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| 01:13.23 | nevcairiel | addons are in in the alpha as of this build |
| 01:13.32 | nevcairiel | s/on/in/ |
| 01:13.41 | nevcairiel | damn wrong way |
| 01:13.45 | nevcairiel | anyway you get it! |
| 01:14.02 | Thunder_Child | Poor Nev. |
| 01:15.15 | nebula | :o |
| 01:20.26 | nevcairiel | oh they also bumped the interface to 80000 in the process |
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| 01:35.15 | [TOM_RUS] | addons enabled are cool, no longer need to hack my way through to get them working |
| 01:40.11 | tz | woooooo :D |
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| 04:38.46 | Bluipodcow | Complete |
| 04:38.49 | Bluipodcow | Me |
| 04:54.31 | Mr_Rabies|away | okay lets see how broken my addons are in bfa |
| 04:57.06 | Mr_Rabies | oh really broken |
| 04:57.07 | Mr_Rabies | neat |
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| 05:12.56 | Mr_Rabies | well good my one addon that's got a toc for wrath i think still works, though |
| 05:13.25 | Mr_Rabies | i may have edited the toc at some point, i think eventually the client just refused to work with tocs before a certain version |
| 06:20.18 | Ellypse | I've got a lot of "Error loading someFile.lua" but the file is actually loaded and its code is executed. Also the new XML errors could really use line numbers :P |
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| 07:12.15 | Aftermathh | Hey, AddOns went live on Alpha! Will there be a forum up soon? :-) |
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| 07:35.31 | VIad | it's kind of weird, usually addons are enabled mid/end of beta, so I guess alpha is the new beta. |
| 07:35.53 | nevcairiel | addons went live in legion alpha as well |
| 07:36.09 | nevcairiel | so your "usually" is just outdated =p |
| 07:40.48 | Aftermathh | Alpha is Beta :) |
| 07:40.56 | Aftermathh | They have said that now since Legion Alpha |
| 07:41.37 | nevcairiel | Whatever your definition of those words, they seem to more closely follow the industry definition of those terms now, Beta = Feature Complete, more bugfixing/tuning |
| 07:42.20 | nevcairiel | Before Legion, it was more like Alpha = Closed F&F, Beta = random player invites |
| 07:42.52 | nevcairiel | regardless of development state |
| 07:46.11 | nevcairiel | anyhow there is work to be done now and addons to be fixed! |
| 07:46.37 | Aftermathh | Yup |
| 07:46.47 | Aftermathh | Almost fixed everything though |
| 07:46.58 | Aftermathh | Besides oUF that's something i really can't :P |
| 07:49.33 | Aftermathh | Those things that are affected the most is UnitAura |
| 07:49.43 | nevcairiel | that should fix pretty easily tho |
| 07:49.50 | nevcairiel | but its a pita to track them all down |
| 07:50.02 | Aftermathh | yeah |
| 07:50.05 | Aftermathh | and GetPetActionInfo was changed |
| 07:50.13 | Aftermathh | local Name, Texture, IsToken, IsActive, AutoCastAllowed, AutoCastEnabled, SpellID, ChecksRange, InRange = GetPetActionInfo(i) |
| 07:50.42 | nevcairiel | return value changes are so annoying, can result in subtle breakages you dont find until much later :p |
| 07:51.04 | Shockah | how did UnitAura change? |
| 07:51.15 | Aftermathh | local name, texture, count, debuffType, duration, expirationTime, _, _, _, spellId, _, _, _, _, timeMod = UnitAura(unit, index, filter) |
| 07:51.18 | Aftermathh | New one |
| 07:51.25 | nevcairiel | also dropped a return value |
| 07:51.45 | nevcairiel | there used to be "ranK" after name |
| 07:51.52 | nevcairiel | all the APIs that had it dropped it |
| 07:51.52 | Aftermathh | local Name, Rank, Texture, Count, DispelType, Duration, ExpirationTime, Caster, IsStealable, _, SpellID, CanApplyAura, IsBossDebuff, _, _, _, _, _, _ = UnitAura(self:GetParent():GetAttribute("unit"), index, self.Filter) |
| 07:51.53 | Aftermathh | old |
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| 07:52.26 | Aftermathh | There's just a few moved / removed |
| 07:52.37 | Aftermathh | But ez fixed |
| 07:57.15 | Aftermathh | My only issue right now really |
| 07:57.16 | Aftermathh | https://cubeupload.com/im/TULcOI.png |
| 07:57.19 | Aftermathh | :< |
| 08:04.01 | nevcairiel | i dont get it |
| 08:06.40 | nevcairiel | the new xp bar in the way or what? |
| 08:13.52 | Ellypse | Try StatusTrackingBarManager:HideStatusBars() |
| 08:16.32 | Aftermathh | Doesn't work |
| 08:16.45 | Aftermathh | --StatusTrackingBarManager:SetAlpha(0) --StatusTrackingBarManager:SetScale(0.01) --StatusTrackingBarManager:UnregisterAllEvents() |
| 08:17.13 | Aftermathh | i did this as temporary solution |
