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| 00:24.11 | foxlit | Though it's amusing to be told that you died via chat message while the rest of the world is blissfully ignorant. |
| 00:31.17 | Corrodias | heh |
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| 01:14.47 | Iriel | BTW - If anyone has ended up with a spare blizzcon ticket someone at work asked me if I had one, I could hook you up. (I realize this is unlikely, but figure it's worth asking) |
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| 04:23.33 | Fisker | Iriel I might have |
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| 07:59.42 | AcidWeb_ | somebody here play wow on 1440p with everything set to max? |
| 08:00.57 | nevcairiel | almost, i reduce water quality by one because it costs a whole lot of performance for really no improvement |
| 08:01.52 | AcidWeb_ | Well from 7.2 my fps tanked badly |
| 08:02.24 | AcidWeb_ | somethimes i have problems to get 30dps in suramar |
| 08:02.27 | AcidWeb_ | heh |
| 08:02.28 | AcidWeb_ | fps |
| 08:12.17 | AcidWeb_ | And apparently only thing that impact fps significantly are two settings - view distance and enviromental detail |
| 08:12.40 | nevcairiel | suramar is a bit special |
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| 13:08.43 | p3lim | anyone know a way to search wowhead for all items with an Use effect? |
| 13:19.41 | nebula | i thought an empty "effect text" would get you use: and equip: but i guess not |
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| 15:09.18 | karl_w_w | a use |
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| 16:19.50 | Arrowmaster | i need to make a bootable dos usb with at least 10MiB of freespace for a bios updater, im failing to find good solution |
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| 16:35.10 | foxlit | https://pastebin.com/KwWZ5mgW << thoughts on this format for widget api data? |
| 16:39.13 | karl_w_w | can't yumi do it for you Arrowmaster? |
| 16:40.17 | Arrowmaster | windows app. |
| 16:43.59 | Iriel | foxlit: clean |
| 16:44.27 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: and freedos is an installer from what i can tell now, not a bootable image |
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| 16:52.30 | Iriel | foxlit: if you happen to have derived 'direct parentage' that could be handy, but it can be figured out from the 'isa' relationships. |
| 16:53.01 | Iriel | I'm trying to remember what the format of my scanner was. |
| 16:54.23 | Iriel | Aha found it, one sec |
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| 16:55.14 | Iriel | foxlit: https://pastebin.com/80C2rHna |
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| 17:01.24 | foxlit | so roughly superclasses is just { isa[2] } |
| 17:05.01 | foxlit | Method=Origin is kind of interesting since that'd make diffs make sense without context lines; on the other hand, repeating the Region methods 20 times seems kind of annoying. |
| 17:07.18 | Iriel | Depends on what you're trying to do. |
| 17:07.39 | Iriel | I was using it to generate documentation, and if I'm looking at Texture I want to see the Region methods at the same time. |
| 17:07.53 | Iriel | I chose denormalization for convenience. |
| 17:08.06 | Iriel | Obviously one can produce a highly normalized form and derive the rest |
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| 18:49.29 | nebula | could also build the table based on the hierarchy of the widgets so inherited properties are implied by the structure :D |
| 18:50.30 | Iriel | Harder to access randomly |
| 18:51.18 | Iriel | Generally the undoing of overly clever structural representations (at least for external formats -- internally one can do whatever one wants) |
| 18:52.00 | Iriel | Admittedly for a small file you can load ALL of trivially, it's not that significant of a concern |
| 18:53.46 | nebula | yea, a bit impractical, but pretty |
| 18:58.46 | Iriel | It also breaks for multiple inheritance. |
| 18:59.41 | nebula | i couldn't think of where that would be an issue, does that happen with widgets? |
| 19:00.16 | Iriel | ScriptObject |
| 19:00.27 | Iriel | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets_hierarchy |
| 19:00.27 | nebula | and fontinstance, i guess |
