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| 00:31.53 | TheDanW | foxlit: not sure i understand, most of those don't conflict across widget types |
| 00:34.45 | TheDanW | foxlit: onvaluechanged: statusbar - self,value, slider - self,value,userInput |
| 00:35.09 | TheDanW | i filled in your missing ones http://pastebin.com/uz93N1uX |
| 00:37.13 | TheDanW | if you mix widget types by templates then it'll attempt to apply everything that is common - so a button template applied to an editbox will apply everything up to frame |
| 00:37.54 | TheDanW | a slider template applied to a status bar won't apply an on value changed handler |
| 01:02.11 | Primer | I recently changed processAffinityMask in Config.wtf, and have noticed that general CPU load changes accordingly with this setting. I'm curious as to what parts of the game are actually being balanced across CPUs. |
| 01:04.31 | Primer | There's a green forum post saying this does nothing though |
| 01:05.21 | Primer | Yet it's been my observation (In Linux, at least, using Gkrellm, which shows load for every core) that if I change processAffinityMask to use X cores, X cores are usually at load |
| 01:05.24 | Primer | From 1 to 4 |
| 01:06.18 | Primer | https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/10160035925#post-5 |
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| 01:12.29 | mckenziemc | for (int i = 0; i < 1;); |
| 01:31.25 | _Kee | Soo the hatchling event was: fly to one of old Kalimdor's location, stand near some egg, kill one bird, to get a 5day buff, that makes both head and shoulders invisible, and adding some pet on your shoulders. Well, I am not entertained. |
| 01:31.54 | _Kee | If it was a toy, as a reward, I would be. |
| 01:33.15 | _Kee | If I participate in event, I would like to be rewarded. Toy, pet, mount, even achievement. Otherwise, it's not funny :( |
| 01:46.15 | mckenziemc | participate in reading |
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| 02:10.16 | Ssateneth | im not good at asking questions like this... uhhhhhh |
| 02:11.49 | Thunder_Child | Try it with a cucumber first. |
| 02:11.55 | Ssateneth | I want to uhhh |
| 02:12.04 | Ssateneth | prename a variable |
| 02:12.08 | Ssateneth | idont know the word |
| 02:12.23 | Ssateneth | i want to make a function with an argument that denotes the name of a variable within the function |
| 02:12.45 | Thunder_Child | declare? |
| 02:12.53 | Ssateneth | maybe? |
| 02:12.58 | Ssateneth | http://pastebin.com/raw/H0A7YTt3 |
| 02:13.16 | Ssateneth | I want to pas the timername argument as the name of the c_timer.NewTimer |
| 02:13.49 | Ssateneth | i know thats not coded right due to my question |
| 02:14.39 | TheDanW | why? looks like you actually want to return a value |
| 02:17.37 | Ssateneth | sec |
| 02:23.03 | Ssateneth | ok im not sure what you mean there. the In() function doesnt return anything |
| 02:23.11 | Ssateneth | it just creates the c timer |
| 02:23.34 | Ssateneth | if for some reason i want to make a cancelable timer, i have to name it something |
| 02:23.40 | Ssateneth | so i can cancel it later by name |
| 02:30.09 | Thunder_Child | I don't know Lua but wouldn't you just call cancel on 'timename'? |
| 02:30.36 | Thunder_Child | timername* |
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| 02:42.02 | Ssateneth | i need to name timername though |
| 02:42.24 | Ssateneth | if I make multiple cancelable timers, they all need to be named something unique |
| 02:42.50 | Ssateneth | so i can cancel them should I need to cancel them, and they can only be canceled by name |
| 02:43.51 | Ssateneth | so if I do like In(10,function() print("Hello") end, 1, "sometimer") and In(15,function() print("Apple") end, 1, "othertimer") |
| 02:44.05 | Ssateneth | I can do othertimer:Cancel() to cancel the second one |
| 02:44.22 | Thunder_Child | Oh, in python it's eval |
| 02:44.22 | Ssateneth | thats what I want; to name timer |
