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| 05:45.25 | Semlar | neffi i think i found a new vehicle |
| 05:46.18 | Semlar | they replaced the jump seats in the back of the truck cab with giant subwoofers |
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| 05:56.34 | Torhal | I don't think that will fix my recurring dream of literally attempting to drive from the back seat, Semlar. |
| 05:56.56 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.17 | Torhal | Those don't look comfortable. |
| 05:57.32 | Semlar | they might be |
| 05:58.00 | Semlar | is white smoke coming out of the exhaust a good sign? |
| 05:58.10 | Semlar | i'm not a mechanic |
| 05:59.04 | Torhal | Could be worse - could be blue smoke! |
| 05:59.14 | Semlar | i think it was burning oil |
| 05:59.56 | Semlar | i went to look at the truck earlier today |
| 06:00.33 | Semlar | they seemed to know nothing about their own vehicle |
| 06:01.34 | Trela | Semlar: Did it smell sweet or like grapes? |
| 06:01.44 | Semlar | it smelled like gas |
| 06:02.00 | Trela | What year, make, and model? |
| 06:02.07 | Semlar | it's a 2001 mazda b3000 |
| 06:02.18 | Semlar | which is basically a ford ranger |
| 06:03.08 | Semlar | i checked the oil level and it was barely touching the bottom of the dipstick |
| 06:03.15 | Trela | Oil burner. |
| 06:03.29 | Semlar | they said they had to top it off every few months or so |
| 06:03.57 | Torhal | Not something I'd be keen on buying. |
| 06:04.19 | Semlar | it has a working air conditioner though |
| 06:04.26 | Semlar | and it doesn't leak |
| 06:04.27 | Trela | Either it keeps running forever while adding oil or dies five minutes after the title is signed over. Either way you are losing money.(Paying for oil or losing it all.) |
| 06:05.01 | Semlar | i was thinking about having them bring it to a mechanic to check it over before i decide anything |
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| 06:05.42 | Trela | Can you afford to buy a potentially fucked up car? If no, don't buy. |
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| 06:06.28 | Semlar | probably not |
| 06:07.08 | Semlar | but buying any used car carries a similar risk i would think |
| 06:07.18 | Torhal | OMFG what the hell did they do to SourceTree? |
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| 06:07.38 | Semlar | at least at this price range |
| 06:08.10 | Trela | Visible smoke from the exhaust is just a no go unless it is stupidly cheap. $500 to $1,000? Yeah, I would do that. |
| 06:08.56 | Semlar | they're asking $1800 but i'm sure i could talk them down to at least $1500 |
| 06:09.31 | Semlar | if the motor has a significant issue with it, i'd rather not have to fix it |
| 06:10.01 | Trela | Oil burning is generally a significant issue. |
| 06:10.14 | nebula | how thick is the smoke? |
| 06:10.19 | Semlar | not that bad |
| 06:10.41 | Semlar | i'm guessing there's a slow leak in a gasket somewhere |
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| 06:11.38 | Semlar | the other thing is i'm pretty sure the previous owner cut the muffler and the catalytic converter off of the exhaust |
| 06:11.45 | Semlar | sooo |
| 06:11.49 | nebula | >.> |
| 06:11.56 | Semlar | i'm not entirely sure the smoke is from burning oil |
| 06:12.04 | Trela | Unlikely to be a gasket. More like valve guides, seats, or stems. I had a small one on a XJ that I got away with just replacing the valve stem seals. Cheap and easy to repair, but took me all day. |
| 06:12.31 | Semlar | you had to take the engine apart? |
| 06:12.44 | Semlar | i'm not entirely confident i could put an engine back together |
| 06:13.44 | Trela | Remove the valve cover, remove the spark plugs. Rotating the engine with a wrench, feed rope into the cylinder to hold the valve in the upwards position, remove spring, replace seal, and replace the spring. Repeat for all twelve valves. |
| 06:14.24 | Semlar | could be fun |
| 06:14.35 | Trela | Valve guides, stems, or seats? TIME TO REMOVE THE CYLINDER HEADS! :D |
