| 00:10.27 | Mr_Rabies | https://i.imgur.com/ct8d7hu.jpg |
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| 01:14.15 | Neffi | Stanzilla: that thing is ugly and there's no way that hinge mechanism is going to last |
| 01:14.35 | Stanzilla | ok :D |
| 01:15.07 | Neffi | I'm not interested in buying into companies that need to make desperate knee jerk reactions to appear "bold" because they failed to make a decent product for the past decade |
| 01:16.53 | Neffi | looks like XPS 13 is limited to 8gb preconfigured can't figure out if that is soldered. but what's worse is, it uses fucking Killer WiFi and you need to go touch to get more than 1080p |
| 01:23.08 | Neffi | Semlar, can I trust lenovo? |
| 01:23.49 | Semlar | trust noone neffi |
| 01:24.00 | Neffi | oh good call |
| 01:24.02 | Neffi | ty |
| 01:24.18 | Semlar | except me |
| 01:24.24 | Semlar | obviously |
| 01:25.38 | Neffi | <3 |
| 01:25.52 | Neffi | picking out expensive things is hard |
| 01:29.13 | Stanzilla | macbook |
| 01:31.06 | Neffi | Lenovo seems to be the only one who still offer anti glare non touch displays |
| 01:31.23 | Thunder_Child | Why would you want a touch display? |
| 01:31.30 | Neffi | Difficult to trust them after multiple runs of preinstallrd malware but everything else looks like shit |
| 01:31.38 | Neffi | non-touch, Thunder_Child |
| 01:31.46 | Semlar | non-touches neffi |
| 01:31.53 | Neffi | I don't want touch. I don't want the shitty glossy covering that touch has. |
| 01:31.58 | Thunder_Child | Ah, missed that. |
| 01:32.01 | Neffi | Semlar: rude. |
| 01:32.16 | Semlar | embrace the touch screen neffi |
| 01:32.29 | Neffi | T470s offers QHD non touch IPS with anti glare coating. Maybe the only laptop that does. |
| 01:32.42 | Neffi | But I'm not keen on lenovo after past experiences |
| 01:34.42 | Neffi | anything else worth checking out? I won't touch Acer after I've literally seen their units crack in half from the force of opening the lid over several months. Never been impressed with anything Asus thats not a motherboard or GPU |
| 01:36.35 | kd3 | bleh. the annoying part about moving to a new phone is signing in to all my accounts again |
| 01:39.10 | Thunder_Child | Neffi: Omen? |
| 01:42.34 | znf | kd3, indeed |
| 01:42.53 | znf | chrome smartlock helps, but not all apps use it :( |
| 01:43.09 | znf | off the top of my head, I only know of irccloud and netflix that do it |
| 01:43.37 | Neffi | Thunder_Child: Omen? |
| 01:43.46 | Thunder_Child | Neffi: HP Omen |
| 01:44.07 | znf | ah, gaming laptop |
| 01:44.15 | znf | nopes out of the page |
| 01:44.20 | Thunder_Child | Oh, QHD, I was looking at UHD. |
| 01:44.25 | Neffi | yeah |
| 01:44.27 | Neffi | 2560 |
| 01:44.45 | Neffi | 1080p is common now. I wouldn't go lower. I'd prefer 2560 though |
| 01:44.47 | znf | call it 1440p, for everyone's stake |
| 01:44.48 | nebula | 1440* |
| 01:44.55 | znf | s/stake/sake/ |
| 01:45.05 | znf | sorry, I'm romanian, vampires and stuff |
| 01:45.11 | nebula | that's pretty unusual in a laptop |
| 01:45.12 | Neffi | calling it by width covers the 16:10 variations too |
| 01:45.14 | Thunder_Child | Well, there is also 2560x1600 as well. |
| 01:45.23 | Neffi | but calling it by height might confuse with uktrawides |
| 01:45.29 | Neffi | the width is the more pertinent value |
| 01:45.30 | znf | Thunder_Child, we don't talk but those silly things |
| 01:45.39 | Neffi | plus makes it more roughly comparable to "4k" |
| 01:45.47 | Neffi | so, I'd prefer 2560 over 1920 |
| 01:45.53 | nebula | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_display_resolution#QHD_.2F_WQHD_.282560.C3.971440.29 |
