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| 00:05.07 | _Kee | I have more fun making radar addon than actually playing wow http://benio.me/pub/res/img/wow/_/radar170304.01.png This is so engaging :) |
| 00:13.18 | Thunder_Child | Well wow has been out for a few years longer than you have been making that addon, so it makes sense. |
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| 00:28.31 | Infus | TheDanW: eh, I got a strange baheviour here. GetCurrentMapAreaID() in Nighthold returns 1088, after a /reloadui it returns 1115 until I open the map |
| 00:28.40 | Infus | then it returns 1088 again |
| 00:32.24 | tz_ | should just write out the SV's with ordered keys and make WTF/Account a git repo which gets committed upon exit :P |
| 00:47.04 | TheDanW | Infus: my guess is you have an addon changing the map while its closed |
| 00:49.39 | Infus | hmm indeed works with all addons disabled |
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| 01:09.35 | Stanzilla | yeah grep for SetMapToCurrentZone() |
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| 10:33.24 | VIad | I did a WQ in valshara, literally 20 tarrenmill hordes on the spot |
| 10:33.36 | VIad | the whole sharting system 10/10 |
| 10:33.45 | VIad | crz is amazing |
| 10:34.20 | VIad | there are also trends, like always a bunch of horde outside kara |
| 10:34.31 | VIad | obviously nothing wrong with the crz system |
| 10:34.48 | VIad | its balancing the zone so its 10:1 horde:ally ratio :D |
| 10:41.00 | ls- | sharting :D ahahaha |
| 10:41.17 | ls- | it's called sharding, sharting is a bit different thing :p |
| 10:41.20 | VIad | sharts |
| 10:41.31 | VIad | I'm calling them sharts until they are balanced |
| 10:41.59 | ls- | :D |
| 10:48.03 | ls- | my realm is often merged w/ ravencrest and even some Russian realms o_O |
| 10:48.48 | VIad | I mean the idea is fine, balancing, but its obviously not balancing but rather favoring one factor before the other. I am certain it has some silly logic to try balance but fails |
| 10:49.20 | VIad | if crz is disabled it would be good enough tbh, at least you'd be limited to your native realms balance and thats like, the reason blizz connect realms |
| 10:51.26 | ls- | horde dominant realms are merged w/ ally dominant realms :p hehe |
| 10:52.51 | VIad | yeah, but in addition the crz puts you with people from other realms and just messes up the balance connected realms provided |
| 10:53.26 | VIad | if you tp to karazhan 100% there are 10-20 horde on regular playtime >_> |
| 10:54.22 | Semlar | time to switch to the winning team |
| 10:56.37 | VIad | time to get rid of crz |
| 10:56.47 | ls- | I like crz :p |
| 10:57.56 | VIad | its broken for my realm, usually way too many horde |
| 10:58.11 | Semlar | why are you on a pvp server if you don't want to get ganked |
| 10:58.27 | ls- | yeah, I agree w/ Semlar :p |
| 10:58.31 | VIad | you are avoiding the issue that crz doesnt balance but skews realm balance |
| 10:58.42 | VIad | realms got connected to balance A:H |
| 10:58.47 | VIad | crz on top messes it up badly |
| 10:58.56 | VIad | crz dont even try to balance it for my realms |
| 10:59.04 | Semlar | i don't know why you think realms are balanced without crz |
| 10:59.16 | VIad | because it was fine before crz started working on legion |
| 10:59.29 | VIad | they patched it in 7.1 something and it broke world balance for us |
| 11:00.29 | ls- | Semlar: I guess balanced means it's dominated by one side, so there's no ganking or wpvp :p |
| 11:01.23 | VIad | you guys are just acting retarded right now |
| 11:01.37 | VIad | balance means you get cirka same amount of both factions in a zone/area |
| 11:01.44 | VIad | not 10:1 |
| 11:02.37 | VIad | if the game itself rigs the balance to favor a faction in the world it breaks pvp realms and I am certain it works for some, but like mine crz is just aids for alliance, way too many horde |
| 11:03.08 | Semlar | it sounds like it's working out great for the horde |
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| 11:04.51 | VIad | proof that their balancing system sucks balls |