| 06:16.19 | Semlar | i could also brick my new truck |
| 06:16.27 | Semlar | i don't think it comes with a warranty |
| 06:16.44 | nebula | pretty safe assumption |
| 06:16.50 | Trela | I have a $700 engine brick in my garage. Sometimes DIY mechanic work fails. |
| 06:17.01 | Trela | *do it yourself |
| 06:17.36 | Semlar | the only reason i know anything about cars at all is because mine keeps falling apart |
| 06:18.57 | Semlar | oh there's also a "realtrainhorns.net" sticker on the window, but they evidently took their train horn with them |
| 06:19.37 | Semlar | i didn't even know this was a thing |
| 06:19.44 | Trela | HONK. |
| 06:19.58 | Semlar | why would i want my horn to sound like a train |
| 06:20.43 | Semlar | these things are like $700-1000 too |
| 06:22.30 | Semlar | alright i changed my mind, i want a train horn in my cavalier |
| 06:22.37 | Semlar | it would be hilarious |
| 06:23.12 | Trela | Because sometimes the stock horns are terrible so you replace them. https://i.imgur.com/043IVat.jpg |
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| 06:45.18 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:36.18 | Torhal | Yay, loading screen for days. Y U do dis, Semlar? |
| 07:36.34 | Torhal | This is why I haven't even bothered trying to update my projects since 7.3. |
| 07:36.50 | Semlar | me too thanks |
| 07:36.53 | Alram | Days? |
| 07:36.57 | Alram | You can go that long without getting DCd? |
| 07:36.59 | Alram | Impressive! |
| 07:38.16 | Torhal | Yeah. I rerouted all DCs to you, Alram. |
| 07:38.22 | Alram | Oh no :( |
| 07:38.34 | Torhal | Actually, I asked Semlar to misdirect them to you. |
| 07:39.07 | Semlar | FD's |
| 07:41.27 | Semlar | i found a video of someone who removed their catalytic converter and that pretty much looks like what was coming out of their exhaust |
| 07:42.36 | Torhal | converts Semlar to a catalyst for world-ending. |
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| 10:55.19 | Torhal | Bluspacecow: Dem GRifts, eh? |
| 11:00.55 | znf | Semlar, the catalytic converter is indeed in the exhaust |
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| 12:05.25 | Torhal | I know this has been on the Totally Not Happening Wishlist for over a decade, but having the ability to work on AddOns during maintenance would be nice. |
| 12:06.02 | Torhal | I liked the bug back during WotLK where sometimes the servers going down wouldn't toss me out of the game, so I could /reloadui for hours to test. |
| 12:08.58 | foxlit | PTR is probably still up during maintenance |
| 12:09.26 | Torhal | Hmm. Been so long since I'd used it I'd forgotten it existed. |
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| 14:15.21 | Simca | PTR has been down for quite a while |
| 14:15.29 | Simca | prepping 7.3.5 i'm sure |
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| 14:25.36 | Alram | its up Simca |
| 14:25.39 | Alram | please |
| 14:26.19 | Alram | came back up yesterday with 7.3.0 |
| 14:26.27 | Torhal | You can't stop datamining can you, Alram? |
| 14:26.43 | Thunder_Child | Why would you want to stop? |
| 14:26.53 | Torhal | He's running out of space. |
| 14:27.06 | Alram | I got a new NAS a few months back |
| 14:27.09 | Thunder_Child | Can always buy more. |
| 14:27.13 | Alram | Still 300GB free on the WoW partition! |
| 14:27.26 | Torhal | But now his brain is filling up. |
| 14:27.29 | Alram | Should be fine up to like 8.2! |
| 14:27.59 | Thunder_Child | Yea Torhal, brains fill up over the course of a lifetime. |
| 14:28.13 | Thunder_Child | That's the real reason zombies go for old people first. |
| 14:28.18 | Torhal | Are you saying Alram is close to the end of his? |
| 14:29.05 | Thunder_Child | No. |
| 14:30.21 | Alram | I like you, Thunder_Child! |
| 14:31.11 | Thunder_Child | Woah, don't get me wrong. You could be close to the end, I'm just not saying. |
| 14:31.39 | Alram | :( |
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| 14:55.16 | Fisker | How big is your Nas Alram ? |
