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15:38.07VIadmy bagnon is misbehaving even with clean install :'(
15:38.09VIad#rip bagnon
15:38.13VIadyou will be missed
15:44.40VIadbank now showing, search box not opening, opacity issues on buttons (they load fine, toggling bags makes them appear semi-darkened)
15:44.47VIadI bitched about this a while ago :p
15:45.58VIadmight be some cooldown/aurora issue :(
15:47.01VIaddamn it, aurora
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16:28.54AndolsYou found the problem?
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17:36.24Gnarfozit's a Bagnon issue alright ;-)
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18:57.39Andols_I found your car VIad :)
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19:10.16zenzelezzso recently, for some bizarre reason, Windows [10] has decided to randomly hang 1/? (more seldom than 1/20) when I alt+tab out of World of Tanks. And I have _not_ upgraded video drivers or anything
19:10.20zenzelezzmight be the game
19:10.30zenzelezzwhatever it is, it's annoying
19:14.39zenzelezzseems to be mostly when it's in the process of switchign from in-game to garage... which is typically when I want to alt+tab
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19:20.54Gnarfozthe old adage is: it's your RAM
19:23.33zenzelezzon this motherboard, it would not surprise me, if the game had not run flawlessly for eight months (when I bought it). Had to fight the motherboard to find the right RAM slot combination to get it to boot
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19:38.58Thunder_ChildGnarfoz: He will download some more later.
19:49.19zenzelezzalso true
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19:52.02zenzelezzhttp://moarhardware.com/ (friend does, or did, use to own that)
20:09.36foxlitwhat is this grammatically terrible language?
20:10.15foxlit<PROTECTED>
20:11.02Andols_ask VIad
20:11.15foxlitthe queen disapproves.
20:13.28zenzelezzfoxlit: it's a Norwegian trying to write "funny hardware stuff"
20:14.29zenzelezz"Q: My application does not run fast enough, can I get more hardware? A: No, fix your code"
20:14.43Thunder_ChildFunny that is not.
20:14.58Thunder_ChildOr perhaps it looses something in the translation.
20:15.04Thunder_Childloses*
20:15.19zenzelezzI never claimed it was funny \o/
20:15.33foxlit"No, fix code your"
20:15.52zenzelezzno, that's if you transalte word by word
20:16.03zenzelezzor if you _translate_ word by word
20:16.24zenzelezzslightly different sentence structure
20:16.29foxlitis norwegian insane enough to attach possessive modifiers as a suffix?
20:16.49schlumpf> norwegian
20:16.54zenzelezzoccasionally foxlit
20:17.09Maldiviafoxlit: yes?
20:17.13zenzelezzthough both "din kode" and "koden din" are valid
20:17.40zenzelezz"din kode" is considered bad grammar in that sentence
20:17.50zenzelezzbut not technically wrong
20:17.54Maldiviazenzelezz: no, it would be considered Danish :D
20:18.09Maldivia... so yeah, bad grammar
20:18.09zenzelezzMaldivia: so tempted to say "well then it's wrong"
20:18.16zenzelezzdamnit, quit pre-empting my jokes
20:18.40Thunder_ChildGet your jokes out faster.
20:19.26zenzelezzmy dialect is actually sometimes called "reserve Danish" here. Though it's actually nothing like actual Danish, just possibly the closest spelling-wise
20:20.26zenzelezzwe don't have as many random commas in Norwegian
20:20.41foxlithey now, no commas are ever random!
20:20.50Maldiviayeah, I carpet-bomb commas into my sentences :D
20:20.51zenzelezztrue enough
20:21.33zenzelezzbut if you read Danish sentences as Norwegian, those commas make it weird. We're taught that "comma is a breathing space" (in poor English)
20:23.34zenzelezznot that that hels young Norwegians these days
20:23.45zenzelezzthey either write English, with absolutely no commas
20:23.55zenzelezzor, commas, all, the, time
20:24.26foxlit"I like breathing, though!"
20:24.37Maldiviajust add full-stops instead
20:24.39foxlit"Better, not, run out, of, breath."
20:25.09zenzelezzMaldivia: in that case I've been reading Danish wrong all these years... that is, all three times
20:25.41Thunder_ChildAh, dependant clause.
20:25.43foxlit(really, just strike everything that appears between a pair of commas. Can't possibly be important.)
20:25.47zenzelezzI jest, of course; Danish comes up more often... because for some reason Norwegian athletes keep going to Denmark
20:25.47MaldiviaI think the new comma rules in Danish is something like: add it where you feel it fits.
