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| 01:00.51 | Stanzilla | http://www.wowhead.com/news=263137/blizzard-posts-group-finder-addons-changed-for-performance-issues |
| 01:05.07 | _Kee | Mythic defender is from 250, anyone know if there is any reward for it, or just another micro-holiday without anything to gain? |
| 01:06.13 | Stanzilla | I guess it was the above what was pushed in the client update a fewm inutes ago |
| 01:07.07 | Semlar | what do you mean fatal exception |
| 01:07.37 | Semlar | well i broke the game |
| 01:08.27 | Semlar | The instruction at "0x000000014078feb1" referenced memory at "0x0000000000000000". how rude |
| 01:09.19 | Corrodias | what an asshole |
| 01:09.42 | Torhal | That's what you get for sending an instruction to an empty parking lot. |
| 01:10.01 | Semlar | that's fine, i didn't want to log into that character anyway |
| 01:21.51 | Semlar | don't worry, it magically fixed itself |
| 01:23.30 | Torhal | That seems bad, Semlar. |
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| 01:38.23 | Funkeh` | TheDanW, http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/1059747-group-finder-addons-changed/ you people are the worst |
| 01:39.19 | Stanzilla | I already linked that 30min ago, you are the worst |
| 01:39.59 | Funkeh` | spammed out by people with bad connections |
| 02:14.14 | Corrodias | they are truly the worst |
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| 02:52.35 | Funkeh` | TheDanW, any reason you didn't protect editing an already listed group? |
| 02:54.08 | Gethe | probably because that wouldn't affect the server issues they were trying to fix |
| 02:54.54 | Funkeh` | they weren't very descriptive on that front |
| 02:55.42 | Gethe | not in the blue post, but Ion mentioned it in the Q&A |
| 02:57.19 | Gethe | he said it was about the constant swapping of servers due to addons, and their own tech trying to keep groups together. |
| 02:57.26 | Funkeh` | "Addons that are automatically creating groups are causing performance issues." that's all I got from MMOC :P |
| 02:57.43 | Funkeh` | there's no elaboration on why this is an issue since 7.2 |
| 02:58.09 | Gethe | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:14.52 | Semlar | probably because it's becoming increasingly popular to use addons to server hop |
| 03:21.02 | Funkeh` | creating groups was stated as the problem, not server hopping. i.e. WQGF addon |
| 03:21.14 | Funkeh` | which tbh, isn't really THAT popular |
| 03:24.16 | _Kee | I don't know anybody not using WQGF |
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| 03:25.10 | _Kee | Why would someone not use WQGF? |
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| 03:26.06 | Funkeh` | no one I know uses it |
| 03:26.13 | Constie | There's this person: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2209416-My-7-reasons-why-you-should-uninstall-your-WQGF-addon |
| 03:26.20 | Funkeh` | infact, most people complain about it when seeing it in LFG |
| 03:26.56 | Funkeh` | the inbuilt find group button works perfectly for me |
| 03:27.15 | Semlar | if it's popular enough that people are complaining about it then someone must be using it |
| 03:27.50 | Funkeh` | your addon doesn't need to be popular when it creates a group that can be seen across the entirety of EU... |
| 03:30.06 | Semlar | what addon of yours has this change ruined |
| 03:32.33 | Funkeh` | badboy |
| 03:32.45 | Semlar | why does badboy need to search lfg groups |
| 03:33.06 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 03:33.06 | Funkeh` | to report spammers |
| 03:33.11 | _Kee | So, instead of flying near quest area and alt tab, we'll have to click a button before alt tab now? |
| 03:34.18 | Funkeh` | no, you'd need to click a button on every search |
| 03:34.20 | Semlar | that seems to go beyond its original scope of just filtering out spam |
| 03:34.41 | Funkeh` | so no more afk searching continually |
| 03:34.56 | Funkeh` | Semlar, if you say so |
| 03:35.38 | _Kee | Sometimes I could do a few world quest while flying from one flypoint to another, with game minimizied, without doing completelly nothing. |