| 08:17.18 | Ellypse | Hmm. Unfortunately the new StatusTrackingBarManager doesn't define global names for the new XP/honor/ect. bars :( You can loop through StatusTrackingBarManager.bars if you want to target one specifically |
| 08:19.19 | Aftermathh | Hmm okay! Thanks, i will check :D |
| 08:22.57 | nevcairiel | hiding the entire manager doesnt work? it seems like its bars are parented to it |
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| 08:24.16 | nevcairiel | well i'll find out, bartender got to manage that one anyway |
| 08:24.17 | Aftermathh | Actually |
| 08:24.21 | Aftermathh | Hide() just worked fine |
| 08:24.24 | Aftermathh | haha |
| 08:24.43 | Aftermathh | I tried to parent it before to another frame, which i use as hider |
| 09:00.05 | Justwait | Mhmm |
| 09:00.10 | Justwait | how to get mapid now ( |
| 09:04.40 | nevcairiel | there is no such thing anymore :p |
| 09:05.52 | Justwait | well, GetAreaInfo asks for areaID |
| 09:05.56 | Justwait | where does one get that |
| 09:05.58 | Justwait | <_< |
| 09:09.39 | Aftermathh | oUF working! |
| 09:09.40 | Aftermathh | https://cubeupload.com/im/wUZ0v2.jpg |
| 09:10.00 | Aftermathh | Although the totems plugin doesn't seem to work, can't find what's wrong with it though |
| 09:19.39 | ls- | there's issues w/ oUF, yeah.. cba to fix it right now though... |
| 09:35.30 | VIad | it's always fun with addons on test servers, allows you to re-do your UI completely for release. will be nice to get rid of all the weakauras you dont need in bfa :D |
| 09:41.23 | Aftermathh | Hmm there some weird with castbar though |
| 09:41.59 | Aftermathh | Sometimes when i channel, the name says "failed" |
| 09:42.18 | nevcairiel | It's April and we have like clear blue skies and 27C, summer is that you? |
| 09:42.18 | ls- | cool :p |
| 09:43.53 | Aftermathh | 21C here :D |
| 09:45.03 | Aftermathh | Light, you're from like Asia righy? |
| 09:45.17 | Justwait | I'm wearing the shortest pants I could find in my closet |
| 09:45.31 | Justwait | and I'm going to the supermarket to cool down near the cooling department |
| 09:45.37 | Justwait | it's middle of summer I think |
| 09:45.55 | ls- | Aftermathh: it happens because of UnitCastingInfo and UnitChannelInfo changes... they now return fewer vals |
| 09:46.02 | ls- | yeah, I live in Asia |
| 09:46.21 | Aftermathh | Yeah, i changed that =) |
| 09:47.11 | ls- | it's 31C here, but it says that it feels like 39C :D |
| 09:47.11 | Aftermathh | Cool, where do u live exactly? You didn't seem excited about summer guess you got like summer allround year? :') |
| 09:48.15 | ls- | it depends, I usually spend 8 months in Thailand and 8 months in China |
| 09:48.25 | ls- | ugh, 4 months in China |
| 09:49.48 | Aftermathh | ah :) |
| 09:49.56 | Aftermathh | I noticed my mistake now |
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| 09:50.42 | Aftermathh | had forgot spellID on some |
| 09:51.52 | Aftermathh | hm, still something wrong :c |
| 09:52.55 | ls- | and yeah, it's kinda summer all year round here, <20C is quite cold, I wear my warm jacket and trousers... but 25-35C is comfortable for me :p |
| 09:53.34 | ls- | I never go to China in winter though, it's 0C in Shanghai and there's no central heating whatsoever >_> |
| 09:57.51 | Aftermathh | ^^ |
| 09:58.05 | Aftermathh | Sweden sux |
| 09:58.25 | Aftermathh | A few weeks ago it was -5 / -0 |
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| 10:02.15 | Aftermathh | hm |
| 10:02.48 | Aftermathh | https://hastebin.com/igusuhazoq.lua |
| 10:02.53 | Aftermathh | not sure what's wrong :c |
| 10:12.10 | tz | sigh, dead m.2 SSD |
| 10:12.13 | tz | grumbles |
| 10:25.08 | Aftermathh | God i love Prawn Crackers :D |
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| 10:37.44 | Andols | I think it's 20-23 C here (western Sweden) |
| 10:38.15 | haste | 11C in Oslo atm :/ |
| 10:43.35 | nevcairiel | you can have some of our heat, i dont want it |
| 10:44.17 | Aftermathh | 22C in the south of sweden :) |
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| 12:46.16 | ebony | message length cannot exceed 246 now from 255 |
| 12:46.19 | ebony | in 8.0 |
| 12:49.33 | VIad | I hope thats a bug or joke, ebony :P |
| 12:50.16 | ebony | not a joke i can not send anything over 256 on addon comms. |
| 12:50.23 | ebony | 246** |
| 12:50.31 | VIad | isn't the prefix part of the 255 limit? |
| 12:50.46 | nevcairiel | it didnt use to be in 7.0 |
| 12:50.54 | ebony | yep but am using acecomms so that should sort it all out |