20:25.47Thunder_Childdependent*
20:29.05zenzelezzto me, English always feels like the odd language out in Europe. Generally you have your Latin or your Germanic languages
20:29.15zenzelezzthen you have English which is more "we can't decide"
20:29.35Thunder_ChildIt's a combo language.
20:30.03zenzelezzI talk positively about my language, but it's basically a bastardized version of Danish + German
20:30.28foxlitjust danish, really. that throws in the german for free.
20:30.46zenzelezzshhhh
20:31.32Thunder_ChildI assume you mean Nyorsk?
20:31.44zenzelezznegatory
20:31.46Thunder_ChildNynorsk*
20:31.46zenzelezzthat's... weird
20:32.12zenzelezzthat's actually more genuine Norwegian; but most of Norway don't speak it (we do still have it, barely, in school)
20:32.17Thunder_ChildBokmål?
20:32.27zenzelezzthat's the "normal" one, yeah
20:32.37zenzelezztransalted, it's something like "book language"
20:32.42zenzelezz*translated
20:34.15zenzelezzit's true though. Norwegian (bokmål) is basically Danish with slightly different pronunciation and some consonants substituded (generally b/d/g to p/t/k, but not in all circumstances)
20:34.36zenzelezz"kjøb" => "kjøp", etc.
20:34.54Thunder_ChildJust speak esperanto and be done with it all.
20:34.59foxlitand j inserted just for the hell of it, apparently.
20:35.08zenzelezzfoxlit: also true
20:35.20zenzelezzwe probably just needed to make it feel "ours"
20:35.42Thunder_ChildThat just means adding lots of silent letters.
20:35.47Thunder_ChildWhich is horrible.
20:36.21zenzelezzdon't get me started on our "question words"
20:36.45zenzelezzwhere, which, why, etc... "hvor, hvilken, hvorfor", etc... where the H is silent
20:36.57zenzelezzapparently in ye olde days the H was not silent
20:37.06foxlitit's not like you can screw up the danish pronounciation system any further.
20:37.18zenzelezzthat is absolutely true
20:37.48Thunder_ChildHey, all languages have problems.  In english the old school y had a th sound so 'ye -> the' and 'thou -> you', because lets randomly flip things around.
20:37.55zenzelezznow, obviously I see things from a Norwegian perspective... but I can read Danish just fine, even if some words have different meaning, but the pronunciation often sounds (to me) nothing like the writing
20:38.41zenzelezzThunder_Child: very true. I swear 200-300 years ago someone was sitting around drinking... beer, or ale, or whatever they had then... going "dudes, let's fuck with later generations"
20:40.03Thunder_Childzenzelezz: Not even that long ago.  Like ~5-10 years ago 'figuratively' was added to the definition of 'litteraly'.
20:40.09Thunder_ChildI hate people so much.
20:40.15zenzelezzThunder_Child: ... wait, what?
20:40.32Thunder_ChildBecause the misuse because so commonplace, it got added.
20:41.02foxlitand now it's no longer misuse!
20:41.03foxlit<3
20:42.09Thunder_Child~lart foxlit
20:42.09purlfarts in foxlit's general direction
20:42.30zenzelezzoh, purl is still here? People don't seem to use her as much as before
20:42.40Thunder_Child~whaleslap zenzelezz
20:42.40purlACTION beats zenzelezz upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
20:42.45zenzelezzmay have to change my emulate then
20:42.49zenzelezz~emulate zenzelezz
20:42.49purlOMG STOP TALKIN TO TEH BOT!
20:43.03zenzelezznow what was the command...
20:43.11zenzelezz~literal emulate zenzelezz
20:43.11purl"emulate zenzelezz" is "<reply> OMG STOP TALKIN TO TEH BOT!"
20:43.42zenzelezzdoes not say when :(
20:43.50zenzelezzwas not me that added it
20:44.23foxlit~factinfo emulate zenzelezz
20:44.23purlerror: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required)
20:44.23purlemulate zenzelezz -- last modified at Tue Oct  2 20:00:46 2007 by JoshBorke!n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu; it has been requested 16 times, last by zenzelezz, 1m 34s ago.
20:44.56zenzelezzoh, that was the one I was thinking of; cheers
20:44.58zenzelezzdear god...
20:45.00zenzelezz10 years ago
20:45.13zenzelezzI guess time does pass
20:45.32foxlitThunder_Child: Merriam-Webster writes "the entry for literally in our 1909 unabridged dictionary states that the word is “often used hyperbolically; as, he literally flew.”"
