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| 01:13.59 | Mr_Rabies | is AK confirmed to max out this week at 55? |
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| 01:34.08 | Munk | Someone has any insight into how restricted environments were changed in 7.3.5 that causes the bulk of my secure handlers to produce errors? |
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| 02:23.20 | Munk | TheDanW: The check inside CallRestrictedClosure for issecure() returns false, and I have no idea why. This only happens on PTR, works fine on live and has worked fine for 2+ years. The original function call is from SecureHandler_Other_Execute using a PreClick wrapscript. |
| 02:29.29 | TheDanW | Munk: first i've heard of it, if you have a minimal addon that reproduces it i'll take a look |
| 02:45.39 | Munk | Sure, I'll try to come up with something. |
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| 03:27.49 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: fuck i ordered the wrong strength of juice on black friday |
| 03:33.59 | Munk | TheDanW: I didn't manage to figure out the cause by writing a minimal addon, but I did find the cause by pruning the code piece by piece. It appears that the problem originates from a PlayerModel child frame attached to the secure header. |
| 03:34.55 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Too low? Too high? |
| 03:35.03 | Arrowmaster | too high |
| 03:35.27 | Torhal | Get VG and dilute. Had to do that recently with Kelly's old juice. I'm at 3mg and she was at 18mg. |
| 03:35.52 | Torhal | I say was because she decided to start ordering juice without nic once day and never went back to it. |
| 03:36.31 | Arrowmaster | im at 1.5 but one of my orderes was for 3 |
| 03:37.54 | Torhal | I just went to 1.5 and I'm vaping like mad until I get used to it. |
| 03:38.23 | Torhal | But yeah... dilute with VG and you'll be good to go. It'll just taste weak. :/ |
| 03:45.15 | Munk | TheDanW: The secure header has an insecure OnAttributeChanged script which fires in the PreClick wrapscript due to attributes changing. In this script, there's a line that shows the PlayerModel child. Removing that line fixes the problem. This seems to carry taint back into the secure environment for some reason. |
| 03:47.08 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: luckly its cold enough im not taking long breaks at work right now |
| 03:47.37 | Torhal | That helps :) |
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| 08:00.08 | Mr_Rabies | is the new world pvp system coming in 7.3.5? seems i remember them saying that |
| 08:00.12 | Mr_Rabies | or is that 8.0/bfa? |
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| 08:13.46 | nebula | world scaling and pvp is 7.3.5 i think |
| 08:15.47 | nevcairiel | dont think all pvp changes are in 7.3.5 already |
| 08:16.28 | nevcairiel | scaling definitely, and a preview of the new battleground later on |
| 08:17.31 | nevcairiel | but the world pvp changes with removing the server type etc sounds like a 8.0 thing |
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| 08:19.23 | nebula | yea, i guess i grouped those together in my head as "server changes" but i guess removing the type quite a bit more involved |
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| 08:35.01 | Andols | World scaling is 7.3.5 |
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| 12:05.11 | AcidWeb | Somebody seen somewhere a complete list of LW recipes that are no longer attainable? |
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| 17:47.14 | Guest29578 | a weird question. has anyone experienced that users have reported that the twitch client hasn't downloaded the up-to-date addon, that the client didn't say there were updates or something? |
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| 21:25.09 | Gnarfoz | VIad: not that one, but the old curse client has stopped working after the curse.com change, apparently |
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| 21:48.14 | schlumpf | My good old curse client "4.0.0.425 Beta" alpha still works fine with current site. It does have the issue of somehow getting the download url as "(null)" for 2 of my 184 addons. no idea how that happens. |
| 21:48.21 | schlumpf | Still better software than the modern twitch client thing. |
| 21:51.14 | znf | no way man, twitch client best client /s |
| 21:52.52 | Funkeh` | schlumpf: are you sure, I haven't found anyone with the old client working |
| 21:53.13 | schlumpf | I just updated my addons when I wrote that. |
| 21:53.33 | Funkeh` | your addons or the ones you have installed |
| 21:54.06 | schlumpf | the ones installed. I am referring to the curse client for end users. |
| 21:54.33 | Funkeh` | what version shows up for bigwigs |
| 21:54.45 | schlumpf | v75.1 (2017-10-29) |
| 21:54.50 | Funkeh` | yeah, that's old |
| 21:55.00 | Funkeh` | the last version since the site update |
| 21:55.08 | schlumpf | I see, so it is still able to fetch shit but stops updating. |
| 21:55.14 | schlumpf | I might have not updated my addons in a long time. :) |
| 21:55.26 | Funkeh` | i'm not sure, the people i've heard from say it just says up to date |