| 02:44.51 | Thunder_Child | which is to use the value of a var as a var itself. |
| 02:45.11 | Ssateneth | thats probably what I need, but in Lua |
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| 02:48.34 | _Kee | I don't know if I understood good, but doesn't AceTimer-3.0 lib satisfy your needs? |
| 02:51.49 | mckenziemc | NIMH |
| 02:52.07 | _Kee | https://www.wowace.com/projects/ace3/pages/api/ace-timer-3-0 :CancelAllTimers() or :CancelTimer(id) looks should make a work |
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| 03:20.43 | Ssateneth | I think I got it! |
| 03:21.42 | Ssateneth | change timername = C_Timer.NewTimer(seconds, code) to _G[timername] = C_Timer.NewTimer(seconds, code) |
| 03:21.58 | Ssateneth | converted string to name of the variable |
| 03:25.22 | Ssateneth | yup, works! |
| 03:26.08 | Ssateneth | this helped me, https://forums.coronalabs.com/topic/2408-get-the-name-of-a-variable/, post from firemaplegames |
| 03:26.24 | Ssateneth | referencd _G["yourvariablename] |
| 03:26.27 | Ssateneth | " |
| 04:02.59 | Simca | TheDanW: DBCache.bin is a bit buggy, currently if the client requests something and the server returns nothing (basically, the server says it has the information in question but isn't willing to part with it), a row for the table/ID combo in question is written to DBCache.bin but the datasize is 0 and therefore a complete waste of space. |
| 04:04.11 | Simca | it may have negative side effects visible in gameplay later on if not fixed, as presumably the client will not continue to request the data if it is 'cached', even if the cached data is totally invalid |
| 04:06.03 | Simca | example: https://db.tt/GcQEcG8noa - datasize is 0, row ends abruptly there instead of having row data |
| 04:07.13 | Simca | i'll post this on the forums as well and poke Setec9 on twitter, but thought i'd mention it here too |
| 04:08.43 | Simca | (i think the first integer after the signature is broken too, since it starts counting up from 0 for each row until it encounters the first 'datasize 0' row, then it is FF FF FF FF for the rest of the file) |
| 04:20.03 | Semlar | stop hacking simca |
| 04:21.17 | Simca | to be clear, both of those bugs surface by starting the ptr, logging into any character, exiting the ptr, and examining DBCache.bin; no manipulation is required by the end-user, just normal use of WoW |
| 04:23.48 | mckenziemc | hacks Semlar. |
| 04:28.28 | _Kee | puts mckenziemc to the bin database, sets datasize to 0 and appends FF FF FF FF |
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| 04:34.04 | mckenziemc | overwrites _Kee with 0xDEADBEEF |
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| 06:33.13 | Ketho | hey |
| 06:40.46 | _Kee | o/ |
| 06:42.04 | znf | Did anyone get their Google Account signed out on their mobile devices today/this morning? |
| 06:42.53 | nevcairiel | not me |
| 06:43.14 | znf | my personal account works |
| 06:43.18 | znf | but my g-suite one doesn't |
| 06:43.22 | znf | says it cant' sign in |
| 06:43.32 | znf | I'm logged on the gmail of the account in the browser just fine |
| 06:46.41 | znf | surprisingly, all other services seem to sync just fine |
| 06:48.16 | znf | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ROYnTYcM/Screenshot_2017-02-24-08-47-12.png |
| 06:50.33 | Trela | Known issue and posted on Google's help pages. |
| 06:50.55 | Trela | Suspected that they wiped all authenticated sessions due to the Cloudflare bug. |
| 06:50.58 | znf | Trela, where? |
| 06:51.08 | Trela | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13721134 |
| 06:51.09 | znf | ok, but why can't I sign back in gmail and gmail alone? out of all the google services? |
| 06:51.33 | Trela | No idea. |
| 06:51.35 | [TOM_RUS] | my google account got signed out on phone and windows mail client, logged back in without issues |
| 06:52.41 | znf | it's weird that only one of my account is affected and ONLY gmail |