| 12:51.28 | nevcairiel | are you using the very latest version from just a few hours ago? I fixed something related to message length there |
| 12:52.35 | ebony | i got the one that changed the C_ChatInfo |
| 12:53.24 | nevcairiel | just found your ticket, you are not using the latest version |
| 12:53.26 | ebony | ah ya i see there is a r1172-alpha |
| 12:54.16 | nevcairiel | alpha days, very first thing to do is check for the version :) |
| 12:54.41 | nevcairiel | just a few more hours of actual work then i can focus on fixing my own addons too |
| 12:54.43 | VIad | I always just load my private addon suite and fix that :P |
| 12:54.48 | VIad | get all my personal plugins and such working |
| 12:55.11 | VIad | mostly just see how the new api available works and can be used for, always fun |
| 12:55.16 | ebony | ya i did check but i been working on this for hours my addon uses comms a lot so |
| 12:57.21 | VIad | I just realized I got into alpha on my like, non-subbed account LOL |
| 12:57.30 | VIad | used it to recruit myself back in the day |
| 12:57.47 | VIad | went into the WTF folder to copy some stuff into it and there I found out |
| 12:58.56 | ebony | ah that seems to fix it @nevcairiel sorry |
| 12:59.05 | nevcairiel | good |
| 12:59.17 | Ellypse | I just went and checked too, and I was able to send a string of 250 characters |
| 12:59.40 | ebony | or though is it right they don't seem to go anywhere :S |
| 13:00.28 | nevcairiel | dont you need a second person to test such things anway |
| 13:00.41 | nevcairiel | i guess you could send to yourself =p |
| 13:01.05 | ebony | i got two acconts on alpha :D |
| 13:01.18 | AcidWeb | :< |
| 13:01.27 | ebony | since like day 1 |
| 13:01.36 | ebony | or in the 1st week anyway |
| 13:04.11 | Aftermathh | LUL VLAD |
| 13:07.13 | ebony | well there API_docs are kinda helpful |
| 13:08.11 | Ellypse | I'm able to receive my own addon messages sent via ChatThrottleLib correctly. Make sure you also use the C_ChatInfo namespace when using RegisterAddonMessagePrefix |
| 13:08.33 | nevcairiel | i made AceComm use that |
| 13:08.46 | nevcairiel | my only other guess would've been that the event changed somehow |
| 13:08.51 | ebony | ya acecomms already doing that what channel you trying it on? |
| 13:09.00 | Ellypse | Yeah, I was talking to ebony ^^ I don't use Acecomm but I know you use CTL too |
| 13:09.14 | nevcairiel | he uses acecomm tho |
| 13:09.21 | Ellypse | It works for WHISPER and a custom chat channel |
| 13:10.13 | ebony | am using :RegisterComm( AJM.COMMAND_PREFIX, "CommandReceived" ) |
| 13:11.27 | Ellypse | I'm looking at the latest Acecomm build and it does use C_ChatInfo so it should work |
| 13:13.39 | Kesava | ellypse! /wave |
| 13:13.49 | Kesava | also, um, is there a place listing 8.0 api changes |
| 13:14.08 | nevcairiel | a complete list? probably not |
| 13:14.13 | Ellypse | Hiya Kesava :D |
| 13:14.15 | Kesava | ooor some way to work out what the returns on a function are meant to be |
| 13:14.23 | Justwait | they have nice documentation though. |
| 13:14.23 | ebony | you can download blizzard UI code and look at api docs |
| 13:14.23 | nevcairiel | read the api docs |
| 13:14.43 | Kesava | oh yeah, what's the command for that |
| 13:14.44 | ebony | is this new SendAddonMessageLogged? |
| 13:14.55 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:15.03 | Ellypse | I have a "thing I did myself, I'm shy, please don't judge, it probably has errors" article on my GitHub with my observations, build after build, of the important changes I found https://github.com/Ellypse/wow-ui-source/wiki/Battle-for-Azeroth-alpha-UI-changes-observations |
| 13:15.04 | nevcairiel | not sure what its really good for tho |
| 13:15.23 | Ellypse | It is not for reporting bad RP profiles, that I know. I asked. |
| 13:15.41 | Kesava | oh, lovely, thanks |
| 13:16.03 | Ellypse | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.13 | ebony | http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Extracting_interface_files would be to download and then just look at the api the "ingame" stuff is mehy in chat |
| 13:16.44 | Ellypse | I have the latest export here if you want a lazy way https://github.com/Ellypse/wow-ui-source/tree/beta |
| 13:17.31 | ebony | as well it seems "COMMUNITIES" is a addon channel |
| 13:17.49 | Kesava | well don't you just have everything ready |
| 13:17.59 | Kesava | this has sprung on me, i didn't realise addons were enabled |
| 13:18.17 | ebony | ya i was thinking i had untill beta |
| 13:19.20 | Ellypse | Knowing that BfA is mid august and anticipating at least a month of prepatch, that leaves 3 month to be ready for 8.0 |