| 01:45.55 | Thunder_Child | znf: That's only ones we have a work. |
| 01:45.59 | nebula | 1600 is a lie |
| 01:46.48 | znf | too many acronyms |
| 01:47.18 | nebula | i just know UHD is 4k thanks to marketing |
| 01:48.10 | Neffi | UHD might be too much. I'd just tune the DPI to render the same as QHD at 96 |
| 01:48.23 | Neffi | but I'd lose battery life and contend with badly written apps |
| 01:48.28 | Neffi | and money |
| 01:48.29 | nebula | was gonna recommend http://www.xoticpc.com/ for solid laptops, but they're all pretty much 1080 |
| 01:48.39 | Thunder_Child | Neffi: newegg has a fairly good filtering system |
| 01:49.14 | Neffi | QHD is the perfect resolution. Half the screen for a browser gives you 1280 width, which nearly all websites render very well at, and then the other half is enough for 4 90+ column terminals at a comfortable reading size |
| 01:49.17 | nebula | http://www.xoticpc.com/custom-gaming-laptops-notebooks-gaming-laptops-ct-118-96-98.html#!/p=clear&screentyperes=167 two 1440 |
| 01:49.37 | znf | wtf is aoros? |
| 01:49.47 | nebula | they're like sager, custom stuff |
| 01:49.56 | znf | I'd pass |
| 01:50.00 | Neffi | Thunder_Child: yeah I checked, but few SKUs nowadays so I don't get an idea of what they fully support |
| 01:50.27 | Neffi | most laptops can be customized much further at manufacturer page, and browsing them all on a phone is tough. so I came here for recommendations |
| 01:50.32 | nebula | apparently they were bought by gigabyte |
| 01:51.37 | Thunder_Child | Don't do research on a phone? |
| 01:51.48 | nebula | why do you think he needs a new laptop? |
| 01:51.49 | nebula | jeez |
| 01:52.48 | Thunder_Child | rolls his eyes at nebula. |
| 01:53.13 | Neffi | he's right. my motherboard just died |
| 01:53.29 | Thunder_Child | Work computer, Libary. |
| 01:53.33 | Neffi | considering just selling the PC after I replace and going laptop only for a while. for now I have nothing but phone |
| 01:53.35 | Thunder_Child | library* |
| 01:54.04 | Neffi | been too busy at work to browse stuff. thought I could get an idea tonight then investigate more tomorrow during lunch |
| 01:56.42 | Thunder_Child | There really isn't much. Alienware has one. |
| 01:56.51 | Thunder_Child | Expensive though. |
| 01:57.07 | Thunder_Child | The X1 Carbon, but you don't want Lenovo. |
| 01:57.24 | Thunder_Child | 2 Asus ones, which you also dont want. |
| 01:57.51 | Semlar | i don't know if this is just a bug on the ptr, but when i reload the ui and go to place a work order with nomi for the first time, it places 2 work orders |
| 02:05.10 | Neffi | I think I'll do Lenovo |
| 02:05.23 | Neffi | the x1 is only 1080 but the T470 looks good |
| 02:05.34 | nebula | i had a x1 for work, pretty solid |
| 02:09.08 | Stanzilla | ThinkPad T570 |
| 02:09.34 | Stanzilla | the android police guy recently got one, can read his ramblings here https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/cPr6ZB |
| 02:09.52 | Neffi | might be a bit too big |
| 02:11.19 | Neffi | I'll consider the 570 if I end up gaining much. QHD at 14" might be a little too fine |
| 02:12.01 | Thunder_Child | Neffi: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-UltraBook-2560x1440-i7-6600U/dp/B01DHTXME6 older one perhaps? |
| 02:12.14 | nebula | what's opal2.0? |
| 02:12.20 | Thunder_Child | Or someone is wrong. |
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| 02:14.56 | nebula | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.19 | nebula | so maybe coming soon? |
