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| 01:11.23 | Stanzilla | foxlit: https://i.imgur.com/bpaFdT9.jpg what is that green square in my belt slice? |
| 01:12.55 | kullervo | Stanzilla: texture load failure |
| 01:13.17 | kullervo | always a green square |
| 01:13.32 | Stanzilla | yeah but I wonder what it should be |
| 01:13.35 | Stanzilla | it's a macro slice |
| 01:13.58 | kullervo | â(´ã¼ï½)â |
| 01:14.01 | Stanzilla | do macros have a special icon there usually |
| 01:17.10 | kullervo | binding text maybe |
| 01:17.20 | kullervo | or name |
| 01:19.15 | Thunder_Child | Seems like an overlay actually, it's textured. |
| 01:19.34 | ccox | Thunder_Child: yeah, apparently a lot of multinational companies are posting stuff on China/India/European time (aka: EARLY). |
| 01:28.54 | Semlar | it's probably because april 1st is on a saturday |
| 01:29.20 | Semlar | and they want to get things out before people go home for the weekend |
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| 02:46.25 | karl_w_w | http://0.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/38/36/b7f20b0be9f91765b070ce21aa74d20b.jpg |
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| 04:14.47 | Mr_Rabies | lmao |
| 04:14.55 | Mr_Rabies | some addon is playing CITIZENS OF DALARAN |
| 04:15.10 | Mr_Rabies | i don't know which because i'm addicted to addons but lmao |
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| 07:08.22 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 07:12.24 | ls- | o/ |
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| 08:15.05 | Andols2 | Citizens of dalaran is DBM |
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| 08:51.18 | Tomaz^ | Mr_Rabies: I get that too |
| 08:54.52 | VIad | jokes on DBM, I replaced my rhonin voice line files with empty sound files :d |
| 08:59.39 | VIad | also Ragnaros during Sons of Flame, can die from dots, then the sons keep going :P was immune/missed all dmg+dots when submerged, guess 7.2 nerf |
| 08:59.48 | VIad | but made it so I can sons of flame + swap pet in and have the sons up xD |
| 09:19.10 | VIad | in cathedral, last boss, tank shield, the shield doesn't turn until you RELEASE the right-button |
| 09:19.28 | VIad | if you keep holding down right-button to turn, the shield is far behind you, but if you release, it instantly turns where you faced |
| 09:19.32 | VIad | jesus christ |
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| 09:32.20 | nevcairiel | how do you even get to sons of flame |
| 09:32.22 | nevcairiel | are you so weak |
| 09:39.15 | VIad | CTA bag is rewarded when you queue with the bag up, regardless if its not in the popup when queue pops up 15 min alter :P |
| 09:39.16 | VIad | later* |
| 09:39.22 | VIad | thats good to know! :o |
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| 11:25.34 | VIad | isnt it 1 april? |
| 11:25.38 | VIad | I dont see any april fools stuff lol |
| 11:25.50 | VIad | nothing on the wow homepage either |
| 11:26.16 | Constie | Good one. |
| 11:28.46 | VIad | 500 server error is the only thing I found :p |
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| 12:40.42 | VIad | can we fix this in 7.3 or 8.x? http://i.imgur.com/oYoggt3.png :P |
| 12:43.30 | Constie | That kind of looks like you moved the bottom point of the frame but not the top. |
| 12:47.40 | nebula | there's an blank entry for ever player only loot item, like currency/quest stuff, it's been like that since personal loot started |
| 12:50.14 | Constie | I don't think I've ever seen it happen. |
| 12:51.15 | nebula | i've never seen it that bad in a 5man, but it raids it got pretty obnoxious |
| 12:59.02 | nevcairiel | sometimes it doesnt seem to reset properly |
| 12:59.08 | nevcairiel | and just keep the list longer |
| 12:59.19 | nebula | that would make sense |
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| 13:10.38 | _Kee | I am getting better gear from Sentinax farm than from Mythic NH, this is really skewed gearing system -_- |
| 13:11.55 | ls- | :D |
| 13:12.26 | ls- | from relinquished tokens? |
| 13:15.06 | nevcairiel | relinquished token roll 880 baseline, so you would need quite some luck |
| 13:16.58 | _Kee | It procs like crazy |
