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| 12:53.57 | VIad | Cairenn and Torhal: I made a simple GUI tool that helps you mute certain annoying NPCs, but since it's not an addon, is it okay if I post it? |
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| 13:35.23 | VIad | could make an empty shell of a project on wowui/curse and link to github, write some info text like leatrix uses on that tool so people dont get confused its an actuall addon and such - https://github.com/Vladinator89/wow-tool-champion-silencer |
| 13:46.06 | VIad | I agree it would be nice if we could talk to our followers and ask them to be quiet :P |
| 13:47.15 | VIad | but when there is no built in method for this and replacing their VO with empty files does work, and I know there are many that want this. I mean I could make modular zip files so people can download the zip they want and extract to their game folder - others have done that on aurora and other projects on these addon sites, that arent addons, but empty files arent dangerous either so its apparently okay :) |
| 13:51.32 | nebula | tkinter, ew |
| 13:52.24 | nevcairiel | who ever thought it was a good idea to abstract on top of tcl/tk must've been mad |
| 13:53.40 | Kalroth | we should abstract tcl/tk using ruby on rails with a node.js backup using asm.js for optimized user input queries |
| 13:53.46 | Kalroth | backend* |
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| 15:45.02 | ls- | TheDanW: I have a question about MaskTextures, this code https://hastebin.com/exotabuxun.xml in particular, is it even possible to implement the same thing in pure Lua? There's CreateMaskedTexture method to create it, so I created on and dumped its metatable, and there's nothing special in there, no methods like SetChild/SetTarget/etc... Is it yet another XML-exclusive thingy? :p |
| 15:46.11 | ls- | created one* |
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| 15:47.02 | nevcairiel | what makes you think such functions should exist |
| 15:47.37 | ls- | those names were examples :p |
| 15:48.13 | ls- | animations use kinda similarly named methods to do similar things |
| 15:48.17 | Shockah | i'd say ask Infus nevcairiel |
| 15:48.30 | Shockah | i think he changed circular WeakAuras to use masktextures |
| 15:48.36 | Shockah | he might know a bit |
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| 16:02.56 | Funkeh` | TheDanW, I located Blizz code calling a search without a hardware event, blaming addons for taint https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/live/LFGList.lua#117 |
| 16:03.05 | Funkeh` | LFGListFrame_CheckPendingQuestIDSearch(self) calls LFGListFrame_BeginFindQuestGroup(self, questID) |
| 16:03.12 | Funkeh` | LFGListFrame_BeginFindQuestGroup(self, questID) calls LFGListCategorySelection_StartFindGroup(panel, questName, questID) |
| 16:03.21 | Funkeh` | FGListCategorySelection_StartFindGroup(self, searchText, questID) calls LFGListSearchPanel_DoSearch(searchPanel) |
| 16:03.33 | Funkeh` | and that calls .Search |
| 16:03.46 | Semlar | there doesn't appear to be any difference between a MaskTexture's metatable and a regular Texture |
| 16:04.00 | Funkeh` | so addons that implement LFG filtering will occasionally be blamed for being in the path |
| 16:04.36 | Funkeh` | the end result is the "searching" panel stays spinning |
| 16:06.14 | foxlit | Funkeh`: reported it earlier, people are looking at it. |
| 16:06.38 | Funkeh` | damnit foxlit, time wasted :( |
| 16:07.00 | Funkeh` | earlier today or? |
| 16:08.08 | ls- | Semlar: yeah, I hoped to see something different T_T |
| 16:08.27 | foxlit | Funkeh`: ah, no, different issue. |
| 16:08.38 | Funkeh` | what did you report? |
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| 16:09.38 | nebula | Shockah: i don't think they did anything with masks, just updated the circular progress mess Semlar created |
| 16:10.11 | Semlar | it looks like they created a much more advanced masking system but i don't see any way to use it without xml |
| 16:11.07 | Semlar | oh you mean WA |
| 16:11.58 | Shockah | actually seems like he didn't use the new masking |
| 16:12.02 | Shockah | https://github.com/WeakAuras/WeakAuras2/commit/1df3ef61b4e8cc15c2210b7397ce182d554f56ac |
| 16:12.16 | Shockah | but i've read somewhere about him experimenting with it |
| 16:12.21 | Shockah | probably his Patreon |