21:07.03InfusTheDanW: is there a way to distinguish between pet dungeon scenarios and other scenarios without a hardcoded list?
21:09.58Thunder_Childfoxlit: Yes, but not as a bullet point.
21:10.05Thunder_ChildAs far as I know.
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21:13.21Funkeh`Infus, nothing in GetInstanceInfo?
21:13.31Infusnot as far as I can tell
21:13.36Infushttps://www.wowace.com/projects/weakauras-2/issues/1025
21:14.10InfusBoth "Chromie" and the pet dungeons have the almost indentical output
21:14.31foxlitdo the pet dungeons prevent you from using the heal ability?
21:15.22foxlitCT used to do that via a debuff; haven't really bothered with pets since mists.
21:15.44InfusI have no clue about pet dungeons
21:15.54Stanzillathey do, but only in serious mode
21:16.01Stanzillathey also have a trial mode for the first time where you can heal
21:21.01TheDanWInfus: can't claim i'm an expert on pet dungeons, but afaik there's no way to tell from static data
21:21.29Fiskerno that's the thing, everyone can claim to be an expert
21:21.45InfusI wouldn't claim that this is a major problem, but feel free to add something :)
21:21.59zenzelezzpfft, we know they call you "Dungeon Master TheDanW"
21:22.46Thunder_ChildYes, but not because of wow....
21:23.02zenzelezzdetails
21:23.48Thunder_ChildContext.
21:23.52FiskerIs it because of dungeon keeper?
21:25.18zenzelezzdon't be stupid Fisker, it's because of BD
21:25.37FiskerBlu-ray?
21:28.39zenzelezzyes, Blu-Day
21:31.16FiskerBlu-ray*
21:31.35zenzelezzbut that does not match with BD... and not at all with our dicussion
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23:27.36Ermadhey, I have been getting a lot of comments that one of my addons hasn't been working for the past day. it seems the that the addon communication channel isn't send/receiving any data for them (even version check doesn't work). has there been any change in this area recently (this addon  hasnt been changed in a long time)?
23:27.48Ermadin testing it myself I cant reproduce any issue
23:28.15nevcairieldo you register your prefix? they had that off for a long time, but maybe it got turned on in some places
23:28.23Ermadyea it uses a prefix
23:29.13nevcairielso you call RegisterAddonMessagePrefix with that?
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23:30.33ErmadI am using AceComm for it, but I call it with self:RegisterComm(comPrefix, ...) and self:SendCommMessage(comPrefix, ...)
23:30.42nevcairielit should call that for you then
23:33.28ls-TheDanW: Hi, could you please add GetItemQuestInfo func that does the same thingy as GetContainerItemQuestInfo, but uses item links instead of bag, slot indices?
23:41.18TheDanWls-: you want the quest ID?
23:42.03ls-TheDanW: yeah, I want first two returns of GetContainerItemQuestInfo: isQuestItem, questId
23:42.12ls-well questID should suffice
23:42.29ls-cuz if it's not nil then it's a quest item
23:43.42TheDanWeffectively yeah
23:44.50ls-you may add it to GetItemInfo as 18th return, if you want :D
23:45.13ls-to avoid confusion among ppl, cuz there's GetQuestItemInfo that does different stuff
23:47.07ls-oh, TheDanW, having 3rd return of GetContainerItemQuestInfo: isActive, would be quite helpful too T_T
23:47.10ls-forgot about it
23:47.17ls-just woke up, sorry :D
23:47.28nevcairielyou can just scan for that yourself if you must :p
23:47.32nevcairielif you know the id
23:48.43ls-kinda, but why do extra work if they can supply this info? :D I mean they already do so via another func that's not so user-friendly T_T
23:51.27TheDanWGetContainerItemQuestInfo shouldn't do that
23:51.47ls-https://wow.gamepedia.com/API_GetContainerItemQuestInfo O_o
23:51.48TheDanWbut it has for at least 7 years
23:51.55TheDanWso i'm not changing it
23:52.03ls-isActive: Flag - 1 if the quest this item starts has been accepted by the player, nil otherwise.
23:52.47ls-oh well, questID is enough :D
23:53.02TheDanWi'll add it to the list, don't expect it for 7.3
23:53.42ls-noice, ty ty
23:55.46[TOM_RUS]TheDanW: was itemid/link -> reward AP amount API added in 7.3?

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