| 06:54.34 | Trela | Oh, for multiple accounts on my work computer I had to force clear all my Google sessions. Trying to sign into another just kept redirecting me to the /0/ authenticated account. |
| 06:55.05 | znf | guess I'll wait |
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| 07:22.35 | mckenziemc | znf: have you tried restarting the device? |
| 07:22.43 | mckenziemc | :) |
| 07:22.44 | znf | yeah |
| 07:22.54 | mckenziemc | hmm, worked for me |
| 07:23.02 | mckenziemc | shrugs. |
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| 07:48.36 | Simca | it's unrelated to the cloudflare thing, according to google. they don't use cloudflare at all, so makes sense |
| 07:52.14 | Alram | yeah it'd just be super weird and worrying if it was releated |
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| 08:02.04 | znf | Why would google use cloudflare, anyway? |
| 08:02.20 | znf | I mean, who in their right mind would think they would use cloudflare? |
| 08:02.28 | znf | They took in clients which cloudflare couldn't handle |
| 08:04.22 | Phixion | n |
| 08:04.35 | Phixion | furiously waves at Alram |
| 08:05.03 | Alram | y |
| 08:05.13 | Phixion | gd |
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| 08:40.41 | VIad | ok so I bought a screen and it included the right cable, but not long enough cable :P is the standard called DVI-D ? |
| 08:40.59 | nevcairiel | people still use dvi cables? |
| 08:41.41 | VIad | my hdmi temp cable doesnt support 60 hz but my dvi one does 144 hz so figured I need to get a dvi spare :p |
| 08:42.24 | nevcairiel | for 144hz the usual choice is using displayport |
| 08:43.00 | nevcairiel | i guess at 1080p a dual-link DVI cable also works |
| 08:43.58 | VIad | my gpu has dvi, hdmi and like 3 dp so plenty to pick from |
| 08:44.16 | VIad | regarding sli, should I hook up both to the primary card or one per card for dual monitor? |
| 08:44.26 | VIad | got my second monitor, never used two monitors at once before yesterday :P |
| 08:44.50 | nevcairiel | with sli you should connect all sc reens to one gpu, the primary |
| 08:45.13 | VIad | yeah |
| 08:45.25 | VIad | I assumed so myself |
| 08:45.49 | VIad | found a DP cable, dangerous, only 60 hz :P DP v1.2 |
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| 08:46.50 | VIad | wow this was bad... like I am looking at monitor cables at komplett and only the DVI-D one is for high hz, the DP once are v.1.2 |
| 08:48.00 | VIad | talk shit about DVI, even they write on their product description its an old standard and outdated :P |
| 08:48.10 | VIad | but if HDMI and DP they sell don't support 144 hz :P |
| 08:48.15 | VIad | I mean c'mon |
| 08:48.32 | VIad | https://www.komplett.no/product/846069/datautstyr/kabler/monitorkabler/iiglo-skjermkabel-dp-dp-2-m# |
| 08:48.44 | VIad | 1080p@60hz it writes |
| 08:49.02 | nevcairiel | DP 1.2 supports the bandwidth for 144hz, maybe their info is just wrong |
| 08:49.31 | nevcairiel | even a comment below says it does 144hz fine |
| 08:50.19 | nevcairiel | in any case thats the point of having standards, if a cable is certified for DP 1.2 you dont need to read what the manufacturer writes about it :p |
| 08:53.40 | VIad | ,_, |
| 08:53.46 | VIad | being noob it can be scary |
| 08:53.51 | VIad | if the vendor writes wrong info |
| 08:54.16 | VIad | I'd probably fallback to the DVI-D because I know it works for 144 hz fine since thats what I used because thats the cable I got bundled :P |
| 08:55.09 | VIad | thanks for the help nev, bought the 2m cable, the box 1m is too short :P |
| 08:56.21 | nevcairiel | i use DP 1.2 for 2560x1440 144Hz, so it certainly works =p |
| 08:56.55 | VIad | next hdmi standard supposedly will support higher hz but for now you can't use hdmi for 4k >60hz if I remember correctly |
| 08:57.50 | p3lim | VIad: which city you in again? |
| 08:58.08 | VIad | oslo |
| 08:58.19 | p3lim | visit digital impuls |