| 16:12.57 | Shockah | "I also experimented with MaskTextures. As the name already indicates those are Masks that can be applied to Textures. I do have a fully functional patch which adds Mask support to Icons. So e.g. you could have circular icons!" |
| 16:13.00 | Shockah | "But, unfortunately while testing, I encountered several crashes in World of Warcraft. Apparently those MaskTextures aren't yet stable enough. I've forwarded that information to Blizzard. Until they release a fix, we sadly can't make use of this feature." |
| 16:13.47 | ls- | hehe... |
| 16:14.06 | ls- | oh well.. f it then :p |
| 16:14.17 | ls- | Wish it was possible to apply masks to Frames, lol :D |
| 16:14.40 | Shockah | Sword Art Online healthbars go go go |
| 16:20.46 | nebula | why do you need masks for those? they were pretty simple bars |
| 16:21.00 | Shockah | i have no clue, never really tried to make such bars |
| 16:23.37 | foxlit | the problem with that ui style is that you can't blur the background in wow. |
| 16:24.07 | foxlit | you kind of need a semitransparent frame background that is visible against anything in the game world, which you can't do with the way wow renders textures. |
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| 16:28.17 | ls- | hm, looks like we can't apply MaskTextures to status bar textures... |
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| 16:56.22 | TheDanW | ls-: textures have AddMaskTexture and RemoveMaskTexture |
| 16:57.35 | ls- | TheDanW: mhm, got it. But why can't we apply it to status bar texture? :p |
| 17:00.34 | TheDanW | Funkeh`: got it, thanks for the report |
| 17:00.50 | Funkeh` | chances of a quick fix? |
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| 17:01.55 | Thunder_Child | Soon (tm) |
| 17:02.33 | TheDanW | sounds about right |
| 17:02.44 | Funkeh` | D: |
| 17:02.57 | Funkeh` | would redirecting whining users to you help |
| 17:03.08 | Stanzilla | Shockah: yeah using masks sadly crashed the client a lot so we were not able to push that in yet |
| 17:04.15 | TheDanW | ls-: there's a chance statusbars won't exist in their current form much longer, when/if that happens then parity will be easier to maintain |
| 17:04.49 | ls- | TheDanW: hehe... noice :D |
| 17:17.38 | VIad | nebula, nevcairiel, Kalroth I picked tkinter because I didnt wanna depend on extra modules, would make the binary even larger :P |
| 17:30.18 | nebula | VIad: eeh, using pyside or wx would be smaller than that, they're both around 6mb |
| 17:31.24 | nebula | oh, i suppose that was with upx |
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| 17:44.04 | karl_w_w | mx player pro on sale for almost nothing https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.pro |
| 17:45.38 | Thunder_Child | What makes that better than VLC? |
| 17:50.32 | nebula | for 10 cents you can find out! |
| 17:51.06 | Infus | ls-: I experimented a bit with mask textures, I can give you a small example code that works |
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| 17:51.30 | Infus | ls-: but in my experiments wow randomly crashes with a nullptr exception if I used that code |
| 17:52.05 | Infus | Shockah: the circular progress doesn't use MaskTextures but SetVertexOffset |
| 17:52.11 | Shockah | yeah yeah |
| 17:52.17 | Shockah | i said that already |
| 17:54.24 | ls- | ls-: ty, I got mine working... Sadly it doesn't work /w status bar's texture (statusbar:GetStatusBarTexture()), which means that I'll have to either use "fake" status bar texture or simply forget about these MaksTextures for now :p |
| 17:54.44 | ls- | ugh.. |
| 17:54.51 | ls- | Infus: ^ |
| 17:54.53 | ls- | I'm tired T_T |
| 17:54.57 | ls- | mentioned myself... |
| 17:55.08 | ls- | fml :( |
| 17:55.24 | Infus | so the crashes were when I tried to incorporate that into weakauras |
| 17:55.29 | Infus | not with my minimal example |
| 17:56.01 | Infus | TheDanW: did you figure out what caused the crashes with MaskTextures? |
| 17:56.47 | ls- | Infus: well, during legion beta I used to crash WoW client via usual masks :p |
| 17:57.25 | ls- | we have something in common :D |
| 17:59.31 | Infus | I don't have any idea what causes the crash, since it happens not immediately but on the next loading screen |
| 18:09.03 | ls- | Infus: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53492 that's mine :p |
| 18:10.00 | ls- | that bug was PITA T_T |
