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| 02:00.02 | Fisker | Hi Seerah |
| 02:00.25 | Seerah | good morning |
| 02:00.43 | Seerah | or have you not gone to sleep? |
| 02:02.10 | Fisker | Torhal would say that a Fisker never sleeps, a Fisker waits |
| 02:06.27 | Mr_Rabies | a fisker lurks |
| 02:06.46 | Mr_Rabies | behind every lua error, a fisker lurks |
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| 07:22.31 | Mr_Rabies | other than a few spells with clearly broken scaling here and there i'm really loving the new scaling in the open world - leveling a monk so it is a bit faster from 1-85 or whatever |
| 07:24.48 | Mr_Rabies | i think maybe slightly faster base leveling would be good, since it feels -good- with heirlooms, personally. i think optimally it should feel a bit fast with heirlooms and just nice and fun and enjoyable without, imo |
| 07:25.13 | Mr_Rabies | i could see ~55% slower than what i'm doing (minus the monk buff) being a bit tedious |
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| 09:04.33 | Andols | So, foxlit where should i expect strange stuff to happen? |
| 09:19.52 | nevcairiel | i'm still surprised that people still use masterplan anyway |
| 09:20.02 | nevcairiel | its like, a WoD addon |
| 09:26.23 | Fisker | Hey nevcairiel |
| 09:30.46 | Fisker | :( |
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| 15:14.57 | Mr_Rabies | man, immersion is a great addon, to the point that i expect it to be the next one with features annexed by blizzard |
| 15:28.03 | foxlit | The funnything is that people used to hate gradually revealing quest text. |
| 15:28.13 | foxlit | "oh noes I hate reading thing just let me farm already" |
| 15:28.14 | Semlar | > used to |
| 15:28.21 | foxlit | > they removed it. |
| 15:28.40 | foxlit | and now it's "oh noes I accept quests without reading, muh immersions!" |
| 15:29.22 | foxlit | (the word is semantically dead to me) |
| 15:29.47 | Semlar | i wrote an addon that auto accepts quests for me like 10 years ago and never looked back |
| 15:30.08 | Mr_Rabies | not just that, it's just the interface, foxlit - even with instant text, it's a lot nicer |
| 15:30.26 | Mr_Rabies | you can also set it to read the quest text after you accept the quest in a toast window |
| 15:30.39 | Mr_Rabies | so you can run into a hub and grab all the quests and it'll scroll through all the text |
| 15:30.45 | Mr_Rabies | as you're running to the quest area |
| 15:31.47 | Semlar | occasionally it would backfire and i'd go to where the quest is marked on the map only to find out i was actually supposed to talk to that npc again to get flown there or something |
| 15:32.07 | Mr_Rabies | yeah that's the only downside to doing it that way |
| 15:32.17 | Mr_Rabies | i don't personally do that, but i could see why people do |
| 15:35.06 | Mr_Rabies | i have instant text on, i just really like the interface with nice big buttons and big text that displays one small block at a time |
| 15:35.17 | Semlar | i thought about adding the quest text to the side of my screen after it accepted it like diablo does but never bothered |
| 15:36.03 | Semlar | unless you could implement text to speech in addon form it just wouldn't be the same |
| 15:36.28 | Mr_Rabies | some people were trying to voice act the quests for an addon but blizzard nixed that one pretty hard lol |
| 15:37.06 | Semlar | that would be quite a lot of work |
| 15:38.01 | Semlar | i believe someone wrote a program that hooked into the game and read text but that obviously violated the ToS |
| 15:40.33 | karl_w_w | so how are blind people meant to quest? |
| 15:43.00 | Semlar | i don't know if playing warcraft would be very enjoyable if i couldn't see anything |
| 15:43.34 | Semlar | although i do play a hunter so i could probably raid with my eyes closed |
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| 17:29.48 | foxlit | Mr_Rabies: so you can run into a hub and grab all the quests and it'll scroll through all the text << see, that's, like, the opposite of immersion. |
| 17:30.06 | Mr_Rabies | well, it's an option |
| 17:30.27 | Mr_Rabies | don't be so stuck on the name, either - it's just a different way of digesting the text with lots of options |
| 17:30.57 | Mr_Rabies | i mean, master plan just makes the garrison stuff bareable back when that was a thing, that's not much of a master plan |
| 17:31.21 | foxlit | as long as noboy describes the experience as "immersive", things are fine. |
| 17:31.28 | Mr_Rabies | OPie doesn't download some kind of doughnut-pie hybrid to my mouth |
| 17:32.01 | Mr_Rabies | but it should |
| 17:33.27 | Mr_Rabies | i'd say the default experience is a bit more immersive than the old quest dialog stuff, but not really without voice acting, which isn't happening |
| 17:34.07 | Mr_Rabies | it just brings the old quests to a format closer to what legion provides, sans voice acting |
| 17:34.33 | Mr_Rabies | most storyline quests in legion you don't need to read the quest text before accepting and you won't miss much |
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| 19:24.47 | ThiefMaster | hm, haven't done lua recently, but is there a shortcut to do something like this (ie i want 1 if the function returns 0)? `local members = GetNumGroupMembers() or 1` |
| 19:25.00 | ThiefMaster | used to be able to use `or` for this from js and python, but doesn't seem to work in lua |
| 19:33.51 | foxlit | 0 is truthy in Lua, so you can't short-circuit your way out of that. |
| 19:39.21 | ThiefMaster | lame ;x |
| 19:43.20 | ThiefMaster | does lua or the wow api have a function to format e.g. 1000 -> 1k, 1000000 -> 1M etc? |
| 19:46.04 | ThiefMaster | ah http://voximmortalis.com/wiki/WeakAuras_Snippets#shortennumber is what i was looking for |
| 19:48.32 | ThiefMaster | now the question is where i put it... the WA snippet that runs on every frame seems to be an awful place for a function definition that never changes |
| 19:50.38 | AcidWeb | WA init or use addon Hack to store your snippets. |
| 20:18.11 | nevcairiel | the game has a short number function, doesnt it |
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| 20:29.12 | Fisker | Hey bye Seerah |
| 21:07.48 | nimhfree | ThiefMaster: you might want to alter the weak auras code to ensure k, M and G are usedâ¦b is just wrong |
| 21:18.34 | nevcairiel | B is billion, its equally correct, just a different notation |
| 21:19.33 | nevcairiel | and actually used by blizzard in for example diablo3 to shorten numbers |
| 21:23.11 | nevcairiel | personally i think the SI abbrevations look a bit weird if applied to ordinary numbers that are not using a SI unit as well |
| 21:24.52 | nevcairiel | You would say $1B and not giga dollars, for example |
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| 21:37.38 | nimhfree | ahh but old school bankers actually used M for thousand. we should just use the SI abbreviations because it crosses language boundaries |
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| 22:32.49 | nebula | ThiefMaster: framexml has functions for it https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source/blob/live/FrameXML/UIParent.lua#L4715-L4746 |
| 22:34.51 | Torhal | I'm going to go ahead and blame Mr_Rabies for my camera scroll becoming unbound. I decided to try Immersion to see what it was all about, and later I noticed I couldn't zoom in or out. >.> |
| 22:43.43 | nebula | i started using it, i'm a fan, especially with using numbers for gossip options |
| 22:44.21 | nebula | didn't mess with my scroll wheel, though, if thats what you use for zoom |
| 22:49.59 | Torhal | Yeah, it is. |
| 22:50.06 | Torhal | Weird that it would just go POOF like that. |
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