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| 11:15.39 | VIad | retri mounted on horse and attacking, I guess its like a open world broken shore buff? :D |
| 11:15.49 | VIad | he was doing that like all time, never dismounted :p |
| 11:22.08 | mikma | what was the software in linux that temporarily blocks ip addresses if they try to login incorrectly |
| 11:23.08 | mikma | fail2ban? |
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| 11:39.26 | Infus | Stanzilla: but I think we don't want to call SetMapToCurrentZone() in ScanForLoads |
| 11:40.31 | Stanzilla | well I meant that you should check all your addons if one do it, didn't think it was actually WA :D |
| 11:40.34 | Stanzilla | but yeah, agree |
| 11:41.12 | VIad | I use HBD |
| 11:41.20 | VIad | for map things because I trust nev to code it properly |
| 11:41.24 | VIad | so it doesnt mess with others :P |
| 11:41.25 | Stanzilla | I remember the map not being the one you are actually in right after login though |
| 11:41.33 | Stanzilla | hence that workaround |
| 11:42.35 | Infus | ah so, you think calling it once on login is fine? |
| 11:42.57 | Infus | I couldn't reproduce the wrong map id without addons though |
| 11:44.27 | Stanzilla | I might be fixed |
| 11:44.33 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel probably knows |
| 11:46.49 | Stanzilla | jesus I can't spell today. *It might be fixed. the workaround is from ages ago |
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| 12:19.33 | Infus | Stanzilla: you were right about nevcairiel knowing. Disabling HandyNotes fixes it :) |
| 12:20.17 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 12:21.54 | Infus | nevcairiel: so context: we got a bug report that the load condition for zone id doesn't work in the night hold |
| 12:23.28 | Infus | we use GetCurrentMapId() for that it works on zoning into the instance, but after a /reloadui GetCurrentMapId() returns 1115 |
| 12:23.53 | Infus | apparently that is due to HandyNotes, because disabling that fixes that |
| 12:23.59 | Infus | https://www.wowace.com/projects/weakauras-2/issues/876 |
| 12:28.08 | nevcairiel | you cant rely on those APIs anyway |
| 12:28.13 | nevcairiel | people might switch their map a round |
| 12:28.15 | Infus | well, teach me |
| 12:28.29 | Infus | what should we do (I do now nothing about the map apis) |
| 12:30.15 | Infus | eh "know" |
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| 12:38.36 | nevcairiel | could use my map library |
| 12:40.05 | nevcairiel | although i think blizzard created a map-independent zone id api |
| 12:40.09 | nevcairiel | not sure if it works reliably now |
| 12:40.13 | nevcairiel | in the beta it failed in some cases |
| 12:40.39 | Infus | what's the name of both? |
| 12:41.14 | Infus | HereBeDragons? |
| 12:43.16 | nevcairiel | ýes |
| 12:43.21 | nevcairiel | forgot what the other one was called |
| 12:43.29 | Infus | and the api to use would be HBD:GetPlayerZone() |
| 12:43.37 | Infus | Stanzilla: what do you think? |
| 12:44.13 | Infus | the links to the api pages on https://www.wowace.com/projects/herebedragons are broken |
| 12:44.44 | Infus | should be to https://www.wowace.com/projects/herebedragons/pages/api/here-be-dragons-1-0 |
| 12:44.54 | nevcairiel | tell curse |
| 12:44.55 | nevcairiel | cant fix them |
| 12:50.22 | nevcairiel | GetPlayerMapAreaID is the API i meant |
| 12:50.25 | nevcairiel | not sure if its reliable now |
| 12:54.14 | Infus | it returns nothing inside NightHold |
| 12:54.23 | Stanzilla | Infus: if we can avoid using the lib just for that, that would be better but if not, I'm not opposed |
| 12:54.34 | nevcairiel | yeah it didnt work in instances in the beta, guess it wasnt fixed |
| 12:54.50 | Infus | Stanzilla: so that's your answer already :) |
| 12:55.03 | Stanzilla | damn |
| 12:55.34 | Stanzilla | I blame TheDanW |
| 12:55.50 | Infus | and Guill |
| 12:58.36 | Infus | nevcairiel: thanks for your help |
| 12:58.57 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: why can't you edit the links? moar cf bugs? |
| 13:01.26 | nevcairiel | you can edit it, but it autoreplaces it with something wrong |
