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| 03:00.11 | Simca | that is disabled now btw, at least until they can fix the issue with tooltips |
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| 03:36.31 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: I got a new camera, haven't had much chance to play with it though (Battery needs chargig). Fuji X-T2 |
| 03:37.37 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: Nice, although Sony seems to be pulling quite far ahead when it comes to cameras. |
| 03:39.08 | Iriel | Sony was right behind Fuji in some of the reviews I was reading. |
| 03:39.18 | Iriel | (Nikon is sadly not even on the list when it comes to mirrorless |
| 03:40.40 | Thunder_Child | Well I was thinking of the Alpha line, but that starts at roughly double what the X-T2 does. |
| 03:41.30 | Iriel | The a6500 is comparable |
| 03:43.04 | Iriel | Interestingly this is the first 'real' camera I've had that shoots video, I was always one model off with Nikon gear. |
| 03:45.04 | Thunder_Child | The fact that none of the camera companies want to pay the camcorder taxes or whatever extra cost they have, means they tap out at ~30 min of record time. |
| 03:55.17 | Iriel | Hm, looks like I need to upgrade lightroom |
| 03:55.37 | Thunder_Child | I refuse till CC lets me install it to where I want. |
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| 04:41.41 | Simca | yeah, gotta admit i am not a fan of the modern 'put everything in appdata' approach |
| 04:42.48 | Simca | it can actually screw with performance too; SourceTree in particular, a repo management program, installs itself in appdata, and anti-virus scans go after intensely because of that choice, slowing the entire system down considerably when it is moving around huge amounts of data |
| 04:55.04 | Fisker | Simca AV should stop being shit though |
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| 11:46.06 | tz | wtb accounting for timezone differences in wow alerts |
| 11:46.51 | Fisker | accounting for how? |
| 11:46.52 | tz | "We will be performing scheduled maintenance beginning on {time:1504007199} ....." |
| 11:47.07 | tz | then it shows it in your current TZ |
| 11:47.16 | Fisker | why? |
| 11:47.29 | tz | because my brain doesn't like dealing with DST :P |
| 11:48.07 | Fisker | Why does it have to deal with DST? |
| 11:48.19 | Fisker | it's UTC |
| 11:48.31 | tz | it's PDT on mine |
| 11:48.37 | tz | PDT != AEST |
| 11:49.08 | Fisker | Oh |
| 11:49.14 | Fisker | I thought the timestamp was what it was already |
| 11:49.28 | Fisker | Not an example for how it should be |
| 11:50.02 | tz | I just figured it'd be easier if there was a tag or something they could put in, and it'd automagically update based on current machine's timezone |
| 11:50.31 | tz | then again, as a software dev, I understand that in general we don't make things easier for users ;) |
| 11:50.54 | tz | at any rate, 2h10m until shutdown, as far as I can tell |
| 11:51.51 | nebula | tz: yup |
| 11:51.59 | Fisker | The API should be UTC, but yeah the client could/should translate |
| 11:52.20 | Fisker | But yeah it has always been Paris/Irvine time depending on what region |
| 11:52.44 | Fisker | And it's kind of a mess, one time they forgot DST |
| 11:53.22 | Fisker | so it was technically an hour after/before the time they wrote |
| 11:55.08 | tz | last return value of GetBuildInfo() is the TOC version, yeah? |
| 11:55.18 | tz | so we expect 70300 afterwards |
| 11:55.57 | nebula | yea, the 4th return |
| 11:56.07 | tz | cool bananas |
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| 14:24.12 | VIad | the random>fixed weekly boss rotation, can't blizz just make it so all the bosses are up every week? :P at this point like a year away from next expansion anyway, won't make it through the full rotation + no r2 prolonged, bet it will spawn the last week before next expansion is launched |
| 14:29.13 | nevcairiel | how many bosses do you think there are and how many weeks a year has |
| 14:29.17 | nevcairiel | because one of those seems wrong |
