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| 00:14.19 | Torhal | converts mckenziemc to imaginary numbers. |
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| 00:35.44 | netameta | Where can i find FriendsFrame.xml/.lua code ? |
| 00:48.47 | nebula | ~framexml |
| 00:48.47 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on https://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
| 00:49.00 | nebula | netameta: ^ |
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| 01:04.33 | mckenziemc | destroys a superset of the set of all Torhals. |
| 01:35.35 | netameta | Thanks nebula, |
| 01:35.45 | netameta | Can you not set owner on a normal Frame ? |
| 01:36.30 | Gnarfoz | what would "owner" be? do you mean parent? |
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| 09:21.26 | Semlar | does anyone know what database software wowhead or wowdb use |
| 09:22.40 | Trela | I do for at least one of them. |
| 09:24.04 | Semlar | i'm trying to decide what database to use for an unrelated project with similar requirements |
| 09:24.29 | Semlar | probably postgresql |
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| 13:40.41 | _Kee | I think, since next week, I'll accept LFR only if isLeader (http://wow.gamepedia.com/API_GetLFGProposal) so I can be sure the instance is fresh and I don't need to queue gazillion times to LFR in progress. |
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| 14:58.13 | foxlit | _Kee: by the time you get offered leader an hour later, it'll go "Oops, some asshole rejected the invite, your group is no longer there." |
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| 15:15.30 | _Kee | I think it's better to decline rather than entering and either afking for 5m or getting 15m penalty. |
| 15:20.14 | _Kee | or how long the penalty is, I used to just melee autoattack boss as warlock for 5m while reading mails/RSS etc. then leaving and requeue. |
| 15:20.33 | foxlit | I believe the intended solution is yo finish the run you were invited to and then queue into a new one. |
| 15:21.30 | nevcairiel | blues once claimed that it'll try to put you in a fresh one if you got into an incomplete one before, but part of that may imply that you had finished that incomplete one |
| 15:25.21 | _Kee | Doesn't this solution make even more people leaving before completing lfr? |
| 15:29.18 | foxlit | Yet it's less disruptive than anything else |
| 15:32.15 | nevcairiel | when they still showed you if it was incomplete, filling missing s pots was really not happening |
| 15:32.28 | foxlit | As long as backfill works, you are guaranteed to finish in two queues, without repeating bosses |
| 15:33.56 | _Kee | "filling missing s pots was really not happening " that would be great |
| 15:34.12 | nevcairiel | yeah so that when your tank leaves the entire group can go re-queue? |
| 15:35.05 | foxlit | or after you kick the dps-specced healers, or warlocks meleeing the boss. |
| 15:35.28 | _Kee | if everybody joins from beginning, why would someone leave? |
| 15:36.01 | nevcairiel | every week i join EN LFR just to do ursoc and then leave after, why? because i hate lfr and i dont need anything else :p |
| 15:36.37 | nevcairiel | there is millions of reasons why people leave |
| 15:37.48 | _Kee | gonna try it anyway |
| 15:40.37 | mckenziemc | if no one would leave if they all joined from the beginning, why is there a need to fill groups? |
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| 15:43.20 | _Kee | this! "Don't join ongoing groups" checkbox would be awesome. |
| 15:43.36 | mckenziemc | ... |
| 15:43.48 | mckenziemc | i think you're not getting it :( |
| 15:44.07 | nevcairiel | not even a little |
| 15:44.16 | Shockah | realm type filter would be awesome |
| 15:44.25 | Shockah | for custom groups |
| 15:44.44 | Shockah | so i don't join all the pvp realms all the time |
| 15:45.37 | nevcairiel | more useful would be a group role filter, if i'm a tank looking for a dungeon group, hide all them groups that already have a tank |
| 15:47.35 | _Kee | In overwatch, and many moba, when one people leaves, the raid/party is disbanded, leaver gets penalty, and that's all, everybody must queue again from beginning. |
| 15:47.42 | _Kee | I miss that option in LFR. |
| 15:48.03 | mckenziemc | WoW is not a MOBA |
| 15:48.14 | nevcairiel | in a moba you also play against other players, and with one person less you will just lose generally |
| 15:48.18 | nevcairiel | in lfr you can just continue |
| 15:49.20 | nevcairiel | and when you are standing at the last boss, you also dont want to have to start from the beginning all over again |