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| 13:15.43 | _Kee | if I get detailed e-mail notifications about updated addons, isn't it possible to tell Repo#wowuidev-commits about it to? |
| 13:16.09 | _Kee | s/to/too/ |
| 13:16.22 | _Kee | mehs |
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| 13:18.54 | Stanzilla | good reminder that I wanted to leave that channel, thanks |
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| 14:56.43 | Aftermathh | Hey |
| 14:57.04 | Aftermathh | Is there any difference between "THINOUTLINE" and "OUTLINE"? |
| 15:21.53 | Stanzilla | yes |
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| 18:46.21 | mckenziemc1 | o.o |
| 18:46.36 | mckenziemc1 | Great repository names are short and memorable. Need inspiration? How about musical-lamp. |
| 18:46.59 | mckenziemc1 | which is an interactive link to literally put that as the new repository name >.> |
| 18:52.06 | zenzelezz | ah, naming... the thing that stops 90% of my projects dead before I get started |
| 18:52.27 | mckenziemc1 | you could create a musical lamp |
| 18:52.54 | zenzelezz | I'm not very musical |
| 18:53.39 | mckenziemc1 | nor is https://github.com/mckenziemc/buzzer-clock |
| 18:53.55 | zenzelezz | I would never expect a buzzer-clock to be musical |
| 18:54.28 | mckenziemc1 | it plays the Westminster Quarters, but buzzer's just aren't very chime-y |
| 18:55.04 | mckenziemc1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:05.05 | zenzelezz | I swear there's only one single gaming chair manufacturer, selling the same chair under 30 different brands |
| 19:05.10 | zenzelezz | at least they all look nearly identical |
| 19:14.21 | Thunder_Child | You mean one of those silly things that are supposed to look like they just came out of a sports car? |
| 19:14.55 | zenzelezz | yeah |
| 19:15.40 | zenzelezz | I do have one, and they are very comfortable. But any time I watch a game tournament, a different brand is advertising one that looks just like it |
| 19:15.51 | zenzelezz | different from last, not just from mine |
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| 19:36.42 | Thunder_Child | I decided to go a bit less for looks but a bit better for comfort and got a herman miller chair. |
| 19:49.00 | zenzelezz | I couldn't care less about looks =) |
| 19:49.10 | zenzelezz | not familiar with the one you mention |
| 19:51.21 | Thunder_Child | http://www.hermanmiller.com/products/seating/performance-work-chairs/aeron-chairs.html |
| 19:52.10 | zenzelezz | that does look comfortable |
| 19:52.48 | Thunder_Child | They also run ~$700 usd. |
| 19:53.14 | Thunder_Child | The up side is a 12 year warranty. |
| 19:53.29 | Thunder_Child | And onsite repair. |
| 19:54.48 | zenzelezz | nice; think I've only had something like that once... many years ago, when I took over a work chair from my dad's workplace (that they were going to throw away) |
| 19:55.19 | zenzelezz | though I don't think I've read the warranty notice on most of my chairs |
| 19:55.24 | zenzelezz | since half of them came from Ikea |
| 19:56.27 | Thunder_Child | Well I always had shitty chairs at home and herman miller chairs at work, so I finally just got one. |
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| 20:40.49 | zenzelezz | Gillette sponsoring IEM seems like a good idea. Half++ of the audience must be just starting to grow hair on their face, and thus be getting into that sort of thing |
| 20:57.08 | _Kee | Half of my guild went to IEM and I have no raid tommorow night :( |
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| 21:25.39 | fewyn | attempted to buy a zeldo machine |
| 21:25.44 | fewyn | it was sold out everywhere obv |
| 21:25.52 | fewyn | i found out target will have them tomorrow |
| 21:25.57 | fewyn | will need to be there at like 7am |
| 21:28.15 | Thunder_Child | Sounds like it's not going to get good for a while. |
| 21:28.23 | Thunder_Child | Or even V2. |
| 21:36.20 | Fisker | hugtackles Cairenn |
| 21:36.34 | Fisker | We have surplus neons |
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| 21:57.30 | Zeldo | Where do I get one of those? |
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