| 00:00.14 | foxlit | I don't know why you were expecting anything else. |
| 00:00.18 | Semlar | :( |
| 00:01.47 | Semlar | i also have a comment on AIO that doesn't have a question in it |
| 00:02.04 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:02.18 | Semlar | i don't know what they want |
| 00:03.36 | nevcairiel | clearly he wants it to be smaller |
| 00:03.56 | Semlar | :shrug: |
| 00:04.52 | Mr_Rabies | fox http://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/fox-faces-roeselien-raimond-red-fox.jpg |
| 00:04.55 | Mr_Rabies | oops |
| 00:04.58 | Mr_Rabies | i was scrolled up |
| 00:05.06 | Semlar | yep that's a fox |
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| 21:22.00 | Semlar | foxlit: who are you to say uiparent can't have hyperlinks |
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| 21:40.09 | _Mzungu_ | Hello all, don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I had a quick question about a idea I had for an addon. Basically, for this addon to be viable, I'd need to detect resource nodes (Ore/Herbs). Is that possible with an addon? Or, do you have to interact with a node before an event gets fired? I'm very new to all this and my Google-fu has failed me. |
| 21:41.59 | Semlar | not possible |
| 21:43.12 | _Mzungu_ | so, there isn't a way to hook into what the minimap displays? I've seen an addon that adds lines from node to node on the minimap. Made it seem like there might be a way to detect those nodes |
| 21:43.29 | AcidWeb | Somebody maybe dumped all methods of UnitPositionFrame? |
| 21:43.47 | Semlar | addons like that aren't detecting the nodes, they're drawing lines between hard-coded locations in the addon |
| 21:43.54 | Seerah | ^^ |
| 21:44.05 | Stanzilla | Semlar: (Hotfix in testing) Fixed a bug preventing Mythic Keystone information from displaying properly when linked in chat. |
| 21:44.08 | Seerah | The addon already knows where nodes spawn - it doesn't know if they're actually there or not |
| 21:44.26 | Semlar | Stanzilla: is that live? |
| 21:44.27 | Seerah | _Mzungu_: what are you attempting to accomplish? |
| 21:44.32 | Stanzilla | Semlar: ???? |
| 21:44.37 | Stanzilla | what do you think in testing means |
| 21:44.52 | Thunder_Child | Depends where you work.... |
| 21:45.01 | Semlar | well it either means it's on the PTR or it's live |
| 21:45.02 | Seerah | lol |
| 21:45.03 | _Mzungu_ | Like I said, I'm very new to all this. I was trying to think of an easy addon to make as practice. I thought about logging node locations |
| 21:45.16 | _Mzungu_ | You pass by a node and it logs it's location |
| 21:45.24 | _Mzungu_ | without having to directly interact with that node |
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| 21:45.30 | _Mzungu_ | That was the general idea :) |
| 21:45.37 | Alram | hotfix in testing is generally QA |
| 21:45.38 | _Mzungu_ | I may have dreamed too big, haha |
| 21:45.39 | Alram | i think |
| 21:45.43 | Alram | not PTR or Live |
| 21:45.53 | Stanzilla | correct |
| 21:45.54 | Semlar | this is not an easy addon to make as a first addon |
| 21:46.18 | _Mzungu_ | @Semlar so it would seem |
| 21:46.39 | Semlar | it is possible to save the location of a node after you interact with it |
| 21:46.46 | Seerah | There is no event for when a node appears on the minimap. You could catch when your mouse passes over it in the world, but that would be unreliable (you'd miss some) and wouldn't have an exact idea of where they are. Addons that keep track of node locations do so each time the node is actually farmed. Users can then submit their data to the addon author. |
| 21:47.04 | Semlar | but working with map coordinates might be tricky for someone who's new to this |
| 21:47.31 | _Mzungu_ | @Seerah I see. that makes sense. |
| 21:47.33 | Seerah | He didn't say he wanted to display them on the world map ;) But, yes. |
| 21:48.04 | Semlar | he said he wanted to log node locations |
| 21:48.30 | Semlar | that requires working with coordinates at some level |
| 21:48.35 | Seerah | Right, that's just getting the player's coordinates when interacting with the node |
| 21:49.00 | Seerah | player coordinates are hello world level |
| 21:49.09 | _Mzungu_ | Semlar: I was thinking of logging to a table or actual text log. I'm a developer in my day job, just unfamiliar with the API and Lua syntax currently :) |
| 21:49.46 | _Mzungu_ | I think this answers my question, though. Will need to interact to log it the way I envisioned. |
| 21:51.01 | Semlar | i think map coordinates in this context are a little more complicated than just recording GetPlayerMapPosition seerah |
| 21:52.42 | Seerah | If he wants to keep track of where a node is in a table, no. |
| 21:52.42 | Seerah | nodes = { zone = { [1] = { x = 24.566, y = 57.934}}} |
| 21:53.54 | Seerah | If, as a learning exercise, all he wants to do is practice seeing a node, recording its location, and storing the data in a table on a per-zone basis. That's totally doable. |
| 21:53.58 | Semlar | you can't get the current player's coordinates without calling SetMapToCurrentZone |
| 21:54.18 | Semlar | and to do that without interfering with anything else isn't that simple |
| 21:54.58 | nevcairiel | well you kind of can if you track a bunch of things |
| 21:55.05 | nevcairiel | and use UnitPosition |
| 21:55.19 | nevcairiel | just need to remember in which zone you actually are |
| 21:55.26 | Semlar | right, but for tracking nodes you most likely want to know the current map |
| 21:55.32 | Semlar | not just the global coordinates |
| 21:57.24 | Seerah | Again, learning opportunity. Player coordinate addons have been the subject of "hello world" tutorials for over a decade. |
| 21:58.19 | nevcairiel | I would just prefer to not start teaching people to use SetMapToCurrentZone, even as a learning thing =p |
| 21:59.10 | Semlar | he could probably use HereBeDragons |
| 22:00.45 | Seerah | As an educator... 1. first you learn how to do something (just get the coordinates), 2. then you learn how to do it better and more reliably, 3. then you learn how to make sure that it plays nice with everything else if it's running alongside other addons |
| 22:01.18 | nevcairiel | the problem is that many people stop after step 1, and then you have the mess |
| 22:01.20 | Seerah | when learning, it's not always best to add a layer of library usage/API on top of things |
| 22:01.23 | nevcairiel | so better start right instead of quick |
| 22:02.56 | Seerah | What I listed is "right", not "quick". But, yes - people get excited or arrogant and only half-ass their learning |
| 22:03.24 | Seerah | (edit: "right" from an education standpoint) |
| 22:04.00 | nevcairiel | you can plan your education if you know they'll come back and follow all the steps, say in a school, but on the interwebs people get lazy when it "works" =p |
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| 22:29.22 | _Mzungu_ | I like picking ambitious projects. Break a lot, fail a lot, learn a lot :D |
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