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| 19:01.34 | Iriel | has the advantage of having been through this design discussion ~10 years ago when doing the widget api scanner code. |
| 19:01.58 | nebula | :p |
| 19:03.51 | foxlit | abstract types are frustratingly unreal anyway. |
| 19:08.44 | foxlit | (I mean, you could ask a Frame widget "are you a ScriptObject?" and it'd happily tell you "No") |
| 19:09.16 | Iriel | Maybe we can talk the UI team into implementing the abstractions that make our lives happy? |
| 19:10.20 | Iriel | "Well, the value is that a tiny number of people won't have to implement a couple of hardcoded hacks in documentation generators, surely that's worth your implementation and testing time?" |
| 19:12.01 | nebula | best time is now! they're currently updating things so they can generate docs, so maybe they'd understand |
| 19:32.42 | Iriel | I can hope! |
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| 20:16.43 | Arrowmaster | at this point im out of options on trying to get the bios updated on this laptop |
| 20:24.20 | Gnarfoz | why even |
| 20:25.17 | Arrowmaster | because if i dont i cant play any games because when it starts to heat up acpi will error and lock the system up |
| 20:25.27 | Gnarfoz | "acpi will error" |
| 20:25.27 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 20:26.09 | Gnarfoz | and from which decade is this thing that the uefi updater requires dos? |
| 20:26.19 | Gnarfoz | (you did say bios, so maybe... last decade) |
| 20:27.35 | Arrowmaster | its uefi but fucking lenovo doesnt have a way to update it other than running a windows exe |
| 20:27.43 | Gnarfoz | so, why not just use what the manufacturer provides? a winPE boot image can't be that hard to find |
| 20:27.56 | Arrowmaster | i managed to find a dos tool and a way to get the file from the exe |
| 20:28.15 | Arrowmaster | but i cant get freedos working because the firmware file is almost 10MB |
| 20:28.42 | Gnarfoz | doing uefi updates from actual DOS hasn't been a thing for... years, I think you're down the wrong rabbit hole |
| 20:28.46 | Arrowmaster | all the freedos images ive found are for 1.4mb or 2.88 floppy |
| 20:29.36 | Gnarfoz | grabbing a bootable windows and running the updater from there seems like the shorter way to success |
| 20:29.41 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: 10+ years ago i had a desktop that updated pre uefi bios from flash drive but lenovo decided windows exes are the way to go |
| 20:29.54 | Arrowmaster | yeah where the hell do i get a bootable windows |
| 20:30.30 | Gnarfoz | they probably decided that because it's the right choice for 99% of their customers :P |
| 20:31.08 | Arrowmaster | 99.999% of their customers will never update it |
| 20:31.39 | Arrowmaster | if it gets updated it will be done by a tech and not the customer |
| 20:34.06 | Gnarfoz | well, I guess you'd need a computer with Windows on it to make a Windows PE flash drive |
| 20:35.06 | Gnarfoz | (or you're lucky and your UEFI has an UEFI shell, but I've only seen that on servers) |
| 20:35.43 | Arrowmaster | i dont even know if this will fix the acpi table and prevent the lockups when the kernel errors out reading it |
| 20:36.08 | Arrowmaster | this uefi is locked to hell down, theres almost zero options |
| 20:36.55 | Corrodias | you can download bootable windows PE disc images, too |
| 20:37.01 | Corrodias | you don't have to build one yourself |
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| 20:45.51 | Arrowmaster | Corrodias: you have a suggestion on where? |
| 20:49.18 | Thunder_Child | http://windowsmatters.com/2015/04/17/windows-8-1-x86-u1-pe-with-updateable-usb-portable-apps-2/ I'm not vouching for this however. |
| 20:49.58 | Corrodias | your favorite torrent site would probably have one, but... that link looks good to me |
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| 20:57.07 | Arrowmaster | ok ill try that next if this last thing doesnt work |
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| 21:01.10 | Maldivia | https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO -- would probably be the place to download something vouchable :D |
| 21:05.49 | Gnarfoz | that's just regular Windows, though |
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| 21:07.51 | Gnarfoz | although, granted, it'd probably still quicker to make room for a partition to install win10 to, install, update, nuke partition :p (for which you could use that link) |