| 13:19.56 | Justwait | it's been saying beta ingame for a while now :p |
| 13:20.05 | ebony | true |
| 13:20.07 | Justwait | did it ever even say alpha? |
| 13:20.10 | ebony | yep |
| 13:20.19 | ebony | for a week or so |
| 13:20.56 | nevcairiel | I dont think the client really ever says alpha |
| 13:21.31 | nevcairiel | everyone knows WowB or WowT clients, never heard of a WowA |
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| 13:21.56 | ebony | ya there no wowA public anyway |
| 13:22.09 | nevcairiel | internally they use WowI |
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| 13:22.53 | ebony | at bizzcon i saw a gm load up a wowA but this was back in wotlk |
| 13:23.04 | ebony | so like 6 years ago |
| 13:23.42 | Tercioo | did EJ_GetCurrentInstance has been moved to some namespace? |
| 13:23.58 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:24.43 | nevcairiel | or its entirely gone, w ho knows |
| 13:25.34 | bluspacecow | wowA? |
| 13:25.42 | bluspacecow | also - "Message: [string "px,py=GetPlayerMapPosition("player")"]:1: attempt to call global 'GetPlayerMapPosition' (a nil value)" <--- :( |
| 13:26.09 | AcidWeb | Tercioo: EJ_GetInstanceForMap(mapID) |
| 13:26.12 | nevcairiel | map stuff all changed |
| 13:26.44 | Tercioo | thanks |
| 13:26.48 | Ellypse | And C_Map.GetBestMapForUnit("player") to get the current map ID |
| 13:27.23 | bluspacecow | yeah thought so |
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| 13:30.12 | Kesava | they've removed the spell name argument from UnitAura (etc) bah |
| 13:30.33 | Kesava | do i have to do that with a dirty loop now |
| 13:30.37 | ebony | as for Instance this help local name, Type, difficulty, difficultyName, maxPlayers, playerDifficulty, isDynamicInstance = GetInstanceInfo() |
| 13:30.39 | Kesava | though it was probably doing that anyway |
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| 13:33.30 | foxlit | mild suggestion: maybe add the things you encounter to https://wow.gamepedia.com/Patch_8.0.1/API_changes , lest we end up with 42 separate and incomplete changes threads, each editable by a single person. |
| 13:34.13 | bluspacecow | mostly kehymo |
| 13:34.53 | Ellypse | Yeah, I was planning on doing that once I'm able to actually fiddle with the functions in game. This article started when I didn't have alpha and is only observations on code diffs, so their value was debatable ^^ |
| 13:35.14 | bluspacecow | and now you do ? |
| 13:36.25 | Ellypse | Yes, I had alpha for a few weeks (and quickly found how to run scripts and started looking at some stuff O:) ) |
| 13:36.50 | Ellypse | I'm totally gonna start adding the things I can confirm there, I promise ;) |
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| 13:39.23 | Kesava | oooh we have proper zone maps and everything |
| 13:39.38 | Kesava | it's gone from barely playable very quickly |
| 13:40.09 | ebony | i like how we still got UNIT_MAXPOWER but not UNIT_POWER |
| 13:40.43 | foxlit | (vs UNIT_POWER_UPDATE ?) |
| 13:40.47 | Kesava | yeah that should be UNIT_MAXPOWER_UPDATE |
| 13:40.52 | Kesava | i mean if they're doing it to one of them |
| 13:42.42 | foxlit | the curious thing is that UNIT_MANA remains. |
| 13:42.49 | foxlit | wru, UNIT_RAGE? |
| 13:43.43 | Justwait | Was there more dungeons available this build btw? |
| 13:43.58 | nevcairiel | yes 4 were added |
| 13:44.07 | Justwait | really |
| 13:44.07 | Justwait | :O |
| 13:44.16 | Justwait | that sounds like a lot of work |
| 13:44.16 | bluspacecow | Yes really |
| 13:44.27 | Justwait | I much prefered 1 at a time T_T |
| 13:44.31 | bluspacecow | Unless that had em ready and just slotted them in |
| 13:45.02 | Justwait | I meant mostly for me updating littlewigs. |
| 13:45.10 | Justwait | when they release them 1 at a time it's easy to keep up |
| 13:45.11 | Justwait | :p |
| 13:47.02 | ebony | *sigh* still not getting this replay |
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| 13:55.12 | ebony | IsAddonMessagePrefixRegistered returns true so its registered fine |
| 13:56.22 | Tentacled | OK, breathe in, breathe out... I'm getting an error on all missing files loaded by my add-on. Is that an alpha thing, or is it going to stay..? |
| 13:56.53 | nevcairiel | why would you load missing files |
| 13:57.26 | foxlit | weird people do user settings that way |
| 13:57.42 | Ellypse | It's going to stay. They are more type of errors, like XML errors for anchoring to unknown frames or registering events that don't exist |
