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| 11:38.21 | Industrial | slaps purl with a fish |
| 11:38.27 | Industrial | slaps purl with a trout |
| 11:38.33 | Industrial | darn :P |
| 12:03.20 | znf | oh yes |
| 12:03.22 | znf | LFR KJ is fun |
| 12:16.44 | VIad | znf: read each missed arma = 1x determination buff - is it true? |
| 12:17.05 | VIad | if you pull and soak nothing the first arma, insta 6 determination stacks? :D |
| 12:17.55 | VIad | karl_w_w: doesn't seen Redeye/Paul Chaloner will be on TI17 :( |
| 12:18.15 | VIad | we got day9/sean plott instead along side machiene/alex richardson |
| 12:20.55 | znf | am I assuming corectly that Illidan is in the same place on LFR? |
| 12:20.57 | znf | every time? |
| 12:21.09 | VIad | if that phase exists I'd assume :P |
| 12:21.18 | VIad | or you got like 1-2 adds max |
| 12:21.33 | VIad | or no adds, you just find illidan and the phase ends |
| 12:21.47 | znf | we've wiped on it the 2nd time now :P |
| 12:22.00 | znf | and both times Illidan was in the same place |
| 12:22.23 | znf | not sure if it's a coincidence |
| 12:22.28 | VIad | you can pull KJ to the edge when you have those 10 seconds of DPS time and no mechanics to bait illidan and adds to spawn in that corner |
| 12:22.51 | VIad | only need to look for him in 1/4 of the platform and adds are pre-stacked, easier to grip |
| 12:26.09 | VIad | znf: talk to me, bud |
| 12:28.31 | znf | we wiped, what's to talk about? |
| 12:28.49 | VIad | how many determination stacks? |
| 12:28.52 | znf | 3 |
| 12:28.55 | znf | but it's the 4th wipe |
| 12:29.00 | znf | now 4 |
| 12:29.10 | znf | remember you don't get a determination stack if you wipe too fast :D |
| 12:29.11 | VIad | how much hp does the boss have? |
| 12:29.34 | VIad | is it carryable by tanks like guldan was? |
| 12:30.31 | znf | 3981mil |
| 12:31.08 | znf | we haven't made it past the shadow phase, so no idea what you're asking |
| 12:31.35 | VIad | ,_, |
| 12:36.43 | VIad | I'll get my 5 guildies and see if we can 5 man carry the LFR group later |
| 12:36.50 | znf | ok, my theory is bust |
| 12:36.58 | znf | it doesn't spawn in the same place |
| 12:37.30 | VIad | time to have the hunters and druids track humanoids, zoom in and ping where he is :d |
| 12:37.47 | znf | it's LFR |
| 12:37.57 | znf | and no, you won't be able to carry the group |
| 12:38.00 | VIad | time to wipe to 10 determination and just survive |
| 12:38.10 | VIad | try get 10 people alive in last phase |
| 12:38.22 | znf | you won't be able to soak all the pools |
| 12:38.29 | znf | you won't be able to get people to move out of the middle |
| 12:38.32 | VIad | its like archimonde, lfr had to improve :p |
| 12:46.25 | VIad | znf: have you killed KJ on normal? just curious how much you are contributing :D |
| 12:49.20 | znf | no I haven't, but I know what to do |
| 12:50.01 | VIad | at least the tank armageddon isnt there |
| 12:50.07 | VIad | imagine having someone to immune it :x |
| 12:50.08 | znf | yeah, once you get past the darkness phase, it's a kill |
| 12:50.39 | znf | also, yay |
| 12:50.41 | znf | I got another fucking ring |
| 12:50.48 | nevcairiel | the tank could just go and soak it, immuning is for sissies =p |
| 12:51.03 | nevcairiel | we always played with soaking on normal |
| 12:51.36 | nevcairiel | on hero its just so much safer to immune it though |
| 12:51.42 | VIad | tanks wont be able to soak that much in p2 when he lands |
| 12:51.54 | nevcairiel | on normal its fine |
| 12:52.02 | nevcairiel | only one tank needs to tank |
| 12:52.03 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 12:52.11 | VIad | :x |
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| 13:14.57 | znf | man, people getting their panties in a bunch when a dps queues up as a healer (no, not me) |
| 13:16.01 | nevcairiel | If all of them do, noone heals anymore |
| 13:16.06 | kullervo | because the group might want a healer |
| 13:16.14 | nevcairiel | Maybe you should just heal then |
| 13:16.23 | VIad | tank queue is usually slow because most times it builds around a fresh group, may be for healers too |
| 13:16.33 | VIad | often single dps queue can get into existing groups pretty quick |
| 13:16.49 | nevcairiel | Noone wants half done groups tho :p |
| 13:17.12 | VIad | tbh a healer class that can queue for lfr, can probably pull the required HPS numbers :P |
| 13:17.29 | VIad | wouldnt be a issue if you just go to your heal spec and use it I guess ;) |
| 13:18.12 | kullervo | if I ever healed in lfr I just tried to max out my dps while not letting people die |
