light ring red as well. |
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| 16:03.13 | Tentacled | nevcairiel: Just for the heck of it I built a zone-to-zone coordinate translator that caches specific zone-pair translation scales and offsets, letting me calculate them only once per zone pair - afterwards it's one multiplication and one addition per coord. As a result it's 2.5x faster than HBD:TranslateZoneCoordinates. Not that speed matters A LOT... :D |
| 16:12.24 | nevcairiel | yeah but you get a lot of potential combinations as well |
| 16:13.12 | Tentacled | All cached. |
| 16:14.11 | nevcairiel | its not like I couldnt implement something like that if someone cared enough about a difference in microseconds or so |
| 16:14.12 | Tentacled | I don't think it's likely that a player will try to convert from all dungeons to all other dungeons, though. |
| 16:14.21 | nevcairiel | those are impossible anyway |
| 16:14.32 | Tentacled | I never said you couldn't, I'm just saying it was a fun idea. :) |
| 16:14.33 | nevcairiel | no shared world |
| 16:15.53 | Tentacled | I was entertaining the idea of inventing some crazy over-world coord space that would allow me to show ant trails between Azeroth-the-globe and Outland on the Cosmic map, but... can I be assed......? |
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| 16:33.33 | nevcairiel | getting any half-accurate points is probably impossible anyway so you might as well just do center to center trails =p |
| 16:43.59 | Funkeh` | sent like 10 emails now to various companies that would previously only "disable" accounts instead of delete them, this is fun |
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| 16:50.37 | foxlit | expected result: in about a month, you'll get an email response requesting you to send them a signed physical letter with additional personal information to authenticate that you're the actual owner of those accounts. |
| 16:50.54 | Funkeh` | nothing like that so far |
| 16:53.23 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: The hope is they are at least matching the sent email to the account email for validation. |
| 16:53.46 | Funkeh` | yeah that's wha tim doing |
| 16:55.33 | Funkeh` | it also helps that they fuciking sent GDPR emails to those "disabled" accounts |
| 16:56.37 | Thunder_Child | Although I suspect they are still not deleting the accounts, just removing the PII stuff. |
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| 17:17.58 | sylvanaar | anyone want to volunteer translations for Prat's new achievements module? |
| 17:19.05 | Funkeh` | what do achievements have to do with chat |
| 17:19.51 | sylvanaar | they occur there |
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| 18:01.49 | nimhfree | what would have to be translated? arenât the messages that happen with achievements already localized by Blizzard? |
| 18:20.00 | sylvanaar | grats messages |
| 18:20.32 | sylvanaar | and a couple others |
| 18:23.01 | Infus | TheDanW: a while back you mentioned wanting to add a UnitAura spell name replacement, any news on that? |
| 18:24.20 | nevcairiel | you know that would just be in Lua, so you could probably just do the same thing :) |
| 18:27.26 | sylvanaar | It's been a while for me - but where has globalstrings.lua gone? |
| 18:30.19 | Funkeh` | it's still there? |
| 18:30.25 | Torhal | sylvanaar: It's been internal for quite some time now, but here's an extraction: https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/live/GlobalStrings.lua |
| 18:30.48 | sylvanaar | thanks Torhal |
| 18:34.10 | nimhfree | For the QUEST_ACCEPTED event the first parameter used to be the index you could pass into GetQuestLogTitle(), and the second is the questId. I have been checking and the first parameter is now 0 all the time. Is this an error? |
| 18:38.41 | nimhfree | I am guessing this could be related to the fact that the quest log is not updating properly |
| 18:43.34 | zenzelezz | are you saying its reliability is questionable? |
| 18:44.11 | nimhfree | it was working fine up to the latest release |
| 18:46.29 | nevcairiel | on live or beta? |
| 18:48.23 | nimhfree | beta |