| 08:58.23 | p3lim | they'll hook you up |
| 08:58.41 | nevcairiel | yeah HDMI 2.0 tops out at 4K@60Hz, but i dont think any other display connection does any more either |
| 08:58.55 | VIad | didn't DP manage higher? or DVI-D? |
| 08:59.01 | nevcairiel | DVI certainly not |
| 08:59.03 | VIad | maybe it's DP v2 or something |
| 08:59.45 | nevcairiel | DP 1.3 supports 4K @ 120Hz, but I don't think I've seen thigns support that yet |
| 08:59.47 | VIad | DP 1.4 actually |
| 09:00.02 | p3lim | DP 1.3 can do 8k@60Hz |
| 09:00.04 | VIad | yeah its probably too new, likethe new hdmi |
| 09:00.23 | nevcairiel | DP 1.3 was standardizes in 2014 |
| 09:00.26 | nevcairiel | but adoption is slow |
| 09:00.39 | VIad | hdmi is awesome if you cap out at 1080p and watch movies on it :P |
| 09:00.40 | nevcairiel | HDMI 2.1 is much much newer, was just revealed early this year |
| 09:00.47 | nevcairiel | wont be in devices before 2018 |
| 09:00.54 | VIad | but the standard is outdated, the one most devices use |
| 09:01.39 | VIad | I think there must be something wrong with my W10 installation btw |
| 09:01.44 | nevcairiel | p3lim: actually you need 1.4 for that, 1.3 only does 8K@30 |
| 09:01.54 | nevcairiel | but 1.4 is also standardized already, maybe devices will just skip 1.3 |
| 09:01.55 | p3lim | yeah I typod :) |
| 09:02.04 | VIad | playing wow/overwatch window/borderless makes the graphics suffer, they say they render at higher FPS than I actually get on screen somehow :/ |
| 09:02.23 | nevcairiel | oh wait, 1.4 uses compression for 8K@60 |
| 09:02.25 | VIad | made the games run in fullscreen and it's like night and day |
| 09:02.26 | nevcairiel | thats no good |
| 09:02.42 | p3lim | DSC is quite good afaik |
| 09:02.48 | nevcairiel | its still lossy compression |
| 09:03.03 | nevcairiel | HDMI 2.1 actually does 8K @ 60 without compression |
| 09:03.10 | nevcairiel | moar dataz |
| 09:03.12 | p3lim | sure, but it's not available |
| 09:03.22 | nevcairiel | neither is 1.4 support from where i am standing :D |
| 09:03.31 | nevcairiel | not that 8K displays are actually a thing, mind you |
| 09:03.31 | p3lim | I have 1.4 :P |
| 09:04.11 | nevcairiel | my GPU claims to support 1.4, but i doubt it would do DSC |
| 09:04.43 | nevcairiel | not that I could test, see lack of displays ;) |
| 09:05.08 | p3lim | afaik 1070 and 1080 supports 1.4 and DSC |
| 09:05.19 | nevcairiel | thats what I have |
| 09:05.24 | p3lim | same |
| 09:05.55 | VIad | are tv's lying when they write 1000 hz btw? |
| 09:06.04 | VIad | or is it like 24 fps over 1000 hz some shenanigans |
| 09:06.10 | nevcairiel | not lying as such, but its not what you think it is |
| 09:06.25 | VIad | bet its like a cpu thing running at 1000 hz not screen updates :p |
| 09:06.51 | nevcairiel | it depends on what exactly that particular company does |
| 09:07.36 | VIad | we're back to the sega bit wars or whatever it was :p |
| 09:07.36 | nevcairiel | panels will usually refresh at around 200-240Hz in such TVs, the difference is then made up through backlight strobing |
| 09:08.17 | nevcairiel | which can trick the eye into seeing a more fluid motion |
| 09:08.22 | p3lim | actually, pascal only supports 1.3 |
| 09:08.24 | p3lim | I checked |
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| 09:09.11 | nevcairiel | i think it said something like DP 1.4-ready, maybe they plan to enable that later |
| 09:09.17 | p3lim | yeah |
| 09:09.50 | p3lim | but, 1.3 supports 4k@120hz and 1440p@240hz |
| 09:11.23 | nevcairiel | 1.4 is basically only "software" features anyway |
| 09:11.35 | nevcairiel | DSC, FEC, HDR, and some others |
| 09:11.42 | p3lim | HDR is 1.3 |
| 09:11.57 | VIad | I hate the tv effect of blur they use to make it seems like its fluid motion and higher fps than it actually is |
| 09:12.01 | VIad | works poorly with gaming :p |
| 09:12.32 | VIad | but tvs are cheaper than monitors and tvs are larger too so might be nice in some cases |
