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| 00:14.04 | znf | why are there /so/ many nomis? |
| 00:16.23 | _Kee | we were about to kill nomi 2nd time, and after like 15m fight, at ~10% he despawned (without moving away), then huge lag began again |
| 00:17.38 | znf | there's like 10 of them now? |
| 00:17.38 | _Kee | Maybe it's his enrage ability: HUGE LAG? :) |
| 00:17.47 | znf | disconnect |
| 00:18.35 | _Kee | dc too, in same moment |
| 00:18.59 | znf | how did I never see this tip? http://i.imgur.com/69dadYv.png |
| 00:23.10 | znf | I just run around doing VT on everything |
| 00:23.12 | znf | keeps me alive forever |
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| 00:24.37 | _Kee | next dc |
| 00:24.47 | _Kee | but Killed Toymaker <3 |
| 00:25.36 | _Kee | Some day I'll be rich enough to buy him cool expensive toy |
| 00:31.22 | znf | well they just spaned 20 nomis |
| 00:35.09 | Ketho | http://i.imgur.com/CDDyOIs.jpg |
| 00:36.17 | znf | why don't I see zorbix?! |
| 00:39.14 | znf | meh, they're still sharing dalaran |
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| 01:01.15 | znf | well, that was boring |
| 01:01.26 | znf | fighting a target dummy for 10 minutes |
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| 01:14.49 | _Kee | We can flyyyyyyyyy <3 |
| 01:17.23 | Ketho | there were probably different shards, on livestreams i saw a lot more and different ppl |
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| 01:25.55 | _Kee | It was cool anyway :) |
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| 05:10.18 | mckenziemc | hugs Cairenn. |
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| 07:29.34 | Stanzilla | 28/36 hype https://i.imgur.com/n26Shym.png |
| 07:53.35 | tz_ | Varuna and Tizara are around the wrong way |
| 08:01.22 | Stanzilla | yeah, it looked weird the other way around even though the alphabet disagrees :D |
| 08:04.27 | tz_ | (I have no idea why I picked that up) |
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| 10:15.09 | znf | Why russians. Why? |
| 10:15.23 | znf | Can I have a checkmark for "do not group up with russians, wait 10 minutes for match making"? |
| 10:17.40 | [TOM_RUS] | lol someone got owned |
| 10:19.25 | znf | nah |
| 10:19.26 | znf | we won |
| 10:19.30 | znf | but I can't understand shit they're saying |
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| 12:16.49 | Andols | Write back in romanian and you are even :P |
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| 13:23.14 | p3lim | anyone got encounterjournal db files in a spreadsheet by any chance |
| 13:46.20 | ls- | jic anyone else needs it https://www.townlong-yak.com/wdbc/#f:JournalEncounterCreature.dbc :p |
| 13:54.11 | p3lim | TheDanW: Why do certain bosses have multiple encounterIDs for the EncounterJournal? Galakras (MoP) and Elisande has two IDs, and only one of them work based on the client region |
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| 14:02.17 | p3lim | among a few others, those are the only ones I found so far |
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| 15:08.06 | Funkeh` | ls-, just a tad out of date |
| 15:08.28 | ls- | Funkeh`: ikr :p we already solved that issue.. |
| 15:09.01 | Funkeh` | locally I guess? |
| 15:09.27 | ls- | yeah |
| 15:48.32 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/rV0IBNN.gifv |
| 15:48.34 | karl_w_w | ok |
| 15:54.26 | pompy | old! |
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| 16:51.02 | Simca_ | p3lim: Journal*.db2 files in csv form - http://www.mediafire.com/file/li2b7q2ttjkeub3/JournalEncounter23708.zip |
| 16:51.16 | p3lim | Simca_: I got some, but thanks :) |
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| 17:50.33 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/cDSmW6H.png |
| 17:50.34 | znf | this is new |