| 18:49.47 | nimhfree | nevcairiel: have you made progress on enhancing HBD for map pins in beta? |
| 19:14.12 | Tentacled | I wonder if the map zooming by scrollwheel is going to get fixed, or stay weird forever :/ |
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| 19:18.00 | nevcairiel | nimhfree: the pins should be fine |
| 19:18.18 | nevcairiel | although for world map pins i would recommend to not use it |
| 19:18.22 | Torhal | Tentacled: Despite it being horrible for years, I'm still somehow surprised every time I try to use it. |
| 19:23.04 | nimhfree | I am trying to put pins onto the world map |
| 19:23.20 | Tentacled | Be like me. Do it by hand. <_< |
| 19:23.27 | Tentacled | ... what she said. |
| 19:23.44 | Torhal | Reported! |
| 19:23.54 | Tentacled | Woe. |
| 19:25.35 | nevcairiel | nimhfree: then use a data provider, its probably even easier then using HBD |
| 19:26.39 | Tentacled | But if you're me and love full maps of marching ants, you're not going to love data providers' waste. |
| 20:47.51 | sylvanaar | was trying guildster - doesn't work at all - anyone else? |
| 20:50.39 | sylvanaar | looked cool |
| 20:52.12 | sylvanaar | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jhHJzMTs/ |
| 20:54.35 | sylvanaar | how hard was it to add a default for nil |
| 20:54.39 | sylvanaar | geez |
| 21:18.29 | Torhal | I'd rather have the error, so I can see my logic is off somewhere and fix it. |
| 21:26.40 | sylvanaar | i mean - that was the thing - it didn't supply a default for when it first ran |
| 21:27.34 | nevcairiel | The first line of the addon page states thats its an indevelopment version, so get off your high horse :p |
| 21:28.03 | sylvanaar | what - you would say the same thing nev, i have no doubt |
| 21:28.26 | nevcairiel | nah i would just delete it |
| 21:28.30 | sylvanaar | or that |
| 21:28.36 | sylvanaar | cool addon though |
| 21:28.38 | nevcairiel | in fact i would never have tried it since i dont even know why i would want to |
| 21:31.05 | sylvanaar | Its the 15 minutes of fame addon on wowI was checking it out |
| 21:31.56 | sylvanaar | plus as it happens I am looking for a guild too |
| 21:32.45 | nevcairiel | Not sure any half-series guild I would be looking for uses the ingame tool |
| 21:32.49 | nevcairiel | serious* |
| 21:33.04 | nevcairiel | but as we get closer to bfa l aunch i should find an active guild as well |
| 21:33.57 | sylvanaar | I am behind the gear curve - so I gotta take what I can get |
| 21:34.19 | nevcairiel | thats why expansions launches are a good time to do that anyway |
| 21:34.21 | nevcairiel | noone cares then |
| 21:34.46 | sylvanaar | genau |
| 22:16.37 | Funkeh` | "We will proceed to delete your account and information in the coming days. We will follow up with an email to you when we're done." |
| 22:16.43 | Funkeh` | still going good so far foxlit |
| 22:17.44 | Thunder_Child | How could they follow up with an email if they have deleted all PII? |
| 22:18.01 | Funkeh` | There's a little reply button next to the email |
| 22:18.27 | Thunder_Child | That means email is exempt from purge. |
| 22:18.43 | Funkeh` | Technically I didn't ask them to delete the email |
| 22:18.56 | Funkeh` | I can do that when they reply that its done |
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| 22:40.35 | Simca | kind of concerned trolls will use GDPR as a method to attack smaller sites and forums |
| 22:41.26 | Simca | requesting full data zips and then (after you make them pull it all) full data deletion is the kind of operation that's pretty extensive and annoying if you aren't well prepared to handle it (and small forums aren't, obviously) |
| 22:43.51 | Tentacled | So this is a quickly hacked together attempt at fixing the map zoom - the math isn't straight yet, but I'd appreciate if someone took this for a spin and tell me whether the map mousewheel zoom works better or worse with this. https://www.hastebin.com/luzucicuja.php |
| 22:43.52 | Maldivia | Simca: and the GDPR gives them the rights to ignore them then :D |
| 22:44.38 | Maldivia | Simca: also, the GDPR allows them to require compensation for the data dumps |
| 22:46.33 | sylvanaar | just ban people from the EU |