| 09:12.34 | nevcairiel | p3lim: some article i found claims HDR10 is only in 1.4 |
| 09:12.42 | p3lim | 10bit? |
| 09:12.56 | p3lim | maybe |
| 09:12.56 | nevcairiel | HDR in 8bit doesnt make that much sense |
| 09:13.02 | p3lim | I suppose :p |
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| 09:16.29 | p3lim | doesn't HDR also have to be supported by the media being played too tho? |
| 09:16.39 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 09:16.50 | p3lim | meh |
| 09:16.56 | nevcairiel | or the game being played |
| 09:17.10 | p3lim | I think the new tomb raider game has HDR support |
| 09:17.12 | nevcairiel | not sure if the first HDR gaming monitors arrived yet |
| 09:17.13 | p3lim | but that's about it |
| 09:17.18 | p3lim | no idea |
| 09:17.18 | VIad | linus did a video where they watched hdr blurays and regular on a tv that supported hdr |
| 09:17.29 | p3lim | yeah I saw that one |
| 09:17.44 | VIad | think the conclusion was it wasnt a "must have it" |
| 09:18.58 | p3lim | haven't had an optical drive in prob 10 years |
| 09:19.13 | p3lim | cut them out the same time I cut out floppy drives |
| 09:19.24 | p3lim | USB drives were just too good in comparison |
| 09:19.27 | nevcairiel | i have a Blu-ray drive so i can rip discs I buy |
| 09:19.38 | nevcairiel | the problem however is that UHD Blu-ray isnt beaten yet =p |
| 09:19.50 | VIad | I have a portable bluray writer if I need one that badly but never used it still :d |
| 09:21.50 | p3lim | my dad is a movie nut, and he keeps ripping blurays for his private server |
| 09:21.55 | p3lim | which of course I have access too :p |
| 09:22.00 | p3lim | so I stream from his archive |
| 09:22.02 | p3lim | or netflix |
| 09:23.23 | VIad | he will laugh after the bombs have fallen and he has a generator and movies on bluray! |
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| 10:32.15 | karl_w_w | nevcairiel why is madvr broken? :P |
| 10:34.21 | p3lim | TheDanW: thanks for GetEquipmentSetForSpec |
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| 11:59.03 | p3lim | foxlit: what's up with the weird grouping here? |
| 11:59.09 | p3lim | https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/wut/#q:LibStub |
| 12:01.09 | nevcairiel | what part is weird? |
| 12:01.28 | p3lim | showing all addons that use it under one addon |
| 12:01.48 | nevcairiel | it groups cases where the file is identical |
| 12:10.09 | znf | >CloudFlare, a multibillion-dollar startup that runs a popular content delivery network |
| 12:10.24 | znf | why the hell do they call CloudFlare a startup? |
| 12:10.52 | znf | it was a startup 7 years ago :-/ |
| 12:11.43 | Alram | a multibillion-dollar startup |
| 12:11.47 | Alram | those also sort of contradict |
| 12:12.21 | nevcairiel | cloudflare could probably be considered a startup until 2014 or so when they finally gained popularity |
| 12:13.38 | znf | am I the only one that dislikes their services? |
| 12:14.11 | nevcairiel | would you prefer sites being down because they dont have ddos protection? =p |
| 12:14.26 | znf | I would prefer them to not have that stupid free tier service |
| 12:15.03 | znf | every tard on the planet with 3 visitors on their blog set up that annoying thing |
| 12:15.29 | nevcairiel | blame the people hosting their personal blogs on that instead of the service |
| 12:19.12 | VIad | znf called me tard :( |
| 12:19.20 | znf | !! |
| 12:20.02 | VIad | I don't use cloudflare but if I had a blog with 1 views per month, I'd so set it up |
| 12:22.43 | VIad | DisplayFusion or Actual Multiple Monitors? |
| 12:22.49 | VIad | I feel a bit torn :p |
| 12:23.09 | VIad | they say they can make it so you can play fullscreen and use alt-tab to unlock the mouse but keep the fullscreen active on the one monitor |
| 12:23.22 | VIad | sounds handy when I wanna unlock the mouse and use ito n the second monitor :o |