| 03:35.46 | Semlar | seems like if they wanted automated reports they'd just monitor it themselves |
| 03:36.17 | Funkeh` | hahahaha |
| 03:36.19 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 03:36.37 | Funkeh` | I can just imagine blizz paying someone to police the group finder |
| 03:36.45 | Funkeh` | oh no wait, that would cost money |
| 03:36.47 | Semlar | what? obviously with a script |
| 03:37.00 | _Kee | I find this change bad as I'll have to click button in order to get reward, I rather do nothing and get reward. Meh :( |
| 03:37.18 | Funkeh` | This is a pointless argument, you don't have a clue what they keep doing to avoid detection |
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| 03:40.30 | Semlar | i realize it's pointless to explain this, but by flooding them with automated reports based on what you think is spam, what you're doing is forcing them to automate the handling of this larger volume of reports and making reports by actual people less meaningful |
| 03:40.54 | Semlar | i personally think it's unlikely that any of the reports are very meaningful to begin with |
| 03:41.05 | Funkeh` | ok sir you know best |
| 03:41.12 | Semlar | i'm glad you understand |
| 03:42.01 | _Kee | On elvui's chat there is sometimes a big invisible area that automatically reports spammers onclick. |
| 03:42.36 | _Kee | so I click the chat to write, and it reports spammer instead, it's handy. and also decreases power of reports. |
| 03:43.35 | Semlar | TheDanW: how do you guys feel about the mass automation of spam reports by addons |
| 03:47.55 | Torhal | Someone should write an AddOn to automatically report Semlar for breaking the game. |
| 03:48.10 | Semlar | is that why i couldn't log in earlier |
| 03:48.16 | Torhal | >.> |
| 03:48.26 | Semlar | y u do dis torhal |
| 03:48.39 | kd3 | wait, what. spam reporting still isn't a protected action? |
| 03:48.56 | Funkeh` | it is |
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| 03:52.26 | Funkeh` | I wonder what the stats are for https website traffic now |
| 03:53.08 | Funkeh` | can't find a more recent qualys report |
| 03:53.16 | _Kee | clicking invisible report layer over chat sometimes shows big error on centre of screen about internal calendar error, whatever it means in connection with report. |
| 03:53.30 | _Kee | it would be cool if it was fixed. |
| 03:57.46 | Funkeh` | _Kee, are you sure that's elvui not an old version of badboy? |
| 03:58.26 | _Kee | I know it's showed over elvui chat, dunno which addon adds it |
| 04:00.09 | _Kee | ok checked, I have a few addon that matches this name, exactly: "BadBoy", "BadBoy_CCleaner", and "BadBoy_Ignore". So it's possible that it comes from one of them. |
| 04:00.44 | Funkeh` | well if it's coming from badboy, update it, and you won't have the calendar problem anymore |
| 04:01.03 | _Kee | without those badboy addons I have spam on trade chat, so I never remove them. |
| 04:02.59 | _Kee | I think I have it up-to-date since I update it with curse^Wtwitch client, but error still sometimes shows up. |
| 04:03.29 | Funkeh` | doesn't sound like it, or it's caused by something else (manual reporting) |
| 04:08.30 | Funkeh` | ooh https://letsencrypt.org/stats/ |
| 04:08.58 | Funkeh` | source: firefox telemetry, heh maybe not |
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| 05:12.50 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 05:20.25 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 05:20.32 | Fisker | yay |
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| 07:16.11 | jleclanche | god damn it, what https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/153602351847047169/307414617380880384/unknown.png |
| 07:16.21 | jleclanche | even python doesnt have that many different ones |
| 07:16.24 | jleclanche | also hi Stanzilla |
| 07:39.44 | mitch0 | jleclanche: yo. are you still involved with lxqt? |
| 07:39.51 | jleclanche | somewhat, why? |
| 07:39.59 | mitch0 | just curious how it goes |
| 07:40.03 | jleclanche | i dont really have time for it anymore but im still in touch |