| 13:18.59 | VIad | a healer that can DPS when there is nothing to heal? burn the witch |
| 13:19.09 | VIad | thats usually advanced healer strats :P |
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| 13:22.39 | znf | nevcairiel, if the group progresses, I see no issue |
| 13:22.54 | znf | also that was noticed /after/ the 1st boss, nobody died, no wipes, no issues |
| 13:23.00 | znf | so no point in bringing it up |
| 13:23.34 | VIad | I only want the end boss for the mission quest, so I dont mind to end up in a group that had their tankl eave after 3 wipes on last boss of the wing :D |
| 13:27.46 | znf | oh, I'm having fun with recruiters on linkedin today |
| 13:27.50 | znf | lady approaches me |
| 13:28.07 | VIad | "ASL?" |
| 13:28.14 | znf | I fire the "if your maximum budget is under X ammount, let's not waste our time" |
| 13:28.26 | VIad | "ASL???" |
| 13:28.29 | znf | She goes back to "it's premature to discuss about budgets before I evaluate your knowledge" |
| 13:28.33 | znf | no thanks, lady |
| 13:28.54 | VIad | thought you met a bot :d |
| 13:33.49 | VIad | I'd say if someone approaches you, it's fair to ask for budget, as internet is a big place, you might have different ideas for normal pay than the lady from korea :p |
| 13:35.16 | znf | so am I |
| 13:35.27 | znf | companies around here are recently really struggling with salaries |
| 13:35.36 | znf | they need people, but they are not willing to compromise on salary |
| 13:36.17 | znf | So, I make around ~1800-2000â¬/mo right now at my job, which is pretty good for Romania. |
| 13:36.42 | znf | I'm asking them a simple question: is your budget over 2000â¬/mo? If no, why would I change job? |
| 13:41.39 | Thunder_Child | Lots of reasons. |
| 13:43.05 | znf | no, I don't want to be part of a "dynamic and young team" |
| 13:43.17 | znf | or the possibility of "endless projects" |
| 13:43.47 | znf | I work for money, regardless of what recruiters/corporations would like us to believe |
| 13:44.13 | Thunder_Child | How about a company with unlimited time off. Or better benefits. |
| 13:44.16 | Thunder_Child | etc. |
| 13:44.18 | znf | I work for a financial comfort. Not everyone needs glorious projects that change the world. Most woulnd't care less. And 2000â¬/mo is not a lot of money |
| 13:44.31 | znf | Thunder_Child, how about this - give me more money, I'll buy the benefits myself |
| 13:44.43 | znf | also, I work from home |
| 13:45.06 | znf | I can literally masturbate "at work". |
| 13:45.48 | Thunder_Child | So can lots of people. |
| 13:46.03 | znf | I could be on the beach right now, if my skin wouldn't have issues with the actual sun burning it off in about 30 minutes regardless of the SPF cream I use >_< |
| 13:48.13 | znf | I see "benefits" as a way for the company to cut costs, which would mostly be unneeded if they'd just pay their employee better so they could buy the benefits themselves |
| 13:48.55 | znf | I'm not at a high enough level to gain benefits from a company that would otherwise be inaccesible to me |
| 13:59.06 | znf | - |
| 13:59.11 | znf | So, uhm, where has Thrall been? |
| 13:59.18 | znf | Is he in the Shaman place? |
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| 14:47.15 | foxlit | retired, for the most part. |
| 14:55.36 | karl_w_w | yes VIad, valve invited redeye to the csgo major instead |
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| 16:05.57 | VIad | ah. I'll miss him this year. he is fun. |
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| 16:52.06 | VIad | karl_w_w: the spectators shouldnt hear the voice emotes tbh |
| 16:52.17 | VIad | people spam various emotes and you hear it on twitch/ingame :p |
| 17:08.17 | karl_w_w | i think its ok |
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| 20:14.35 | zenzelezz | call me crazy, but I miss the days when BIOSes were all plain text, keyboard-only |
| 20:14.57 | Gnarfoz | you're crazy |
| 20:15.45 | schlumpf | i miss the days where I was able to understand what made the dell bios suddenly go modern style rather than classic plain text |
| 20:15.55 | schlumpf | half of my servers do "graphics", the other half does text |
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| 20:26.48 | Gnarfoz | I've never seen an option for that |
| 20:26.49 | zenzelezz | by now it's hard to explain, or even remember, why... but I miss my old Epox motherboards |
| 20:27.08 | Gnarfoz | either they're modern enough to have idrac7 / lcc or not :D |
