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| 08:36.24 | tz | wish UI scale could go even lower to 0.5 or something, 4K at no dpi scaling makes it huuuuuuge |
| 08:38.12 | VIad | the UI was made back when people had 1024x768 as their largest resolutions :d |
| 08:40.40 | VIad | maybe for bfa they can increase the UI resolution a bit, considering most run at least 1080p these days anyway |
| 08:41.19 | VIad | unless the scale 0.5 is purely a random picked limit, and can technically be set to 0.01 and let users do whatev they want :d |
| 08:43.34 | nevcairiel | changing the UI resolution would result in every single piece of the UI needing to be changed in positioning |
| 08:44.06 | nevcairiel | the render resolution makes no difference anyway, since ui scale doesn't just scale the UI (that would be ugly), it actually scales the render resolution |
| 08:44.58 | nevcairiel | perhaps they could increase the limit so you can get it to pixel perfect on 4K though (although that would be a tiny UI) |
| 08:45.35 | tz | all I know is that I'm setting things to fontsize of 7 in most cases to deal with it |
| 08:45.52 | nevcairiel | there is a big difference between using no UI scale and wanting 0.5 |
| 08:45.52 | tz | scaling frames down pretty much everywhere |
| 08:45.56 | nevcairiel | i mean it already goes to like 0.6 |
| 08:46.26 | tz | oh I know, but even at the minimum of 0.63 (?) it's still massive |
| 08:49.01 | nevcairiel | You would need a scale of 0.3555 for pixel perfect on 4K, but that would likely be extremely tiny |
| 08:49.44 | nevcairiel | you can use a macro/addon to overwrite the limit of 0.64 though |
| 08:50.06 | tz | orly, that's... interesting |
| 08:50.08 | nevcairiel | (but honestly, anyone gaming at 4K at this day just deserves what they get :p) |
| 08:50.19 | tz | https://i.imgur.com/e6uxlqB.jpg kiiiiiiiiiiinda big |
| 08:50.31 | nevcairiel | thats on 1.0, duh |
| 08:50.58 | tz | yeah 0.63 or whatever is uploading :P |
| 08:51.34 | tz | https://i.imgur.com/7eWAWLy.jpg marginally better |
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| 08:52.07 | tz | so is it just a case of setting the cvar on startup or what, wouldn't mind testing to see what 0.3 or whatever looks like |
| 08:52.11 | nevcairiel | that seems mostly fine to me, at least on my 27" screen size |
| 08:53.22 | nevcairiel | ui scale basically just controls the scale of UIParent, so iirc you have to manually adjust that |
| 08:53.54 | tz | hrm |
| 08:54.04 | nevcairiel | some addons that try to work around UIParent for dumb reasons and read the uiScale directly might not like that, but those are designed dumb anyway |
| 08:54.41 | tz | oh hell yes |
| 08:56.32 | tz | https://i.imgur.com/hXJFdLT.jpg |
| 08:56.35 | tz | muuuuuuuuch better |
| 08:56.48 | nevcairiel | what size is your screen to like that? |
| 08:56.53 | tz | 32 |
| 08:57.08 | tz | (plus I have better-than-normal eyesight) |
| 08:57.11 | tz | kinda helps |
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| 08:59.00 | nevcairiel | I dont like that giant screens personally, not for gaming anyway, the field of view of the eyes is usually not even that big, so it either gets stressfull on the eyes or you move all the important thigns into the center anyway, at least thats what I did when i had a 30" some years back |
| 08:59.13 | tz | ....I have three |
| 08:59.19 | nevcairiel | its pretty neat for productivity tasks, but gaming, meh |
| 08:59.33 | tz | yeah that's exactly why, I need too many things open while working |
| 09:01.04 | VIad | when you mean override, can you like /console uiScale 0.1 ? |
| 09:01.46 | tz | /run UIParent:SetScale(0.1) |
| 09:01.48 | VIad | me being on 1080p I use auto mode so I havent played with uiScale that much :p |
| 09:02.08 | VIad | wouldn't you wanna do it on WorldFrame to affect nameplates too or would that mess up stuff badly? |
| 09:02.49 | tz | I actually shrink top/bottom of WorldFrame and move all my normal UI bits so that they're not overlapping (and give myself a wider FoV, tbh) |
| 09:03.57 | tz | ha, just loaded my normal UI with this scaling change... I think I"ll need to sort out a UI rebuild this weekend |
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| 09:05.38 | Fisker | blinks at Seerah |
| 09:07.55 | tz | also, apparently the Illidari cannot be stopped |
| 09:10.07 | AcidWeb | tz: https://bird-x.com/animal-rodent-products/bat-control/ |
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| 09:10.50 | tz | haha, nice |
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| 09:17.37 | VIad | the frame saving positions are usually a offset from some arbitrary corner/center of the screen, so changing the scale messes up stuff |
| 09:18.14 | VIad | that's why in my UI package I made my script reanchor stuff to the corner they are located on to avoid scaling issues. like chat bottomleft is anchored bottomleft, not some weird offset from the center :p |
| 09:18.35 | VIad | bartender bottom right, I went in the config and specified this so it didnt offset again from center |
| 09:19.01 | tz | mind pastebinning an example? had come to the same conclusion while I was messing with it, figured I'd need to do something similar |
| 09:19.18 | tz | or is it just the usual clearallpoints/setpoint combo |