| 13:57.54 | Tentacled | Because I often change which files are loaded, so I have a carpet bombing xml loading File01 through File99 just in case. |
| 13:58.19 | Ellypse | (I mean, I guess there are going to stay, since they talked about those new XML errors before) |
| 13:58.39 | Ellypse | (I'm having trouble with there and they today, please don't judge) |
| 13:59.03 | Tentacled | It could be a paranoid seeing just for alpha time, too. |
| 13:59.10 | Tentacled | Setting* |
| 14:00.17 | Tentacled | Couldn't find inherited node: GameFontSmall... Srsly..? <_< |
| 14:00.29 | nevcairiel | ingame errors for file loading errors do seem a bit extreme |
| 14:00.35 | nevcairiel | thats what framexml log is for |
| 14:01.46 | Tentacled | My point. |
| 14:02.38 | foxlit | ultimately, isn't the default policy not to display in-game error at all? |
| 14:03.44 | Justwait | I like these errors |
| 14:03.54 | Justwait | <_< |
| 14:04.19 | nevcairiel | its a tad bit annoying if you use the typical addon setup with automatic library packaging, since those libs then dont exist in your local source |
| 14:04.50 | Justwait | yea I had to avoid using the git-repo for bigwigs because of it |
| 14:10.20 | bluspacecow | ahahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 14:10.33 | Thunder_Child | crazyspacecow. |
| 14:10.37 | bluspacecow | dark iron dwarf warlocks shadow bolt has no texture |
| 14:10.39 | bluspacecow | so its |
| 14:10.40 | Tentacled | Attempt to register unknown event "EJ_LOOT_DATA_RECEIVED" |
| 14:10.40 | Tentacled | ... Nooooooo... |
| 14:10.42 | bluspacecow | FEAR MY BOX ATTACK |
| 14:10.52 | bluspacecow | just throws a box at the mob |
| 14:11.22 | Tentacled | If the mob is a cat, it would be super effective. |
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| 14:19.46 | nevcairiel | hm it appears to me like SendAddonMessage doesnt like sending non-printable characters anymore |
| 14:22.02 | nevcairiel | sounds like something we should ask TheDanW about later |
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| 14:27.58 | ebony | all warlocks got the cube :P |
| 14:28.39 | ebony | non-printable characters anymore? |
| 14:29.37 | bluspacecow | *logs on other warlock* |
| 14:29.54 | bluspacecow | the hell they do to my helm ? I look like some elder god hybrid! |
| 14:30.03 | Shockah | would the cube be a reference to cubelocks in Hearthstone? |
| 14:35.04 | foxlit | a cube is 3 dimensional, it's confirming half life 3. |
| 14:39.09 | ebony | its the end of the world! |
| 14:44.55 | ebony | ok this seems massed up i just tried sending my addon msg with " " at the start and end and it sent |
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| 14:46.02 | ebony | but it did not sent the msg it send something else |
| 14:48.28 | Stanzilla | Justwait: why can't you use the repo? file loading errors from the libs folder? |
| 14:49.04 | Justwait | yea |
| 14:49.10 | Justwait | since they are referenced in modules.xml |
| 14:49.17 | Justwait | but not loaded in |
| 14:51.39 | Justwait | think it still works though? |
| 14:51.44 | Justwait | just gives you the errors :p |
| 14:51.50 | nevcairiel | yeah it works |
| 14:51.52 | nevcairiel | its just annoying |
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| 14:59.21 | Tercioo | COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED is sending NIL on all arguments |
| 14:59.27 | Tercioo | any intel on this? |
| 15:00.18 | Justwait | CombatLogGetCurrentEventInfo |
| 15:00.21 | Gethe_ | you have to use CombatLogGetCurrentEventInfo() for loadout |
| 15:01.37 | Tercioo | thanks |
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| 15:41.28 | Andols | How large is the alpha when installed? |
| 15:42.02 | nevcairiel | that depends how often you patched it |
| 15:42.05 | nevcairiel | mine is 55.9 |
| 15:42.23 | nevcairiel | but it grows on pathc days, and then slowly shrinks again as it cleans itself up =p |
| 15:42.30 | Justwait | 59 for me >_> |
| 15:42.44 | Andols | Just like live :> |
| 15:42.51 | nevcairiel | not sure the cleaning works all that efficient on the beta due to the weekly patches |
| 15:42.56 | Stanzilla | Justwait: I just put the libs folder in my git checkout and .gitignore it, works perfectly |
| 15:43.21 | nevcairiel | i should just make buggrabber ignore those kind of errors |
| 15:45.24 | nevcairiel | perfect would be a cvar to toggle them, but not sure they would go with that |
| 15:48.18 | nevcairiel | hm except i cannot make buggrabber grab them, because they are being created before any addon loads |
| 15:48.19 | nevcairiel | oh well |