| 14:58.54 | Thunder_Child | That's kind of personal Fisker. |
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| 17:32.52 | Infus | TheDanW: so we are using a workaround, SetIgnoreParentScale() + scaling the font for the cursor not being the in the right place. But there are some issues with that. Word wrapping seems to not work correctly, and russion/CJK text doesn't want to use the small font size |
| 17:33.16 | Infus | TheDanW: thus, I'd love to have a fix in 7.3.5 so that we can remove our workaround again |
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| 18:05.45 | ls- | I wanted to report one bug too, but I forgot which exactly... T_T |
| 18:12.24 | TheDanW | Infus: it's on the list to fix for 7.3.5 |
| 18:12.37 | Infus | thanks |
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| 18:25.01 | WoWUIDevDiscord | <Stanzilla> yay |
| 18:26.45 | nevcairiel | bridges are dumb, especially with very long names. use irc already failzilla |
| 18:26.57 | Thunder_Child | Just mute that account. |
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| 18:46.56 | Andols | I think it's only him that can talk this direction :P |
| 18:47.59 | Thunder_Child | Not sure if that is better or worse. |
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| 18:52.14 | spaten | yes its only him, i wanted to yell often |
| 18:54.24 | ls- | ah, yeah, TheDanW, for some reason backdrop's bg doesn't tile vertically o_O |
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| 18:56.32 | ls- | TheDanW: here's a screenshot https://i.imgur.com/7bnJyPj.png |
| 18:59.03 | ls- | it's really easy to reproduce, but here's code anyways https://hastebin.com/fivemusile.lua |
| 18:59.34 | nebula | think that's just how it's always worked |
| 18:59.53 | nebula | can see it on the ah frame, for example |
| 19:00.16 | spaten | how is the discordbot called here? |
| 19:00.59 | ls- | well, I guess no one was arsed to report it... |
| 19:01.13 | nebula | working as intended, obviously! |
| 19:01.17 | nebula | :p |
| 19:01.37 | nebula | spaten: what do you mean? |
| 19:01.39 | ls- | lel, ofc |
| 19:01.45 | Gnarfoz | WoWUIDevDiscord < |
| 19:01.50 | Simca_ | SetTexture has two optional parameters |
| 19:01.50 | spaten | stan wrote something earlier |
| 19:02.05 | Simca_ | one for horz tiling, one for vert tiling |
| 19:02.10 | Simca_ | maybe SetBackdrop has similar |
| 19:02.34 | Simca_ | the vert tiling option on SetTexture went undocumented for years because the game didn't tell you about it and blizzard never used it |
| 19:03.21 | ls- | well, you also need to use SetVert/HorizTile to fully enable it :p |
| 19:03.28 | nebula | considering they have all the options in a table that you pass, adding extra args seems a bit superfluous |
| 19:05.06 | ls- | Simca_: nah, just checked via GetBackdrop (return bd table), not additional params |
| 19:05.26 | nebula | wonder if they're still planning on removing the backdrop stuff |
| 19:05.51 | Simca_ | it's a bit weird they even make a distinction between texture and backdrop |
| 19:06.24 | Simca_ | they should just allow both to use the same functionality (i.e. specifically pixel-sized tiling textures, edge borders, etc for textures), then kill backdrop |
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| 19:08.03 | ls- | I kinda like how pita-less it's to draw borders via backdrops though... |
| 19:08.20 | ls- | ofc it can be done "manually", but it's a nice option to have |
| 19:08.25 | nebula | it's a convenience thing, for sure |
| 19:09.49 | Torhal | Simca_: I just realized... wasn't SetBackdrop supposed to be deprecated during WotLK? |
| 19:10.12 | nebula | later than that i think, but the decided not to |
| 19:10.18 | nebula | whenever they removed title regions |
| 19:11.17 | Torhal | No, they did the title regions in WoD, Mists at the earliest. |
| 19:11.52 | nebula | that was when backdrop was slated to be removed as well, i guess i'm not sure when it was deprecated |