| 22:46.44 | sylvanaar | :D |
| 22:48.22 | sylvanaar | das war ein witz |
| 22:48.52 | Stanzilla | some sites that just that |
| 22:48.55 | Stanzilla | *did |
| 22:50.29 | Maldivia | you mean like latimes.com ? |
| 22:51.00 | Tentacled | "Content not available in your country due to GDPR" wave incoming? |
| 22:51.39 | Maldivia | https://gdprhallofshame.com/13-what-if-we-did-nothing/ :) |
| 22:51.44 | Maldivia | Tentacled: already there |
| 22:53.39 | foxlit | Simca: what kind of small forums are run by organizations? |
| 22:54.04 | Simca | you have no idea how small 'organizations' get in the US |
| 22:54.13 | Simca | or how trivially people create them |
| 22:54.26 | Simca | some 1 person-run forums are probably eligible |
| 22:57.28 | foxlit | seems doubtful. |
| 22:57.48 | Simca | it's not, i've run into a lot of them |
| 22:58.44 | Simca | it will probably provide an argument to not create an organization. currently, there's almost always a benefit to doing it because US tax law is nice to small business. |
| 22:59.04 | foxlit | If your small forum is a profit-making enterprise, you can cry me a river :) |
| 22:59.05 | Simca | there was never any consideration before like 'but it makes you vulnerable to european data regulation laws' |
| 22:59.23 | Funkeh` | wouldn't these forums usually be powered by a common software platform that can implement account deletion? |
| 22:59.52 | Simca | probably. not sure what forum software is super common these days |
| 23:01.06 | foxlit | otherwise, it seems like a straightforward argument that a forum isn't specifically targetting or profiling europeans, in which case you have no obligations. |
| 23:01.14 | Funkeh` | haven't used the admin side of one in a while, would like to think they all let admins delete accounts |
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| 23:01.52 | Simca | yeah accounts, but it's probably not cascading. would need to hit posts, infractions, warnings, bans, ip history, etc |
| 23:02.25 | Funkeh` | hmm, yeah I guess it depends on what extent that is implemented |
| 23:02.56 | Funkeh` | but I would say that's teh responsibility of the developers to implement |
| 23:04.01 | Thunder_Child | Except the onus to follow GDPR is on the owner. |
| 23:04.58 | Funkeh` | The onus for everything is on the owner when running a forum |
| 23:05.18 | Funkeh` | it's teh responsibility of the developer to enable the owner to do what they please |
| 23:18.16 | nimhfree | I thought GDPR did not allow charging for first data dump of your information from a company. after the first, charges can be made. |
| 23:19.27 | foxlit | ico says "In most cases you cannot charge a fee to comply with a subject access request. However, as noted above, where the request is manifestly unfounded or excessive you may charge a âreasonable feeâ for the administrative costs of complying with the request." |
| 23:19.47 | nimhfree | sylvanaar: wowâ¦.first German I have seen here in a while. I miss German. ð |
| 23:20.12 | Funkeh` | wat this channel has too many germans |
| 23:21.13 | pnorman | A US-based forum collecting information on EU citizens falls under the GDPR, but there probably isn't any practical consequence to ignoring it if you don't do anything in the EU. If you have no revenue or assets in Europe, they'd have to domesticate a court order to do anything. |
| 23:22.14 | pnorman | Most of the stuff that people associate with the GDPR isn't really new. The right to get a data dump? Already exists in many cases. |
| 23:23.12 | Funkeh` | what right did you have to data erasure? |
| 23:26.55 | pnorman | PIPEDA gives me that right. https://mcmillan.ca/The-Internet-Never-Forgets-Google-Incs-right-to-be-forgotten-EU-ruling-and-its-implications-in-Canada |
| 23:29.50 | pnorman | Sure, GDPR goes farther and puts it into one framework, but most of the reviews around practices that GDPR has triggered that I've seen have involved lack of notice that's questionable under current laws |
| 23:32.51 | Funkeh` | https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/25/google-facebook-already-accused-violating-gdpr-laws/ |
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