| 15:51.01 | _Kee | then you force someone who wishes to play all bosses to join only one boss and either afk or leave. that sound stupid. and then this person requeues and leaves before this boss in another group to make even more poeple forced to afk/leave. |
| 15:51.08 | _Kee | that sounds really bad for me. |
| 15:51.18 | nevcairiel | thats because you are doing it wrong |
| 15:51.25 | nevcairiel | just play the last boss and then re-queue and play the first couple |
| 15:51.29 | nevcairiel | => done all bosses |
| 15:51.35 | nevcairiel | you are forcing the grief on yourself |
| 15:53.01 | nevcairiel | when a single dpser leaves, lfr doesnt even necessarily re-fill, it just scales down and goes on |
| 15:53.47 | _Kee | yeah, so even more I don't understand refilling |
| 15:54.09 | nevcairiel | it appears there is many things you dont understand |
| 15:54.11 | nevcairiel | but we dont judge |
| 15:54.26 | mckenziemc | your idea would just mean your only chance to get later bosses would be to hope enough new groups get to those later bosses before falling apart for you to get into one |
| 15:55.09 | mckenziemc | you're not the only one who would be requesting only new groups |
| 15:55.38 | _Kee | so we would find new groups ever faster, cool |
| 15:55.50 | mckenziemc | which disband even faster |
| 15:56.10 | mckenziemc | because of the greatly reduced number of people who want to fill a vacated spot |
| 15:56.12 | _Kee | disband? |
| 15:56.28 | _Kee | ok⦠I didn't saw disbanded lfr group since beginning of Legion |
| 15:56.38 | _Kee | I don't really get this |
| 15:56.59 | mckenziemc | could that be because of the system not letting people pick new / refill groups? ;) |
| 15:57.00 | nevcairiel | if it never re-fills a missing tank or something, eventually people are going to leave |
| 15:57.03 | foxlit | just make the checkbox also disable backfill for those groups. |
| 15:57.22 | mckenziemc | lol foxlit |
| 15:57.28 | _Kee | current EN Mythic has ideal system |
| 15:57.53 | _Kee | once you join one group, you cannot join another, so you don't leave |
| 15:57.55 | Simca_ | it is unfortunate that people have to wait in queue twice very often in order to do an LFR wing |
| 15:57.55 | _Kee | and all are happy |
| 15:58.04 | Simca_ | but i don't see an easy solution |
| 15:58.40 | nevcairiel | in all the weeks i have done ursoc lfr for the damn artifact appearance, i dont remember once not getting in at the beginning (ursoc is the first boss) |
| 15:58.43 | Simca_ | this checkbox idea would cripple groups losing a couple players who want to continue past first boss, and they have just as much right to finish as people signing up |
| 15:58.46 | nevcairiel | so the problem is clearly exagerated |
| 15:59.00 | Simca_ | are you queuing DPS? |
| 15:59.02 | mckenziemc | (7:57:54 AM) _Kee: once you join one group, you cannot join another, so you don't leave |
| 15:59.03 | mckenziemc | you fail to acknowledge the many reasons someone might leave |
| 15:59.05 | nevcairiel | nah, tank |
| 15:59.09 | nevcairiel | or healer |
| 15:59.12 | nevcairiel | dps takes for ever |
| 15:59.23 | Simca_ | doesn't seem to be a big problem for tank/healer. i only encounter the issue when queueing dps on my alts |
| 15:59.51 | Simca_ | isn't usually a problem for big groups either, the system seems to prioritize new groups when i go with lots of guildies |
| 15:59.53 | nevcairiel | which would seem even odder, there is only two tanks and one leaving will definitely prompt an immediate re-fill |
| 16:00.04 | Simca_ | probably since it can't fit us all |
| 16:00.34 | _Kee | roles on lfr/rhc are pure visual, I used to tank heroic dungeons and LFR as warlock, but I can't ever check tank role |
| 16:00.57 | mckenziemc | different problem |
| 16:01.00 | _Kee | and person who choses "tank" usually plays as dps anyway |
| 16:01.11 | _Kee | and even if he tried to play tank, he would be unable to tank me out |
| 16:01.23 | nevcairiel | you have ne ver met an actual tank, have you |
| 16:01.27 | Simca_ | those hybrids don't exist now, iirc |
| 16:01.36 | _Kee | almost never on LFR/RHC |
| 16:01.37 | nevcairiel | there is no chance any dps can take threat away from a tank |
| 16:01.56 | _Kee | I used to have like 400-700% threat |
| 16:02.02 | Simca_ | he's talking about back when warlocks had the 500% threat modifier in a permanent demo form |
| 16:02.10 | nevcairiel | thats like 3 expansions ago? |
| 16:02.13 | Simca_ | i don't know why though, since they removed that, there is no more issue |
| 16:02.15 | foxlit | And walk uphill borh ways in the snow. |
| 16:02.55 | foxlit | LFR tuning has been sad for a few expansions now, though |