| 13:20.52 | ls- | I think my entire friendlist farms arcanocrystals :D |
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| 13:24.28 | znf | dear blizzard, I would like to remind you that: "fuck you for the cho'gall quest" |
| 13:28.22 | foxlit | I think you've found ways to whine about every game with other players on your team. |
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| 13:31.20 | znf | foxlit, nah |
| 13:31.31 | znf | it's just the nature of this quest |
| 13:31.44 | znf | people are doing it because they want to get cho'gall as a hero |
| 13:31.52 | nevcairiel | its true though, tomorrow you'll whine about something else |
| 13:32.01 | znf | and most of the time, if not every time, at least one of the players never played it, so he's clueless |
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| 13:46.01 | VIad | Constie: it grows like that out of screen, starts normal, then old items fade out, but it adds new items on bottom in a new slot and keeps growing |
| 13:46.41 | VIad | also it was like that for all my >m+10 because we get so many tokens for AP and it shows everyones tokens because its obviously important to see the 4 blue tokens each person gets :D |
| 13:47.09 | Constie | I think I actually don't see other people's loot in that frame at all, but I can't find an option for that. |
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| 13:53.02 | VIad | ls-: are you gonna also change the loot popup frame? because damn its buggy for me :D |
| 13:53.07 | VIad | would love you to make one x3 |
| 13:56.56 | ls- | hehe, probably nope, it's quite difficult to test/debug it, and iirc there are some blizz bugs related to loot system T_T |
| 13:57.08 | ls- | read something like that on xloot page long ago |
| 14:13.36 | PhatsoTGT | waIT |
| 14:13.48 | PhatsoTGT | TOC changes are now loaded on /reload ? |
| 14:14.19 | VIad | that would be counter productive, unless files arent being loaded ofc :p |
| 14:14.27 | VIad | like if you set a new file to load in the toc and /reload |
| 14:14.44 | PhatsoTGT | thats what i did |
| 14:17.49 | znf | lies |
| 14:17.52 | znf | and slander |
| 14:18.01 | znf | you sure you didn't put it in embeds.xml? |
| 14:18.14 | nebula | PhatsoTGT: the metadata fields aren't reparsed, just the file loading (which have to have already existed), it's been like that for a long time |
| 14:18.18 | VIad | also if you run the game, then make a new file and add it to the toc, I bet it wont load it :p |
| 14:19.21 | PhatsoTGT | i added a new XML file with new Lua files in it without them ever being there and it loaded all of them |
| 14:19.38 | nebula | that's interesting |
| 14:20.25 | nebula | the filesystem has always been set at load before |
| 14:20.34 | PhatsoTGT | ye thats what i meant |
| 14:21.09 | PhatsoTGT | maybe |
| 14:21.30 | PhatsoTGT | because the actual lua files were there on loading the Exe... in the addon folder |
| 14:21.38 | PhatsoTGT | maybe it prefetched the entire folder |
| 14:21.44 | nebula | well yes |
| 14:21.58 | nebula | that's what _I_ meant :p |
| 14:22.23 | nebula | it loads everything in AddOns |
| 14:22.37 | foxlit | in other words, nothing changed. |
| 14:23.33 | PhatsoTGT | i always was under the impression that any change to the TOC required a followup reload of the entire game |
| 14:24.00 | VIad | if you update your addon when the game is running, and the update contains a new lua file |
| 14:24.07 | VIad | it will sure, reload the toc and files that already were there at launch |
| 14:24.13 | VIad | but that new file will be missing and not loaded :P |
| 14:33.12 | PhatsoTGT | moving around files does require a reload right? |
| 14:33.23 | PhatsoTGT | putting them in other folders etc? |
| 14:38.15 | znf | y |
| 15:05.13 | PhatsoTGT | hey |
| 15:06.21 | PhatsoTGT | how much work is it to make a single lua file that operates on the basis of being loaded first to support a addon-scope namespace with functions a Library á la wow lua libraries? |
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| 15:29.33 | Semlar | you would just put it as the first file loaded from your toc file |
| 15:42.17 | PhatsoTGT | well thats what im doing right now |