| 20:27.15 | zenzelezz | they seemed to just vanish overnight (the company, not the motherboards) |
| 20:29.27 | schlumpf | Gnarfoz: it being idrac7 doesn't really make the difference. they are all r620s with the latest idrac. yet, half of them does bios in new style, half of them does bios on old text style |
| 20:29.38 | schlumpf | computers are shit, did you forget? |
| 20:29.51 | Gnarfoz | I meant: they're new enough to *come* with idrac7 |
| 20:30.06 | Gnarfoz | I haven't seen any that came with it out of the box have the text mode setup |
| 20:30.28 | Gnarfoz | and no, I never forget |
| 20:30.28 | schlumpf | uh |
| 20:30.29 | schlumpf | well. |
| 20:30.33 | Gnarfoz | they're always shit |
| 20:30.34 | schlumpf | computers. |
| 20:30.55 | Gnarfoz | actually I'd probably have to go look for one that has the text mode one, hmm |
| 20:31.00 | Gnarfoz | probably some r710s |
| 20:31.33 | zenzelezz | man, I even had to look up idrac... |
| 20:32.00 | zenzelezz | only 15-20 years ago, I was all up in CAS timings and whatnot, now I even struggly with the acronyms |
| 20:32.15 | Gnarfoz | 20 years ago, maybe they made a big enough difference ;p |
| 20:32.35 | zenzelezz | that was part of the joke |
| 20:32.37 | zenzelezz | but yes |
| 20:32.39 | Thunder_Child | And you struggly with words as well. |
| 20:32.47 | zenzelezz | these days it's basically "does my motherboard support this or not" |
| 20:32.58 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: two words; Captain Morgan |
| 20:33.14 | zenzelezz | not that that makes you any less correct |
| 20:34.24 | Thunder_Child | Again? Werent you drunk about this time yesterday as well? |
| 20:35.56 | zenzelezz | the day before |
| 20:36.11 | zenzelezz | it's my three-week vacation; it's the one time of year I can be an alcoholic |
| 20:37.34 | zenzelezz | if it didn't coincide reasonably closely with the holiday salary, I wouldn't have bought as much alcohol |
| 20:38.24 | schlumpf | > these days it's basically "does my motherboard support this or not" |
| 20:38.30 | schlumpf | I don't even know what motherboard I have. |
| 20:38.49 | zenzelezz | schlumpf: truth be told, me neither |
| 20:39.05 | schlumpf | My stance on computers went from "please tell me everything, I want to do everything myself" to "oh fuck off. please shut up. does it work? good. shut up" |
| 20:39.47 | zenzelezz | pretty similar for me, though I define it more as "I'm still too 'proud' to buy a pre-built one" |
| 20:40.17 | schlumpf | for home use, all-in-ones are the way to go |
| 20:40.18 | Thunder_Child | I'm not. I decided I'll pay the damn money. I always hated putting them together. |
| 20:41.14 | zenzelezz | if I actually upgraded everything at once, I just might have gone with that, but I still upgrade piecemeale |
| 20:41.42 | zenzelezz | ye olde superfluous e-s |
| 20:41.46 | schlumpf | I've spent more on software than hardware in the last five years, I just had to realize |
| 20:42.23 | Thunder_Child | Well Ram/CPU/Memory generally go as a threesome when upgrading. |
| 20:42.34 | zenzelezz | schlumpf: more money or more time? |
| 20:42.36 | Thunder_Child | So that's semi-piecemeal. |
| 20:42.45 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: that's true |
| 20:43.05 | Thunder_Child | Err, Ram/CPU/MoBo. |
| 20:43.16 | Thunder_Child | And I don't have the excuse of being drunk. |
| 20:43.18 | schlumpf | zenzelezz: mostly buying a 2012 imac, not upgrading it, and then buying ida with decompilers. |
| 20:43.39 | schlumpf | and: more both |
| 20:43.40 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: heh... well, I read it as that anyway, so used to that anyway :-p |
| 20:44.55 | zenzelezz | schlumpf: I've never personally bought a Mac, but used both a Mini (... dark times) and Macbook Pro at work for years, and I must say that bar some things, I do appreciate it over Windows for the kind of development I've been doing (Android Studio works about the same on all platforms though) |
| 20:45.35 | schlumpf | the "don't give a shit about hardware" did it for me. being unix based is a plus but I was told that windows has that with their fork as well nowadays |
| 20:46.50 | zenzelezz | hm, couldn't say. I do love my grep/find, even if every single editor these days has built-in functions that can accomplish most of it |
| 20:47.27 | schlumpf | yeah, but eclipse find-in-files, grep -r, and git grep are still miles of difference |
| 20:47.48 | schlumpf | ides in general are quite shit, sadly |
| 20:48.17 | Thunder_Child | I use windows at home, mac on the go, and linux at work. |
