| 00:14.13 | _Kee | Lovely charm drops from Mythic+ trash. I though M+ trash does not drops anything. |
| 00:24.37 | kullervo | _Kee: because lovely charms aren't drops |
| 00:25.04 | _Kee | ah, cool :) |
| 00:26.09 | VIad | you can do iron docks heroic and reset, and only kill the trash packs :p |
| 00:26.16 | VIad | but didnt feel like it was that efficient tbh |
| 00:56.30 | kullervo | I did that in WoD |
| 00:56.42 | kullervo | wasn't as effective as afk farming in heroic SM with holy shield |
| 01:17.09 | Gnarfoz | I like how it's super obvious from the token price curve right now when people with jobs came home from work and spent their money on gold, to fill the demand the jobless/students/whatever people caused during the day. :D |
| 01:18.39 | Primer | yeah, didn't it jump to 100k gold today? |
| 01:18.51 | Gnarfoz | observe. https://wowtoken.info/ |
| 01:19.13 | Gnarfoz | (or imagine a sound appropriate for those curves :D) |
| 01:19.18 | Primer | I saw a story about how Blizz is implementing gold for other things like being able to buy items for other games, the other games themselves, etc. |
| 01:19.33 | Primer | And it mentioned how the the prices fluctuated wildly today |
| 01:19.43 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure for what battle.net balance can actually be used |
| 01:19.51 | Gnarfoz | but there's probably a FAQ for that. |
| 01:20.56 | Gnarfoz | vendors +5 randomforge +socket wq reward stat stick trinket because it gets suggested as better by 0.01% or something over the way higher ilvl proc trinket from nighthold |
| 01:21.14 | Gnarfoz | fite me, gear optimizers |
| 01:25.04 | mckenziemc | people in the NA region get home from work between 8:45 AM and 11:00 AM PST? |
| 01:28.37 | kullervo | Gnarfoz: your proc trinket has highest variance |
| 01:29.13 | netameta | Any simple way of making a multi-line editbox that have a background and a border that get bigger as the line of numbers increases ? |
| 01:29.31 | Primer | Gnarfoz: The article mentioned specific items in other blizz games such as HotS skins |
| 01:29.49 | Gnarfoz | I'm sure Blizz themselves have an actual list that's more trustworthy than FAKE NEWS |
| 01:29.51 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 01:30.39 | Gnarfoz | kullervo: obviously the stat stick manages to overcome the other one mostly because it's static... but it's only like 382 dps, so I don't give a toss :| |
| 01:32.14 | Gnarfoz | also I prefer the interaction of random +4500 haste procs with my haste -> movement speed boots :D |
| 01:33.59 | Gnarfoz | add the up to 8060 haste stack from the other trinket... and Sephuz proc (another 70% movement speed and 25% haste)... and heroism? ZOOOOOOOOOOM |
| 01:34.20 | mckenziemc | kicks Gnarfoz for flying. |
| 01:34.23 | Gnarfoz | (it's actually getting kind of uncontrollable at that point :D) |
| 01:36.11 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/o9kWPFR.png using my sprint ability will actually slow me down in this situation :D |
| 01:36.44 | mckenziemc | insane |
| 01:37.05 | Gnarfoz | nomen est omen |
| 01:37.33 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowdb.com/items/132443-aggramars-stride \o/ |
| 01:40.37 | mckenziemc | i wonder what that token price graph would've looked like if the rate wasn't evidently capped at +-3% |
| 01:41.29 | mckenziemc | +.03 |
| 01:41.41 | Gnarfoz | "steeper" is my guess :D |
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| 01:53.47 | plaw | https://twitter.com/camilzf/status/828480836857188358 |
| 01:54.03 | plaw | one for the bike riders and anyone else who appreciates physics... |
| 02:00.34 | netameta | Can you disable enter clicks in edit box ( say past 2 new lines ignore all enters (including alt) |
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| 02:37.53 | VIad | hmm. if you setup a hotspot and someone connects to their banking via it, if you packet log it, can you figure out and hijack their session? like work your way backward using their conversation to figure out the private key of the client and such. |
| 02:38.43 | VIad | was thinking in the scenario you use a unsafe network to hook to your VPN |
| 02:40.58 | VIad | curious in a server/client ssl session with private and shared keys, if you could reverse engineer the private key to fake the client in the current or a future session, like let's say log the VPN auth then be able to start your own session to their VPN based on the information transmitted over the unsecure network :p |