| 15:42.50 | PhatsoTGT | but what i want is fit it into the LibStub ecosystem where i can resolve the library with LibStuv |
| 15:45.04 | nevcairiel | using libstub is easy, its literally like one line |
| 15:45.31 | nevcairiel | http://wow.gamepedia.com/LibStub there is basic library creation and usage examples here |
| 15:45.45 | PhatsoTGT | just generate a namespace with libstub and put the scope of the functions to that namespace? |
| 16:13.46 | znf | no april's fool from blizzard? |
| 16:14.54 | ls- | https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20753925964 |
| 16:22.18 | znf | Posting auctions of tradeskill materials in stack sizes of 1 now has a chance to delete a Legendary item. If you have no Legendary items, it will delete your character instead. |
| 16:22.21 | znf | yes, please |
| 16:52.17 | Mr_Rabies | New interface option: Use scientific notation for displaying Artifact Power costs for Artifact Traits. // Developer's note: You're going to need this. |
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| 16:56.37 | nevcairiel | this might even be helpful in 7.2 already =p |
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| 17:00.09 | ls- | :D |
| 17:03.08 | Ssateneth | i think curse app is spying on me and uploading personal files without my permission |
| 17:03.23 | Ssateneth | i just caught it capping out my upload speed for god knows what |
| 17:03.53 | Mr_Rabies | jeff bezos is just watching you sleep, don't worry about it |
| 17:05.57 | Mr_Rabies | he just wants to make sure you don't suffer from sleep apnea and have relevant product suggestions either way |
| 17:10.13 | nebula | Ssateneth: do you have addon sync enabled? |
| 17:10.25 | nebula | or whatever it's called |
| 17:10.35 | nebula | that or uploading the wowdb |
| 17:11.11 | nebula | s/the/for/ |
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| 20:15.22 | Gnarfoz | nice fearmongering, in any case |
| 20:16.17 | PhatsoTGT | ? |
| 20:16.56 | PhatsoTGT | oh that |
| 20:17.36 | Gnarfoz | ~framexml |
| 20:17.36 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on https://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
| 20:19.49 | PhatsoTGT | who uses ~ as an operator-prefix? |
| 20:20.01 | Gnarfoz | infobot/purl |
| 20:20.16 | PhatsoTGT | who is responsible |
| 20:20.33 | PhatsoTGT | im about to post angry pictures of keyboard layouts |
| 20:21.50 | Thunder_Child | How is a keyboard layout an angry picture? |
| 20:21.58 | Gnarfoz | that'd be Tim Riker btw |
| 20:22.31 | Gnarfoz | lolwut, Oculus bought bzflag? |
| 20:22.56 | PhatsoTGT | wait |
| 20:23.06 | PhatsoTGT | purl: what's up? |
| 20:23.06 | purl | Up is the direction away from the central point of gravity. |
| 20:23.16 | PhatsoTGT | dumb bot |
| 20:23.42 | PhatsoTGT | dumb purl |
| 20:23.45 | Gnarfoz | not really |
| 20:23.50 | Gnarfoz | also, what's wrong with you |
| 20:23.53 | PhatsoTGT | i feel betrayed |
| 20:24.13 | Gnarfoz | you've been around for a while, how can you be surprised by purl or her mannerisms |
| 20:24.18 | PhatsoTGT | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infobot |
| 20:24.22 | PhatsoTGT | see examples |
| 20:24.58 | PhatsoTGT | oh |
| 20:25.00 | PhatsoTGT | i forgot to teach him :D |
| 20:25.06 | PhatsoTGT | dumb me |
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| 20:25.12 | Gnarfoz | stupid human, as it were |
| 20:25.13 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:26.12 | PhatsoTGT | but back to it. if you (as in someone) make a bot with message control |
| 20:26.29 | PhatsoTGT | and use prefixes outside of common keyboard layouts, you are the devil |
| 20:26.41 | Gnarfoz | ~ is anythin gbut "outside of common layouts" |
| 20:26.43 | nevcairiel | ~ isnt that hard of a key |
| 20:27.00 | Gnarfoz | it's literally shift-`, which is a regular non-modified key on US layout |
| 20:27.28 | Gnarfoz | (and to the left of "1", so it's really easy to reach, objectively the same as !) |
| 20:27.35 | Gnarfoz | ~_~ |
| 20:27.35 | purl | STOP THAT! |
| 20:27.37 | Gnarfoz | :) |
| 20:27.47 | PhatsoTGT | its RIGHT-ALT + + on the german layout |
| 20:27.52 | Gnarfoz | I know |
| 20:27.57 | nevcairiel | its a one modifier key |
| 20:28.01 | nevcairiel | not any worse then / |