| 07:40.14 | jleclanche | this is what i do nowadays: https://hearthsim.net/ |
| 07:40.56 | mitch0 | I see. well, good luck with it then! |
| 07:41.33 | jleclanche | lxqt dev is still happening though, i keep an eye on it. agaida in #lxqt handles everything now, passed the reins there |
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| 10:31.32 | nevcairiel | Simca: Gnarfoz_: I don't know when exactly it happened, but sometime in the last week my PTR install shrunk from 50.5gb to 41.8gb without me doing anything |
| 10:35.54 | VIad | hmm, is it me or did blizz kill the group finding addon? |
| 10:36.17 | VIad | or more specifically, I was drafting some code yesterday and it showed promise, suddenly today its not working right :P |
| 10:36.21 | Phixion | so out of the loop VIad |
| 10:36.24 | VIad | sorry |
| 10:36.34 | VIad | just had to happened over night :P |
| 10:36.56 | VIad | the API silently fails |
| 10:37.02 | VIad | requires HW events now |
| 10:37.07 | Simca | group finding requires hardware events as of exe build last night |
| 10:37.11 | VIad | yes |
| 10:37.22 | VIad | so time to hook the mouse clicking again? ;P |
| 10:37.33 | VIad | re: fishing poles |
| 10:37.53 | nevcairiel | if you want them to protect it entirely, sure |
| 10:38.11 | VIad | yeah well this would only be for private use |
| 10:38.13 | VIad | :p |
| 10:38.20 | Simca | you can't do that without inconveniencing the user anyway |
| 10:38.44 | VIad | no but say yes to popup and click the mouse a couple of times, but yeah I guess RIP ^^ |
| 10:38.46 | Simca | anyway they talked about it in the Q&A yesterday, blamed the shitty phasing problems of the last several months on the group finding system being overused |
| 10:39.19 | Simca | idk if they were right because it took 4 si'vash groups this morning to get into the same phase as the si'vash kill |
| 10:39.44 | Simca | first 3 all had less than 5 out of the 40 people standed with me in a phase that there was no world boss in |
| 10:39.52 | Simca | stranded* |
| 10:40.04 | Simca | so i think their tech is just totally broken |
| 10:40.46 | Simca | unless they're trying to imply that there was such a significant number of users on the old build that it was still an issue even this morning, lol |
| 10:40.54 | VIad | xd |
| 10:42.07 | Simca | in any case, i know how dev teams can sometimes think 'hmm, this thing A is the issue' and then not look into it farther, assuming fixing A will fix it. but now that it is still broken, maybe they will look harder |
| 10:44.27 | VIad | yeah |
| 10:44.46 | VIad | I mean I guess I'll accept a break in the group finding addon activity if they can fix their server issues :p |
| 10:46.35 | Simca | @nevcairiel: yeah for what it is worth, in the same time period, my PTR client has -not- shrunk at all, but i just swapped to it and the 'play' button was an 'update' button, meaning it couldn't have done any of the 'minor updates' that reduce install size because they were blocked by an actual update |
| 10:49.54 | Semlar | my game is up to 66gb |
| 10:51.04 | Simca | go for 100, be the hero we deserve |
| 10:51.21 | Semlar | it's going to fill up my ssd before that happens |
| 10:52.13 | Semlar | i have the PTR installed to a normal hard drive and it is unbelievably slow to load |
| 10:52.31 | Semlar | i don't know if that drive is just slow or something's wrong with it |
| 10:52.35 | Simca | there's something wrong with the PTR, sometimes the load time is literally 5 minutes |
| 10:52.38 | Simca | with no addons |
| 10:52.55 | Simca | it's weird though because other times it is instant |
| 10:55.44 | Semlar | well at least it's not just me |
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| 11:11.30 | Torhal | I've had that behavior since Legion. |
| 11:11.36 | Torhal | Instant or forever. |
| 11:12.36 | Semlar | just the PTR? |
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| 11:16.03 | B73-NS | But I think you agree with the fact that by that was abused by too many people, not to mention those that use bots. |
| 11:17.21 | Torhal | No, live. |