| 19:12.34 | ls- | wut? didn't they nuke title regions only few patches ago in Legion? |
| 19:12.45 | ls- | or w/ Legion launch, don't remember T_T |
| 19:12.55 | Torhal | ls-: I thought it was WoD, but maybe Legion launch |
| 19:13.04 | Torhal | And nebula - was Cata: https://www.wowace.com/projects/libbackdrop-1-0 |
| 19:13.18 | Torhal | So I was a couple of years off and you were six. |
| 19:13.19 | Torhal | >.> |
| 19:13.33 | nebula | so i win? |
| 19:13.37 | nebula | :D |
| 19:13.46 | ls- | lmao |
| 19:13.54 | Torhal | sets nebula's backdrop to Cassini. |
| 19:15.16 | TheDanW | backdrop is still a great candidate for removal, it could easily be replaced by an intrinsic + mixin |
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| 19:25.44 | ls- | I guess it's a no :p |
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| 20:17.10 | p3lim | is there a way to do relative paths in XML, or get current addon name in strings in xml? |
| 20:18.12 | p3lim | basically, if I wanted to have a "library" of font styles (font objects) embedded in an addon, I'd need to have relative paths to the fonts |
| 20:19.23 | p3lim | currently I have to do this: "Interface\AddOns\MyAddOn\Fonts\MyFont.ttf" |
| 20:19.54 | p3lim | probably only solution is a relative path to the current xml file |
| 20:21.35 | p3lim | TheDanW: if this is not a feature of the xml schema already, could it be? |
| 20:22.16 | p3lim | like how $parent works for frame names would be perfect |
| 20:22.26 | nebula | how are paths relative to the xml file not good enough? |
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| 20:23.25 | Semlar | you can use lua in the xml file |
| 20:23.41 | p3lim | sure, but Lua doesn't have relative paths neither afaik |
| 20:23.50 | p3lim | sure, I can get the addon name |
| 20:23.59 | Semlar | why would the addon name not be enough? |
| 20:24.22 | p3lim | if the font library is embedded, I would have no idea of the directory structure |
| 20:24.41 | Semlar | tell them to put it in a specific folder |
| 20:24.47 | nebula | back to <nebula> how are paths relative to the xml file not good enough? |
| 20:25.24 | Semlar | he just asked if it was possible to use relative paths |
| 20:25.29 | p3lim | Semlar: I could, but it would be nice not to require it |
| 20:26.12 | nebula | of course you can you use relative paths |
| 20:26.56 | p3lim | how? |
| 20:27.12 | p3lim | because afaik, only toc has relative path support |
| 20:27.22 | Torhal | Have the files in the same folder as the xml |
| 20:27.25 | Semlar | presumably just put the name of the file in the path |
| 20:27.42 | Torhal | I have a Manifest.xml which contains: |
| 20:27.46 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.46 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.30 | Semlar | you will have to exit the game and restart it if you're loading new files |
| 20:28.41 | nebula | only if they weren't there before |
| 20:29.31 | p3lim | Torhal: that only works for file paths |
| 20:29.36 | p3lim | not for font/texture paths |
| 20:29.44 | Torhal | Ah. |
| 20:29.49 | Torhal | Blame Semlar. |
| 20:30.07 | Semlar | that seems unlikely |
| 20:30.46 | Torhal | You probably did some funky stuff to load Glues.xml and broke into the character loading screen with YouTube. |
| 20:32.18 | schlumpf | can you actually <includeish ../../gluexml/*>? |
| 20:33.53 | nebula | i imagine they unload Interface/GlueXML |
| 20:34.18 | nebula | but yea, i assumed any file= or font= would take a relative path, but i've never actually done that |
| 20:34.33 | nebula | with textures or fonts |
| 20:35.52 | Semlar | Car needs a new alternator, car runs great it is very reliable. |
| 20:36.05 | schlumpf | would be quite a nice scam thing. do a full screen login screen fake and claim you were disconnected. likely nobody would care about the realmlist page because they just want to log back in, so you could have all other chars be fake.. |
| 20:36.08 | nebula | (until the battery dies) |