| 20:28.02 | Gnarfoz | and DE layout is terrible |
| 20:28.17 | nevcairiel | in fact, / requires both hands, ~ can be typed with one hand! |
| 20:28.25 | Gnarfoz | DE is abysmal for any computing use but text input |
| 20:28.39 | Gnarfoz | I have à where ~ is on DE, I think |
| 20:28.43 | Gnarfoz | custom layouts ftw |
| 20:28.48 | PhatsoTGT | thats why you use . or ! or / because none of those require you to use two fingers on your right hand |
| 20:28.52 | nevcairiel | US isnt any better for that matter, all those layouts were designed for conflict-free typing on typewritters, not for best use by humans =p |
| 20:29.16 | PhatsoTGT | Ã is Shift + (the button right next to 0) |
| 20:29.18 | Gnarfoz | US is miles ahead regarding "commonly" used special characters |
| 20:29.36 | nevcairiel | I find it easier to type ~ with one hand and two fingers then using both hands for / |
| 20:29.36 | Gnarfoz | Ã is a modifier-free key on DE, last I checked? |
| 20:29.45 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 20:29.50 | nevcairiel | its next to 0 |
| 20:29.53 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 20:30.00 | nevcairiel | ? is shift-Ã |
| 20:30.04 | PhatsoTGT | oh yeah |
| 20:30.06 | PhatsoTGT | ^^ |
| 20:30.08 | PhatsoTGT | lol |
| 20:30.27 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I know why I made my own US/DE hybrid layout years ago |
| 20:30.38 | PhatsoTGT | british people teaching me my own countries keyboard layout lol |
| 20:30.44 | nevcairiel | we're both german |
| 20:30.48 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
| 20:30.48 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:31.00 | Gnarfoz | plot twist |
| 20:31.02 | Gnarfoz | etc |
| 20:31.05 | PhatsoTGT | oh. thats the freenode server |
| 20:31.10 | PhatsoTGT | ROFL |
| 20:31.20 | nevcairiel | the german layout doesnt really bother me much, learning something else would be worse |
| 20:31.38 | nevcairiel | also i like the <> key we have |
| 20:31.39 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 20:31.48 | PhatsoTGT | oh where is it on the US Map ? |
| 20:31.52 | nevcairiel | who needs giant shift keys |
| 20:32.17 | Gnarfoz | well, I adapted to http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/29a25d8b3df64a3cf4e09394fe148d68 on my Planck, so I guess I'm a bit outside of what's commonly accepted :D |
| 20:32.36 | PhatsoTGT | wait |
| 20:32.37 | PhatsoTGT | gists |
| 20:32.43 | Gnarfoz | I hate the fact that < and > are on the same key on DE |
| 20:32.45 | PhatsoTGT | nice |
| 20:32.53 | nevcairiel | The US layout has a smaller enter key, so the extra button moved over that |
| 20:33.01 | nevcairiel | but its not <> on there |
| 20:33.04 | Gnarfoz | the extra key is nice, but < on shift-, and > on shift-. makes much more sense |
| 20:33.07 | PhatsoTGT | whats on your capslock key? |
| 20:33.10 | nevcairiel | the special chars are all jumbled |
| 20:33.40 | Gnarfoz | caps lock is on my caps lock, on my keyboards that have that key (which is all of them except said Planck) |
| 20:33.59 | nevcairiel | you and your tiny keyboards |
| 20:34.07 | Gnarfoz | never saw the need to switch that with anything, even though I've never used caps lock for something productive in my life |
| 20:34.16 | nevcairiel | yeah caps lock is kind of a dead key |
| 20:34.23 | nevcairiel | and so prominent as well |
| 20:34.27 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: you're right, I should get the Atomic, which is the Planck but with more rows! :D |
| 20:34.29 | nevcairiel | another hold over from typewriters |
| 20:34.46 | Gnarfoz | (or preonic? hm) |
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| 20:34.56 | PhatsoTGT | jesus |
| 20:35.00 | nevcairiel | go talk to the other keyboard nerds about the keyboard things :p |
| 20:35.03 | PhatsoTGT | that bottom row is atrocious |
| 20:35.13 | Gnarfoz | Phixion: m8 |
| 20:35.49 | PhatsoTGT | your dirKeys look like electro-engineering hiroglyphs |
| 20:36.36 | Gnarfoz | possibly. the actual keys are blank anyway |
| 20:36.42 | Gnarfoz | it's just a cheat sheet |
| 20:36.55 | Gnarfoz | (and firmware programming helper, I guess) |
| 20:39.15 | PhatsoTGT | does it export firmware ? |
