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| 12:40.47 | ls- | TheDanW: sup, here's another one for you, included code and gifs to show what's going on. http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=324831 |
| 12:41.35 | ls- | TheDanW: tl;dr: SetClipsChildren is kinda broken :p |
| 13:08.52 | znf | hmm, if I start the elite strike missions now, they're not gonna end until 7.3 :-S |
| 13:09.07 | znf | so there's no use for shards or resources |
| 13:09.13 | znf | s/resources/supplies |
| 13:11.29 | ls- | wut? why? if you have well-equipped slaves it'll take 36-52 hours to complete it o_O |
| 13:14.13 | znf | base mision time is 3 days? |
| 13:14.20 | znf | I don't use "reduces mission duration" items on my minions |
| 13:17.07 | ls- | that's the only type of items I use o_O I normally use +15/30% w/ certain troops, legendary if available and duration reduction item |
| 13:25.18 | znf | you're the first person I hear that uses those mission duration items |
| 13:25.21 | znf | I only use +% chance |
| 13:26.32 | ls- | why? in many cases they're useless... you can easily hit 200% even on any mission w/o them... |
| 13:27.28 | ls- | esp if you use +15% and +30% w/ second tier troops on each follower |
| 13:27.35 | znf | if you counter the thingies, sure |
| 13:27.48 | znf | who the hell uses 2nd tier troops? :-| |
| 13:27.51 | znf | weirdo |
| 13:27.54 | znf | :-o |
| 13:27.57 | ls- | wut? |
| 13:28.08 | ls- | like why use first tier followers? |
| 13:28.25 | ls- | they're junk |
| 13:28.35 | znf | because the other order hall tree is better than the better-minions? |
| 13:31.31 | ls- | welp, by 2nd tier I mean "Ebon Ravagers", you get them via tier 4 order hall talent |
| 13:32.05 | znf | yes |
| 13:32.09 | znf | and priest has a better one than that |
| 13:32.45 | ls- | do you mean tier 6 talent? |
| 13:32.53 | znf | no, I mean tier 4 |
| 13:32.54 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/wIS99Ip.png |
| 13:33.19 | ls- | yeah, that's what I meant |
| 13:33.50 | znf | the alternative is better for us |
| 13:34.17 | ls- | ah, k then... |
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| 13:35.24 | spaten | isnt the alternative another tier 2 slave? |
| 13:37.09 | znf | https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/class-order-halls-resources-and-advancements-upgrades |
| 13:37.21 | znf | Priest Tier 4 has: |
| 13:37.32 | znf | - Acolytes -> Paragons, +5% chance increase |
| 13:37.33 | znf | which is crap |
| 13:37.56 | znf | - +15% chance increase when paired with Shadow champions |
| 13:39.00 | ls- | welp,that's exactly what I was talking about... DK's Ebon Ravagers are priest's Dark Zealots |
| 13:39.21 | spaten | tier1 slave->base without advancement |
| 13:39.38 | spaten | tier2 slave->upgraded with orderhall advancement |
| 13:39.46 | znf | you get Dark Zealots anyway |
| 13:39.57 | znf | priests have Acolytes and Dark Zealots |
| 13:40.23 | spaten | priests have acolyts and normal zealots |
| 13:40.37 | ls- | you get dark zealots if you take shadow heresy (T4 talent) |
| 13:40.45 | znf | you're right |
| 13:41.40 | spaten | damn, this irc channel is full. normaly just a few people talk here |
| 13:41.46 | znf | but the choice is either you get Dark Zealots or Paragons |
| 13:42.08 | ls- | so just give all your followers 2 items that boost mission success chance by 45% if they're w/ Dark Zealots, that's +90% if you send champ+champ+troop |
| 13:42.44 | ls- | that's a huge bonus, that's why the 3rd item I use is for duration reduction |
| 13:43.17 | ls- | if I get a good legendary for my slave, I replace +15% item w/ it |
| 13:43.28 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/df3d1Q4.png + http://i.imgur.com/VKZSoU1.png + http://i.imgur.com/KbMNocq.png |
| 13:43.34 | znf | and it's already Shadow |
| 13:43.36 | znf | so +15 to that |
| 13:43.55 | znf | and 30% from the actual troop |
| 13:44.18 | ls- | ugh, epic item for troops is +20% T_T sorry |
| 13:44.33 | ls- | so it's +15% +20% and duration reduction |
| 13:46.24 | ls- | I easily get 100+% on elite strikes, but mission time is greatly reduced |