| 20:48.35 | Thunder_Child | Makes for some muscle memory confusion at times. |
| 20:49.32 | zenzelezz | if I'd used my own hardware at work, I'd use linux |
| 20:49.46 | zenzelezz | at home I have Windows on the primary computer, linux on the secondary |
| 20:50.06 | zenzelezz | as far as laptops go, Macbooks seem to beat everything |
| 20:50.18 | Gnarfoz | in price, certainly |
| 20:50.23 | zenzelezz | haha, true |
| 20:50.34 | Thunder_Child | Hardware wise they did, the gap is getting smaller. |
| 20:50.59 | zenzelezz | work only went for a 128 GB Pro when I started working there, has been tough sometimes. Checked how much it would take to upgrade to 256... absolutely crazy |
| 20:52.27 | Thunder_Child | Sadly my computer at work is more powerful than the one at home. |
| 20:55.34 | zenzelezz | I keep thinking I'll soon start being more considerate in how I spend my money, computer-wise |
| 20:55.58 | zenzelezz | instead I end up upgrading my videocard, or more recently, buying a Rift... because obviously I needed that |
| 20:59.40 | zenzelezz | I suppose that's a/the perk of being a perpetual bachelor |
| 21:00.20 | schlumpf | story of my financial success: not having a life. |
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| 21:03.03 | zenzelezz | indeed |
| 21:04.31 | zenzelezz | I was devastated the other day, after digging out my old Lego Technic and looking up new ones, to realize that they now prefer a studless design (and by "now" I mean "since 10 years ago") |
| 21:04.56 | zenzelezz | at least it saved me from throwing away money. God, are those things expensive |
| 21:05.08 | zenzelezz | you'd think they were all made of unobtanium |
| 21:05.56 | Thunder_Child | Well it's not "throwing away" if you get entertainment from them. |
| 21:06.19 | zenzelezz | true; many people ignore that distinction |
| 21:12.44 | zenzelezz | FWIW, Euro Truck Simulator 2 (... I know) works really well in Rift |
| 21:13.25 | zenzelezz | then again, they started supporting it four+ years ago, so you'd expect so |
| 21:16.29 | zenzelezz | Elite: Dangerous too; though it became very obvious very quickly when I rotate on more than two axes at the same time |
| 21:16.42 | zenzelezz | while inside a space station that is; in space it made little difference |
| 21:17.24 | Thunder_Child | Battlefleet Gothic has that support as well, I should really test that out. |
| 21:20.31 | zenzelezz | what sort of game is that? |
| 21:23.27 | Thunder_Child | Turn based strategy. |
| 21:23.48 | bshelden | E:D is very good in a rift... except for hyperjumps. The damn washing machine is a super fast way to get happy-go-pukey. |
| 21:23.59 | bshelden | erm, sorry, s/rift/vive |
| 21:24.20 | bshelden | Comment is about the game rather than the specific HMD anyway |
| 21:24.39 | zenzelezz | it can be a bit queezy |
| 21:25.17 | bshelden | It's a shame for me. I'm an explorer type, so I spend a LOT of time in witchspace. |
| 21:25.42 | bshelden | So I tend to travel with the monitor, and switch to the HMD when I'm in a cool looking area. |
| 21:37.46 | zenzelezz | friend is trying to convince me to play Warthunder using the Rift. Having trouble believing it is easier to spot enemies using the Rift, but who knows. Maybe some day (I don't play simulator, so by and large the targets all have big visible names anyway) |
| 21:40.07 | nevcairiel | warthunder sounds like it would make you terribly sick =p |
| 21:45.24 | zenzelezz | even considering how timidly I fly, yes |
| 21:46.13 | nevcairiel | i only play arcade, and even there i sometimes manage to almost blackout my pilote, at that point i would probably have thrown up =p |
| 21:46.20 | nevcairiel | -e |
| 21:50.03 | zenzelezz | I would imagine so |
| 21:50.36 | zenzelezz | in realistic, which is what I usually play (since I only really play together with this guy) your wings would have broken off long before that point... but you also black out far faster |
| 21:51.53 | nevcairiel | i've only done realistic tank battles, dont think ever tried flying |
| 21:53.03 | zenzelezz | realistic tank battles to me feel... well, not particularly entertaining; but that may be the teams (or my lack of skill) |
| 21:53.12 | zenzelezz | but far superior to arcade tank |
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| 22:28.26 | zenzelezz | "One or more videos have been removed from the playlist because they were deleted from Youtube". Come on, Youtube... how hard would it be to actually tell me _which ones_? |
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