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| 12:32.07 | VIad | if I am to play games fullscreen for the sake of better performance, I also need to see if there is a way to let the game be, and temporarily take control of the second monitor and such. 3rd party might help, but these two seem popular |
| 12:35.12 | Shockah|Work | don't think you can even write an app that would let you do stuff on the second monitor with one in fullscreen one on the first |
| 12:35.22 | Shockah|Work | -one |
| 12:35.27 | Shockah|Work | +mode |
| 12:39.44 | VIad | I'd say the same, but? https://www.actualtools.com/articles/detail.php?ID=1379#2.1 |
| 12:40.55 | Shockah|Work | huh. |
| 12:42.04 | VIad | displayfusion also says they got the so called "ignore deactivation" that you can apply to certain process/windows so you can't make them deactivate and somehow that fixes it so fullscreen can keep going while your mouse can be decoupled:/ |
| 12:42.27 | Shockah|Work | does it? first time hearing of it |
| 12:42.37 | Shockah|Work | and i'm using DisplayFusion every day |
| 12:43.20 | VIad | it should have it, yes :P |
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| 13:29.46 | foxlit | p3lim: as nevcairiel said, it groups strictly identical files. Some of those differ only in comments, but there are actually a few functionally-different libstubs out in the wild. |
| 13:32.55 | znf | has anyone ever used btrfs? |
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| 15:07.30 | Thunder_Child | znf: After doing a little poking around it seems to be rather poor at file system IO. |
| 15:07.43 | znf | I'm aware |
| 15:08.48 | Thunder_Child | Not sure the use case. The only thing I have seen is someone saying they use it for the root partition, but ext4 for home. |
| 15:09.25 | znf | I was in need of more specialized help :) |
| 15:09.42 | znf | wasn't able to resize a filesystem |
| 15:09.50 | znf | apparently you need to mount it first, you can't do it unmounted |
| 15:10.00 | znf | and I was working on a disc image |
| 15:10.13 | znf | and the host I was working on had an older kernel with no support for the new features of btrfs |
| 15:30.29 | VIad | testing out the actual multiple monitors software, seems to work |
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| 16:22.31 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.04 | Andols | For 7.1.5? |
| 16:38.19 | foxlit | maybe. It's not like an addon tells you what version it was designed for. |
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| 16:52.58 | foxlit | Maybe I should update the cutoff for those stats to only cover 7.0+; it's basically the last version of all addons released up to one year ago. |
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| 18:09.12 | TheDanW | Simca: yeah, that's pretty far outside the scope of UI, Jared is probably a better avenue, i'm not familiar with the new 7.2 db caching mechanisms |
| 18:10.27 | TheDanW | p3lim: i'll forward your thanks to the engineer that added it :) |
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| 18:17.24 | karl_w_w | https://i.redd.it/gvsace98yshy.jpg |
| 18:17.29 | karl_w_w | good luck sleeping tonight |
| 18:26.05 | Andols | foxlit: Didn't you get the files from Curse, can't you get the verion number from there? |
| 18:45.59 | Andols | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ |
| 18:46.25 | Andols | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ |
| 18:46.41 | Thunder_Child | Silly cats. |
| 18:50.32 | znf | no, it's just a full "hello world" in brainfuck |
| 18:54.29 | Andols | I should not leave this as the window in focus when I leave the computer |
| 18:57.57 | Thunder_Child | You could also just lock the computer when you leave. |
| 18:58.58 | Thunder_Child | Or ask Torhal how he handles it since he is a cat lady. |
| 18:59.22 | Thunder_Child | s/a c/a crazy c/ |
| 19:08.07 | Torhal | Car Lord, Thunder_Child. |
| 19:08.11 | Torhal | Cat, as well. |