| 18:13.49 | karl_w_w | Thunder_Child, for me the UI and the performance when playing 10-bit |
| 18:14.18 | karl_w_w | there's a bunch of nice things it does as well but I don't remember |
| 18:14.36 | karl_w_w | good subtitle support including control of style |
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| 18:16.27 | karl_w_w | connecting to IRC takes longer than restarting my PC |
| 18:17.05 | TheDanW | Infus: it's not UI, something deeper in the engine, i'm not sure if the engine team has had a chance to look yet |
| 18:17.25 | Infus | isn't there a internal ticketing system where you can look? :) |
| 18:20.32 | TheDanW | yeah, but i'm busy/lazy |
| 18:34.27 | Fisker | Surely you can't be serious |
| 18:34.58 | karl_w_w | He is serious, and don't call him shirley |
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| 18:38.27 | TheDanW | Infus: can't repro it, the artifact UI is using masks but no one seems to be crashing there - do you have a minimal set of code that repros it? you're setting up the masks and then some point later when you zone or transition it crashes? |
| 18:38.56 | Infus | unfourtanetly not, I can try but the problem was that it only happened on the next reloadui/loading screen |
| 18:39.11 | Infus | as far as I can see nothing in the artifact ui calls RemoveMaskTexture |
| 18:39.34 | Semlar | maybe it's related to animations, or when you call the functions |
| 18:39.47 | Infus | I wasn't using animations on the textures/mask textures |
| 18:40.39 | Semlar | scroll frames? |
| 18:41.16 | Infus | nope :) |
| 18:45.37 | TheDanW | i may have found it, i'll try to get some time this afternoon to look closer |
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| 18:50.22 | Krish | Can someone confirm that GetItemInfo for non-english locales gives the local equivalent to gem as return value for item 144405 ? |
| 18:51.10 | Krish | i cleared my cache and i still get all kind of weird item types back |
| 18:51.41 | Infus | TheDanW: so did it result in a nullptr exception? :) |
| 18:53.04 | schlumpf | Krish: can confirm, Returns Gem (in deDE), leather and INVTYPE_WAIST. |
| 18:54.25 | ls- | TheDanW: btw, what do Get/SetVertexOffset do? o_O |
| 18:55.04 | Infus | ls-: I do have example code for that too |
| 18:55.26 | Krish | schlumpf: i guess the itemtype for 139893 is also wrong? |
| 18:55.51 | TheDanW | Infus: i haven't tested my theory, but i do see some suspect code in remove mask |
| 18:56.03 | Infus | ah okay, thanks |
| 18:56.17 | schlumpf | Krish: http://i.imgur.com/XzVS1gG.png |
| 18:56.37 | Krish | so it is not a local issue |
| 18:57.11 | Infus | ls-: or just try: SetVertexOffset(UPPER_RIGHT_VERTEX, x, y) where x and y are pixel values |
| 18:59.34 | Infus | ls-: I rewrote the circular progress with SetVertexOffset, might want to take a look on how I used it in wa |
| 19:00.00 | ls- | Infus: <3 |
| 19:04.34 | Krish | are the final arguments of getiteminfo documented already? i cant find details for the last 4 |
| 19:08.12 | TheDanW | 14: bind type, 15: expansionID, 16: itemSetID, 17: isTradeSkillItem |
| 19:10.21 | Krish | thanks TheDanW |
| 19:11.08 | [TOM_RUS] | seems like argument 6 of GetItemInfo returns wrong info, it returns string for itemclass+1 |
| 19:11.56 | Krish | english seems to be fine though |
| 19:12.19 | Krish | my sample item returns "armor" for my friend playing with an english client |
| 19:12.50 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: any news about the cache problem where you get random text in a wrong locale btw? |
| 19:13.14 | nevcairiel | i havent had that fora while |
| 19:13.41 | Gnarfoz | :s Hearthstone installer pops up a UAC dialog at the end, randomly stealing keyboard focus |
| 19:13.45 | Gnarfoz | no idea what I just said no to |
| 19:14.02 | Gnarfoz | stealing keyboard focus it the worst |
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| 19:20.17 | [TOM_RUS] | actually it can be both itemclass+1 and itemclass-1 (144405 has itemclass-1 and 128304 has itemclass+1) |
| 19:21.33 | Krish | it was weird to see itemtypes that no longer exist |
| 19:22.13 | TheDanW | i just looked, it's using the correct id, may be related to the issue Stanzilla mentioned |
| 19:22.38 | Stanzilla | so that is still a thing, ok |
| 19:22.54 | TheDanW | not sure |
| 19:23.59 | Krish | if it is off by one, it is not really random |
