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| 00:13.36 | nevcairiel | I find it curious that there was no single mention of any expected release timeframe. With legion they basically said immediately "summer 2016". So does that either mean it might be sooner then some people might think (but then why not mention that?), or are they really not far enough to make any half-accurate predictions to announce? |
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| 00:17.54 | Thunder_Child | Maybe they have learned their lesson. |
| 00:18.22 | Thunder_Child | Although I too was expecting a quarter release date. |
| 00:18.58 | Maldivia | well, what's the word on the floor, from people trying the build there? |
| 00:21.01 | nevcairiel | the zones looked pretty fleshed out already, even had critters running around in the videos already and everything |
| 00:21.35 | Gnarfoz | I was surprised at them throwing out the intro cinematic; had hoped that meant they're closer to release rather than farther from it |
| 00:21.55 | nevcairiel | well, its not like we know either way |
| 00:27.50 | nevcairiel | speaking about the cinematic, its absolutely awesome |
| 00:28.08 | nevcairiel | they should totally make a feature length rendered movie some time |
| 00:28.28 | Maldivia | you mean Warcraft, the Movie ? :D |
| 00:28.35 | Gnarfoz | just less bad |
| 00:28.37 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 00:28.45 | Gnarfoz | (it was ok) |
| 00:28.49 | nevcairiel | i'm sure you can save money by rendering it |
| 00:29.03 | Maldivia | that was more or less feature length rendered... and probably one of the better game-to-movie adaptations in recent history :D |
| 00:29.07 | Gnarfoz | but yeah, that idea has been floating around even back in diablo 2 days |
| 00:29.12 | nevcairiel | voice actors gotta be cheaper then actual actors |
| 00:29.14 | Gnarfoz | blizz cinematics department has been awesome for a long time |
| 00:30.03 | nevcairiel | also, if they place it in a modern WoW setting and use characters we actually have voices for, they wouldn't have to change them because the VO actors are not real actors =p |
| 00:31.33 | Gnarfoz | I bet VO actors would take offense to being marginalized like that, nevcairiel |
| 00:31.51 | Gnarfoz | I'm sure there'll be a twitter hashtag about this soon, if you keep this up |
| 00:32.10 | nevcairiel | probably, but what do i care about twitter |
| 00:32.19 | Maldivia | hmm, Square Enix did an OK job on FF15: Kingsglaive |
| 00:33.02 | nevcairiel | the voice actors for blizzard games are usually quite awesome in their own right, but they probably wouldnt be acting in front of a camera |
| 00:35.02 | Thunder_Child | "<nevcairiel> i'm sure you can save money by rendering it" Not if you are rendering to the same level as a standard tripple A feature. |
| 00:35.19 | Maldivia | by OK job: it was visually great (ok, some uncanny valley issues) -- the plot/story felt too cut-scene like :D |
| 00:37.34 | Gnarfoz | Thunder_Child: that meaning what? |
| 00:39.30 | Thunder_Child | Gnarfoz: Generally in full CGI movies, it's rather obvious that you are watching CG. In a composite RL/CG movie, it's not always possible to tell the difference. |
| 00:39.45 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt mind if its obvious |
| 00:40.02 | nevcairiel | its obvious in the wow cinematic that its CGI, but its still good |
| 00:41.04 | Gnarfoz | Thunder_Child: so... since Blizzard cinematics are all-CGI, there's nothing to do to a different level? |
| 00:41.30 | Gnarfoz | not sure what you're getting at here :P |
| 00:42.09 | Gnarfoz | you mean they should (try and) make an all-CGI movie where you can't tell that it is that? |
| 00:42.13 | Thunder_Child | I was just pointing out that you would not save money if you made the CG to the current look of the current wow movie. |
| 00:42.50 | Gnarfoz | that's not an all-cgi movie, though |
| 00:43.18 | Thunder_Child | I was not arguing that. |
| 00:43.24 | Gnarfoz | nev was, though |
| 00:43.34 | nevcairiel | The entire premise was to make it to the current look of the cinematics, not the movie |
| 00:44.18 | Thunder_Child | In which case you would save money, but you didn't specify, so I was just being pedantic. |
| 00:44.46 | Thunder_Child | At least I think you might save money. Not actually sure about that. |
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| 12:55.23 | dani_elle | Iriel: May I PM you if you have time, about a bug that could be used to gain native code execution from Lua (at least in 7.2.5) as well as to ask something? |
| 13:00.55 | dani_elle | As far as I understand you work at Blizzard on FrameScript-related stuff so I'm guessing reporting it to you is the best way to go about it. |
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| 13:38.20 | Andols | Why not give a example here and let us know ^^ :D |
| 13:39.17 | dani_elle | Responsible disclosure? |
| 13:39.27 | nevcairiel | I don't think Iriel works for Blizzard. But you can talk to TheDanW, he does. |
| 13:39.45 | dani_elle | Iriel is Dan though. |
| 13:39.59 | nevcairiel | there is more then one dan in the world =p |
| 13:42.53 | dani_elle | I thought Iriel worked at Blizzard now, on Lua related stuff. |
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| 14:14.39 | ls- | nah, TheDanW is the Dan you're looking for :p |
| 14:17.05 | dani_elle | Oh. |
