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| 05:44.39 | znf | that Netherlight Crucible thing |
| 05:44.43 | znf | is it per slot or per relic? |
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| 06:08.33 | nebula | both? each slot is it's own tree, but if you reslot it with the same relic and randomizes the tree again |
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| 15:17.14 | Thunder_Child | I don't think we are dead quite yet. |
| 15:19.17 | nevcairiel | well on the way, though |
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| 16:09.07 | Andols2 | Rip? |
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| 17:51.47 | Infus | TheDanW: yep, doing a SetWidth(GetWidth() +1 ) fixes it |
| 18:09.51 | TheDanW | i entered a bug for it, but i wouldn't expect it to get fixed for 7.3, higher priority things to get to |
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| 19:13.55 | eke00372 | what bug |
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| 22:19.34 | Semlar | someone is claiming nomicakes is somehow hiding the blood of sargeras transmute from their alchemy list |
| 22:20.12 | foxlit | uninstall! |
| 22:20.38 | Semlar | i thought this was absurd, until i looked at the comments on http://www.wowhead.com/spell=213257/transmute-blood-of-sargeras#comments |
| 22:21.00 | Semlar | where the top post is about, apparently, addons hiding this recipe |
| 22:22.27 | Semlar | the only thing nomicakes does that could presumably cause this is disabling all the filters so it can get your known cooking recipes |
| 22:23.03 | Semlar | i don't have a character with alchemy to check what's going on here though |
| 22:23.31 | Semlar | also, the current system to get your list of known recipes is terrible |
| 22:24.33 | Semlar | i shouldn't have to open the tradeskill window to do that |
| 22:28.48 | Semlar | it's probably TheDanW's fault |
| 22:35.23 | Funkeh` | foxlit, PTR update came out 5 min ago and townlong yak still not updated? gosh |
| 22:35.45 | TheDanW | more like someones decision 15 years ago |
| 22:35.58 | Funkeh` | 15!? |
| 22:36.10 | TheDanW | i tried to make the api as sane as i could in 7.x ;p |
| 22:36.48 | foxlit | Funkeh`: do you just refresh the PTR status page all day? |
| 22:37.01 | nevcairiel | that reminds me, I blame Semlar for nomi not giving me my very last recipe for months now, i keep feeding him every hour of every day, and he just doesnt give me shit |
| 22:37.05 | Funkeh` | rofl |
| 22:37.24 | Semlar | i have had people tell me nomicakes is wrong about ingredients before |
| 22:38.02 | Semlar | i don't think it is, but who knows how it works behind the scenes |
| 22:38.04 | nevcairiel | i'm lacking rank3 of the big feast, which according to nomicakes has all sorts of possible ingredients |
| 22:38.18 | nevcairiel | but i also fed him any bacon i had just to make sure |
| 22:38.21 | nevcairiel | nothing :( |
| 22:38.35 | Semlar | i mean, as far as i can tell, you can use any ingredient something is made out of to get it from him |
| 22:38.56 | Semlar | and the higher ranked recipes just have really low drop chances |
| 22:40.28 | Simca_ | fwiw |
| 22:40.52 | Simca_ | i used nomicakes from day 1 of its release until last week, when i finished nomi finally |
| 22:41.12 | Simca_ | and never had any issues besides nomi being a complete asshole and refusing to take work orders about every other order |
| 22:41.25 | Simca_ | a bug which seems to annoy me more and more over time |
| 22:41.37 | nevcairiel | wrong suggested ingredients wouldnt be a bug you notice that easily =p |
| 22:41.37 | Semlar | i have a hack in nomicakes that i think ends the dialog with him if it breaks |
| 22:42.17 | Simca_ | i mean, you're right, but like, at the end i needed 5 recipes that had a specific fish in their recipe |
| 22:42.27 | Simca_ | and i gave him ONLY that type of fish until i got all 5 |
| 22:42.34 | Simca_ | and i did, eventually |
| 22:42.49 | nevcairiel | like I said i need the last feast, which are a bit special recipes anyhow |
| 22:43.05 | Simca_ | do you have any ranks of last feast? |
| 22:43.09 | Semlar | the thing i don't know, is if adding different ingredients increases the chances of getting something |
| 22:43.11 | nevcairiel | yeah, only need 3 |
| 22:43.15 | Simca_ | ah ok |
| 22:43.30 | Simca_ | one thing nomi cakes doesn't tell you is that you need every recipe at rank 1 to get rank 1 of the good feast |
| 22:43.41 | Simca_ | it'll still show it to you as an option even though it really isn't |
| 22:43.51 | nevcairiel | before that I needed like thie faronaar fizz or what its called, i think it takes eggs, i got that like in a couple days of only feeding him eggs |
| 22:43.56 | nevcairiel | but the damn feast eludes me |
| 22:44.07 | Semlar | what do you mean you need every recipe at rank 1 |
| 22:44.13 | Semlar | they removed that in a patch |
| 22:44.14 | Simca_ | it is literally required |
| 22:44.17 | Semlar | no |
| 22:44.25 | Semlar | i specifically removed it from the addon because it was removed in one of the patches |
| 22:44.30 | Simca_ | hmm |
| 22:44.50 | Semlar | they made it so the feasts didn't require knowing the recipes that went into them |
| 22:45.08 | Semlar | i think i still have the prerequisites commented out in the addon |
| 22:45.24 | Simca_ | afaik you needed every recipe, even ones not used in the feast |
| 22:45.40 | Simca_ | but i could be wrong |
| 22:46.16 | Simca_ | faronaar fizz was one of my last ones as well, nevcairiel, but that's mainly cause it is the only one from eggs, and i was doing the ones that had multiple potential recipes until they all only had 1 |