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| 19:33.05 | TheDanW | it's something else, not a code bug; the translations are incorrect - looks like they got imported incorrectly |
| 19:33.41 | TheDanW | should be fixed for 7.2.5 |
| 19:34.00 | Gnarfoz | easy solution: abolish translations |
| 19:34.36 | Stanzilla | ah |
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| 19:34.54 | Krish | TheDanW: How did you figure that one out? |
| 19:35.08 | Krish | Do we know btw how far off 7-2-5 is? |
| 19:35.25 | Gnarfoz | he has access to all sorts of juicy info |
| 19:35.38 | TheDanW | i'm an UI engineer on the World of Warcraft team |
| 19:36.22 | Krish | that would explain it |
| 19:37.00 | [TOM_RUS] | indeed data in db2 files is wrong |
| 19:37.52 | [TOM_RUS] | http://i.imgur.com/dC8Y4dJ.png |
| 19:38.33 | Krish | my russian is a bit rusty |
| 19:39.13 | Gnarfoz | well, you can tell that the indexes and translations shift between the two windows ^^ |
| 19:39.41 | Krish | and that container should probably be translated |
| 19:39.48 | Gnarfoz | probably |
| 19:40.44 | [TOM_RUS] | there's 2 containers |
| 19:40.53 | [TOM_RUS] | one in english and other in russian |
| 19:42.27 | Krish | translated, rather written in cyrillic letters, the word is often more or less the same |
| 19:42.39 | Krish | taxi, music, they are often similiar |
| 19:42.57 | Gnarfoz | also helps if you know some latin or greek =) |
| 19:43.44 | Krish | latin imported quite a few words from greek |
| 19:43.47 | Gnarfoz | but that covers most European(-ish) languages (except for Finnish/Hungarian) |
| 19:44.27 | Krish | the eastern europe languages have a different root so latin won't help much |
| 19:44.47 | Gnarfoz | sure, but there's still overlap |
| 19:45.03 | Gnarfoz | loan words or whatever |
| 19:45.19 | Fisker | https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/859428919946104832 Stanzilla |
| 19:45.58 | Fisker | SFP5 better have charging and video output over USB-C |
| 19:46.27 | Krish | loanword is really a correct translation, sounded wrong to me ;) |
| 19:49.27 | karl_w_w | http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1525001617301107 |
| 19:50.14 | karl_w_w | tl;dr hiv cured in mice |
| 19:50.36 | Krish | wasn't that something that mutated so fast that it couldn't be treated? |
| 19:52.13 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: https://www.xkcd.com/1823/ obligatory |
| 19:52.41 | karl_w_w | heh |
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| 20:08.49 | Antiarc | Man, I've been out of this way too long |
| 20:08.57 | Antiarc | How do I tell if a quest is in the same zone that the player is in? |
| 20:15.50 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: you watch 10-bit video on your phone? |
| 20:41.21 | Simca_ | !!! Discovered new filename: Interface\AddOns\Blizzard_APIDocumentation\ChatBubblesLua.lua |
| 20:41.40 | Simca_ | relevant new doc file in new build |
| 20:41.57 | Gethe | ooo |
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| 21:00.29 | p3lim | Simca_: contents? |
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| 21:10.58 | nebula | probably locking down chat bubbles like nameplates |
| 21:13.18 | Funkeh` | or adding proper filtering like I whined at them to |
| 21:13.32 | Stanzilla | well since that is the docs file |
| 21:15.48 | nebula | yea Stanzilla, docs for C_ChatBubbles, duh |
| 21:16.07 | Funkeh` | DUH Stanzilla |
| 21:16.09 | Stanzilla | DUH |
| 21:16.09 | Funkeh` | gosh |
| 21:16.13 | Stanzilla | gosh |
| 21:16.14 | Stanzilla | GAH |
| 21:16.15 | Stanzilla | ugh |
| 21:17.50 | Stanzilla | https://github.com/tomrus88/BlizzardInterfaceCode/commit/ae2520cb5234723c71f7b4b8560cc79f04eb086b |
| 21:18.32 | Funkeh` | that clears things up |
| 21:21.43 | nevcairiel | well the api makes it clear that there will be forbidden chat bubbles, anyway |
| 21:21.57 | Funkeh` | they kind of already are |
| 21:22.55 | nebula | didn't someone post a video here weeks ago where people switched to using chat bubbles for the Elisande positioning shit? |
| 21:24.14 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 21:24.20 | Stanzilla | and that is why they fixed it |
| 21:25.49 | Stanzilla | some of them were using exe edits to unlock nameplates though |
| 21:27.07 | nevcairiel | i'm still puzzled why they dont just make an exe edit an insta ban |