| 19:12.15 | Andols | Crazy Cat Lord? |
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| 19:15.51 | p3lim | TheDanW: would still like to see the option to assign more than one spec to the same set though |
| 19:17.04 | TheDanW | p3lim: seems reasonable to me, i'll forward to ui design |
| 19:20.24 | Ressy | naw.. Torhal's a cat lady |
| 19:27.27 | Thunder_Child | You forgot the crazy, Ressy. |
| 19:31.10 | Ressy | thats implicit when he has over 15 cats. |
| 19:32.24 | Thunder_Child | I think that's implicit when someone has more then one cat. |
| 19:32.37 | Thunder_Child | Still, never hurts to be clear. |
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| 20:35.10 | karl_w_w | well Moana is better than Zootopia, but they're both good |
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| 20:39.34 | Thunder_Child | I thought Storks was well done. |
| 20:41.57 | karl_w_w | haven't seen it, but neither is as good as Your Name |
| 20:42.02 | karl_w_w | VIad, https://clips.twitch.tv/dotastarladder_en/AverageSkunkDuDudu |
| 20:42.12 | karl_w_w | been some really good plays at starladder |
| 20:42.35 | VIad | omg, karl_w_w |
| 20:43.35 | VIad | nevcairiel: is it normal that the 2nd monitor makes the other "lag" a bit? :p |
| 20:43.50 | VIad | like if I youtube and play the game, the fullscreen game steals all the power so the youtube stutters a bit |
| 20:43.52 | VIad | and vice versa :d |
| 20:45.13 | nevcairiel | thats unrelated to the second monitor |
| 20:46.22 | Thunder_Child | I assume the focused application gets resource priority. |
| 20:47.18 | VIad | hmm I will have to look into it. trying out displayfusion atm |
| 20:50.15 | zenzelezz | I have no authoritative source for it, but at least I have not had any multi-monitor related issues for 10+ years now |
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| 20:53.21 | nevcairiel | i havent used multi-monitor tools like that in ages |
| 20:53.33 | nevcairiel | windows basic s upport is good enough for me these days |
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| 20:53.55 | VIad | I play games on primary monitor in fullscreen |
| 20:54.00 | VIad | without the fullscreen breaking :) |
| 20:54.15 | zenzelezz | oh, sorry - I missed the non-standard setup |
| 20:54.21 | VIad | bound win+num0 for toggling the mouse lock so I can move out into the second screen and click stuff here |
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| 21:08.21 | foxlit | TheDanW: thanks for the list. It was really two separate issues: I wanted to generate it automatically from the client binaries, but that turned out to be less trivial than I hoped for; and Globe assuming that script tag name uniquely identifies the handler signature, which isn't true for that single slider/checkbutton handler. |
| 21:13.05 | foxlit | Andols: yes, but unless people are actively going back and re-flagging the last release for the latest wow version, that's bound to miss things. I know I have addons that I update approximately once per expansion. |
| 21:17.58 | TheDanW | foxlit: i see, the plan is to generate docs for all handlers and possibly move many widgets into lua, like check button, button, slider, status bar are all good candidates |
| 21:19.03 | TheDanW | some work there to figure out how handlers, xml, and taint behave on those lua widgets |
| 21:30.36 | foxlit | That seems like a large change with a limited benefit |
| 21:31.44 | Semlar | can you add an event for when something changes a cvar |
| 21:32.02 | foxlit | (the only thing that comes to mind is that the truck-factor for people profficient in UI c++ is becoming concerning) |
| 21:34.18 | foxlit | there is such an event, but whoever is changing the cvar is also in charge of deciding whether it fires or not :) |
| 21:35.11 | Semlar | actually there is an event for when a cvar changes, it just doesn't fire unless you pass an extra argument to SetCVar |