| 20:36.19 | Semlar | car *literally* can't be started, how great could it be running |
| 20:37.06 | p3lim | also, CreateFont doesn't seem to have the same options as the XML FontFamily, such as different fonts based on alphabet (FontFamily Member) |
| 20:37.07 | schlumpf | someone do a proof of concept please, I can't be arsed myself |
| 20:37.13 | p3lim | unless I've missed it |
| 20:37.16 | AcidWeb | It somebody use AdiBags and ElvUI might find this interesting: https://github.com/AcidWeb/ElvUI-AdiBags |
| 20:38.01 | Thunder_Child | Semlar: Fantastic going downhill. |
| 20:38.10 | Semlar | we don't have hills in florida |
| 20:38.20 | Thunder_Child | Gentle slopes then. |
| 20:38.28 | Semlar | that would be pushing it |
| 20:38.58 | schlumpf | Semlar: if you ever want to see a hill, I can offer a bed over in europe. we do have hills here. |
| 20:38.58 | ls- | use sail during hurricanes :p |
| 20:39.19 | nebula | isn't maria about to wreck fl again? |
| 20:39.24 | Semlar | my car needs a bilge pump so it's practically a boat |
| 20:39.31 | ls- | see? semlar nature is helping your |
| 20:40.18 | ls- | you* |
| 20:40.42 | Semlar | maria is unlikely to come anywhere near florida |
| 20:40.47 | Thunder_Child | Semlar: You can bypas the alternator. |
| 20:40.54 | Thunder_Child | So the car can start sans one. |
| 20:41.15 | znf | depends on the car |
| 20:41.28 | nebula | yea, i see that now, just gonna ride those islands east of cuba/the bahamas |
| 20:41.34 | Thunder_Child | No, you can always manually bypass it. |
| 20:41.40 | znf | Semlar, so what's your car issue? |
| 20:41.50 | nebula | it got wet |
| 20:41.57 | Thunder_Child | The trunk floods. |
| 20:41.58 | znf | does it crank? |
| 20:42.03 | Semlar | my car drives great |
| 20:42.12 | Semlar | it's just everything else that's wrong |
| 20:42.26 | znf | does it crank? |
| 20:42.55 | Semlar | if you mean the car with a broken alternator, that's from a craigslist ad |
| 20:43.05 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:43.15 | znf | do you have car issues or not? :D |
| 20:43.34 | Thunder_Child | He does. |
| 20:43.48 | Thunder_Child | His car retains more water than a pregnant woman. |
| 20:43.55 | nebula | "car runs great it is very relible" is usually not included with "mechanic special"s |
| 20:44.07 | Semlar | i mean, only if you consider the leaks and the broken ac and the windows not working as issues |
| 20:45.07 | Thunder_Child | Any reason you are not buying a new car? |
| 20:45.15 | Semlar | i don't have any money |
| 20:45.29 | Thunder_Child | I'm not sure that's a very good reason. |
| 20:45.33 | znf | sell kidney |
| 20:45.41 | Semlar | it seems like a pretty good reason |
| 20:45.46 | ls- | kidneys are cheap :p |
| 20:45.47 | Thunder_Child | I mean I don't think anyone on craigslist is going to give you one. |
| 20:46.00 | nebula | he may have a purdy mouth |
| 20:46.04 | ls- | I mean it's expensive to buy one, but if you're willing to sell one, tough luck... |
| 20:46.20 | Thunder_Child | nebula: But that's an exchange. |
| 20:49.02 | znf | also, alternators are not that complex parts, shouldn't be expensive |
| 20:49.09 | Semlar | $400 |
| 20:49.35 | Thunder_Child | Expensive being subjective. |
| 20:49.42 | znf | uhm, cheaper to fix |
| 20:50.08 | nebula | that's probably just the core cost, doubt fixing it would be any cheaper |
| 20:50.09 | Semlar | not counting the fact that i can't even see the alternator under the hood so it probably isn't that easy to get to |
| 20:51.24 | Semlar | it looks like they really crammed those components in there |
| 20:52.17 | Semlar | i would never even consider buying a car that can't be started and test driven |
| 20:53.15 | znf | car would start without an alternator just fine |
| 20:53.21 | znf | you just won't have power :D |
| 20:53.49 | Semlar | assuming the battery even holds a charge, you wouldn't get very far |
| 20:54.09 | Thunder_Child | Actually, if the only thing you used was the engine, you could go all day. |