| 17:50.37 | znf | 4 duplicates in a box |
| 18:00.43 | karl_w_w | man I hope ME Andromeda is good |
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| 18:35.39 | znf | me too |
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| 19:12.24 | znf | kullervo, why do you sometimes get/lose so few points in competitive? |
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| 19:13.48 | Gnarfoz | because you're just marginally better than the scrubs you defeated? just a thought |
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| 19:25.59 | kullervo | znf: rating difference between you and your team, and the opponents, and your statistical contributions |
| 19:27.26 | Gnarfoz | so, what I said |
| 19:27.27 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:30.54 | kullervo | I said it in more technical terms |
| 19:32.20 | znf | sounds complicated |
| 19:33.05 | kullervo | it is |
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| 20:31.55 | mukunda | anyone know of potential side effects if you go over the soft cap with RegisterAddonMessagePrefix? |
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| 20:32.39 | Narwhaal | game crashes, a singularity comes into existance, and then your mom is born |
| 20:32.43 | Narwhaal | #getrekt |
| 20:37.27 | mukunda | give me a reason to not approve of something that uses 80 prefixes :) |
| 20:38.00 | Semlar | why would you need to register more than one prefix |
| 20:38.05 | Narwhaal | [22:32:39] <Narwhaal> game crashes, a singularity comes into existance, and then your mom is born |
| 20:38.14 | Narwhaal | Semlar makes a compelling argument as well |
| 20:38.17 | Narwhaal | mine still wins |
| 20:38.53 | mukunda | im dealing with a very messy addon that im cleaning up, and i just know that the author is gonna be like "whats wrong with it" |
| 20:38.58 | Semlar | you generally just make one prefix for your addon to transmit on |
| 20:39.06 | Narwhaal | is it skada? |
| 20:39.13 | mukunda | private addon |
| 20:39.14 | Narwhaal | or dbm |
| 20:39.19 | Narwhaal | ok, skada it is |
| 20:39.27 | mukunda | ;( is skada bad? |
| 20:39.30 | Narwhaal | yep0 |
| 20:39.34 | mukunda | dang |
| 20:39.45 | Narwhaal | only good thing is backend |
| 20:39.48 | Narwhaal | and even that's terrible |
| 20:39.59 | mukunda | skada seems like the most lightweight of the bunch |
| 20:40.21 | Narwhaal | that's why it's so bad |
| 20:40.42 | Semlar | skada is not what i would call light weight |
| 20:40.54 | mukunda | heh |
| 20:41.02 | mukunda | better than recount tho right? :) |
| 20:41.10 | Narwhaal | yep |
| 20:41.14 | Narwhaal | well no |
| 20:41.17 | Narwhaal | not really |
| 20:41.24 | Narwhaal | both are equally as bad |
| 20:41.38 | Narwhaal | I have a combination of 3 |
| 20:41.45 | Narwhaal | tinydps, skada and recount |
| 20:41.47 | mukunda | recount would tank my fps in a raid, esp when we had bm hunters with stampede |
| 20:42.07 | Narwhaal | mukunda: I used recount on a PC with 2gb RAM and a shitty GPU |
| 20:42.11 | Narwhaal | 25 man raids |
| 20:42.14 | Narwhaal | no problem |
| 20:42.29 | Narwhaal | anyway I use tDPS UI with recount and skada backend |
| 20:42.43 | Narwhaal | "calculations" they call it |
| 20:43.03 | mukunda | im losing sleep over this now |
| 20:43.13 | Narwhaal | why |
| 20:43.33 | mukunda | i need skada in my life |
| 20:43.57 | Narwhaal | just do what I done |
| 20:44.02 | Narwhaal | strip off the bad shit |
| 20:44.08 | Narwhaal | implement thet gooooood shit |
| 20:44.18 | Narwhaal | my UI (elvui) |
| 20:44.30 | Narwhaal | I modified specifically with skada backend in mind |
| 20:44.41 | Narwhaal | ended up removing elvui because it deminished into a pile of shit |
| 20:44.48 | Narwhaal | but you get the picture |
| 20:44.52 | mukunda | heh |
| 20:45.06 | Narwhaal | I'm working on a module-based UI actually |
