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| 02:05.46 | foxlit | oh, wow, InsecureActionButtonTemplate is now (well, 7.2, but news to me) an actual thing that exists. Belated thanks, TheDanW! |
| 02:07.55 | TheDanW | belated thanks is better than none :) hope it helps |
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| 09:36.54 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: what's that for? |
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| 12:29.34 | nebula | Gnarfoz: nonprotected button that can run secure actions while not in combat |
| 13:08.33 | VIad | nebula: that sounds odd. what flexibilities does that entail? |
| 13:08.59 | VIad | secure button vs insecure button that both run secure actions out of combat, would assume it would be equivalent right? |
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| 13:09.33 | nebula | yes, but you couldn't need to work about it going protected during combat, it just wouldn't do anything if clicked |
| 13:09.44 | nebula | s/couldn't/wouldn't/ |
| 13:10.05 | VIad | ah makes sense. easier if you want it to only work OOC as well :d |
| 13:10.16 | VIad | I would assume it would error or something |
| 13:12.51 | nebula | hm? i mean a SAB would cause errors if you tried to SetPoint it or whatever else during combat, ISAB doesn't care |
| 13:13.17 | VIad | yeah |
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| 14:08.24 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: mostly, it avoids the protection cascade. |
| 14:12.05 | foxlit | If you anchor a SABT button to something else, that something also becomes protected (and there are things you can't anchor a protected widget to) |
| 14:15.52 | foxlit | So to not cause errors when something is protected while nobody else thinks it should be, you'd have to unanchor and orphan those buttons in combat. |
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| 14:29.18 | wh0ami | hi |
| 14:29.31 | wh0ami | is there any way to display nameplates for any npc/player? |
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| 14:55.50 | wh0ami | is this channel alive? :s |
| 14:55.59 | Thunder_Child | More like undead. |
| 14:56.32 | wh0ami | i never see active people here :D |
| 14:57.07 | Thunder_Child | It's sporadic. |
| 14:58.53 | haste | Depends on the time of the day and the phasing of the moon |
| 14:59.37 | Thunder_Child | And if Torhal has bought/bred a new cat. |
| 15:05.19 | wh0ami | ok :b |
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| 18:04.17 | tryhaard | Hi guys, I'm new to addons programming. Is there a FAQ or some must read list on how to begin? I read some random articles but none talk about how to make ToolTips attach to certain mouseover events in-game. And that's where I'd like to start. |
| 18:06.56 | Thunder_Child | Could always look to see how an existing addon does it. |
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| 18:30.44 | foxlit | tryhaard: what's a "certain mouseover event"? |
| 18:35.51 | tryhaard | @foxlit, mousing over someone's nickname on Premade Groups o Guild Chat. |
| 18:36.04 | tryhaard | I guess I'll just read Raider IO's code until I figure it out |
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| 18:38.18 | Fisker | Hey Seerah |
| 18:38.24 | Seerah | hihi |
| 18:40.03 | foxlit | there's no central mouseover handling, so you'd have to use the OnEnter/OnHyperlinkEnter script handler on the relevant widgets, whatever those might be. |
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| 19:15.09 | tryhaard | @foxlit, tyvm. I'll read into it on the wikis! |
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| 19:43.28 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: I see (re: IABT), thanks |
| 19:43.35 | Gnarfoz | (and nebula) |
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| 21:30.57 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:27.22 | Simca | re: earlier convos about Get*Spell* changes. it does make sense. they're optimizing out strings as much as possible to stay inside 2GB limit, and Spell.db2 is one of the largest concentrations of strings in the game. second biggest db2 by size, weighing in at 14.6MB. The biggest one (itemsparse) is also loaded staggered (only sections are loaded at a time after lookups are performed) |
| 22:30.13 | Gnarfoz | "makes sense" for a specific definition of "sense" |
| 22:30.20 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 22:30.48 | Thunder_Child | Isn't it always? |
| 22:31.20 | Gnarfoz | their goal is being questioned, not their solution ^^ |
| 22:32.03 | Thunder_Child | I mean "sense" is always within a specific context. |
| 22:32.22 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. they could "just" up the requirements and the "problem" would cease to be one... alas, someone's probably going to protest measures that would reduce subscribers) |
| 22:32.59 | foxlit | you could at least tell us something interesting, Simca. |
| 22:33.05 | foxlit | Like how much of that db2 is actually strings. |
| 22:33.14 | Simca | all of it. |
| 22:33.27 | Simca | everything that wasn't a string was moved to other db2s recently |
| 22:33.34 | Simca | every field in Spell is a string now |
| 22:36.15 | foxlit | some of it is bound to be index garbage, though. Who needs those things? :P |
| 22:36.26 | Gnarfoz | none of this makes this less annoying, but, see above re: motivations |
| 22:43.12 | Simca | there's a lot of repeat spells and repeat descriptions - index garbage may actually save them space. |
| 22:43.40 | foxlit | that thing grew by 3MB since dec1. |
| 22:44.02 | foxlit | Either they added a whole lot of spells, or the encoding format isn't helping. |
| 22:44.08 | Simca | if it doesn't, they can flip a switch and convert it to the format with records that have inline strings |
| 23:00.11 | foxlit | annoyance: safari blocks autoplay video with audio tracks, so twitch decides to mute audio by default. |
| 23:04.56 | foxlit | ... even when they actually have permission to autoplay videos with sound. |