| 13:49.02 | znf | they don't have anything else to do anyway |
| 13:49.40 | ls- | well, my slaves either do gold missions or elite strikes... |
| 13:50.01 | ls- | if neither are present I do AP missions >_> |
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| 13:57.08 | ls- | yeah, I think so... |
| 13:57.58 | ls- | wrong window... |
| 14:16.02 | fewyn | uggggh why didn't i look into this earlier |
| 14:16.14 | fewyn | my original phone plans for travel to aus fell through |
| 14:16.22 | fewyn | now i need an unlocked phone in less than 24 hours |
| 14:16.49 | fewyn | the only 2 phones i can find with one-day pickup on amazon are https://www.amazon.com/Alcatel-Ideal-Unlocked-Android-Desbloqueado/dp/B01M24QYPN/ref=sr_1_3 or https://www.amazon.com/DOOGEE-Unlocked-Cell-Phones-International/dp/B0736RZ1K5/ref=sr_1_5 |
| 14:17.04 | fewyn | (that are in my price range) |
| 14:17.36 | fewyn | anyone got any other ideas in here by chance? |
| 14:21.21 | Andols | Buy a phone there? |
| 14:31.44 | fewyn | $$$ |
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| 15:22.01 | znf | fewyn, why isn't your telco unlocking your phone? |
| 15:23.57 | kullervo | I don't quite understand the concept of your phone being "locked" like that |
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| 15:29.16 | znf | kullervo, subsidized |
| 15:29.43 | znf | they give you a cheap phone, they "cover" the costs (well, you do, because you pay a high monthly subscription) |
| 15:29.59 | znf | and they stop you from using that device on another network |
| 15:39.23 | fewyn | they don't really do it that way anymore znf |
| 15:39.30 | znf | I know they don't |
| 15:39.34 | znf | Some still do tough :P |
| 15:39.34 | fewyn | we mostly buy the phone now but on a monthly plan |
| 15:39.44 | fewyn | at least that's how most carriers work |
| 15:39.48 | fewyn | they lock the phone until you pay it off |
| 15:39.58 | fewyn | my iphone 7 is about half way through the payment plan |
| 15:40.39 | fewyn | the plan was to use AT&T Passport to use my plan while in aus... but they mislead me and it actually only gives me 800mb of data for 60$ |
| 15:40.47 | fewyn | for 30 days |
| 15:41.01 | fewyn | so i needed an unlocked phone so i can get a sim card while in aus |
| 15:41.18 | fewyn | i just found an unlocked iphone |
| 15:41.21 | fewyn | from a friend |
| 15:41.24 | fewyn | so i'm going to use it |
| 15:41.27 | fewyn | sadly it's a 5c |
| 15:41.33 | fewyn | but it'll do |
| 16:03.01 | foxlit | US mobile carriers are rather... sad... when compared to the rest of the world. |
| 16:03.07 | fewyn | i agree |
| 16:03.24 | fewyn | we pay 350$ a month for 5 phones right now |
| 16:04.09 | foxlit | did you buy 5 solid hold iphone 9s and have them financed over 24 months or something? |
| 16:04.18 | foxlit | s/hold/gold/ |
| 16:04.36 | znf | jesus |
| 16:04.37 | fewyn | so we pay 10-15$ a month on each phone over 24 months yes |
| 16:04.40 | znf | $350?! :-| |
| 16:04.41 | fewyn | depending on which phone we got |
| 16:04.49 | fewyn | then we have unlimited/talk/text/data |
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| 16:06.32 | znf | my last phone bill was 27.73 RON, which is $7.20 |
| 16:06.49 | znf | unlimited calls, 50GB data |
| 16:07.02 | foxlit | convert to bigmacs, stat! |
| 16:07.43 | znf | 2 and a half? |
| 16:07.58 | foxlit | that's some expensive bigmacs :/ |
| 16:08.24 | znf | a big mac is like $2 and something? |
| 16:08.25 | foxlit | (but yes, the basic monthly plan prices are silly. I think ATT wanted like 60$ for a whatever talk/2GB/1 month about two years ago) |
| 16:08.27 | Stanzilla | bigmac is like 4.50 euro here? |
| 16:08.42 | Stanzilla | probably more |
| 16:08.56 | foxlit | I think the 4.50 number includes coke and fries. |
| 16:09.25 | znf | not expensive big-mac |
| 16:09.29 | znf | it's just cheap mobile plan |
| 16:09.33 | Stanzilla | https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21685489-big-currency-devaluations-are-not-boosting-exports-much-they-used-after |
| 16:09.35 | Stanzilla | N I C E |
| 16:09.45 | Stanzilla | the big mac index |
