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| 00:19.01 | *** topic/#wowuidev is Reminder: BC tickets on sale SATURDAY, 8 Apr, 10am PDT || 7.2.x ToC: 70200 || http://pastebin.com || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || This channel is logged, via purl |
| 00:54.24 | pompy | Cairenn: http://www.pcgamer.com/the-konami-code-is-hidden-inside-the-bank-of-canadas-new-10-bill-announcement/ |
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| 01:03.56 | Stanzilla | @stanzillaz: Check out this item I just got! [Riddler's Mind-Worm] https://t.co/nkYoo5u6Vl #Warcraft |
| 01:03.57 | Stanzilla | here |
| 01:03.57 | Stanzilla | we |
| 01:03.58 | Stanzilla | go |
| 01:06.34 | Torhal | Huh? |
| 01:07.17 | Stanzilla | it was a riddle in WoW |
| 01:25.19 | Cairenn | heh |
| 02:05.48 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn and Torhal at the same time beating the world record for longest arms |
| 02:06.06 | Torhal | I'm certain those can no longer be classified as arms. |
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| 02:09.13 | ccox | http://www.bankofcanada.ca/banknotes/banknote150/ + konami code ⦠I guess some web developers have a sense of history after all :-) |
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| 03:28.08 | ccox | Pepsi: That was the biggest PR blunder of the week, year maybe. |
| 03:28.09 | ccox | United: Hold my beer. |
| 03:28.10 | ccox | Sean Spicer: LEEEEEEEEEERROOOOOOOY JEEEENNNNNNKINS! |
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| 03:31.00 | ccox | decompress after reading the news: https://www.facebook.com/viralthread/videos/vb.363765800431935/724792991026720/?type=2&theater |
| 03:39.22 | p3lim | Stanzilla: not from any of mine atleast |
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| 08:19.20 | _Kee | I am able to do the "chest" quest multiple times by realm hopping, every time I get 2000 (-100) nethershards and chest content (ex. 1 million ap). I bet it's considered exploit and I should not do it 3rd time once I found it by accidient, being in hop group from addon? |
| 08:21.38 | nevcairiel | doing the same rewarding thing multiple times through some fluke is definitely exploiting and people have been banned for that before (specifically chests, something in mop iirc) |
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| 08:24.27 | _Kee | this is what I though, thanks, left hop group and going end quest as indented. |
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| 09:01.27 | Shockah|Work | holy fuck Black Temple timewalking |
| 09:22.44 | karl_w_w | who ever decided that tabs should be at the top of the screen |
| 09:22.51 | karl_w_w | some people! |
| 09:33.06 | Gnarfoz | fits nicely with my taskbar at the top of the screen |
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| 10:13.53 | Andols | Nice :) |
| 10:18.31 | Andols | "Auction House Dance Studio - The long awaited Dance Studio is finally here" |
| 10:18.46 | Andols | Delayed 1 April? |
| 10:18.58 | nevcairiel | blizzard actually caleld that "Auction House Dance Party" |
| 10:19.03 | nevcairiel | not sure where mmo-c got the studio thing |
| 10:19.37 | nevcairiel | it will not be what people expect "dance studio" to mean =p |
| 10:20.56 | Andols | =p |
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| 12:50.08 | nevcairiel | Neat, a second challenge mission |
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| 14:00.58 | znf | kullervo, WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE? |
| 14:01.58 | kullervo | Yes |
| 14:02.40 | znf | kullervo, I've been trying all day to complete Uprising on Expert |
| 14:04.16 | Shockah|Work | play with friends insteadf |
| 14:07.48 | znf | Stanzilla is my only friend |
| 14:07.51 | znf | and he's sleeping |
| 14:09.37 | Thunder_Child | I'd say get more friends, but I would hate to subject anyone to you. |
| 14:11.37 | znf | I don't need more friends |
| 14:11.41 | znf | I need people who play overwatch |
| 14:11.48 | Alram | sorry |
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| 14:41.50 | PhatsoTGT | do any of you guys use GUID's somewhere? |
| 14:43.57 | nevcairiel | i recommend you just ask your question instead =p |
| 14:45.25 | PhatsoTGT | k. in wow's lua interpreter is using table references more efficient than "foreign-key"-esque relations? |
| 14:48.15 | nevcairiel | generally I would advice you to build whatever is more logical and easier for your code |
| 14:49.05 | nevcairiel | what is strictly more efficient depends on what exactly you are doing |
| 14:50.48 | PhatsoTGT | just to make sure i got that right. searching in tables with keys is faster than searching in pure value arrays right? |
| 14:51.08 | Semlar | what do you mean |
| 14:51.10 | nevcairiel | a single key lookup is definitely much faster then iterating through some table |
| 14:51.13 | nevcairiel | if thats what you mean |
| 14:52.04 | Semlar | lua also doesn't technically have "pure value arrays" |
| 14:52.12 | Semlar | it's just got tables |