| 20:45.07 | mukunda | i usually go with not using any package |
| 20:45.11 | Narwhaal | everything is plug-and-play |
| 20:45.21 | Narwhaal | backends for DPS meter for example |
| 20:45.26 | Narwhaal | DPS meter front-end |
| 20:45.48 | Narwhaal | wanna tank your FPS in memory ? Recount! wanna blow your CPU ? skada! |
| 20:46.17 | mukunda | combat log events always scare me |
| 20:46.29 | mukunda | i feel like a lot of things would benefit with a simple layer underneath them thats shared |
| 20:46.40 | Narwhaal | oh that's the beauty of my system too |
| 20:47.05 | mukunda | whenever i make a combat log event weakaura im thinking "oh no im reparsing this again" |
| 20:47.05 | Narwhaal | instead of parsing all the players in 40 yards or w/e on your own system it syncs across the entire raid |
| 20:47.10 | Narwhaal | with hidden messages |
| 20:47.36 | Gnarfoz | uhrgh |
| 20:47.39 | Narwhaal | I'm looking at Skada's front end rn and I see "L["Average hit:"]" |
| 20:47.48 | Narwhaal | what the fuck sort of translation module does that |
| 20:47.54 | Gnarfoz | you seem to be lacking historical knowledge |
| 20:48.07 | Narwhaal | who me ? |
| 20:48.21 | Gnarfoz | why would you go *back* to the terribleness that is syncing combat data over addon messages |
| 20:48.25 | mukunda | wh-whats wrong with that? ;d |
| 20:48.32 | Narwhaal | Gnarfoz: it works a lot better since 6.0 |
| 20:48.33 | mukunda | the translations thing |
| 20:48.40 | Narwhaal | mukunda: it's useless |
| 20:48.44 | Narwhaal | next question |
| 20:49.04 | Narwhaal | Gnarfoz: at least my implementation |
| 20:49.07 | Gnarfoz | why would L["Average hit:"] be "useless"? |
| 20:49.15 | Narwhaal | l.hit_avg |
| 20:49.17 | Narwhaal | would be much better |
| 20:49.21 | Gnarfoz | no, not really. |
| 20:49.23 | Narwhaal | yes really |
| 20:49.38 | Semlar | not really |
| 20:49.40 | Funkeh` | that's oddly obsessive |
| 20:49.41 | Gnarfoz | ok, mr. combatlog sync via addon messages |
| 20:49.45 | Narwhaal | if skada's people are too shit to even translate correctly |
| 20:49.50 | mukunda | i use a metatable, so youre sharing the actual text as translation keys |
| 20:49.56 | Narwhaal | mukunda: same |
| 20:50.00 | Narwhaal | but still |
| 20:50.05 | Gnarfoz | "skada's people" |
| 20:50.18 | Narwhaal | well they can't be called developers can they |
| 20:50.25 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 20:50.26 | Narwhaal | hardly-teens |
| 20:50.32 | Semlar | L["Average hit:"] is providing a default to fall back on if there is no entry in the language file |
| 20:50.41 | Gnarfoz | you're just slightly full of yourself, arent' you |
| 20:51.03 | Narwhaal | Semlar: that's the shittiest idea I've ever heard of |
| 20:51.16 | nevcairiel | its also much easier to develop, you can just write those into the places where you want to use it, a nd then use a script to gather all localization keys out of the files |
| 20:51.20 | Narwhaal | why would you use it if there were no entry |
| 20:51.25 | Funkeh` | of the millions of things to criticize shit developers for, I've never though of the choice of table storage being one of them |
| 20:51.28 | nevcairiel | because translators are lazy |
| 20:51.33 | mukunda | because usually english is the default |
| 20:51.35 | nevcairiel | and not every language is magically 100% complete |
| 20:51.42 | mukunda | and its a lot more readable in the code |
| 20:51.43 | Gnarfoz | (also, I was pointing out that most addons are single person operations) |
| 20:52.30 | Gnarfoz | as to why you would think syncing combat log messages makes sense... CLEU is "all the client gets" and you don't have control over that |
| 20:52.31 | Narwhaal | nevcairiel: but is it so hard to have lang/defaults.lua: get = f(..) return {avg_hit = "Average Hit: "} end |
| 20:52.32 | Narwhaal | ? |