| 02:21.51 | Neffi | if I'm gonna buy anything this much, I'm gonna expect it to last a few years. don't want to go a couple gens back from here |
| 02:25.19 | Thunder_Child | 6 should only be one. |
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| 03:05.56 | nebula | if that, kaby lake didn't really add shit |
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| 03:36.44 | Thunder_Child | Power efficiency I think, which does make some difference in a laptop. |
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| 12:23.04 | VIad1 | the heal component of spirit bomb |
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| 15:11.59 | Mr_Rabies | 404 on the forums, lol |
| 15:35.31 | Resike | clearly the groupfinder addons causing it |
| 15:39.51 | fewyn | clearly |
| 15:43.18 | karl_w_w | c |
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| 16:38.11 | VIad1 | clearly |
| 16:38.27 | VIad1 | was the auto-delist an attempt to fix load issues with group finding? |
| 16:38.30 | VIad1 | because of the addon :p |
| 16:38.48 | VIad1 | I guess no more waitlists ^^ |
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| 17:23.31 | Andols2 | If anyone here is visiting Dreamhack, come to mainstage and say hi :) |
| 17:25.03 | Thunder_Child | pfft, why go when you can watch it in solitude. |
| 17:57.34 | ycarene_ | Anyone have any issues with wow freezing right after getting into the char select screen? |
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| 18:50.24 | ZeptoGnome | Anyone run into an issue with an addon corrupting the local item cache recently? |
| 18:51.04 | ZeptoGnome | I saw reported issue of GetItemInfo blowing stuff up last summer, but can't find any followup |
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| 19:05.07 | ZeptoGnome | Getiteminfo returns wrong data / nils etc getinteminfoinstant is fine |
| 19:06.28 | ZeptoGnome | oftem raw database contents appear - XFTH markers |
| 19:07.12 | ZeptoGnome | symptoms get progressively worse until a crash occurs and/or DBcache.bin is deleted |
| 19:07.23 | ZeptoGnome | http://imgur.com/0cqTA2P |
| 19:08.34 | ZeptoGnome | wrote a macro to pull GetItemInfo and GetItemInfoInstant for 3 items screen shot is a sample of running macro twice |
| 19:14.01 | ZeptoGnome | this one was a fun one - http://imgur.com/K5vBv8f |
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| 19:15.53 | ZeptoGnome | and this one - http://imgur.com/CEpbHBN |
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| 19:51.38 | jnwhiteh | Andols: damn, I wasn't able to come this year |
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| 20:08.12 | Andols | :( Just say hey next event, I will be here :) |
| 20:09.08 | Andols | Doing my 14 event as crew now :) |
| 20:09.55 | Andols | Will probably do a few more |
| 20:11.11 | nevcairiel | i would probably have more fun being crew on such an event then going as a visitor .. i'm weird like that. we used to host lan parties around here in germany, but with everyone having fast internet and games becoming generally terrible for LAN play, the scene just shrunk too much (and a bunch of us grew out of it, between work and family, and whatnot) |
| 20:12.59 | jnwhiteh | Yeah I would also enjoy crewing |
| 20:13.06 | jnwhiteh | Andols: my friend is working there, actually |
| 20:13.10 | jnwhiteh | Rebecka |
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| 20:24.34 | Andols2 | Don't think that is someone I know :/ |
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| 20:39.30 | Iriel | Gnarfoz: Re: the conversation about license plates a couple of weeks ago, California IS going to be issuing temporary paper plates at some point in the next few years (ETA 2019, I think) - in part to cut down on toll fraud. |