| 11:23.13 | VIad | tbh if blizz implemented phasing to try group people that do quests |
| 11:23.20 | VIad | it would solve the whole addon issue :p |
| 11:23.52 | VIad | if you enter quest area and there arent many phased in your area and you have the quest, it could try smartly put you in a temp phase in there until you finish or something |
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| 12:07.40 | Torhal | Damn it, Semlar; give me my realms back. |
| 12:07.54 | Semlar | finders keepers |
| 12:11.06 | Torhal | Y U DO DIS |
| 12:11.17 | ls- | sup, does anyone use ls: Toasts? :p If yes, have you noticed any abnormalities in its mem usage? o_O |
| 12:11.35 | Shockah | i'm never checking the mem usage |
| 12:11.43 | Shockah | but i'm using the toasts |
| 12:12.22 | ls- | today I found this in the comments > So I am sitting in nighthold and watching this addon's memory climb. Not sure why but can we get it to disable in instances or have a dnd mode inside instances so it won't chew up memory? |
| 12:12.48 | ls- | I spawned 200 toasts, my mem usage went up to 0.7MB... |
| 12:12.52 | Shockah | hm |
| 12:12.55 | ls- | so it should be something else.. |
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| 12:13.23 | Shockah | i'll keep an eye on it, especially while raiding |
| 12:13.38 | Torhal | raids Semlar's pantry. |
| 12:13.47 | ls- | Torhal: lmao :D |
| 12:13.56 | ls- | Shockah: ty <3 |
| 12:13.58 | Shockah | also my WoW keeps randomly freezing for 30+s, ESPECIALLY in Nighthold |
| 12:14.06 | Shockah | started doing that like 1.5 weeks ago |
| 12:14.21 | Shockah | no CPU/HDD usage |
| 12:14.23 | Shockah | it just freezes |
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| 12:16.09 | Semlar | you should see how much memory my crack cooldown addon uses |
| 12:16.25 | foxlit | hint: ALL OF IT. |
| 12:16.28 | Semlar | it creates a ton of garbage because one of the api functions returns a table |
| 12:16.33 | Semlar | and it's just calling it on update |
| 12:16.52 | Semlar | it doesn't seem to really have much effect on anything, so i'm ignoring it |
| 12:18.03 | Semlar | it's fun to watch it climb until the garbage collector runs though |
| 12:19.55 | Shockah | guess no one got any ideas about the freezes\ |
| 12:20.16 | Semlar | maybe your video card is overheating |
| 12:20.33 | Shockah | hmm, why would that freeze? |
| 12:20.48 | Shockah | i mean, it freezes and then works again |
| 12:21.01 | Semlar | maybe it's taking a nap until it cools off |
| 12:21.12 | ls- | Semlar: your comment helped me to find possible culprit! Transmog toasts create a lot of garbage because API returns shitton of huge tables :D |
| 12:21.35 | Semlar | ^_^ |
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| 13:20.20 | Andols | ls-: I use it, anything special I should keep an eye on? |
| 13:20.59 | ls- | monitor mem usage from time to time, please :D |
| 13:21.14 | ls- | if it goes abnormally high, please, tell me about it T_T |
| 13:21.30 | Andols | Ok :) |
| 13:25.48 | ls- | damn, I was planning to release an update a bit later, but oh well... Improved skin support is going live today I guess :p |
| 13:26.04 | ls- | https://i.imgur.com/e23GlZF.png :p |
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| 14:43.21 | Stanzilla | aww he gave up https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/681bdp/group_finder_functions_have_been_restricted/ |
| 14:45.53 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:46.05 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 14:51.40 | ls- | lel |
| 14:54.43 | ls- | guess API change is his excuse to stop dealing w/ users :D |
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| 15:20.42 | VIad | ls-: even if he fixes it, blizz will really fix the APIs :P |
| 15:23.16 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:31.41 | Thunder_Child | Ever think you have too much time on your hands foxlit? |
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| 15:36.34 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: no, that seems silly. |
| 15:37.44 | Andols | you did a what? |