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| 15:53.10 | nevcairiel | Oh, those arent errors, they are "warnings" using a new event |
| 15:53.25 | nevcairiel | which actually has a cvar |
| 15:53.26 | nevcairiel | scriptWarnings |
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| 15:59.01 | nevcairiel | ..which doesnt work, because there is also a flag to override that and handle them as errors, grr |
| 16:00.55 | nevcairiel | UIParent:UnregisterEvent("LUA_WARNING") there, silence! |
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| 16:30.07 | Fisker | Hey Seerah |
| 16:30.14 | Seerah | hihi |
| 16:34.04 | Fisker | Your hi's went undelivered |
| 16:34.52 | Fisker | But I sent up a forwarding address for you |
| 16:35.07 | Seerah | glad you got them |
| 16:35.11 | Fisker | In CA-92802 |
| 16:35.15 | Fisker | I didn't yet |
| 16:35.18 | Fisker | :3 |
| 16:36.10 | Seerah | so you have to go there to get them? |
| 16:36.22 | Fisker | Yeah, we both do |
| 16:36.39 | Seerah | that's now how forwarding addresses work ;) |
| 16:38.00 | Fisker | It's a reverse double proxy |
| 16:42.18 | Fisker | waits for the technobabble to kick in |
| 16:46.26 | Torhal | I bet you used a blockchain, didn't you Fisker? |
| 16:48.44 | Fisker | You got me |
| 16:49.30 | Fisker | I actually think I just got a new "it was magic" phrase there |
| 16:49.35 | Fisker | Thanks Torhal |
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| 16:58.23 | Fisker | But I think I lost Seerah anyway |
| 16:58.33 | Fisker | And not in the technobabble kind of way |
| 16:58.34 | Seerah | sorry, busy >< |
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| 17:02.18 | Fisker | :P |
| 17:32.36 | bluspacecowtoo | https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20761936026#post-5 |
| 17:32.42 | bluspacecowtoo | was it something i said ? |
| 17:32.44 | bluspacecowtoo | #mystified |
| 17:36.59 | foxlit | everything from and including your post makes no sense, bluspacecowtoo. |
| 17:38.42 | Andols | I think he wanted to know how to turn them on :P |
| 17:39.37 | foxlit | that's my impression as well, making the "don't hide errors!" spiel rather misaddressed. |
| 17:41.38 | foxlit | (on some level, it makes sense that somebody would find the thread months later, be disappointed that there's no "Here's what to do to solve the issue you're observing, future person!" reply, and get annoyed at the MVP response being less than helpful to them) |
| 17:44.40 | Fisker | Stop fishing for brownie points bluspacecowtoo |
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| 17:51.16 | bluspacecowtoo | *steals fisker's brownies* |
| 17:52.27 | Fisker | I ate all mine |
| 17:56.50 | bluspacecowtoo | :( |
| 17:57.16 | Aftermathh | RIP Avicii :'( |
| 18:00.57 | Justwait | and Ben Brode leaving blizzard |
| 18:00.59 | Justwait | sad day :( |
| 18:01.52 | nevcairiel | pff hearthstone |
| 18:15.09 | TheDanW | nevcairiel: unprintable characters will be allowed again in non-logged addon comms |
| 18:15.39 | nevcairiel | good, thanks for confirming |
| 18:17.32 | Andols | oh, good :) |
| 18:17.51 | TheDanW | there will be a post going up soon(tm) about some of the addon changes |
| 18:18.11 | TheDanW | i'm sure you've already discovered most of them though |
| 18:18.44 | TheDanW | also, fix you warnings ;p |
| 18:19.02 | nevcairiel | files not being present in a development setup is intentional :p |
| 18:19.10 | nevcairiel | the packaging scripts add-in the libraries |
| 18:19.47 | nevcairiel | i made an ugly hack for myself to silence it https://pastebin.com/NfTuybMn :d |
| 18:22.07 | TheDanW | beautiful |
| 18:23.05 | nevcairiel | TheDanW: i'm seeing a big performance spike (ie. game hangs for 1-2s or so) when doing a lot of frame operations, like creating and opening up a complex config GUI, is that something thats just alpha things, or might there be some real reason? |
| 18:26.31 | TheDanW | similar to PTR, there's additional logging that you wouldn't find on a live release |
| 18:26.49 | TheDanW | if it's worse than that, then there may be something else going on |
| 18:26.57 | TheDanW | i haven't noticed anything internally though |
| 18:26.59 | nevcairiel | not sure I ever saw it that bad on PTR or previous betas before |
| 18:27.41 | nevcairiel | but i'll beat on it for a bit to see if there maybe is something wrong that its doing too much work somehow or something |
| 18:31.09 | Elmoe | Does anyone know if there is a way on townlong-yak to see a full diff of all changes between builds rather than just for select files? |
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| 18:32.58 | Thunder_Child | I suspect foxlit would. |