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| 15:08.28 | VIad | because their fixed list is probably randomly generated and will have duplicate occurences of previous bosses, and end off just in time with the r2 prolonged boss end of expac :P |
| 15:09.05 | VIad | you thought they'd simply add all of the bosses in a randomized order? nah will probably semi-rng spawn them, just make sure each one spawns >0 times in a year rotation :D |
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| 18:53.39 | Ssateneth | What should I change to fix PlaySound? |
| 18:54.09 | Ssateneth | Example, PlaySound( "igMainMenuOptionCheckBoxOn" ); worked prepatch but now gives an error. Usage: PlaySound(soundKitID, optional["SFX","Music","Ambience", "Dialog" or "Master"], [forceNoDuplicates, runFinishCallback]) |
| 18:54.20 | Ssateneth | I dont know what soundKitID is |
| 18:57.17 | Gnarfoz | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ptr/SoundKitConstants.lua |
| 18:57.22 | Ssateneth | bahhhh, so i need to look through some table |
| 18:57.29 | Ssateneth | and guess which is the one i need |
| 18:57.30 | Ssateneth | rip |
| 18:57.43 | Ssateneth | that is annoying. why even do that ~_~ |
| 18:58.03 | Ssateneth | can I not play custom sounds anymore either then? |
| 18:58.05 | Gnarfoz | same reason as textures and such |
| 18:58.08 | Gnarfoz | yes you can |
| 18:58.12 | Gnarfoz | use the appropriate function |
| 18:58.17 | Gnarfoz | PlaySoundFile |
| 18:58.19 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55536 |
| 18:58.27 | Ssateneth | i'll leave bigwigs creators to figure that out then |
| 18:58.55 | Gnarfoz | figure what out? it's not like they weren't aware, I'm assuming it's already fixed |
| 18:59.44 | Ssateneth | probably. I'm just whiney because it broke a lot of stuff that I either need to wait for update, figure it out myself to fix, or disable the addon |
| 19:00.35 | Funkeh` | bigwigs has been fixed for months |
| 19:01.41 | Simca | yeah i have at least two different addons whining about it atm |
| 19:02.13 | Gnarfoz | blame people not keeping up to date (yeah yeah undocumented changes etc, wowinterface not being an official blizzard outlet and all that) |
| 19:02.51 | Simca | tbh i would have just rather them deleted playsound |
| 19:02.59 | Simca | because that is what they did basically |
| 19:03.09 | Simca | they deleted playsound and renamed playsoundkitID to playsound |
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| 19:03.31 | Simca | the rename just makes it worse - takes away information from the name. |
| 19:03.54 | Gnarfoz | yeah ^^ |
| 19:03.55 | Simca | and if you'd only had PlaySoundKitID and PlaySoundFile left, the distinction between the two would be very obvious then |
| 19:04.04 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 19:05.26 | foxlit | realistically, should've just implemented PlaySound in compat lua |
| 19:05.53 | Funkeh` | compat is for scrubs |
| 19:08.17 | foxlit | I mean, they're 90% of the way there already, since they ship a string -> ID table already. Should've made the keys in that table directly correspond to old string keys, and then it's a straightforward function PlaySound(key) return PlaySoundKitID(map[key])) end |
| 19:10.34 | Funkeh` | that tiny table is not exactly representative of the thousands of sounds they have |
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| 19:11.41 | foxlit | so what? |
| 19:12.57 | Funkeh` | "90%" :p |
| 19:13.12 | foxlit | presumably, it covers the igSoundWhatever aliases used by the UI pre-7.3 |
| 19:15.08 | Simca | the tiny table is cute |
| 19:15.53 | Simca | it's like they took the sounds they use, then scattered in a handful of things like the main menu themes from vanilla to WoD (legion would be obv either way) |
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| 19:44.48 | Ssateneth | soooooo uhhhhhhh |
| 19:45.01 | Ssateneth | anyone wanna take a shot at _devpad update? :D |
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| 19:58.26 | pompy | is there an updated chart of the % AP per AK for 7.3 anywhere? |