| 14:18.04 | dani_elle | I was under the impression Iriel worked on FrameScript stuff as well as a lot of XML/Lua interface code. |
| 14:21.23 | dani_elle | Well he's connected from a Blizzard NAT gateway, I guess that's enough of a proof. |
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| 14:57.29 | Stanzilla | Iriel exposed |
| 14:59.45 | dani_elle | No I meant TheDanW. |
| 15:02.15 | dani_elle | I could see why there would be people eager to say they work for Blizzard because "gief 0day plz". |
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| 16:08.49 | Stanzilla | dani_elle: to clear that up for you, there are a few one time or a-few-times contributors to Blizzard UI code in here, but they don't really work for them, TheDanW is an employee though |
| 16:16.49 | dani_elle | Yeah I figured, he's on a Blizz NAT gateway so I guess that's enough of a proof, didn't know Iriel wasn't a Blizzard employee, would've guessed he is. |
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| 16:39.22 | mukunda_ | anyone run into a bug where your chat frame dies, and you have to restart the client to get it back? |
| 16:39.40 | mukunda_ | this is the only thing in FrameXML.log https://pastebin.com/nPswv2vR |
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| 17:01.15 | Mr_Rabies | argh i wish i could figure out what was causing OverrideActionBarButton* taint |
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| 17:05.37 | Mr_Rabies | it's so hard to reproduce the bug and i'd rather not just disable all my addons 1 at a time trying to find the source, i wish the taintlog was better at figuring out exactly what was doing it :( |
| 17:26.16 | mukunda_ | well this is annoying. can you not nest intrinsics? i think thats the problem here |
| 17:33.14 | mukunda_ | making a test case now |
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| 17:45.18 | mukunda_ | https://github.com/mukunda-/wow_intrinsic_test |
| 17:45.24 | mukunda_ | now how do we get this fixed... |
| 17:45.31 | mukunda_ | i hope im not overseeing anything |
| 17:47.23 | mukunda_ | waste of a good morning. i guess i need to make my upper frame virtual |
| 17:51.25 | ls- | completely unrelated, but, mukunda_, you have a cute avatar on GH :3 |
| 17:51.38 | mukunda_ | thank you... :) |
| 17:53.31 | mukunda_ | my git contribution graph is so pathetic now :( |
| 17:53.34 | mukunda_ | too much wow |
| 17:53.55 | mukunda_ | it used to be the full year |
| 18:04.49 | foxlit | observation: happiness is inversely proportional to the amount of newly-introduced oo tech you use in wow. |
| 18:05.13 | mukunda_ | apparently :( |
| 18:05.21 | mukunda_ | intrinsics are so clean though.. |
| 18:06.10 | mukunda_ | and then hours of gutting my code to find what was the problem... |
| 18:07.00 | foxlit | Mr_Rabies: under no circumstances should you post that log anywhere. |
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| 18:30.37 | Mr_Rabies | wow, weekend legion update |
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| 19:33.13 | Andols | A crate fix? |
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| 19:51.23 | znf | so, did anyone of our regulars here got their char 3d printed in the diorama? |
| 19:51.42 | Thunder_Child | I sure quite a few. |
| 19:52.13 | Thunder_Child | I assume all of the people that signed up for the blizzcon dinner had tickets. |
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| 22:39.52 | znf | Anyone hanging around Reddit and uses Chrome and RES? |
| 22:40.32 | znf | specifically chrome dev, I guess |
| 22:42.33 | znf | ah, nevermind, figured it out, chrome dev 64 breaks RES |
| 22:49.30 | Stanzilla | not even I use chrome dev on the desktop anymore |
| 22:49.56 | znf | they changed the way they allow stylesheets to be injected by extensions |
| 22:51.11 | Andols2 | Brutal. http://azyul.com/a/ApplicationFrameHost_2017-11-05_13-32-14.png |
| 22:51.18 | Andols2 | And finally |
| 22:52.04 | znf | what did you do |
| 22:54.24 | Andols2 | Me nothing. |
| 22:54.36 | Andols2 | A new banwave hit honorbuddy |
| 22:54.41 | znf | ah, nice |
| 22:54.56 | Andols2 | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/7azhk9/honorbuddy_cheating_community_devastated_by_large |
| 22:56.29 | znf | Nice. |
| 22:56.34 | znf | They deserve it. |
| 22:58.09 | znf | gotta get me some of that salt, checking out their forums |
| 23:00.03 | znf | https://www.thebuddyforum.com/threads/detected-after-5-min-playing.410798/#post-2536644 |
| 23:00.04 | znf | haha |
| 23:09.04 | schlumpf | "not me" |
| 23:09.07 | schlumpf | classic |
| 23:09.28 | schlumpf | also, mfw honorbuddy still exists |
| 23:39.17 | Mr_Rabies | haha, i bet that was the patch earlier today |
| 23:41.22 | Mr_Rabies | didn't they get sued by blizzard? |
| 23:41.25 | Mr_Rabies | how are they still around |
| 23:46.09 | nebula | the sued and won and the company was forced to move |
| 23:49.47 | schlumpf | > illegal shit |
| 23:49.51 | schlumpf | > caring about lawsuits |
| 23:50.02 | schlumpf | you realize that on your own, do you? |
| 23:50.13 | nebula | well they were forced to pay millions :p |
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| 23:53.02 | nebula | it's not like they're just releasing the bot to watch the world burn, it's a subscription service, the company is an llc in the us and eu |
| 23:56.27 | schlumpf | tldr: write your own bot |
| 23:56.38 | schlumpf | hint: don't do the tom way and try on windows |