| 21:35.33 | Semlar | if it could just always fire that'd be great |
| 21:35.44 | foxlit | there appears to be no difference between those two lines :) |
| 21:37.08 | Semlar | right now i can't hook when the ui changes cvars because most of that is defined in xml before an addon can even load |
| 21:38.18 | Semlar | you can also change a cvar in the console without any way to track it in the ui, but that's less of an issue |
| 21:41.22 | Semlar | i could just go over the entire list of cvars OnUpdate and compare their values |
| 21:42.46 | foxlit | where do I get popcorn and watch two addons register for that event and fight over who gets to control some value? |
| 21:42.58 | Semlar | well obviously mine is going to win |
| 21:43.28 | Semlar | i'll just trace which addon changed it and disable it |
| 21:45.03 | foxlit | bonus points to the addon which tricks you into disabling your own :) |
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| 21:45.45 | Semlar | how reliable is trying to do something on PLAYER_LOGOUT |
| 21:46.04 | nevcairiel | not very |
| 21:46.20 | foxlit | Depends on what you're doing. |
| 21:46.29 | Semlar | saving some settings |
| 21:46.35 | nevcairiel | a reloadui doesnt trigger it, for example, while otherwise behaving similar to a re-log |
| 21:46.37 | foxlit | totally fine. |
| 21:46.59 | Semlar | barring an actual game crash i think it usually works |
| 21:47.32 | foxlit | I doubt there's a game crash that results in your svs being serialized but doesn't trigger the event. |
| 21:47.33 | Semlar | wait reloading the ui doesn't trigger it? |
| 21:48.20 | foxlit | I have 9-year-old code that serializes SVs in PLAYER_LOGOUT, so I think nev is just confused. |
| 21:48.52 | nevcairiel | would you really notice if a reloadui doesnt do it, the fi nal logout would then do it |
| 21:49.08 | foxlit | yes. |
| 21:49.58 | foxlit | the thing to watch out for is that the UI kills availability for some API data before PLAYER_LOGOUT, but as long as you're only operating on your own data structures, there's no issue. |
| 21:50.52 | Semlar | i just want to ensure i'm not saving the wrong value for a cvar when i exit the game |
| 21:52.01 | Semlar | some variables aren't persistent so i need to track and re-instate them when you log back in |
| 21:52.16 | Semlar | but i don't want to set it to the wrong value |
| 21:55.41 | Semlar | i can confirm that it does work on a reload |
| 21:56.11 | foxlit | nevcairiel: would you really notice if a reloadui doesnt do it << more specifically, that would mean that none of the settings would persists unless I hit logout, which would be extremely annoying. |
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| 22:34.56 | znf | regex question - how do I match "string" but not "str-ing"? |
| 22:35.09 | znf | ie: exclude everything with a - |
| 22:35.52 | Fisker | Probably by negating it |
| 22:36.51 | foxlit | what is your opinion on matching "#@$#!!"? |
| 22:37.06 | Semlar | you want to match none of str-ing? |
| 22:38.23 | Semlar | you can do something like define a character set of letters and a set of characters you don't want it to be followed by |
| 22:38.37 | Fisker | RIP Spaces |
| 22:39.21 | Semlar | or negative lookahead, depends on the implementation |
| 22:40.03 | Semlar | not everything supports that |
| 22:40.13 | foxlit | or on matching "æªæ¥ã®äºãªã©ä½ãç¥ããªã"? |
| 22:40.56 | foxlit | (because if you just hate the - character in particular, Fisker's solution of searching for it and complaining if you find it is the simplest one) |
| 22:41.02 | Semlar | you could also just match all the words containing those characters and strip them out later |
| 22:41.32 | Semlar | unless it needs to be a pure regex solution |
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| 23:19.06 | tz | anybody know if 7.2 has artifact trait query funcs, without having to mess with the frame? |
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