| 20:52.33 | nevcairiel | in any case, that kind of localization setup is used by a huge portion of addons, if you feel like insulting everyone of them, have fun =p |
| 20:52.55 | nevcairiel | and how exactly is such code then any better? =p |
| 20:53.19 | Narwhaal | because you're actually defining the defaults jesus christ |
| 20:53.32 | Semlar | what does that even mean |
| 20:53.48 | Narwhaal | wow you're all shite |
| 20:53.56 | nevcairiel | so are we, we define L["text"] as a translatable string, it saves us some fabricated key, you get the default right there |
| 20:54.04 | Gnarfoz | why exactly would you think it's somehow better to have to maintain two strings (avg_hit and "Average Hit: ") when you can just use the actual text as the table key and be done with it? |
| 20:54.08 | Narwhaal | and I thought I was a shite developer making a object-oriented chained Ace library |
| 20:54.20 | nevcairiel | well you clearly are |
| 20:54.30 | nevcairiel | for one you cant tolerate anyones elses opinion, ap parently |
| 20:54.36 | Semlar | you really don't know who you're talking to |
| 20:54.39 | Narwhaal | I can tolerate it |
| 20:54.41 | mukunda | when it comes down to it, the easier method in code, even though it might be a little less memory efficient, is usually the way to go imo |
| 20:54.48 | Narwhaal | I just don't give a shit |
| 20:55.04 | Narwhaal | see ? mukunda gets it |
| 20:55.14 | Gnarfoz | except doing things twice instead of once is not "the easier method" |
| 20:55.17 | Narwhaal | easier to make translation files too anyway |
| 20:55.18 | Semlar | but your example is not better |
| 20:55.28 | nevcairiel | our translation files are auto-generated :D |
| 20:55.34 | mukunda | i ah ... am saying that the easier method is the single translation key |
| 20:55.49 | Narwhaal | how the fuck is that easier |
| 20:55.59 | Gnarfoz | how the fuck is it not? :P |
| 20:56.08 | Narwhaal | it's like saying it's better to butter bread with a hunting rifle than a knife |
| 20:56.20 | Gnarfoz | text + translation vs. variablename+"english"+translation |
| 20:56.54 | Gnarfoz | anyway, it's more of a style thing, since both work fine; neither is insane :P |
| 20:56.55 | Narwhaal | ?? |
| 20:57.00 | mukunda | because a) you dont need to put it in the translations file if youre lazy, b) you can easily see what parts of the code correspond to what text on screen, and c) maybe somethign else |
| 20:57.01 | Narwhaal | l.avg_hit |
| 20:57.09 | Narwhaal | is set by language library |
| 20:57.22 | Narwhaal | mukunda: I'm lazy and even I think it's shitty code |
| 20:57.34 | mukunda | if youre writing new stuff, you dont need to think up keys |
| 20:57.46 | Gnarfoz | you can think what you want, sure, that doesn't make it a common opinion. :P |
| 20:57.50 | Narwhaal | wanna see shitty code ? https://github.com/gear4s/acez |
| 20:58.04 | nevcairiel | if you write new strings, you need to at least edit two files |
| 20:58.09 | Narwhaal | that's what shitty code looks like |
| 20:58.17 | Narwhaal | and it's better than this translation crap |
| 20:58.21 | nevcairiel | i only edit the file i'm currently working in |
| 20:58.24 | nevcairiel | how is that not easier |
| 20:58.30 | Narwhaal | lazier, not easier |
| 20:58.46 | nevcairiel | thats the same thing |
| 20:58.51 | mukunda | i always see as things without "ties" to other things to be easier |
| 20:58.52 | Narwhaal | no it's not |
| 20:58.53 | nevcairiel | ~lazyness |
| 20:58.59 | nevcairiel | where is purl |
| 20:58.59 | Gnarfoz | ~laziness |
| 20:58.59 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 20:59.02 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 20:59.11 | Narwhaal | avg_hit = "Average Hit:" ~= ["Average Hit:"] = "...." |
| 20:59.33 | mukunda | like, generally when you have a thing to do that you might repeat, you want to do it in one step |