| 20:54.19 | Thunder_Child | You would just have to charge it nightly. |
| 20:54.32 | znf | no power windows :D |
| 20:54.35 | Semlar | you gonna drive it without power steering? |
| 20:54.38 | znf | no power... locks? (how are they called in english?) |
| 20:54.54 | znf | no power steering! just consider it "workout" |
| 20:54.56 | znf | builds up a muscle |
| 20:55.00 | nebula | once it's moving, power steering doesn't do thaaaaat much |
| 20:55.23 | znf | but no, really, for a car from 2000, fixing the alternator should be less than $100 |
| 20:55.49 | nebula | yea, i didn't realize they were so cheap |
| 20:56.15 | znf | alternators are not that complex, they usually just blow their... not sure how it's called in english, "diode bridge"? |
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| 20:56.43 | Semlar | a quote to replace the alternator in this car is $524 |
| 20:56.48 | znf | "alternator rectifier bridge" |
| 20:56.54 | znf | Semlar, if you buy it new, probably... |
| 20:57.04 | Andols | oooh alternator is a generator |
| 20:57.11 | Semlar | $200 for the labor |
| 20:57.14 | Thunder_Child | Well, I don't think that's a very common car. |
| 20:57.22 | Thunder_Child | I could br wrong though, it is old. |
| 20:57.25 | Thunder_Child | be* |
| 20:57.28 | Semlar | it's not a common car |
| 20:58.10 | Semlar | and it has an engine that most people probably would have no idea how to work on if it came to that |
| 20:58.30 | Semlar | which is probably another good reason not to buy it |
| 20:58.38 | Thunder_Child | You mean mechanics? I don't think most people know how to work on any engine. |
| 20:58.44 | Semlar | yes, mechanics |
| 20:59.43 | Semlar | it has a miller cycle engine which is fairly uncommon |
| 21:01.20 | Thunder_Child | Wow, a whole 210 horsies. |
| 21:02.46 | znf | https://www.amazon.com/ALTERNATOR-MAZDA-MILLENIA-Engine-WARRANTY/dp/B00BPGWUA6 |
| 21:02.53 | znf | it's $110 new |
| 21:03.19 | Thunder_Child | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/terrifyingjellyfish/nour-experimental-food-art-game-interactive-food-s Ok, that is really weird. |
| 21:10.44 | kullervo | fairly mediocre weird |
| 21:10.52 | kullervo | I was expecting advanced weird |
| 21:21.13 | TheDanW | p3lim: we use relative paths in our xml, afaik they work fine? |
| 21:26.18 | p3lim | TheDanW: for fonts and texture paths? |
| 21:34.51 | Semlar | here kullervo http://store.steampowered.com/app/347720/Soda_Drinker_Pro/ |
| 21:41.14 | TheDanW | p3lim: i see, those won't work, it would actually be very complicated to support because we don't have that context to perform the mapping by the time we're ready to load textures |
| 21:41.40 | p3lim | yeah I figured |
| 22:01.00 | Torhal | I'm sure if you ask nicely, Semlar, Neffi will give you a car. |
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| 22:09.54 | nebula | he'll give him a ride atleast |
| 22:09.56 | nebula | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 22:50.33 | A-KO^^ | ohey |
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| 23:36.24 | Thunder_Child | I thought phone batteries were at the point where they don't have "charge memories". |
| 23:36.40 | Thunder_Child | My Nexus 6P keeps powering off at 25-30%. |
| 23:37.18 | Thunder_Child | My battery chart looks like a downhill slope the finds a cliff. |
| 23:37.36 | Thunder_Child | s/the/that/ |
| 23:37.49 | Torhal | Should've gotten a flip phone. |
| 23:37.51 | Torhal | >.> |
| 23:38.08 | Thunder_Child | Unsuprisingly google fi doesn't support that. |
| 23:38.29 | Thunder_Child | unsurprisingly* |
| 23:42.27 | Gnarfoz | from their marketing jibberjabber it reads as it would work with a tractor as long as it had an LTE modem |
| 23:42.59 | nebula | i thought it was targeted at a handful of high end phones |
| 23:43.16 | Thunder_Child | I just meant battery tech in general, I thought that was one of the advantages of lithium-ion. |
| 23:43.42 | Gnarfoz | it is, and what's wrong is either your phone's battery scale learning thing, or somethign else entirely |