| 18:33.11 | nevcairiel | dont think it offers that |
| 18:33.34 | nevcairiel | but you can use one of the git repositories some people maintain, like https://github.com/Ellypse/wow-ui-source/tree/beta |
| 18:33.44 | Elmoe | nevcairiel: ahh cool, thank you |
| 18:34.10 | Torhal | I heard that Fisker diffed a guy once. |
| 18:34.19 | Alram | he was never the same again |
| 18:34.25 | Fisker | I did, but it killed him |
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| 18:58.41 | Elmoe | nevcairiel: hey I saw in the chat that you were updating acecomms |
| 18:58.46 | Elmoe | nevcairiel: did you also update chatthrottlelib? |
| 19:12.08 | nebula | the one distributed with ace3 is |
| 19:14.56 | nevcairiel | i can probably push it to the CTL repo as well |
| 19:14.58 | nevcairiel | maybe |
| 19:15.01 | nevcairiel | if the website lets me |
| 19:16.24 | nevcairiel | it did let me |
| 19:19.10 | nevcairiel | note that addon comms currently forbids non-printable characters, but that will be fixed |
| 19:22.26 | Elmoe | cool thats for the heads up |
| 19:22.37 | Elmoe | s/thats/thanks/ |
| 19:26.03 | Elmoe | Ellypse: your wiki write up is great, thanks so much! |
| 19:27.32 | Fisker | Torhal gimme a heyrep |
| 19:31.30 | Ellypse | Elmoe: Thanks <3 |
| 19:32.36 | Elmoe | they removed the ability to invoke UnitAura with a spell name? |
| 19:32.40 | Elmoe | this is an unfortunate change :/ |
| 19:32.50 | Elmoe | so we have to just iterate through all the indices now? |
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| 19:35.42 | nebula | oh jesus, i hope not |
| 19:35.51 | nevcairiel | it probably did that anyway |
| 19:35.55 | nevcairiel | just make a helper function |
| 19:36.04 | nevcairiel | or switch to spell ids while you#re at it |
| 19:36.50 | Elmoe | hmm actually I think I was just reading the error wrong |
| 19:37.37 | nebula | 1x [string "return UnitAura("player", "Trailblazer", "h..."]:1: Usage: UnitAura("unit", [index][, "filter"]) |
| 19:37.41 | nebula | certainly looks that way |
| 19:40.25 | nevcairiel | hm interesting thing about the UI lag i've been seeing, if i stop recycling widgets and just keep making new ones, its fast |
| 19:40.31 | nevcairiel | but if i reuse them, its slow |
| 19:40.34 | nevcairiel | why would that be o.o |
| 19:45.39 | Elmoe | interesting, referencing script files which are empty now causes an error |
| 19:53.40 | ebonyfaye | great thanks for update on unprintable characters |
| 20:04.42 | nevcairiel | hm apparently a tree with a lot of elements causes the problem, how weird |
| 20:52.06 | Stanzilla | what are the new names of the MAX_PVP_TALENT_* constants? |
| 20:58.26 | Elmoe | hmm anyone looked into the new map APIs yet? I notice that GetPlayerMapPosition is gone or moved to some new namespace? |
| 20:58.48 | nevcairiel | map apis are basically entirely re-done |
| 20:58.52 | nevcairiel | look under C_Map |
| 20:59.29 | Elmoe | nevcairiel: yeah I saw that but it seems to have no equivalent of GetPlayerMapPosition |
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| 21:01.35 | Stanzilla | thanks github, can't search a forked repo |
| 21:02.26 | nebula | Stanzilla: there are none, there are four slots now https://puu.sh/A7fLK/393ec3f41d.webm |
| 21:02.48 | nebula | the ui just iterates .Slots |
| 21:03.03 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 21:11.34 | nevcairiel | TheDanW: i did some testing on the frame lag issue from earlier, and it seems to lag from calling some :Show() functions on some buttons which are on a frame which is a child of UIParent but not anchored yet (because its doing that after). If I ensure its always anchored somewhere, its fine. If I SetParent(nil) it, its fine regardless of anchors. Only this specific case causes it to lag so much. Does that ring any bells? |
| 21:23.41 | foxlit | this events warning is annoying |
| 21:25.11 | nevcairiel | i like it, easier to find things you need to update |
| 21:25.18 | foxlit | it's convenient to combine the event handling and internal notification dispatch into one bit of code |
| 21:26.09 | foxlit | so when it warns me that ADDON_INTERNAL_STUFF_EVENT isn't an event, it's more annoying than helpful. |
| 21:26.54 | foxlit | (as for finding outdated event registrations, I just use Globe for that.) |
| 21:28.31 | nevcairiel | leaking addon data into game functions doesnt seem ideal, even if its just event names trying to be registered |
| 21:28.53 | nevcairiel | can still combine the dispatch regardless, just need a separate register function |