| 20:39.47 | Gnarfoz | good for you! :-) |
| 20:40.02 | Gnarfoz | in other news, my ice cubes are empty, 3 glasses of wine in |
| 20:40.02 | Iriel | I realize that is somewhat random but I read about it last week 8-) |
| 20:43.31 | Gnarfoz | at least you don't have to get temporary real plates |
| 20:44.04 | Thunder_Child | Uh, not possible? |
| 20:44.12 | Iriel | You mean a short-lived paper version of the plates i'll eventually get robust versions of? |
| 20:44.20 | Gnarfoz | no, a short-lived real version |
| 20:44.26 | Gnarfoz | like I have to :C |
| 20:44.41 | Iriel | That seems odd. |
| 20:44.44 | Gnarfoz | yeah :D |
| 20:44.47 | Gnarfoz | they're valid for 5 days |
| 20:44.50 | Gnarfoz | but are real plates |
| 20:45.12 | Thunder_Child | But paper ones are not fake. |
| 20:45.31 | Gnarfoz | nobody claimed they were |
| 20:46.41 | Thunder_Child | If you are calling something "real plates" then you are alluding to something being fake plates. |
| 20:46.42 | Gnarfoz | (he was saying that CA doesn't have paper plates right now) |
| 20:46.54 | Gnarfoz | Thunder_Child: real = metal, "fake" = paper |
| 20:47.27 | Iriel | So you have to get metal plates with a 5 day lifespan? |
| 20:47.30 | Thunder_Child | So you get temporary metal plates? |
| 20:47.48 | Gnarfoz | yep http://i.imgur.com/o0nhQak.jpg |
| 20:47.50 | Iriel | That sounds like some metal producers got a law written. |
| 20:47.54 | Gnarfoz | probably |
| 20:48.12 | Gnarfoz | they're regular plates with an expiration date, terrible ^^ |
| 20:48.24 | Iriel | Obligatory "those plates are bad" joke. |
| 20:48.44 | Gnarfoz | they are, but also, I don't get it |
| 20:48.48 | Gnarfoz | (what's the reference?) |
| 20:49.01 | Thunder_Child | The license starts with BAD |
| 20:49.03 | Iriel | Just that they have the word 'BAD' on them. |
| 20:49.25 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 20:49.26 | Gnarfoz | right :D |
| 20:49.32 | Gnarfoz | gimme a sec |
| 20:49.34 | Iriel | (Bad meaning invalid, incorrect, etc) |
| 20:50.53 | Gnarfoz | https://goo.gl/photos/3BBfgxaYUrceDYuQ9 |
| 20:51.02 | Gnarfoz | regular plates on current/new car :-) |
| 20:51.57 | Iriel | Still bad 8-) |
| 20:52.26 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 20:52.29 | Gnarfoz | but how it's http compatible |
| 20:52.56 | Iriel | Indeed, are those custom or are you just lucky? |
| 20:53.34 | Gnarfoz | custom, we can reserve them |
| 20:53.51 | Gnarfoz | (but only within the regular limitations for licence plates, which makes it a bit tricky) |
| 20:53.53 | Iriel | Cool - I keep wanting to get custom plates but can never be imaginative enough to come up with some |
| 20:54.52 | Thunder_Child | I'm tempted to get one that says 'pedanti' |
| 20:55.11 | Iriel | Then attach a post-it note with a 'c' afterwards? |
| 20:55.31 | Gnarfoz | https://docs.google.com/document/d/120jtsfcI0WW2vRjf9Mn4Oclm_j4Iq3ZXJbo_Q1hA7Gs/edit?usp=sharing |
| 20:55.32 | Thunder_Child | Nope. That's part of the joke, I'm not willing to alter the spelling to make it fit. |
| 20:55.38 | Gnarfoz | took a while to settle on one! :D |
| 20:56.26 | berndloerwald | so you settled on bad gone wild? |
| 20:56.32 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 20:56.33 | Iriel | I think you chose well |
| 20:56.46 | Gnarfoz | also https://httpstatusdogs.com/502-bad-gateway |
| 20:57.07 | berndloerwald | #sysadminJokes |
| 20:57.09 | Gnarfoz | this one was one of the few where the entire plate is part of the joke |