| 02:43.28 | xyphoid | you mean if you're the server? or if you're providing the network |
| 02:43.39 | VIad | nah, I'd just setup the free wifi and packet log it |
| 02:43.45 | xyphoid | preventing the network from taking over that session is pretty much the point of tls |
| 02:43.48 | VIad | then later sift trough the data |
| 02:44.31 | VIad | if you jump in during the middle of a established session you are out of luck |
| 02:44.51 | VIad | but if you log, then the victim connects and connects to their vpn/https or whatever using ssl/tls? |
| 02:45.18 | VIad | doesn't having their handshake and sufficient data in that session a weakness? |
| 02:45.26 | xyphoid | not generally no |
| 02:45.37 | xyphoid | like if there are bad ciphers involved or other cockups sure |
| 02:46.19 | xyphoid | but the point of ssh or tls is that i can connect to something with someone listening to the whole thing on the network and you can't get at the encrypted content |
| 02:46.38 | VIad | I'd guess that even if possible it would require a lot of time |
| 02:46.46 | VIad | like most encryptions do, when done well |
| 02:47.25 | VIad | large enough keys and such are probably enough to keep brute forcing above the resonable time you'd like to spend to crack these things :p |
| 02:47.27 | xyphoid | being able to do that in teh general case is breaking tls and if you can do that right you're probably working for the NSA |
| 02:47.50 | mckenziemc | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-key_cryptography |
| 02:48.13 | VIad | I was kind of worried that if I used a public network and connected to my VPN, to then do what I want without being exposed, I figured it wouldn't be safe enough if the network logged my connection from start to finish :p |
| 02:48.48 | mckenziemc | that would counter most of the point of VPNs |
| 02:49.09 | xyphoid | naw that's (in the general case) okay - obviously there's a lot of side channels and stuff to care about |
| 02:49.12 | VIad | since it's math, like having 4 keys, 2 public, 2 private, and enough conversation (handshakes?) could maybe make it possible to reverse and figure out the private key |
| 02:50.26 | mckenziemc | yes, math is what explains why, outside of later-discovered flaws, encryption has a function |
| 02:50.36 | VIad | tbh the safest is always 2nd factor, to make stuff very safe |
| 02:50.46 | VIad | attacker would need to have your one time pad generator too :p |
| 02:51.06 | xyphoid | a vpn won't save you necessarily if your goal is anonymity etc |
| 02:51.13 | xyphoid | you need to consider what your threat model is |
| 02:51.32 | VIad | mainly using the vpn to then access unencrypted sites like over http or stuff |
| 02:51.43 | VIad | to keep the data hidden from being read by others |
| 02:51.55 | xyphoid | but it certainly works great for 'i want to connect to work and do stuff from there, but i don't trust this wifi' |
| 02:52.00 | VIad | yeah |
| 02:52.08 | VIad | thats how I use my vpn |
| 02:52.15 | VIad | replace work with home :d |
| 02:52.38 | xyphoid | the thing is that approach protects you against your local wifi but not the internet between your VPN endpoint and the site |
| 02:53.11 | VIad | you can setup a vpn at home in your router and connect directly to that IP and establish a VPN |
| 02:53.36 | VIad | so not the typical "vpn so you can netflix us from eu" |
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| 02:58.07 | VIad | I guess updating the cert on the openvpn router would be smart, makes it harder to bruteforce when the keys have changed too :p |
| 03:00.08 | mckenziemc | that might be overkill |
| 03:00.51 | VIad | even websites have their certs expire at some point :p |
| 03:02.33 | mckenziemc | that's different |
| 03:02.42 | mckenziemc | sprinkles fresh sesame seeds on VIad's RNG. |
| 03:02.45 | VIad | :d |
| 03:03.25 | VIad | karl_w_w: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpuriZz6TVc |
| 03:17.17 | fewyn | i just bought overwatch with wow tokens :D |
| 03:17.43 | kullervo | what if I already have ow, can I buy a smurf account? |
| 03:17.51 | kullervo | gift it to my other bnet |