| 20:59.46 | Semlar | how is adding another level of abstraction which introduces the possibility of NOT having a default value set, a better way to write things |
| 21:00.09 | nevcairiel | i dont think he even named any reasons other then insulting every developer that uses it =p |
| 21:00.14 | Semlar | feel free to do it that way, but don't act like it's somehow a huge improvement |
| 21:00.26 | Gnarfoz | yuuuge gainz? |
| 21:00.27 | Narwhaal | never said it's a huge improvement |
| 21:00.36 | Narwhaal | just saying it would be nice to be able to do it like that |
| 21:00.45 | Narwhaal | jesus christ |
| 21:01.04 | Gnarfoz | you're able to do it like that |
| 21:01.29 | mukunda | i used to write things in asm for huge gains |
| 21:01.30 | mukunda | :D |
| 21:01.31 | Gnarfoz | but you did say "what the fuck translation module does it like that" and that it's "useless" and that l.avg_hit would be "much better" |
| 21:01.35 | mukunda | im a changed person |
| 21:01.55 | Narwhaal | Gnarfoz: I have *never* seen a module that does this shit in 20 years of programming |
| 21:02.08 | Semlar | how much of that was spent writing warcraft addons |
| 21:02.15 | nevcairiel | nothing, apparently |
| 21:02.16 | Narwhaal | 7 or so |
| 21:02.18 | nevcairiel | otherwise he would have |
| 21:02.23 | mukunda | in lua though? its more of a lua convenience imo |
| 21:02.27 | nevcairiel | because its extremely common |
| 21:02.42 | Narwhaal | the addons I write don't use that shit |
| 21:02.48 | mukunda | with lua metatables |
| 21:02.53 | Gnarfoz | clearly, because you write them. |
| 21:02.56 | nevcairiel | great, you only look at your own addons =p |
| 21:02.57 | Narwhaal | mukunda: Python for me |
| 21:03.01 | Narwhaal | nevcairiel: nope |
| 21:03.07 | Narwhaal | I have interpreter for it |
| 21:03.16 | Narwhaal | I've known about it for a long time |
| 21:03.20 | mukunda | anotehr thing is its extremely easy to add over non localized code |
| 21:03.23 | mukunda | just wrap the strings |
| 21:03.38 | mukunda | and... thats generally the way people go about it :) |
| 21:03.43 | mukunda | dont worry about localization until later lol |
| 21:03.48 | Semlar | no offense, but for someone who claims to have 20 years of programming experience you sound like a teenager |
| 21:04.10 | Narwhaal | well sorry that you guys pushed a few buttons but fucking hell how can this be acceptable |
| 21:04.14 | Semlar | why are you even getting upset over this |
| 21:04.23 | Semlar | there are different ways to do things |
| 21:04.35 | Gnarfoz | if those 7 years are now-7, then you must not have been looking at any addon using AceLocale (Ace3 or Ace2 or even Rock), all of which predate "now-7 years", IIRC) |
| 21:04.36 | Narwhaal | there's one correct way though |
| 21:04.38 | nevcairiel | arrogant people get mad at the world for not doing it their way |
| 21:04.40 | nevcairiel | its not news |
| 21:04.43 | nevcairiel | even if they are wrong |
| 21:04.50 | Gnarfoz | there's no single correct way |
| 21:04.51 | Narwhaal | Semlar: I use Ace daily almost |
| 21:04.58 | Narwhaal | but I don't use locale |
| 21:05.12 | Gnarfoz | ~TIMTOWDI |
| 21:05.18 | Narwhaal | Gnarfoz: I meant correct as in efficient |
| 21:05.21 | Gnarfoz | no? ok. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TIMTOWDI |
| 21:05.42 | Gnarfoz | purl, TIMTOWDI is There's more than one way to do it |
| 21:05.42 | purl | okay, Gnarfoz |
| 21:05.54 | Funkeh` | I think I stoop into a 2007 timemachine when using ace meant your addon was better |
| 21:06.11 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: that's ace |
| 21:06.13 | Narwhaal | I only use AceGUI |
| 21:06.36 | Funkeh` | acegui is idd the most useful part |
| 21:06.48 | Narwhaal | they sanest part as well |
| 21:06.52 | Narwhaal | and AceDB |