| 23:43.45 | Mr_Rabies | i heard there were items to more quickly level followers in 7.3, but i haven't seen any yet |
| 23:43.47 | Torhal | The chemistry does break down after several charging cycles. |
| 23:44.07 | Torhal | But there's no such thing as "Shit, I only charged it half way!" |
| 23:44.12 | Gnarfoz | well, that's true for any rechargeable |
| 23:44.36 | Gnarfoz | (also, there is such a thing, just in less types of li-ion, or less pronounced) |
| 23:44.53 | Torhal | Well, relatively non-existent in comparison but yes. |
| 23:45.14 | Mr_Rabies | Thunder_Child: you could do the old "back up everything, run it down til it cuts off, rinse and repeat until it basically doesn't cut on at all anymore, then charge it to full and leave it plugged in for at least 24 hours" thing |
| 23:45.22 | Mr_Rabies | to attempt to recalibrate the battery sensors |
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| 23:45.36 | Gnarfoz | or, since you have easy access to root, delete the file. |
| 23:45.38 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:45.59 | Thunder_Child | I don't think it's the sensors, because it's lasting less than a day now, and my use of it has not really changed. |
| 23:46.15 | Gnarfoz | well, how old is it |
| 23:46.23 | Thunder_Child | Granted, it should still say the battery is almost dead. |
| 23:46.30 | Thunder_Child | Just about 2 years. |
| 23:47.13 | Gnarfoz | if you recharged it daily, that's already 730 charge cycles |
| 23:47.20 | Thunder_Child | Which I do. |
| 23:47.47 | Gnarfoz | not sure what its battery is rated at, but seeing "1000 cycles" in other batteries' descriptions isn't uncommon |
| 23:48.01 | Gnarfoz | so... I'd say the reduced capacity is to be expected; not sure about the powering off, though |
| 23:48.26 | Gnarfoz | wasn't there someone else in here a while back with a similar problem and it was a bug? :D |
| 23:49.46 | Mr_Rabies | my iphone 3GS still held a charge for over a day until i replaced it in february or so, and i got it like, at release |
| 23:50.32 | Thunder_Child | I could either replace it for ~$100 or just buy the new Pixel when it comes out in a month. |
| 23:51.07 | Thunder_Child | I looked into a battery case, but it trippled the thickness and weight. |
| 23:51.10 | Thunder_Child | So, no. |
| 23:51.17 | Mr_Rabies | sounds like pretty convenient timing |
| 23:51.19 | Gnarfoz | planned obsolescence ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 23:51.40 | Gnarfoz | (also, non-owner-replaceable batteries) |
| 23:52.18 | Thunder_Child | Well more and more, that's a thing due to construction. |
| 23:52.54 | Thunder_Child | I mean, I'm willing to put up with non-replaceable batteries for a thinner phone. |
| 23:54.30 | Gnarfoz | I'm not, because they were already pointlessly thing anyway |
| 23:55.58 | Gnarfoz | my S7 is the same depth as my S4 and yet, the latter had a replaceable battery ^^ |
| 23:56.01 | Torhal | TIL phones are pointlessly things. |
| 23:56.30 | Gnarfoz | that was uncalled for |
| 23:56.34 | Torhal | :/ |
| 23:56.40 | Thunder_Child | Well the S7 also has 5x the processing power. |
| 23:56.48 | Gnarfoz | that... |
| 23:56.52 | Gnarfoz | is utterly unrelated |
| 23:57.03 | Thunder_Child | That's where the extra space goes. |
| 23:57.10 | Gnarfoz | which extra space |
| 23:58.08 | Thunder_Child | Well it takes more space to have the battery replaceable. The space saved from that is put into more fiddly bits. |
| 23:58.28 | Thunder_Child | You really want to go back to http://elementaryspirits.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/old-cell-phone.jpg ? |
| 23:58.37 | Gnarfoz | the only thing for which that would be true is the actual battery capacity |
| 23:59.35 | nebula | i'd be fine with a https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2017/02/14/09/nokia3310.jpg |
| 23:59.58 | Torhal | No, nebula - with Thunder_Child's example, you could defend yourself. |