| 16:03.26 | nevcairiel | yeah i usually onyl do it once to make the armory give me a green checkmark and never go in again |
| 16:03.35 | nevcairiel | although stupid ursoc thing has me farming it until eternity, it appears |
| 16:14.12 | Simca_ | bloodthirsty instinct? |
| 16:17.10 | Gnarfoz | no, HAA |
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| 17:16.47 | zenzelezz | "Because you liked The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies: Avengers, Age of Ultron - Sons of Anarchy - Hannibal - Cowboys & Aliens - Home Alone" |
| 17:16.58 | zenzelezz | that movie must have had some hidden meanings that I didn't notice |
| 17:32.48 | Simca_ | lol home alone |
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| 18:02.20 | Aftermathh | Any oUF users here? |
| 18:10.57 | _Kee | Just got 7th legendberry: First dps BiS one, yay! Finally :) |
| 18:12.36 | _Kee | from regular mythic arcway boss. |
| 18:37.43 | ccox | Cairenn: kittens and puppies, living togetherâ¦. awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. |
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| 19:18.13 | netameta | Is there a way to reset button ? say i have a button that only has texture for Pushed/Highlited, at some point i use button:SetButtonState('PUSHED', true); now i want to reverse this) |
| 19:18.50 | netameta | i tried button:SetButtonState('NORMAL',true); and 'NORMAL' but it wont revert the button |
| 19:18.57 | Semlar | you don't normally use SetButtonState unless you're trying to simulate a click on a button that someone isn't actually clicking |
| 19:21.50 | netameta | i am using button in a list and i simulate "select" in that list semlar |
| 19:22.19 | netameta | Its a flux scrolldown list of buttons |
| 19:22.37 | Semlar | if this is a button that's under your mouse, you shouldn't have to do this |
| 19:22.53 | netameta | what do you mean ? |
| 19:23.08 | Semlar | if you mouse over a button, it's automatically highlighted, you don't need to fake a button click |
| 19:23.19 | Semlar | that's what that function is for |
| 19:23.52 | netameta | yea it is automatically highlited, but when its clicked i want it to stay highlited (as if this row was selected) |
| 19:24.42 | Semlar | the second argument tells it to lock the button |
| 19:25.01 | netameta | lock the button to stay as pushed right ? |
| 19:25.23 | Semlar | if you want to unlock it you just don't pass a second argument |
| 19:25.36 | Semlar | or set it to false |
| 19:26.04 | Semlar | SetButtonState('NORMAL') should revert it |
| 19:30.24 | znf | Life in the < 2000 rating bracket in Overwatch is so bad :D |
| 19:30.36 | netameta | I removed the lock, and normal still dont reset it, i wonder if its because i dont have normal texture set ? |
| 19:30.40 | znf | I just got POTG as zenyatta by killing Rhein |
| 19:32.30 | netameta | Semlar, yap, normal wont do ..mmm |
| 19:35.57 | netameta | well when i do button:GetState() it says normal .. so it must be because i dont have a texture |
| 19:38.26 | Semlar | if you're creating the button in xml and you literally didn't create a NormalTexture tag for it, you could try creating a blank one |
| 19:39.48 | foxlit | stop messing with button states and use a checkbutton. |
| 19:40.16 | Semlar | that would make more sense |
| 19:40.39 | mckenziemc | sense? what's that |
| 19:40.54 | netameta | foxlit, Did not know of checkbuttons will search those |
| 19:43.10 | netameta | semlar empty NormalTexture was the solution |
| 19:43.14 | netameta | thanks |
| 19:45.08 | Semlar | checkbuttons are probably more appropriate for creating a list of buttons and you want to keep track of which ones are selected |
| 19:45.37 | Semlar | setting the button state is more for changing how something looks |
| 19:46.21 | netameta | CheckButtons are like checkboxes ? |
| 19:46.44 | Semlar | yeah, the checkboxes in the interface are checkbuttons |
| 19:48.01 | netameta | Alrighty |
| 19:56.28 | Cairenn | ccox: inorite? |
| 19:58.27 | Cairenn | The video is just too cute for words :) |
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| 20:57.36 | netameta | Can a button have more textures and text other then <NormalText name="$parentText" inherits="GameFontNormal" justifyH="LEFT"> |
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| 21:25.31 | Semlar | you can create whatever regions you want |
| 21:26.40 | Semlar | same as any other frame, you just use <Texture> |
| 21:28.40 | netameta | And how will i access it if is inherit ? cant find info about those $parentName, $parentVariable, $parentLevel ... |
| 21:30.23 | Semlar | you'll have to look at the template you're inheriting to see how it's constructed |