| 22:46.25 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/5J4nC20.png |
| 22:48.55 | Semlar | "Nomi can now teach tier 3 recipes such as Nightborne Delicacy Platter, even if you don't know a required precedent tier 2 recipe, such as Barracuda Mrglgagh." |
| 22:49.47 | Simca_ | that does not imply removing the feast restriction |
| 22:50.11 | Simca_ | i've had friends complain very recently (like 7.2.5 recent) that they never got it |
| 22:50.31 | Simca_ | and then i told them they needed to go find 'turf' and 'surf' from suramar and talk to the innkeeper there for the last 2 recipes |
| 22:50.35 | Simca_ | and they would get it |
| 22:50.59 | Semlar | what else could that possibly be interpreted as meaning |
| 22:51.00 | Simca_ | entirely possible it is coincidence |
| 22:51.06 | nevcairiel | at least farming surf and turf takes like a couple minutes if you know the mobs they drop from |
| 22:51.09 | Simca_ | the feast is not a tier recipe |
| 22:51.25 | nevcairiel | +only |
| 22:51.26 | Simca_ | it requires 5 tier 3 recipes, but it really isn't one |
| 22:52.14 | nevcairiel | nomi could really use BLP, months of feeding him for the very last recipe is just terrible |
| 22:52.16 | Semlar | i have literally no way of knowing what they did from that one line they had in the patch notes |
| 22:52.31 | Simca_ | yeah, unfortunate |
| 22:52.54 | nevcairiel | especially since the feast is somethinbg i would actually want to make |
| 22:53.05 | Mr_Rabies | i just gave up |
| 22:53.17 | Mr_Rabies | i figured i'd have spent less ingredients if i just kept each recipe at rank 1 |
| 22:53.21 | Simca_ | wowhead comments from feast recipe may lead you to a pattern though, Semlar - if a lot of people there are reporting that it still has prereqs |
| 22:53.25 | Mr_Rabies | i do have rank 3 feast which is nice for my guild, though |
| 22:54.18 | Semlar | i need a single person to tell me they learned a feast without knowing every one of the recipes that went into it |
| 22:54.40 | Semlar | or TheDanW to check his cookbook |
| 22:55.59 | Semlar | nomi probably has his own department |
| 22:58.02 | Semlar | well, there are no comments on this posted after patch 7.1 |
| 23:01.30 | Simca_ | well that sucks |
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| 23:03.25 | Mr_Rabies | that seemed like the trick for me, semlar |
| 23:03.35 | Mr_Rabies | it seemed like that might even apply to the 375 food |
| 23:04.06 | Mr_Rabies | gotta know at least rank 1 of all the 300 food first - but not nearly enough time bothering with that to see |
| 23:04.47 | Semlar | they said they removed the requirement, and listed one recipe and one prerequisite for it |
| 23:06.12 | Semlar | since "tier 3" and "tier 2" aren't actual designations for anything, i have to interpret that myself |
| 23:06.36 | Simca_ | tier 1 = 300 food, tier 2 = 325 food, tier 3 = 375 food |
| 23:06.39 | Simca_ | based on their example |
| 23:07.33 | Semlar | their example is not enough to assume this doesn't apply to every recipe that previously required knowing another recipe to learn, which was the whole point of adding the change |
| 23:07.42 | Simca_ | true |
| 23:08.06 | Semlar | they removed the requirement because it was confusing for people |
| 23:08.37 | Semlar | and if they didn't remove it from every recipe then it's even more confusing |
| 23:09.21 | Semlar | i could just put all the prerequisites back into nomicakes but it's going to be a little weird if someone ends up getting something they didn't think they could obtain |
| 23:09.24 | Mr_Rabies | oh is that what they meant by that - by then i already had at least rank 1 of that |
| 23:09.33 | Mr_Rabies | that patch note kinda confused me so i disregarded it :V |
| 23:09.45 | Semlar | it only ever required knowing rank 1 of something |
| 23:09.58 | Semlar | and the requirement definitely used to be there |
| 23:10.08 | Mr_Rabies | that's what i meant - by the time the change happened it didn't apply to me |
| 23:10.36 | Semlar | but before 7.1, i had them listed in nomicakes |
| 23:11.01 | Semlar | i just commented them out later |
| 23:13.12 | Semlar | i could check the ptr, i had a massive number of things queued up while i was testing nomicake features |
| 23:13.25 | Semlar | maybe i have a feast on there |
| 23:21.08 | Semlar | well, i got a feast but i also had all of the requirements for it so that's inconclusive |
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| 23:38.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Tentacled (~sinus@91.230.180.3) |
| 23:39.50 | Tentacled | Interesting. I'm running a big bunch of item link checks - like, hundreds or more - and I get some results, some trickle in later. All good, consistent with items being stored in a limited cache. |
| 23:40.21 | Tentacled | But afterwards, when I'm no longer torturing the cache, I start getting pretty erratic results. |
| 23:41.39 | Tentacled | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.52 | Tentacled | However, no GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED is seen inbetween. |
| 23:41.57 | Tentacled | Did I manage to break the cache? :> |
| 23:43.24 | Tentacled | (Well, by "no longer torturing the cache", I mean I'm only doing 20-30 item checks... just what's in the inventory.) |
| 23:56.30 | Tentacled | And now that I've reverted to not try to cache GetItemInfo results anymore, I'm getting dozens of G_I_I_R events, for the same items, on each pass through the inventory. Very much as if the internal cache was full and wouldn't purge the old entries. |