| 16:12.41 | foxlit | I don't think anyone is even willing to sell you a 50GB/month mobile plan in the UK. |
| 16:13.48 | foxlit | (mobile broadband, maybe, but that doesn't do actual calls) |
| 16:14.09 | Thunder_Child | Fi will. |
| 16:14.19 | Thunder_Child | But then you get to pick your GB. |
| 16:14.19 | znf | funny enough, my telco doesn't offer that high mobile broadband that high |
| 16:14.27 | znf | it was like 5GB last time I checked |
| 16:14.36 | Thunder_Child | And it's $10/GB |
| 16:15.17 | znf | meanwhile, fuck whoever invented apparmor |
| 16:15.50 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: and you can't buy it in the UK :) |
| 16:16.35 | Thunder_Child | Ah, missed that bit. |
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| 17:08.25 | Gnarfoz | I'm going to go ahead and assume you're wasting money on unlimited talk/text, fewyn - are you sure you use enough of that to warrant unlimited? |
| 17:10.05 | Gnarfoz | (US cell situation being insane set aside for a moment) |
| 17:11.36 | foxlit | typically gets bundled with data anyway |
| 17:11.58 | fewyn | we need unlimited data |
| 17:13.56 | fewyn | we used about 100gb last month |
| 17:14.00 | fewyn | between 5 people |
| 17:33.23 | znf | the whole concept of family/shared plans are so weird to me |
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| 17:36.48 | fewyn | it ends up being cheaper |
| 17:36.55 | fewyn | for everyone |
| 17:39.37 | znf | you pay $350, I wouldn't call that cheap |
| 17:40.05 | fewyn | that's cheap for america for unlimited everything |
| 17:40.12 | fewyn | for 5 phones |
| 17:41.51 | znf | that's basically $70/phone :o |
| 17:51.23 | fewyn | yep |
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| 17:53.09 | znf | how many big macs? |
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| 17:57.32 | fewyn | https://www.bing.com/search?FORM=BDT5DF&PC=BDT5&q=70+usd+to+big+macs |
| 17:57.44 | fewyn | http://www.bigmacindexconverter.com/ |
| 17:57.47 | fewyn | that's a real thing |
| 18:00.00 | fewyn | The implied value of 70 USD in Euro Area according to the Big Mac Index is 51.64 EUR. At this exchange rate purchasing power parity exists, and 70 USD buys 13.21 Big Macs in both countries. |
| 18:00.03 | fewyn | The real value of 70 USD at market exchange rates is 61.30 EUR. There's no purchasing power parity as 70 USD buys 13.21 Big Macs in United States but 15.68 Big Macs in Euro Area. In other words that means that if something costs 70 USD in United States, in order for it to have the same perceived value pricing in Euro Area, it has to be priced at 51.64 EUR. |
| 18:00.05 | fewyn | If we calculate backwards the implied value of 51.64 EUR is 70 USD and the real market value of 51.64 EUR is 58.97 USD. In other words that means that in terms of actual purchasing power, having 70 USD in Euro Area would be the same as having 83.09 USD in United States. |
| 18:03.12 | znf | no romania there :( |
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| 18:51.06 | jnwhiteh | Random question.. if you're using Google Maps in a country that uses Cyrillic, any way to get it to show latin names? |
| 18:51.24 | jnwhiteh | My friend is visiting Serbia from Sweden and he's getting confused |
| 19:03.51 | Gnarfoz | it shows them by default if language is set to english |
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| 22:52.15 | znf | best potg: https://gfycat.com/downrightdefensiveilsamochadegu |
| 23:00.41 | foxlit | znf: with no overwatch knowledge, can't tell if that's some brilliant tactics or someone doing absolutely nothing useful. |
| 23:01.09 | znf | foxlit, symmetra and torbjorn are 2 heroes that primarly use turrets |
| 23:01.15 | znf | and those turrets usually kill for them |
| 23:01.44 | znf | it's funny because when one of those heroes get play of the game, usually they get "caught" by the camera doing completely something else |
| 23:02.13 | znf | like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiMJ-s4T16M |
| 23:02.57 | znf | or this, when torb was caught trying to sneak a peak: https://gfycat.com/OffbeatCloudyDogfish |