| 09:19.28 | VIad | on many regular frames it is |
| 09:19.51 | tz | there's always someone who wants to be smart ;) |
| 09:19.55 | VIad | I had to go addon by addon and see how they manage position saving, some use the SV for it, others the userplaced feature |
| 09:20.01 | tz | *nod* |
| 09:20.28 | VIad | I just run a /installvladsui command to inject my profiles and reload UI to get stuff running :d |
| 09:20.34 | VIad | making alts have never been easier |
| 09:21.07 | VIad | most addons also use ace profile system so its easy to just load my profile there as well, makes things superquick |
| 09:22.22 | Shockah | so uh, any particular reason i may be getting "No player named X is currently playing." when using AceComm's SendCommMessage in my addon (sending a whisper to a specific player)? and it's random |
| 09:22.31 | Shockah | 90% of the time it works fine |
| 09:22.40 | Shockah | the person is certainly not offline |
| 09:23.07 | Stanzilla | you think he isn't but he is |
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| 09:24.27 | Shockah | i may be forced to make it a RAID message instead if i don't find the cause |
| 09:25.27 | tz | Vlad: yeah I did something similar with reflux, injecting profiles is great but there are always a few addons that don't cooperate, like the WoWDB uploader profiler thingy |
| 09:32.11 | Shockah | But I donât like the idea of sending 2-4 raid messages per raider in 2 minutes |
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| 12:01.58 | VIad | Shockah: are they like zoning when these things occur? :o |
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| 12:12.53 | Shockah | probably not |
| 12:13.03 | Shockah | it's basically used in my loot distribution addon |
| 12:13.14 | Shockah | when people roll on loot |
| 12:13.44 | Shockah | the message is sent to the master looter |
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| 12:23.10 | VIad | I made a google docs that shows dps gain for relics, you enter spec and current relic trait + ilvl and select the new trait + ilvl and it tells you how much dps you gain or lose :d |
| 12:23.32 | VIad | purpose is to optimize relic distribution when unsure |
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| 15:40.12 | VIad | there are some real issues with wow rendering, just having my camera turned 180 degrees affects fps heavily than if I turn around and this is a empty room |
| 15:40.26 | VIad | seems to be something sunshafts/particles/ssao mix of stuff |
| 15:52.44 | VIad | my stable 150 goes to 50 lol this is so weird. I am standing last boss room in neltharion, at the pedistol looking towards the lava |
| 15:53.01 | VIad | basically where the boss icon is on the map, that spot reks my performance for some reason |
| 15:55.49 | VIad | wow really, particle density good causes 150 fps to go to 50 fps? |
| 15:56.07 | VIad | it doesnt even look too different with that to low (and back to 150 fps) |
| 15:59.04 | VIad | max settings set particles to low = https://i.imgur.com/gb65z8o.png |
| 15:59.14 | VIad | max settings set particles to highest value = https://i.imgur.com/27L28Up.png |
| 15:59.40 | VIad | 100 less fps for tiny amount of visual effects that you wont even notice if not there |
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| 16:25.06 | Funkeh` | VIad: you've got your distance sliders set to 10, set the 3 sliders to 1. There is no need having them higher in dungeons/raids, just wastes performance |
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| 16:33.17 | VIad | the point was how particle effects destroy fps for minimal gain in that spot for me :P |
| 16:33.43 | VIad | I just set it to highest to showcase the issue. I agree wit hyou for raids :p |
| 16:33.48 | Funkeh` | My point was that you could preserve that setting with far less impact |
| 16:34.17 | VIad | raid/bg doesnt include party instances :D |
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| 17:56.23 | znf | Stanzilla, is there any trick to make this battlenet app stream using HW encoding? |
| 17:57.55 | znf | so far my solution is to change affinity of b.net app to core0 and overwatch core1/2/3 |
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| 18:16.36 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 18:16.39 | Stanzilla | why use it to stream? |
| 18:18.28 | znf | because! |
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| 19:50.29 | Gnarfoz | facebook streaming kek |
| 19:53.30 | Simca_ | global notice is cute; they act there is anything that could be done at this point to prevent an appointed FCC chairman from doing what he pleases |
| 19:54.06 | Simca_ | time for activism was nov 2016 |
| 19:55.38 | Thunder_Child | Still has to pass a vote I believe. |
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| 20:32.07 | Gnarfoz | yeah I'll go vote |
| 20:32.09 | Gnarfoz | oh wait |
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| 20:55.30 | nebula | congress also has a bill to block it, so there's that |
| 21:20.44 | Simca_ | congress sees it as a partisan issue, even if it isn't, so that's doomed. |
| 21:21.19 | Simca_ | be easier to pay off enough FCC board members than to pay off enough senators |
| 21:21.34 | Thunder_Child | But not cheaper. |
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