| 03:18.44 | kullervo | only got a few million g, don't want to buy a token for game time to buy more tokens just to find it doesn't work like I want |
| 03:22.12 | fewyn | i assume so kullervo |
| 03:22.22 | fewyn | i don't see why you couldn't |
| 03:25.25 | kullervo | with a smurf account I could warm up with comp and then play even more serious comp on my main account |
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| 03:37.39 | Gnarfoz | even though you have a few million to throw around, maybe... rtfm? :D |
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| 07:34.41 | Semlar | why does the "mouseover" unit ID not exist when mousing over a unit frame |
| 07:36.44 | Semlar | is it TheDanW's fault? |
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| 07:39.20 | nevcairiel | does here |
| 07:39.53 | Semlar | i think it's only if they're out of range |
| 07:40.22 | Semlar | like i have a party member in another zone and they don't count as a mouseover target and that has completely broken my addon |
| 07:40.39 | Semlar | because i just kind of assumed mouseover existed when i was editing the tooltip |
| 07:41.31 | nevcairiel | i suppose being entirely unreachable in another zone might change things |
| 07:43.09 | nevcairiel | but if all you are doing is changing tooltips, why not hook into setunit instead of doing hacky things |
| 07:43.45 | Semlar | it's more complicated than that, i have to deal with the stupid inspection api on a delay |
| 07:44.34 | Semlar | and i have to have a queue set up to prevent it from trying to inspect multiple people within a certain time frame |
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| 07:45.44 | Semlar | i just used mouseover as the unit because i didn't think i'd need to actually store the unit ID to be inspected |
| 07:46.14 | Semlar | what were the odds you'd have a unit tooltip that didn't belong to your mouseover |
| 07:46.46 | Semlar | well, lesson learned |
| 07:51.09 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/Nq0gWWk.gifv |
| 07:52.51 | Semlar | wow i have no idea what i was thinking when i wrote this but i don't want to touch anything because it works |
| 07:54.08 | Semlar | i'm hooking the same function in two different places |
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| 13:28.08 | mckenziemc | tokens back near their original price before the rise in the US, and still dropping |
| 13:41.25 | VIad | mckenziemc: EU tokens are 122k atm |
| 13:41.46 | VIad | koreans are insane, 237k gold |
| 13:41.54 | mckenziemc | cool story bro |
| 13:41.57 | VIad | ? |
| 13:41.59 | VIad | you talked about tokens |
| 13:43.40 | Phixion | :( |
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| 14:11.38 | znf | Iriel, Stanzilla https://www.reddit.com/r/WowUI/comments/5sq4n7/help_issue_with_new_weakaura_feature_attach/ |
| 14:12.32 | Stanzilla | yeah let Iriel fix that |
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| 14:42.31 | mckenziemc | fixes Stanzilla. |
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| 14:43.35 | Phixion | impossible |
| 14:44.07 | mckenziemc | it's only temporary, until the next wave of exploits comes around |
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| 17:28.25 | netameta | I am looking at https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ptr/UIDropDownMenu.lua, and i cant find where they are setting the "OnClick" script |
| 17:29.05 | netameta | at line 266 is the add button, i would assume that's somewhere there they will bind on click |
| 17:36.27 | foxlit | it's not actually there. |
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| 23:33.46 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/oriZOJS.png |
| 23:33.47 | znf | oh hi |
| 23:35.18 | Primer | yeah, I have like, 100k resources from having my non tanking ally have that and one that gives 50 |
| 23:35.42 | Primer | Naralex, the dude that sleeps people when you activate him. Great for world pvp. |
| 23:36.18 | Primer | So I get 150 for every WQ |
| 23:39.10 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy (~Mike@c-73-194-206-124.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 23:43.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Simca (~Simca@c-73-28-210-11.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 23:46.56 | Gnarfoz | too many times I don't have my +150 guy with me when I'm doing my WQs |