| 20:39.37 | PhatsoTGT | those custom keyboard run with some kind of standard PCB driver right? |
| 20:41.49 | Gnarfoz | there's a couple of them, but most of them use one of them, yeah |
| 20:42.10 | Gnarfoz | and no, that website can't export to a format I can use to flash that keyboard |
| 20:42.14 | Gnarfoz | (at least to my knowledge) |
| 20:45.04 | mukunda | last time i checked BNSendWhisper calls at the same time can end up out of order on the receiving end, can that also happen with BNSendGameData? |
| 20:48.32 | Gnarfoz | btw, I do have regular sized keyboards, too, nevcairiel - doesn't mean they're less crazy http://i.imgur.com/t1qGHIC.jpg |
| 20:48.57 | nevcairiel | someone spilled yoghurt gummys on your keyboard |
| 20:49.30 | Gnarfoz | nom nom |
| 20:49.50 | Gnarfoz | (there are keycaps that look a lot more like something edible ^^) |
| 20:50.37 | nevcairiel | http://fddb.info/static/db/400/310/9EGZKIQT2H8PB65W40UAYOK6_999x999.jpg |
| 20:50.40 | nevcairiel | totally looks like those! |
| 20:51.11 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/78o2EZ0.jpg these look like those |
| 20:51.21 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 20:51.31 | Gnarfoz | I don't have any of those, though :( |
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| 21:19.48 | Zeldo | Ssateneth: da fuck are you talking about |
| 21:22.30 | Gnarfoz | muh privacy |
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| 21:42.03 | PhatsoTGT | hey nevcairiel |
| 21:42.26 | PhatsoTGT | this @Class file @name AceAddon-3.0.lua stuff at the end |
| 21:42.30 | PhatsoTGT | whats that for? |
| 21:44.46 | Shockah | so um yeah. that happened http://imgur.com/a/RPuZ2 |
| 22:02.14 | PhatsoTGT | uhh |
| 22:02.43 | PhatsoTGT | does anyone have a list of lua metatable events that actually work with wow'S lua ? |
| 22:04.57 | Stanzilla | is Zeldo stealing my privacy again? |
| 22:06.11 | nebula | PhatsoTGT: just index newindex and metatable, i don't think they added the arith or comparison ones |
| 22:08.05 | PhatsoTGT | __add works |
| 22:09.08 | nebula | well you can try http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.8 then |
| 22:09.50 | PhatsoTGT | well len doesnt |
| 22:09.56 | PhatsoTGT | thats my point |
| 22:10.14 | PhatsoTGT | some forums say __len is 5.2 but who knows with this manual saying its 5.1 |
| 22:10.21 | foxlit | your point is somewhat lessened by your inability to read. |
| 22:11.45 | PhatsoTGT | me? |
| 22:11.47 | nebula | looking at 5.0, i think len and mod may be the only difference |
| 22:11.47 | foxlit | __len doesn't work on table objects in 5.1, which is clearly documented in the section of the manual nebula linked. |
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| 22:12.54 | PhatsoTGT | where? |
| 22:13.13 | foxlit | see the code in the ' "len": the # operation. ' bullet. |
| 22:14.41 | PhatsoTGT | >your point is somewhat lessened by your inability to read |
| 22:15.17 | nebula | i didn't even notice that :p i just remember reading that wow lua is mostly 5.0 with some bits on 5.1 patched it |
| 22:15.41 | nebula | PhatsoTGT: it'll only do #table, not lookup the metamethod for it |
| 22:15.49 | PhatsoTGT | yeah i know |
| 22:15.54 | PhatsoTGT | by now |
| 22:16.12 | PhatsoTGT | but that was by no stretch of the imagination obvious |
| 22:18.50 | foxlit | nebula: the other way around might be better; 5.1 with some 5.0 bits preserved. :) |
| 22:19.06 | Bart39 | anyone else seeing issues with C_TradeSkillUI.GetRecipeNumItemsProduced() not returning the correct results in 7.2 ? |
| 22:24.09 | foxlit | PhatsoTGT: dunno, I think the manual makes it pretty obvious. Of course, you'd actually have to read it, and not jump to a "wow must be special!" conclusion whenever your code doesn't do what you expect. |
| 22:25.43 | PhatsoTGT | k. |
| 22:44.55 | PhatsoTGT | https://github.com/PhatsoTheGhostlyTauren/LibYACI feel free to have a look (mostly Readme. the rest is the regular YACI) |
| 22:45.18 | PhatsoTGT | as in everyone |
| 22:48.14 | Stanzilla | foxlit: https://i.imgur.com/bpaFdT9.jpg what is that green square in my belt slice? |
| 22:49.29 | foxlit | equipped item |
| 22:49.39 | Stanzilla | ok |
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