| 20:57.20 | Gnarfoz | and not just the part after the town prefix |
| 20:57.59 | Gnarfoz | berndloerwald: someone schlumpfed your name |
| 20:58.07 | berndloerwald | I figured. |
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| 20:58.20 | berndloerwald | But well, I'm just sharing the same amount of stuff about my real life as you do. |
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| 21:00.21 | Gnarfoz | :-) |
| 21:01.54 | Gnarfoz | now I'm out of wine AND out of ice cubes |
| 21:01.58 | Gnarfoz | terrible :-( |
| 21:02.23 | Iriel | That's tragic |
| 21:03.04 | Iriel | I'm wondering how long I can not have a front plate for without running into trouble in CA |
| 21:03.16 | Gnarfoz | luckily, the drunkenness will keep going on for a bit |
| 21:03.27 | Thunder_Child | Why wait Iriel? |
| 21:03.42 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: becasue I dont want to drill a hole in my car |
| 21:03.55 | Iriel | (there are other solutions but none are super convenient) |
| 21:04.38 | Iriel | I suppose the trick is to wait until i do get a ticket and THEN deal with it. |
| 21:04.54 | Iriel | I'm not a good "deliberate rule breaker" - mild speeding notwithstanding |
| 21:05.53 | Thunder_Child | You might as well drill the hole, it's not like the bumper is going to do anything. |
| 21:06.24 | Thunder_Child | An undercarrige mount is indeed a pita. |
| 21:06.28 | Thunder_Child | Or epoxy. |
| 21:06.42 | Iriel | It would feel like desecration, I'm willing to deal with soemthing that mounts on the grillwork below it if I have to. |
| 21:06.55 | Iriel | Epoxy would be as bad as a hole. |
| 21:07.52 | Thunder_Child | Depending on your car, powerful magnets. |
| 21:09.07 | Gnarfoz | MAGNETS |
| 21:09.30 | Gnarfoz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFAOXdXZ5TM |
| 21:09.36 | Iriel | http://imgur.com/a/FwMrn |
| 21:09.36 | Gnarfoz | wrong video, actually |
| 21:09.44 | Gnarfoz | sweet |
| 21:10.18 | Iriel | Now you can hopefully see my reluctance to drill or epoxy something to the front |
| 21:10.59 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/posts/236439/ |
| 21:11.17 | Thunder_Child | Not sure if that will work on yours. |
| 21:11.41 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: there's something like that i have bookmarked, clips to that honeycomb grillwork |
| 21:11.50 | Iriel | (well, more like BOLTS to it0 |
| 21:12.15 | schlumpf | how are front licence plates not standard in 2017? |
| 21:12.25 | Iriel | I think 31/50 states require them |
| 21:12.34 | Iriel | California included |
| 21:12.51 | Iriel | But Tesla don't by default attach the front holder, they give it to you and let you decide what to do with it. |
| 21:13.16 | Thunder_Child | https://torkliftcentral.com/the-law/ |
| 21:13.20 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: that's the one |
| 21:13.21 | Thunder_Child | There you go. |
| 21:13.36 | Iriel | Yeah, I might cave and order one before I get told to |
| 21:13.57 | Thunder_Child | The other one is https://skene-design.myshopify.com/index.shtml but it does require out of the way bolts. |
| 21:14.45 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: that may work as a fallback, but it still requires holes. |
| 21:14.47 | schlumpf | oh, right, it is some us bullshit again, instead of doing shit as all the rest of the world does |
| 21:14.58 | Iriel | schlumpf: Exactly 8-) |
| 21:15.10 | schlumpf | have you tried https://www.etsy.com/market/front_license_plate ? |
| 21:15.18 | Iriel | schlumpf: Since Im from the UK I get to mock a lot of US things (while having to deal with them) |