| 15:52.19 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:55.09 | TheDanW | Semlar, ls-: we optimized the GC and allocators for that case, if there's an actual performance issue i'd be interested, but the GC doing its job isn't concerning |
| 16:59.25 | ls- | TheDanW: cool, yeah, I was quite surprised by that comment on Curse, I actually had to spawn hundreds toasts in short bursts via C_Timer to make my addon hog a lot of memory (18MB, it normally uses 300-400 KB), but it went back to normal quite fast :p |
| 17:01.47 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.43 | TheDanW | Semlar: do you have a short snippet of how SetMacroSpell is being used? |
| 17:03.37 | Semlar | you can reproduce this by just calling SetMacroSpell(macroname, anyspell) and zoning into a new area through a loading screen |
| 17:04.10 | TheDanW | i see, i'll have QA look, vid should help a lot |
| 17:04.36 | Semlar | this particular spell, consumption from a dk artifact weapon gets cleared every time they go through a new subzone, which is worse than the other behavior for some reason |
| 17:04.59 | foxlit | TheDanW: more generally, API to override macro icon, cooldown, and tooltip feedback would be great. |
| 17:07.26 | Semlar | i "fixed" it for most spells by just watching ACTIONBAR_SLOT_CHANGED and calling SetMacroSpell on everything again with a 1 frame delay |
| 17:07.36 | Semlar | this spell doesn't trigger that event |
| 17:07.52 | Semlar | i don't know if it's just because it's being applied by their weapon or what |
| 17:11.02 | Semlar | oh, my character is back to crashing the game every time i try to log onto it |
| 17:11.37 | Semlar | i should probably move it somewhere else, maybe it's in a buggy location |
| 17:13.34 | Semlar | if i can ever get back onto it |
| 17:14.49 | ls- | :D #justsemlarthings |
| 17:16.09 | karl_w_w | I'm trying to remember a word that goes with the word expectations, to describe something that breaks expectations |
| 17:16.22 | Semlar | unexpected |
| 17:16.34 | karl_w_w | like a game or something that doesnt do what you expect for its genre |
| 17:17.05 | karl_w_w | it's "this game <somethings> expectations" |
| 17:17.11 | Semlar | transcends |
| 17:17.26 | Alram | exceeds |
| 17:17.29 | karl_w_w | more like contradicts |
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| 17:19.24 | karl_w_w | I'll go with contravene but it still feels wrong |
| 17:19.25 | Thunder_Child | skew? |
| 17:19.41 | Semlar | hang on let me get my thesaurus |
| 17:19.54 | Semlar | how about "defies" |
| 17:20.01 | karl_w_w | thanks semlar |
| 17:20.14 | Torhal | "stomps soundly upon" |
| 17:20.17 | Semlar | disaffirms |
| 17:20.40 | karl_w_w | shits on |
| 17:21.09 | Semlar | repudiates |
| 17:21.10 | Torhal | "operates as though written by Semlar with no intent to publish" |
| 17:21.19 | Stanzilla | https://i.imgur.com/KRYNNlE.jpg |
| 17:21.19 | karl_w_w | zing |
| 17:21.22 | Semlar | disaffirms torhal |
| 17:21.23 | Thunder_Child | Semlar's upon |
| 17:21.25 | Stanzilla | elisande decided to not free me from timestop |
| 17:21.32 | Torhal | defenestrates Semlar. |
| 17:21.38 | Semlar | she put you in time out |
| 17:21.41 | Alram | fiskers |
| 17:21.44 | karl_w_w | confounds |
| 17:21.48 | karl_w_w | that's a great word |
| 17:21.53 | Alram | man that game totally fiskered my expectations |
| 17:21.54 | Thunder_Child | Torhal: That assumes he is near a window. |
| 17:21.54 | Alram | perfect |
| 17:21.55 | Torhal | Whoah, Alram - that was uncalled for. |
| 17:22.12 | Alram | not sorry |
| 17:22.19 | karl_w_w | I can't believe you would make fun of a dying man |
| 17:22.38 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: That is correct, but it could also mean the window was made by his speedy travel through the air. |
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| 17:23.23 | Thunder_Child | Torhal: No, the window has to exist beforehand. |
| 17:23.38 | Torhal | That's absurd! |
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| 17:24.26 | Torhal | tosses Neffi through a wall, thereby creating a window through which he defenestrates Semlar. |
