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| 01:56.57 | Simca | there's some cases foxlit where you're definitely right and it's a waste. but there are others where there are enums only that exist in db2s and are never stated anywhere else that people need to know that change infrequently if ever |
| 01:57.07 | Simca | difficulty ids, power types come to mind off the top of my head |
| 01:57.47 | Simca | TitleId is probably a waste too |
| 01:58.05 | Simca | you don't want anything longer than like... 30-40 entries imo |
| 01:58.20 | Simca | unless there's absolutely no way to get the info ingame and there is from the files |
| 02:00.07 | Semlar | it's not useless to have a reference page for something to look up data outside of the game |
| 02:02.10 | Simca | no, but something like Title being manually maintained is worse than just having a page that begins and ends with 'TitleID, used in some places, get a full list ingame with /run for i = 1, GetNumTitles() do print(i, GetTitleName(i)) end' |
| 02:02.28 | Simca | that list is already missing several entries |
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| 03:05.59 | fewyn | anyone have been having problems with the twitch client for addons not actually checking for updates? |
| 03:06.23 | fewyn | like i have to actually go click the refresh button |
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| 03:24.54 | znf | fewyn, sounds twitchy |
| 03:58.41 | Funkeh` | oh no he didn't |
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| 04:11.18 | fewyn | oh yes he did |
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| 06:33.37 | Mr_Rabies | devilman crybaby broke my brain and i already knew the story |
| 06:33.44 | Mr_Rabies | i can't imagine people going in blind |
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| 13:40.36 | mikma | what's the most simplest and lightest hud available? |
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| 16:38.23 | Chipzz | TheDanW: so, from my earlier experiments it looked like one of the main issues with the XML and XSD validating was the order of the subtags |
| 16:38.55 | Chipzz | for example the Script tag in a Button would have to come before all the button specific subtags |
| 16:39.32 | Chipzz | I've messed around with xsd a little, producing a minimal test-case, and it does look like that's a fixable problem |
| 16:40.17 | Chipzz | or rather, a problem that can be hacked around |
| 16:40.37 | Chipzz | TheDanW: take a look at http://chipzz.safehex.be/xsd/ |
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| 20:50.29 | Chipzz | TheDanW: I'm fixing the Blizzard .xsd and making progress. I don't mean to be rude, but I think you gave up too quickly when you tried validating earlier ;) |
| 20:52.20 | Stanzilla | I don't think he cares |
| 20:55.12 | Chipzz | maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. but if he doesn't, then why did he accept a diff fixing validation errors? :P |
| 20:55.28 | Chipzz | and why did he try himself in the past? |
| 20:56.21 | Chipzz | and the bottomline is better code quality, which is never a bad thing. especially when other people are doing it for you for free |
| 20:57.16 | Chipzz | Stanzilla: I think "you don't care" is a lot more correct :) |
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| 21:00.36 | Chipzz | also "it's Sunday so he's probably not working today" seems like a likely explanation for the lack of response too |
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| 21:31.09 | Justwait | I think it all comes down to "Chipzz cares too much" |
| 21:31.36 | Chipzz | Justwait: that's your personal pov and you're entitles to it |
| 21:32.15 | Chipzz | Justwait: but I have worked as a programmer in big companies, and things like a commit-hook are generally considered a good thing (or even mandatory) |
| 21:32.33 | Chipzz | why let mistakes happen if you can catch them before they do happen? |
| 21:33.39 | Chipzz | Justwait: you as an add-on developer indeed may not care a lot. Doesn't mean other people who have a different pov don't |
| 21:33.54 | Funkeh` | i like how you're so insecure you need to keep re-iterating your past work |
| 21:34.05 | Chipzz | insecure? lol :) |
| 21:34.23 | Chipzz | I'll turn that around: |
| 21:34.46 | Chipzz | I like how insecure everyone here is that they see the need to attack someone who's actually trying to contribute in a constructive way to Blizzard for free |
| 21:35.10 | Justwait | It wasn't meant as an attack, it's fine to have someone who cares :) |
| 21:35.11 | Chipzz | what exactly have you done? how many fixes to Blizzard code have you contributed? :) |
| 21:35.28 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 21:35.31 | Funkeh` | so insecure |
| 21:35.41 | Chipzz | lol, so insecure too :) |
| 21:35.49 | Chipzz | Funkeh`: you don't know shit about me :) |
| 21:36.06 | Funkeh` | you wall of retardation you keep posting here is all I need to know |
| 21:36.11 | Chipzz | and now I'm gonna spend my free time in a different way and play some D3 |
| 21:36.18 | Chipzz | retardation? :) |
| 21:37.18 | Stanzilla | Funkeh` is such a internet bully :< |
| 21:37.19 | Chipzz | Funkeh`: FWIW, I would take this to PM with TheDanW if he'ld accept PMs... don't think he does though |
| 22:14.07 | Simca | Chipzz i don't think you understand how low priority this is for him |
| 22:14.10 | Simca | and them |
| 22:14.28 | Simca | it's so low priority that reading the text you'd typed about is probably assigning it too much time, i'd guess |
| 22:14.45 | Simca | i could be wrong but i don't think so. |
| 22:15.15 | Chipzz | Simca: my last diff wasn't high priority either, and I understand that |
| 22:15.25 | Chipzz | but then again, I'm not asking him to do much, am I? |
| 22:15.48 | Chipzz | I'm doing the work myself, sometimes asking qustions and most of the time thinking out loud |
| 22:16.17 | Simca | i don't think they'll ever accept fan diffs |
| 22:16.27 | Chipzz | Simca: you're wrong, he already did :) |
| 22:16.41 | Chipzz | my last diff is in the latest PTR |
| 22:17.07 | Simca | i think it's more likely they would make a ticket, solve it themselves, and it would look the same to you |
| 22:17.40 | Simca | i've seen threads with a complete diagnosis of the problem, the impacts, a solution in code, and a diff |
| 22:17.45 | Simca | go untouched for years |
| 22:18.08 | Simca | anyone in the bug report forum has probably seen it a hundred times |
| 22:19.02 | Chipzz | anyway GTG, GR group in D3 |
| 22:19.04 | Chipzz | later |
| 22:19.11 | nevcairiel | any changes would have to be 100% validated if it originates from an external source, at which point they should know whats wrong anyway and could just fix it themself |
| 22:19.38 | nevcairiel | although they have worked with external people before, see the initial secure template stuff, i dont think iriel ever officially worked for blizz, unless i missed that period |
| 22:20.11 | Simca | i thought he did |
| 22:20.29 | Simca | but i don't know stuff like that very well |
| 22:21.16 | Thunder_Child_ | He could have been an IC. |
| 22:36.25 | Chipzz | nevcairiel: to make myself clear, I already have submitted a diff fixing multiple smaller issues, which has been accepted |
| 22:36.30 | Chipzz | it's not a hypotethical |
| 22:36.41 | Chipzz | currently working an a second diff containing a second batch of changes |
| 22:39.05 | Chipzz | they did review the diff and they may have changed some things before applying, but it was acceoted |
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