| 19:58.52 | Simca | i can post one rq |
| 20:02.41 | Ssateneth | So something got changed in that my lines in my _devpad pages dont line up with the cursor anymore |
| 20:02.46 | Ssateneth | Any idea what caused that? |
| 20:03.02 | Ssateneth | cursor appears lower than the actual line its on |
| 20:04.24 | Ssateneth | http://i.imgur.com/ZejEOVD.gifv |
| 20:04.28 | Primer | hrmm, can one redefine PlaySound() so that addons that use it but haven't been updated work? |
| 20:05.19 | Ssateneth | it only takes numbers and the table constant value equivalent |
| 20:05.59 | Ssateneth | if you remap the string to the equivalent number or table constant, it'll work, but that sounds like more work than what you want to do |
| 20:06.51 | Primer | meh, I just want to see what's in my bags |
| 20:07.46 | Primer | /run function PlaySound() return nil end |
| 20:07.48 | Primer | fixed |
| 20:12.35 | Simca | use playsoundfile instead |
| 20:14.16 | bshelden | Just had a friend of mine say he went through the effort to switch everything to ids. |
| 20:14.47 | Primer | meh, opening my bags plays no sound, yet fails due to the change |
| 20:15.26 | pompy | adibags? |
| 20:15.48 | pompy | there's about 19 lines of the sound code to change |
| 20:16.27 | pompy | 9* |
| 20:29.06 | foxlit | https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/item-name-localized << eep. |
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| 20:37.09 | Gnarfoz | LibBabbleItem? ;p |
| 20:37.50 | nevcairiel | why cant you just link shit to people like any normal person |
| 20:40.45 | Ssateneth | Is there a SpiralofHope here (or his alias?) |
| 20:41.10 | Ssateneth | i wanna bribe him for _devpad updates, because of sound changes and cursor being in the wrong spot |
| 20:43.08 | foxlit | https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/lowered-combat-sounds/files/2441747 << casual 211 MB zip. |
| 20:50.01 | Simca | https://www.curseforge.com/paste/e0f0bf93 @pompy |
| 20:50.57 | Ssateneth | that casual 1 at the end of each one |
| 20:55.25 | Simca | yeah it's because blizzard shows them ingame as % increase |
| 20:56.00 | Simca | so they do: valueShownToUser = (realValue - 1) * 100 |
| 20:56.48 | nevcairiel | they started doing that only since 7.2 or whenever, 25 was still plain 250, but i guess people didnt like the 24900% increase |
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| 21:06.28 | VIad | Ssateneth: is that you, shetaneth? |
| 21:06.38 | VIad | warlock on darksorrow |
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| 21:07.29 | Ssateneth | nope |
| 21:07.37 | VIad | so close |
| 21:07.47 | VIad | :d |
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| 21:17.58 | foxlit | https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/wut/#q:#e:warn.playsound.stringkey |
| 21:18.41 | nevcairiel | does it catch fallback things like PlaySound(SOUNDKIT and SOUNDKIT.foo or "foo")? |
| 21:20.54 | foxlit | it won't whine about that; I can't resolve conditionals, so even PlaySound(cnd and "thisOne" or "thatOne") is ignored. |
| 21:29.47 | pompy | Simca: thanks |
| 21:52.09 | Ssateneth | ay Torhal, is your hand in _devpad completely gone now? I saw in some logs you refered to being a author or maintainer for _devpad but its not found on curseforge now. |
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| 22:24.18 | foxlit | so the playsound change affected about 1k addons out of the 4.4k I have. |
| 22:27.34 | foxlit | or 1k/4k with some name-based deduplication between addon sites. |
| 22:32.12 | Simca | nice. |
| 22:33.04 | Simca | having to alter 25% of the addons in the game for a change is pretty far up there in the realm of breaking changes |
| 22:33.30 | foxlit | nobody could've seen this coming! |
| 22:34.13 | schlumpf | just another good indicator of what addons you don't need at all |
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| 23:10.07 | Andols | jnwhiteh: I'm in Stockholm for a couple of days if you got the time to say hello :) |
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