| 21:27.14 | nevcairiel | its so easy to detect |
| 21:28.40 | [TOM_RUS] | if it was that easy, they would have done it long time ago |
| 21:29.16 | nevcairiel | the binaries are digitally signed, just check if the signature still matches and done |
| 21:30.35 | [TOM_RUS] | how that would protect against in memory modification? |
| 21:30.44 | znf | ha, they did? |
| 21:31.22 | nevcairiel | modifying in memory is much harder then just editing the binary |
| 21:31.24 | znf | that wouldn't, nev said modified .exe |
| 21:31.54 | znf | like the ones that people used on betas/alphas to enable addons |
| 21:33.14 | TheDanW | Infus: no luck on the mask crash, can't get it to repro, code seems fine |
| 21:33.21 | znf | tough I was pretty sure that modified .exe on live would be an insta-ban |
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| 21:34.19 | znf | or not allow you to log on |
| 21:34.21 | [TOM_RUS] | yeah whole few minutes to write patcher, "much harder" |
| 21:35.07 | [TOM_RUS] | back in wotlk server refused to accept clients with modified exe, but that since was removed |
| 21:35.13 | Infus | TheDanW: okay, I'll try to figure out a minimal test case |
| 21:35.25 | znf | ah, I knew something was up |
| 21:35.36 | znf | makes you wonder why that changed |
| 21:35.52 | nevcairiel | they probably had issues with updating the servers fast enough when client hotfixes r olled out |
| 21:36.02 | znf | good point |
| 21:37.11 | znf | someone you wish you could pick TheDanW's brain ^^ |
| 21:38.04 | Thunder_Child | Scary thought. |
| 21:38.51 | TheDanW | extremely |
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| 22:52.52 | ccox | Sigh. Got a dozen web sites with serious problems today (all unrelated as far as I can tell). Unfortunately 3 of those are necessary for me to get much work done. |
| 22:57.46 | znf | rm -rf / |
| 23:03.26 | Mr_Rabies | <karl_w_w> mx player pro on sale for almost nothing https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.pro |
| 23:03.30 | Mr_Rabies | how does it compare with kodi? |
| 23:07.33 | znf | it doesn't |
| 23:07.36 | znf | one's a media player |
| 23:07.40 | znf | the other one is a media center |
| 23:07.58 | Funkeh` | MX would compare to VLC |
| 23:08.27 | znf | but for that price, I'll buy it |
| 23:08.34 | znf | I used the free version years ago |
| 23:08.39 | znf | back in 2.x android days |
| 23:09.01 | Funkeh` | I bought it, then dropped it for VLC since it has network support built in |
| 23:09.09 | Mr_Rabies | i mean i guess, znf |
| 23:09.16 | Mr_Rabies | kodi's key component is a media player |
| 23:09.40 | Mr_Rabies | it does have advanced library stuff that i have zero use for, but it does playback pretty well |
| 23:09.50 | znf | the library is the good part |
| 23:09.56 | znf | and plugins, obviously |
| 23:10.00 | Mr_Rabies | i like files, personally |
| 23:10.02 | znf | else you're better off with only vlc/mxplayer |
| 23:10.52 | znf | you can actually use an external player Kodi |
| 23:10.52 | Mr_Rabies | my friend has a firetv and we just use kodi since it's kinda the gold standard |
| 23:11.00 | znf | like mxplayer or vlc |
| 23:11.15 | znf | tough you obviously lose the fancy features of kodi |
| 23:11.21 | Mr_Rabies | we don't really need the library stuff, but confluence works great with the firetv |
| 23:11.31 | Mr_Rabies | can mxplayer do audio passthrough? |
| 23:11.34 | Mr_Rabies | dts-hd, etc? |
| 23:12.00 | Mr_Rabies | or does it depend on the android api version's compatibility with that stuff |
| 23:12.30 | nevcairiel | it definitely depends on android as well, but i couldnt tell you if the player leverages that if possible |
| 23:12.36 | znf | no idea |
| 23:12.44 | znf | I have no use for passtrough unfortunately |
| 23:13.18 | Mr_Rabies | kodi sort of does |
| 23:13.27 | Mr_Rabies | officially, the newest version uses the official android api to do things |
| 23:13.53 | Mr_Rabies | but there's a "shitty build" that uses the old hacky method that we have to use with the firetv since it's still running android 5.x |
| 23:14.14 | znf | I am aware |
| 23:14.32 | Mr_Rabies | 5.x is pretty shoddy for audio in general using the api, but passthrough seems to work pretty well using the hacky method |
| 23:14.33 | Mr_Rabies | vOv |
| 23:21.28 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: neat. |
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