| 14:52.24 | nevcairiel | well, a pure array table is kinda that |
| 14:52.28 | nevcairiel | but its an implementation detail |
| 14:52.36 | PhatsoTGT | the question is does the C code in the background itself just iterate over every element until it hits the right key |
| 14:52.43 | nevcairiel | no |
| 14:52.46 | nevcairiel | its a hash table |
| 14:52.48 | nevcairiel | its smart |
| 14:52.52 | Semlar | even if it did it would be faster than doing it in lua |
| 14:52.54 | PhatsoTGT | thats what i meant |
| 14:53.36 | Semlar | but mostly it would be a lot more awkward to write something that has to iterate over a table to look up a value |
| 14:53.46 | Semlar | if you disregard performance |
| 14:53.49 | nevcairiel | in the average best case hash table lookup is O(1), although with too big tables and bad hashes it can degrade to O(n), but shrug |
| 14:54.41 | nevcairiel | (O(1) means its constant time independent of the size of the data, and O(n) mean its a linear relation to the amount of data) |
| 14:55.10 | Semlar | what does this have to do with GUIDs |
| 14:55.23 | nevcairiel | maybe he wants to generate guids as keys for something |
| 14:55.30 | kullervo | Thunder_Child: that burn was fatal |
| 14:57.14 | PhatsoTGT | nevcariel you cant just use the Big O notation for the best average case notation :D |
| 14:57.21 | PhatsoTGT | thats just anarchy ;D |
| 14:57.45 | nevcairiel | if you design your hash properly thats the expected average from hash tables |
| 14:57.47 | Semlar | BIG O should be reserved for referring to giant robots |
| 14:57.53 | nevcairiel | everything else is a bad hash table |
| 14:57.55 | nevcairiel | so its fine |
| 14:58.01 | Thunder_Child | kullervo: Hmm? |
| 14:58.09 | kullervo | earlier |
| 14:58.19 | PhatsoTGT | Big O: O(f(n)) is Worst Case - Upper Bound |
| 14:58.39 | Thunder_Child | I got that, just not the fatal bit. |
| 14:58.45 | Thunder_Child | Unless I'm just showing my age now. |
| 14:58.48 | foxlit | "average best" is kind of objectionable, but it's not like I'm peer reviewing hour paper here. |
| 14:59.12 | PhatsoTGT | w(f(n)) is Lower Bound : Best Case |
| 14:59.12 | Semlar | it's showtime |
| 14:59.29 | foxlit | O(.) is a set of functions. |
| 15:00.13 | PhatsoTGT | wait... |
| 15:00.43 | PhatsoTGT | do other countries teach Big O as one size fits all? |
| 15:00.51 | PhatsoTGT | that would have saved so much time :D |
| 15:01.06 | foxlit | the best/worst case mapping is orthogonal to the function set definition |
| 15:01.46 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.16 | nevcairiel | any well designed hash lookup table should execute in O(1), but one has to keep in mind that if you do y our hash wrong for your use-case, it could e nd up O(n), but you really want to avoid that either way |
| 15:02.31 | nevcairiel | people and their pedantic brains |
| 15:05.18 | nevcairiel | (also, if you dont know how a hash table works but you do know the definition of Big O, you should probably go back to your math corner and leave us programmers alone :P) |
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| 15:06.27 | PhatsoTGT | i know how a hashtable works :D |
| 15:06.43 | PhatsoTGT | i just didnt know wowlua implements tables like that :D |
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| 15:15.52 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/2c0xqBe.gifv |
| 15:16.18 | karl_w_w | are you fucking kidding me |
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| 15:58.49 | bluipodcow | Lol curse to twitch client rename draaaaaama |
| 16:05.08 | Thunder_Child | Why are you bringing that drama here? |
| 16:05.44 | bluipodcow | Has there been drama in here over it ? |
| 16:16.10 | Ketho | I don't mind ordering my mountain dew n doritos from amazon ingame why is there no addon for that |
| 16:16.20 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 16:16.24 | bluipodcow | Silly keyhole |
| 16:16.33 | bluipodcow | O_o |
| 16:16.41 | bluipodcow | Epic autocorrect fail |
| 16:21.29 | Thunder_Child | No there has not. |
| 16:22.45 | bluipodcow | Ketho is now known as keyhole :P |
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| 16:23.45 | Ketho | sounds lewd |
| 16:24.04 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 16:25.56 | bluipodcow | Ketho is now known as gone |
| 16:30.19 | p3lim | hm |
| 16:30.31 | p3lim | with patterns, how do you set a whole word as optional? |
| 16:30.38 | p3lim | ? just sets the previous character |
| 16:34.05 | p3lim | this seems stupid: (m?i?l?l?i?o?n? ?) |
| 16:36.07 | Thunder_Child | wouldn't it be ?+ or * |
| 16:36.28 | Thunder_Child | Oh. |
| 16:36.50 | nevcairiel | a fixed word, apparently |
| 16:38.39 | nevcairiel | i might use two patterns |
| 16:38.56 | Thunder_Child | maybe '[%w]?', although I'm not sure what the bang is for. |
| 16:39.31 | Andols | bluipodcow: The only drama was that it had to rescan for addons and that no integrated Twitch Stream player inside it |
| 16:39.32 | nevcairiel | or math both into separate matches and check the word afterwards |