| 21:16.09 | schlumpf | Including the classic "n states do", completely disregarding the entire world with the statement :) |
| 21:16.44 | Iriel | Car stuff being very country-specific I stuck with the country i'm in |
| 21:17.06 | Iriel | Plus this car was made in the US (30 miles down the road from me, in fact) |
| 21:18.44 | Iriel | Really i'm surprised everything isn't RFID transponder based with a single visible plate as fallback |
| 21:18.53 | Iriel | That's already how I pay bridge tolls |
| 21:19.48 | schlumpf | making vital information electronic is a step backwards in evolution. |
| 21:20.55 | Iriel | If you insert the word 'only' next to electronic I'd agree with you |
| 21:21.38 | schlumpf | a single plate does not make sense at all: you want to see who drove over you from all sides. two plates might even be too few for that cause |
| 21:22.20 | Iriel | That might be somewhat of an edge case for the license plate. |
| 21:22.52 | schlumpf | what other cases are there for license plate other than crime attribution? |
| 21:22.54 | Iriel | And if they're driving away the rear plate should be fine. |
| 21:23.02 | Iriel | Unless they do so in reverse |
| 21:29.38 | Iriel | schlumpf: Passive Identity (is that care allowed in this parking lot, which car left its lights on, etc), Registration validation, Toll collection. But I suspect you weren't 100% serious. |
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| 23:35.10 | Gnarfoz | the entire "is this road legal" thing could as well be uncoupled from the licence plate |
| 23:35.31 | Gnarfoz | (but the US doesn't seem to have that anyway, at least not as strictly as we do, hehe) |
| 23:35.42 | Iriel | All they mostly care about is emissions (at least in CA) |
| 23:35.54 | nevcairiel | half of american cars would not drive anymore if they suddenly had TÃV =p |
| 23:36.35 | Gnarfoz | oddly enough, CA emission regulations are stricter than ours |
| 23:36.39 | Gnarfoz | that's it, though |
| 23:36.40 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:41.47 | Iriel | California was rather unhappy with the cheating Germans. |
| 23:42.17 | nevcairiel | i'm sure all car companies do that to some degree |
| 23:42.17 | Iriel | (Which in part is why I have a Tesla, since Audi generously bought back my Diesel A3) |
| 23:42.38 | Iriel | nevcairiel: Indeed, I suspect most were more subtle about it |
| 23:44.33 | nevcairiel | its a bit stupid that noone ever independently confirmed these tests on stock cars in stock modes |
| 23:45.35 | Iriel | I'm surprised the ONLY testing is the rigid standardized one, without a set of random almost 'fuzzing' tests to ensure that the standard results are suspiciously anomalous. |
| 23:45.47 | Iriel | I suspect the automotive lobby hard at work. |
| 23:46.10 | Iriel | "That'd be too expensive, just give us a single test and we'll be really thorough about that one" |
| 23:47.59 | Iriel | The funny thing was I had to have my Diesel car emissions tested EVERY YEAR |
| 23:48.22 | Iriel | (New petrol cars don't get tested for their first 5 years and are only tested every couple of years after that) |
| 23:51.43 | kd3 | eh, I'd have an EV if my apartment's electrical could handle it |
| 23:51.55 | kd3 | built-in-the-60s buildings barely have enough juice as is |
| 23:52.52 | Iriel | kd3 - My house was built in 1954, I had to get a service upgrade here. |
| 23:53.23 | Iriel | (Plus the A/C unit has a 60A rating) |
| 23:53.59 | kd3 | lucky you. it's 84F in my apartment and I"ve got all the blinds/windows closed |
| 23:54.10 | Iriel | Unpleasant. |