| 21:30.39 | foxlit | again: annoying. |
| 21:33.31 | foxlit | (wait, it's an actual error, so I can just pcall to opt out of this nonsense) |
| 21:36.13 | foxlit | (The Register function in this case is a __newindex meta-op, so providing an alternative route there is a bit tricky) |
| 21:36.34 | nevcairiel | thats what you get from over-engineered stuff |
| 21:36.35 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 21:38.49 | foxlit | nicer syntax :P |
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| 21:52.44 | nebula | UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT doesn't pass the target anymore, I assume there's no other way to get that? |
| 21:54.33 | nevcairiel | maybe CLEU |
| 21:56.50 | Simca | CLEU should have it |
| 21:57.21 | nebula | registering cleu for cast bars, bleh |
| 21:57.54 | nevcairiel | or just use _START |
| 21:58.10 | nebula | eh? _SENT was the only one with target |
| 22:06.02 | nevcairiel | oh right, that was weirdly inconsistent |
| 22:07.27 | nebula | they didn't want to expose the target pre success, but you could atleast use that for your own casts |
| 22:16.45 | foxlit | talos principle is 80% off on steam. |
| 22:17.50 | zenzelezz | worth picking up |
| 22:17.57 | zenzelezz | even though I never found the kitten |
| 22:18.51 | foxlit | just grabbed the soundtrack. |
| 22:21.40 | foxlit | I... don't have the "all audiologs" achievement, which seems like a huge personal disappointment. |
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| 22:39.58 | nevcairiel | ah i've been wanting to get that |
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| 22:44.30 | Stanzilla | I never finished talos principle |
| 22:44.43 | Stanzilla | I always start it, do 1 or 2 chambers and then have to turn it off because my brain burns |
| 22:45.26 | Stanzilla | the record a copy of you doing things mechanic is the worst |
| 22:45.50 | foxlit | the 8-gates-in-a-row puzzle with that :P |
| 22:48.21 | foxlit | (I think most of the recoder puzzles seemed relatively straightforward on second playthrough) |
| 22:50.07 | nevcairiel | doing multiple playthroughs on puzzle games feels weird, either you have bad memory or you just run through it |
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| 22:51.55 | foxlit | 18 months apart, you forget most of the specifics. |
| 22:52.56 | foxlit | (plus you can always go for the optional puzzles if the main route is too straightforward) |
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| 23:01.30 | Tentacled | Eh, recording copies in Talos is easy as soon as you realize you get to play an ancestor, who spawns an offspring and then dies while the offspring lives on. |
| 23:03.38 | foxlit | the relationship with the copy never seemed like a source of confusion. |
| 23:05.36 | foxlit | but recorded object physics bit me once; there was a fan/box/connector combo that needed to end up with the connector in the air connecting the source to the fan power to the gate, and something didn't quite work as I wanted it to. |
| 23:05.53 | Stanzilla | foxlit: I am currently stuck on the 8 gates in a row one, yes |
| 23:06.25 | Stanzilla | and my problem is thinking that far into the future |
| 23:06.41 | Tentacled | It's in the DLC, right? |
| 23:07.11 | foxlit | no, don't think so. |
| 23:07.50 | Tentacled | Then there's a similar one there. |
| 23:09.48 | Tentacled | 8 gates... Ah, that one. Source high in the air, gates to pass, to get on other side of fence and use the beam there... It wasn't that hard if that's the one. |
| 23:09.48 | foxlit | Weathertop was also annoying on second play through. |
| 23:11.11 | Tentacled | But the clue (as always) was that you can't help your old copy with anything, just use their help. It helped me, anyway. |
| 23:11.46 | Tentacled | It helps limit the number of actions considered. |
| 23:13.32 | tz | Tip: Press the 'M' key to see your map. |
| 23:13.36 | foxlit | The Seven Doors of Recording |
| 23:15.01 | Stanzilla | one day I will just copy a youtube video to do it |
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| 23:16.51 | foxlit | (I think it's mostly a matter of using your copy to leap-frog objects like jammers beyond the gates they're jamming, which lets you drag them even further later, while the copy's timeline keeps the old jammers alive for a while.) |
| 23:18.00 | Stanzilla | I always managed to lock myself out |
| 23:20.33 | foxlit | yeah, recorders make that worse. It's much easier to get yourself stuck when half the things disappear on a timer. |
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