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| 21:06.59 | Narwhaal | but I have my own wrapper for that |
| 21:07.03 | Narwhaal | custom types and all |
| 21:07.17 | Gnarfoz | frameworks like Ace have varying levels of "useful" depending on several things, including your skill level as a programmer |
| 21:07.39 | Narwhaal | yea .. if you're bad you use most of it and make your addon slow |
| 21:07.45 | Gnarfoz | or knowledge of what exactyl is possible using WoW's addon framework |
| 21:07.55 | Narwhaal | but if you're good you still use most of it but only when you absolutely need it |
| 21:07.58 | Narwhaal | need to * |
| 21:08.08 | Gnarfoz | doubtful it'll make it slower than homebrewing some crap just because |
| 21:08.30 | Narwhaal | if you think of it like that |
| 21:08.35 | Narwhaal | *everything* is homebrewed |
| 21:08.41 | Gnarfoz | well done |
| 21:09.01 | Narwhaal | therefore everything is crap |
| 21:09.43 | Narwhaal | Gnarfoz: now I know you work of ace nevcairiel but seriously it needs improvement (and I would have been willing to help if you were a little nicer) |
| 21:10.07 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt want your help with your attitude |
| 21:10.08 | Funkeh` | please, bless him with your skill |
| 21:10.10 | Gnarfoz | that sentence hit a tree on the way somewhere |
| 21:11.21 | Narwhaal | acetimer shouldn't plunge my frames, hook shouldn't either and event just eats my CPU |
| 21:11.53 | Gnarfoz | is said CPU a 386 |
| 21:12.07 | Narwhaal | Xeon |
| 21:12.17 | Narwhaal | 2 of them actually |
| 21:12.42 | mukunda | whaa? ive looked at acetimer its super simple |
| 21:13.01 | Gnarfoz | 2 single-core Xeons, then |
| 21:13.11 | Narwhaal | yep but it's super massive |
| 21:13.24 | Narwhaal | last time I saw a single-core xeon .. |
| 21:13.29 | Narwhaal | idk must have been 20 or so |
| 21:13.35 | Gnarfoz | yeah, a single core Xeon is about the same physical size as a 24 core Xeon |
| 21:13.57 | Narwhaal | waow |
| 21:13.58 | Narwhaal | rly |
| 21:14.05 | Gnarfoz | you just said it's super massive ;) |
| 21:14.25 | Narwhaal | I was talking about acetimer |
| 21:14.46 | Gnarfoz | really! how could I have missed that :> |
| 21:15.03 | Narwhaal | ?? |
| 21:15.06 | Narwhaal | fucking tard |
| 21:15.25 | Narwhaal | also it's 22 core |
| 21:15.28 | Narwhaal | not 24 |
| 21:15.55 | Funkeh` | that's really going to help with wow brilliant multi core support |
| 21:16.08 | Narwhaal | I use it for compiling shit |
| 21:16.43 | Gnarfoz | time to upgrade, then, two more cores per CPU! :D |
| 21:17.08 | Narwhaal | don't need to |
| 21:17.22 | Narwhaal | I'm set the next few years at least |
| 21:17.33 | Gnarfoz | (although mainboards for the kind of Xeon the 24-cores belong to are stupidly expensive :|) |
| 21:17.53 | Narwhaal | and ? |
| 21:18.24 | Narwhaal | I can get and E7 board fine |
| 21:18.47 | Narwhaal | I want a broadwell-based xeon anyway |
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| 23:22.49 | Andols | This scrollback was fun :) |
| 23:29.39 | Narwhaal | ikr |
| 23:29.48 | Narwhaal | I had fun taking the piss |
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| 23:37.30 | Andols | and I have a problem, i have a frame with a texture that i have rotated with SetTexCoord. The texture is then outside of the frame. I want to be able to detect when the cursor is over the texture, (but can only make it work with the frame) |
| 23:37.57 | Andols | Example: http://imgur.com/a/s7OjV Black is the (transparent) frame and red is the texture |
| 23:38.58 | nevcairiel | you cant really rotate the hitbox, unless you do a lot of hackery yourself (which is probably not worth it) |
| 23:39.27 | nebula | yea, i was trying to remember if regions had a setrotation method, but doesn't look like it |
| 23:49.17 | Andols | ok :( Thanks for the help :) |