| 17:27.27 | Semlar | does this mean you're a windows user? |
| 17:28.27 | Simca | KappaRoss |
| 17:28.30 | Thunder_Child | "strips of metal foil or metal filings dispersed in the air to obstruct radar detection." I fail to see how that is one definition of window. I could see that as creating "a window to esacpe." but not on its own. |
| 17:29.09 | Torhal | Wow, Semlar. Rude. |
| 17:37.03 | Semlar | sounds like chaff thunder_child |
| 17:37.47 | Thunder_Child | Semlar: Yes, that is exactly what it is. |
| 17:39.14 | Semlar | according to wikipedia it was code-named "Window" |
| 17:40.47 | Thunder_Child | But that should not be a definition of window then. |
| 17:41.33 | Semlar | i suppose it's not technically wrong, but that seems like a pretty obscure reference |
| 17:42.41 | Thunder_Child | It is tecnically wrong. It would be like calling my product 'window' then expecting it to be added to the dictionary. |
| 17:49.15 | p3lim | TheDanW: please change the hardware protection on the LFG API to a limit like with inspects, it's breaking so many addons |
| 17:49.43 | p3lim | One example was an addon I used that filtered the results, that one is broken as well now :/ |
| 17:54.26 | p3lim | Hell, even this little snippet is broken (force-shows the LFG button in the quest tracker for any WQs, not just group ones): https://gist.github.com/p3lim/a87f1c9d9fe0db3f418f592cda3f0ab5 |
| 17:54.45 | TheDanW | p3lim: it's still possible to filter results in an addon |
| 17:55.05 | p3lim | From what I can tell, everything from C_LFGList is protected |
| 17:55.08 | TheDanW | that snippet should function fine, nothing changed with those calls |
| 17:55.13 | TheDanW | nope |
| 17:55.42 | p3lim | This is what in effect that snippet does: https://i.p3lim.net/170428-195533.png |
| 17:55.57 | Semlar | stop breaking things |
| 17:56.08 | p3lim | and this is the error I get from clicking the button: https://gist.github.com/p3lim/a87f1c9d9fe0db3f418f592cda3f0ab5#gistcomment-2077960 |
| 17:57.47 | ls- | p3lim: you're stealing Semlar's job, mate :p |
| 17:57.58 | p3lim | I tend to participate :p |
| 17:58.08 | Semlar | the error implies something you did triggered an event that starts a search from the ui |
| 17:59.39 | Semlar | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/live/Blizzard_ObjectiveTracker/Blizzard_ObjectiveTrackerShared.lua#189 this is what it's pointing to though |
| 17:59.42 | TheDanW | there's not enough information there to tell whats going on, but my guess is you're trying to do two or more calls that required hardware events in one hardware event |
| 18:00.16 | p3lim | That snippet is everything causing that error |
| 18:00.46 | Semlar | oh, no, the error is from you tainting a protected button |
| 18:01.00 | Semlar | i didn't read that it was moving their actual lfg button somewhere else |
| 18:02.03 | Semlar | it's not from that snippet |
| 18:02.26 | Semlar | well, unless QuestUtils_CanUseAutoGroupFinder is a blizzard function you're replacing |
| 18:02.35 | p3lim | nop |
| 18:02.51 | p3lim | well, FrameXML defined |
| 18:03.02 | Semlar | well replacing that is going to taint anything that uses it |
| 18:03.18 | p3lim | somewhere along the chain C_LFGList.Search() is used |
| 18:04.11 | p3lim | I could implement a new button, but I've never implemented anything using hw protected api :p |
| 18:04.25 | ls- | it's time to learn something new :p |
| 18:04.51 | Semlar | can you not just /click their search button |
| 18:05.13 | p3lim | The search button is not present unless the WQ is a group WQ |
| 18:05.15 | foxlit | you're drunk, Semlar. |
| 18:05.27 | p3lim | thus not updated with correct parameters |
| 18:05.29 | Torhal | implements a Sober Semlar. |
| 18:06.11 | foxlit | TheDanW is right; it's trying to do both ClearSearchResults and Search on one hardware event, which breaks it. |
| 18:06.29 | foxlit | hence adding function C_LFGList.ClearSearchResults() end would fix it. |
| 18:08.44 | Semlar | i should probably go to sleep |
| 18:15.32 | [TOM_RUS] | why is C_LFGList.Search() even need hardware event in first place? it does no harm at all |