| 16:39.36 | nevcairiel | match* |
| 16:39.58 | Andols | More complaining not drama :P |
| 16:41.26 | bluipodcow | Whine whine whine. The new twitch client is the colour of |
| 16:41.27 | bluipodcow | Wine |
| 16:48.01 | bluipodcow | Hmmmm |
| 16:48.14 | bluipodcow | Is there d3 PTR a seperate down |
| 16:48.31 | bluipodcow | Load and install from d3 live ? |
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| 16:51.02 | nevcairiel | thats how ptrs always work |
| 16:53.59 | znf | bluipodcow, you have beta?! |
| 16:54.25 | bluipodcow | For d3 necros ? Not yet |
| 16:54.31 | znf | ok |
| 16:55.05 | bluipodcow | My name has been added to the list. So I'll eventually have it. |
| 16:58.06 | nevcairiel | add mine, kthx |
| 16:58.13 | znf | mine too |
| 16:58.49 | bluipodcow | It's on the Friends and family list. Invites going out in waves. |
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| 16:59.39 | znf | I've been trying to fix a server for the last 2 hours, but the ip-kvm is so slow that I get 1 update every 20 seconds |
| 17:00.01 | bluipodcow | Fun. |
| 17:38.14 | AcidWeb | It is only me or 7.2 decreased WoW performance a lot? |
| 17:42.39 | bshelden | "Three words: Black Temple Timewalking." (Yes, I see it discussed hours ago) |
| 17:42.59 | bshelden | BT was completely out of my guild's reach. So very looking forward to that. |
| 17:43.05 | bshelden | Time to go kill my boss a few times. |
| 17:44.02 | bshelden | And while it's certainly (very) unlikely, there's a non-zero chance I'll be able to xmog to the glaves... |
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| 19:32.13 | Fisker | gets here first and hugs Cairenn |
| 19:32.18 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 19:34.18 | Ressy | AcidWeb: I see CPU usage spiking more than previously.. Had to shut a bunch of stuff down last night for once. :( |
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| 21:41.30 | Ssateneth | Is there a function to determine if a specific item in your bags is 'locked', asin, its grey because it's currently locked by something, such as being an attachment in your send mail tab, or the current loot of a disenchanted item or openable item? |
| 21:41.55 | nevcairiel | There is, otherwise no bag would ever know to lock it :) |
| 21:42.45 | nevcairiel | GetContainerItemInfo(bag, slot) returns it as the third parameter |
| 21:43.02 | Ssateneth | yeah i JUST saw that, thanks |
| 21:43.16 | Ssateneth | Was looking for a specific function, didnt know it was a return value fo an existing one. thanks |
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| 22:06.19 | Gnarfoz | wowhead actually closes my Chrome dev console now |
| 22:06.23 | Gnarfoz | new levels of asshattery |
| 22:06.37 | Gnarfoz | (wonder how that's even possible) |
| 22:07.12 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 22:07.21 | nevcairiel | i'm logged in though with premium |
| 22:07.58 | Gnarfoz | same |
| 22:08.15 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/falcosaur-guide just keeps tumbling along |
| 22:08.29 | nevcairiel | (f'ing falcorsaurs) |
| 22:08.34 | nevcairiel | seems fine |
| 22:09.03 | Gnarfoz | if I enable 'preserve log' and reload, it somehow closes the debug panel ^^ |
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| 22:10.18 | Gnarfoz | they also still try loading fontawesome but are blocked by missing CORS rules |
| 22:10.45 | nebula | wowhead does not consent to having it's logs preserved |
| 22:14.18 | Gnarfoz | it finishes in under 3 seconds in incognito mode, so something is stuck somewhere, as usual |
| 22:14.51 | nevcairiel | i dont typically leave wowhead tabs open for days like some people seem to do, so i must just not run into all this fun |
| 22:14.52 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:16.24 | Gnarfoz | this happens upon initial load, so :| |
| 22:16.33 | Gnarfoz | also, thesilverhand.net is way worse |
| 22:16.44 | Gnarfoz | had 3 tabs of that open, each at 3.5 GiB |
| 22:16.48 | Gnarfoz | thanks |
| 22:16.57 | Gnarfoz | apparently some facebook integration plugin |
| 22:17.04 | Gnarfoz | useless crap |
| 22:17.14 | nevcairiel | that paladin website looks horrible |
| 22:18.01 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 22:18.09 | PhatsoTGT | website screams html5 sample template |
| 22:18.10 | Gnarfoz | but it's the same stuff that's on Discord without having to run Discord |
| 22:18.28 | nevcairiel | discord is just another website |
| 22:18.28 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:18.44 | Gnarfoz | it can be |
| 22:18.49 | Gnarfoz | but the desktop app apparently isn't |
| 22:18.56 | nevcairiel | never used it any other way! |
| 22:19.10 | Gnarfoz | you missed nothing of value |
| 22:21.31 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/xqBPJYs.png wut |
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| 23:46.29 | fewyn | man |
| 23:46.32 | fewyn | i missed flying |
| 23:46.43 | fewyn | glad to have it back |