| 21:09.42 | Gnarfoz | +be |
| 21:10.15 | Arrowmaster | windows is never touching the drives on any computer of mine |
| 21:10.38 | Gnarfoz | then you get to deal with the bugs in your OS of choice |
| 21:10.40 | Arrowmaster | it will completely fuckup my booting |
| 21:11.19 | Arrowmaster | and my drive is encrypted, i cant just shrink it to make room |
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| 21:53.59 | Thunder_Child | Could swap the drive. |
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| 22:16.10 | Industrial | Is there not a single company in California that will take people from other countries :/ ? |
| 22:17.08 | Industrial | I got 10 years on CV now, and experience as a full-stack web developer with node/js-land for at least 7 years exclusively now |
| 22:17.50 | Industrial | But I can't find a job there >_> Maybe I should try recruiters |
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| 22:19.02 | schlumpf | then again, node/js. |
| 22:19.33 | nebula | tech companies love to hire h1-b workers! |
| 22:20.57 | Thunder_Child | Stop taking my jobs Industrial. |
| 22:21.32 | Thunder_Child | Well, I guess that's stop trying to take my jobs. |
| 22:23.23 | Iriel | Industrial: California is a big place, are you looking at the whole state or a specific bit? |
| 22:23.40 | nebula | bay area or bust |
| 22:24.11 | Iriel | Usually AND, not or. |
| 22:24.12 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 22:24.20 | Iriel | Little bit of bay area rent/mortgage humor |
| 22:24.20 | nebula | heh |
| 22:25.03 | Thunder_Child | I'd like to live in SF for the weather, but I kinda already own a home in LA. |
| 22:26.43 | nevcairiel | trying to get a company to sponsor you for a work visa would probably mean you really need quite exceptional skills .. and honestly, web devs grow on trees |
| 22:27.17 | Industrial | nevcairiel: Is there any other way to 'get in' ? :) |
| 22:27.53 | Industrial | Iriel: I think I would really like SF |
| 22:28.11 | nevcairiel | play the long game and get hired by the european branch of such a company, and when you have proven yourself ask if they would help you relocate |
| 22:28.24 | Iriel | Unfortunately so does everyone else... The Job market here is a bit "silly". |
| 22:28.37 | Industrial | otherwise LA, but I wouldnt mind living close-ish to the company in a smaller town. I'd be exploring in most of my free time anyway :D |
| 22:28.40 | Iriel | The challenge for sponsorship is you have to stand out from the crow |
| 22:28.42 | Iriel | +d |
| 22:29.01 | Iriel | Which means either being demonstrably super awesome in a field with a LOT of competition. |
| 22:29.10 | Iriel | Or having some niche skill a company needs but can't find anywhere else. |
| 22:29.28 | Industrial | Hmm. Okay :-) |
| 22:30.30 | Iriel | There are some very particular laws about compensation and H1 visas so you cann't simply be "cheap", you have to be really productive/valuable. |
| 22:30.44 | Industrial | I guess we can all do React + Redux + Webpack + HMR + Server Side Rendering + GraphQL + Event Sourced / CQRS Microservices + Docker / Kubernetes / Lambda / GCF these days xD |
| 22:31.07 | nevcairiel | well you also need to find someone that wants this =p |
| 22:31.24 | Gnarfoz | most of that sounds like utter web hipster rubbish |
| 22:31.25 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 22:31.30 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 22:31.38 | nebula | what, you don't do angular, ember, and exlixir? pfft |
| 22:31.48 | nevcairiel | angular is so last month, nebula |
| 22:31.51 | Industrial | Give me a weekend :) |
| 22:32.06 | Iriel | Have you looked in the sacramento area too? |
| 22:32.30 | Iriel | It's a little more sane than the bay area |
| 22:32.47 | Iriel | but close enough to take advantage of the proximity |
| 22:32.48 | Industrial | Iriel: I've mostly looked at sites that collect jobs and then filter down to the entire state |
| 22:33.00 | Industrial | like indeed.com |
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| 22:53.03 | nebula | foxlit: nice |
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| 23:59.31 | fewyn | i'm debating what class to level next |
| 23:59.54 | fewyn | i already have a rogue, hunter, warlock, death knight, and paladin |