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| 18:16.16 | [TOM_RUS] | creating group/applying to group makes sense to have hardware event, but why search? |
| 18:16.40 | foxlit | it's an obvious server call, yeah? |
| 18:16.50 | [TOM_RUS] | and what? |
| 18:17.12 | [TOM_RUS] | it already had a trrottle |
| 18:17.17 | [TOM_RUS] | throttle* |
| 18:18.07 | [TOM_RUS] | protecting search broke my addon as well and I have no idea how to fix it |
| 18:18.15 | Alram | git gud [TOM_RUS] |
| 18:18.18 | foxlit | it's just a hardware event requirement. |
| 18:18.24 | foxlit | go read https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20754326419 or something. |
| 18:19.18 | Fisker | I think Alram is gud |
| 18:20.58 | Alram | thanks Fisker |
| 18:21.35 | [TOM_RUS] | simply replacing LFGListUtil_SortSearchResultsCB with my own sorting func breaks default UI, explaing me why |
| 18:23.03 | foxlit | tainting the framexml lfg ui makes the hardware event requirement apply to it as well; what p3lim brought up above is essentially the same issue. |
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| 18:26.25 | foxlit | the default ui tries to perform multiple hw-protected actions in one go; if it is secure, it succeeds; if you taint it, the .Search call, which runs second, fails. |
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| 18:27.22 | [TOM_RUS] | so blizzard created more problems with those "hotfixes" than they fixed ance again |
| 18:27.34 | [TOM_RUS] | everything worked find and they broke it |
| 18:27.51 | p3lim | anything touching any of the questutils api will taint the LFG tool |
| 18:28.01 | Thunder_Child | Well everything was not working fine. |
| 18:28.14 | Alram | pls [TOM_RUS] instead of complaining try listening to the people helping you for once |
| 18:30.20 | [TOM_RUS] | Alram: i've no idea how to do stuff I want without tainting blizz UI |
| 18:31.05 | [TOM_RUS] | I've never heard of server lag caused to groupfinder till yesterday, and never expirienced any lag myself, neither any ppl I know did |
| 18:31.18 | Alram | that does not mean its not there |
| 18:31.24 | [TOM_RUS] | so all that sounds like bullshit excuse just to break addons |
| 18:31.39 | Alram | why would they break it otherwise |
| 18:31.45 | Alram | just to "ruin the fun"? |
| 18:31.48 | Alram | thats not an argument |
| 18:32.00 | Ressy | Because it now works like Rift's system, which is better? |
| 18:32.45 | [TOM_RUS] | Alram: they always do that for that exact reason "ruin the fun" |
| 18:32.54 | Alram | yeah no |
| 18:33.10 | Alram | thats a tinfoil hat argument that does them no good |
| 18:33.54 | Ressy | Its apparently also broken BadBoy. BadBoy can't hide/clear the spam groups |
| 18:34.24 | schlumpf | I only wish that somehow dialogkey works for applytogroup() again. without that, using the default ui to search is just not fun |
| 18:34.41 | [TOM_RUS] | camera distance nerf, unit positions in raids nerf, friendly nameplaces nerf, mob ilvl scaling and now group finder nerf - none of those provided any benefit to playerbase, it was entirely opposite |
| 18:34.42 | Ressy | Honestly, the current ui is crappy for groups. |
| 18:34.58 | Ressy | There are multiple places to search for a group for World Quests. |
| 18:35.08 | Alram | unit positions/nameplates is arguable |
| 18:35.33 | Ressy | Quests & custom. Which makes it take longer to search. With the addon at least, it put all groups in the same place, and it was faster to find. |
| 18:36.20 | Ressy | Frankly, if Blizz is doing this, they need to clean up their UI.. Get rid of Quests, just do Raids, instances and custom |
| 18:39.34 | schlumpf | especially make it easy to find a group for the quest you're currently on/have in your tracker |
| 18:41.21 | Ressy | Problem is, when you're doing a world quest, both places apply, quest & custom.. And honestly, I never see any useful group in Quest. Always find it in custom |
| 18:41.34 | Alram | i always use custom |
| 18:41.36 | Gnarfoz_ | nevcairiel: Simca_: my live install is exactly that size at the moment as well (41.8), but PTR is 43.3 |