| 21:55.27 | schlumpf | rip, only usable curse client |
| 21:55.36 | Funkeh` | so it may be select addons |
| 21:55.53 | schlumpf | I had multiple updates available, but I haven't updated in some time, I guess. |
| 21:56.13 | Funkeh` | i don't really see a problem with the twitch client if you just ignore everything else |
| 21:56.39 | schlumpf | I'm one of those people where ignoring everything else means that everything else is still there, and disliking that fact. |
| 21:56.53 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 21:57.05 | Funkeh` | they added the "start up straight at the addons menu" just for you |
| 21:57.19 | schlumpf | I wouldn't know since I literally never installed it. |
| 21:57.28 | Funkeh` | fair enough |
| 21:57.48 | schlumpf | also, I can confirm no versions newer than early november on curse client 4 |
| 21:58.03 | Funkeh` | thanks |
| 21:58.33 | Funkeh` | i poked chaud hoping he will make an article on mmoc to raise awareness |
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| 22:05.54 | Gnarfoz | just use some killswitch url that's hopefully in the old clients and prevent them from even starting :> |
| 22:06.21 | schlumpf | since they still serve the old api but deliberately don't update it, I doubt they care. |
| 22:10.59 | Gnarfoz | assumptions |
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| 22:24.35 | schlumpf | Uh, not sure if I would call that assumptions. 103269 = TotalAP. That was last updated Nov 28, 2017, "r28-release-4" according to https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/totalap/files. At http://clientservice.curse.com/CClientService.svc/Soap11/GetAddOns they right now serve https://paste2.org/Hp5hOxfB. Notice how that offers r28-release-3 in line 66. |
| 22:24.56 | schlumpf | -> the api is still up and serving content |
| 22:25.19 | schlumpf | yet, all releases seem to be cut off in that week of november. |
| 22:26.15 | schlumpf | also, since the api still does verification of password and stuff, and offers information about addons not updated since 2006, I would claim it isn't just a cache either. |
| 22:27.12 | Gnarfoz | holy shit bro |
| 22:27.20 | Gnarfoz | I meant "deliberately" |
| 22:27.38 | Gnarfoz | they just broke it and didn't notice, par for the curse (sic) |
| 22:27.46 | Gnarfoz | (that being my assumption :P) |
| 22:30.06 | nevcairiel | yeah if you want to discontinue the old client, its far better to just break it entirely instead of subtly not delivering updates anymore |
| 22:33.49 | schlumpf | let's just wait for a fix of that issue then. |
| 22:33.56 | schlumpf | only has been broken for a month |
| 22:34.01 | Funkeh` | it would be weird if they actually fixed it |
| 22:35.52 | schlumpf | my point is: it still has a _running_ data source. so doing this by accident is quite rare, since it would mean moving to a new data source, but not turning the old one off. yeah, maybe that is an accident, but it sure is a weird one. |
| 22:37.51 | nevcairiel | considering they basically just shutdown the old site and moved everything to another one, its certainly possible some services of the old site are still available |
| 22:37.52 | schlumpf | I sure would call it an accident if they actually tore down the api&source, but somehow some cache layer kept serving data. |
| 22:39.28 | nevcairiel | the big difference is that the old site used some data syncing process to sync addon data from curseforge to curse, so there were separate databases involved which got synced by some process. The new site uses the curseforge database directly. So its within reason that the old database is perhaps still reachable through the old API, but the sync has been turned off |
| 22:40.05 | nevcairiel | its perhaps "accidental" that they forgot to shut it down entirely |
| 22:40.45 | Gnarfoz | I don't want to sound like Funkeh`, but this is totally what I expect of them, sadly. :P |
| 22:41.14 | Funkeh` | curse and optimism go hand in hand |
| 22:41.19 | nevcairiel | what, forgetting to turn some old service off? Or just scheduling that work for later because it really doesnt matter if its still on? =p |
| 22:42.03 | nevcairiel | the old curse client has been discontinued for ages, any expectations of it still working are not really very realistic |
| 22:45.51 | nevcairiel | now if the twitch client bugs out, you can blame curse =p |
| 23:30.42 | Funkeh` | schlumpf: were you getting a popup notification/nag to move to twitch every time you launched it? |
| 23:31.03 | schlumpf | Funkeh`: not once |
| 23:31.49 | schlumpf | note that this is some beta I never updated since I first got it. I have no idea if there even have been further versions. |
| 23:32.44 | schlumpf | it does claim to be the latest version on update check. I guess it is some thing they just forgot about or discontinued, way before twitch client. |
| 23:33.18 | schlumpf | that did come in handy since i only had to patch account type check once back then and had the premium features ever since. |
| 23:33.56 | Funkeh` | yeah everyone ahs "premium" now |
| 23:34.34 | schlumpf | this was multiple years ago. *shrug* |