| 18:41.39 | Alram | no need for addons |
| 18:41.40 | Ressy | So, it takes more server resources, cuz you gotta search multiple places. |
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| 19:24.29 | Andols | Why is ClearSearchResults a HW event :/ |
| 19:29.03 | foxlit | why don't you hazard a guess, Andols :) |
| 19:35.18 | Simca_ | considering clearing search results doesn't impact the server, not sure |
| 19:35.39 | Simca_ | unless it is part of the issue foxlit mentioned above with taint |
| 19:36.13 | Alram | clearly everyone should just undo the exe hotfix |
| 19:36.15 | Alram | and get on with their lives |
| 19:36.42 | foxlit | Simca_: if it helps, it's more of a "unsubscribe from search results". |
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| 19:50.28 | foxlit | (so it's might be that the functions map to the equivalent of tellServerToSearch("query") and tellServerToSearch(NULL), with the hw event check implemented inside that; or maybe someone was just overly enthusiastic about flagging things) |
| 19:52.33 | _ChRiS_ | seems like the second option |
| 19:53.00 | Andols | I see |
| 19:53.04 | Andols | Lets blame Guill! |
| 20:07.41 | TheDanW | i agree |
| 20:08.18 | Fisker | I too, agree |
| 20:08.35 | Fisker | But I will also take the time to hug Cairenn |
| 20:08.42 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 20:09.18 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 23:08.45 | _Kee | 1x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn 'ServerHop' tried to call the protected function 'Search()'. |
| 23:08.57 | _Kee | 1x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn 'BadBoy' tried to call the protected function 'Search()'. |
| 23:09.00 | _Kee | what a spam! |
| 23:09.27 | _Kee | -_- |
| 23:10.18 | Funkeh` | I mean, I told you to update yesterday, and you still haven't, so |
| 23:10.31 | Alram | well everyone that uses server hop is a dick anyway |
| 23:10.32 | Alram | so all good |
| 23:10.41 | Alram | :3 |
| 23:11.03 | Stanzilla | thanks Alram |
| 23:11.12 | Alram | except people named Stanzilla |
| 23:11.13 | Funkeh` | hah |
| 23:11.30 | Stanzilla | <3 |
| 23:14.04 | VIad | after years, my companion stopped burning :( |
| 23:14.17 | VIad | I tamed a burning boar long time ago, did some TW and stuff and noticed just now my pet is no longer burning |
| 23:14.30 | VIad | that actually made me sad right now, my pet is gone |
| 23:14.53 | Alram | tweet muffinus |
| 23:14.56 | Alram | he likes fixing things like that |
| 23:15.43 | VIad | but it was like a special rare tame that kept the pets visual effect |
| 23:15.51 | VIad | probably purged away the hidden aura on it |
| 23:16.00 | VIad | dont know if any GM will wanna fix it or can :/ |
| 23:18.11 | VIad | before and now :'( http://ss.bool.no/capture_1493421484.png |
| 23:18.20 | Alram | aww |
| 23:18.35 | Alram | no mariadb alt? |
| 23:18.50 | VIad | :) |
| 23:19.08 | Funkeh` | fire? |
| 23:19.11 | VIad | no but for real, I am very sad that I lost my pet. been with him for so long. |
| 23:19.16 | Funkeh` | looks more like he's had a few too many beans |
| 23:19.35 | Alram | he's still the same pet that loved you years ago |
| 23:19.46 | VIad | he lost his mojo |
| 23:19.46 | Alram | but all pets lose their fire over time |
| 23:20.09 | VIad | it's like if you tamed something blizz later made untameable |
| 23:20.16 | VIad | then later they just remove your uniqueness |
| 23:20.17 | VIad | :( |
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| 23:22.30 | _ChRiS_ | UnitPosition is protected, it seems its not but wanted to make sure, Im trying something using that function with /whois and relatives distances |
| 23:24.03 | _ChRiS_ | Sorry Im on phone, i wanted to make sure if unitposition is not protected outside of groups(it seems its not) |
| 23:27.13 | Funkeh` | it isn't protected at all, just doesn't return positions in instances |
| 23:28.18 | VIad | I use it to detect player map |
| 23:28.23 | VIad | can also UnitGUID that info though |
| 23:28.41 | VIad | but x,y dont show in instances in UnitPos |
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