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| 21:31.16 | nevcairiel | $parent gets automatically replaced by the parents frame name, so if you have a frame that you call "MySuperFrame", and one of its child frames calls itself "$parentName", then it becomes "MySuperFrameName" |
| 21:31.46 | Semlar | if parent doesn't have a name it will just be nil |
| 21:33.42 | netameta | AHH! |
| 21:33.52 | netameta | and i was sure that those are set things |
| 21:34.19 | netameta | like $parentName, will be one thing but really can use $parent+anything |
| 21:34.21 | Semlar | the majority of addon authors don't use xml at all so it's going to be harder to find info on it |
| 21:35.22 | Semlar | there are plenty of examples in the ui though |
| 21:38.58 | netameta | Thanks semlar |
| 21:39.53 | netameta | One little thing is there a way to get to a child from its parent ? instead of doing $parentName for the child can i do parentButton:findChild(achild) |
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| 21:44.59 | Semlar | in lua you can call frame:GetChildren() |
| 21:46.07 | Semlar | your example doesn't really make sense because it implies you already have a reference to the child |
| 21:53.09 | Semlar | in xml you can use the parentKey="key" attribute to create another way to access the child from parent.key |
| 22:39.25 | plaw | tickles Wobin |
| 22:49.01 | p3lim | TheDanW: You aware of the issue with :SetUnit() on model widgets running too long? |
| 23:09.34 | netameta | <NormalTexture file="Interface\AddOns\cl\icons\MyCustomIcon"/> inside button works fine, however same thing inside button -> layers -> Layer level="ARTWORK" wont work |
| 23:09.53 | Aftermathh | P3lim, i'm using a custom aura filter, is it possible to make a "all filter" instead of just class? |
| 23:12.48 | Semlar | NormalTexture is a button attribute, if you want to create a texture then you use <Texture> |
| 23:14.37 | Semlar | netameta: https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/live/ActionButtonTemplate.xml |
| 23:16.00 | netameta | Semlar, I want to create a texture inside a button (i am able to use normal files ) i cannot use custom files |
| 23:16.46 | Semlar | read that file to see how it's done |
| 23:18.01 | Semlar | they're creating several textures and font strings on the button |
| 23:18.31 | p3lim | Aftermathh: what do you mean by "all filter"? |
| 23:19.04 | netameta | Semlar, I have read it. they dont use a custom file as texture mate |
| 23:19.19 | Aftermathh | Like first, Demon Hunter etc.. then a general / all filter that counts for all classes. |
| 23:19.21 | netameta | they use the interface ones, not Interface\addons |
| 23:20.49 | Semlar | of course they're using interface files, just use a different file path |
| 23:21.03 | netameta | Semlar, when i use a custom image like: file="Interface\AddOns\addonName\filename" i get an error |
| 23:21.18 | Semlar | what error |
| 23:21.19 | netameta | when i use the interface normal images it works fine |
| 23:22.01 | Semlar | did you restart the game after you added the texture |
| 23:22.28 | Semlar | the game won't load any new files while it's running |
| 23:23.15 | netameta | attempt to index global mymode_minimapbutton' (a nil value) |
| 23:23.32 | netameta | exited and reset server times mate |
| 23:23.38 | Semlar | that's not from your xml |
| 23:23.42 | Semlar | i don't know what that's from |
| 23:24.01 | netameta | yea i know its unrelated error, |
| 23:24.10 | netameta | I am using an image that in other place works fine |
| 23:24.11 | Semlar | your texture would just fail silently if it couldn't be loaded |
| 23:24.48 | Semlar | post your code |
| 23:24.52 | netameta | Sure |
| 23:25.05 | Semlar | use hastebin or something |
| 23:26.33 | Aftermathh | p3lim http://imgur.com/a/3pXqi something like this :) |
| 23:26.45 | netameta | Semlar, http://pastebin.com/7wb876ab |
| 23:27.11 | netameta | the issue is at line 7 |
| 23:27.36 | netameta | when i swap line 7 with some normal interface texture it works fine |
| 23:27.40 | Maldivia | ... who takes screenshots of code... |
| 23:28.14 | Semlar | well you have /> at the end of the texture tag so i'm kind of surprised it's working at all |
| 23:28.50 | Aftermathh | Maldivia, i dont have any issue i just wanted to show him what i meant. |
| 23:28.50 | Semlar | that should be closing the tag |
| 23:28.51 | netameta | ffs |
| 23:28.57 | netameta | seriusly |
| 23:29.00 | netameta | .. second time |
| 23:29.04 | netameta | half a day |
| 23:29.35 | Semlar | i hope it's not indented like this in your editor because the spacing is all over the place |
| 23:30.35 | netameta | Semlar, nope in my editor it looks fine |
| 23:30.43 | netameta | dont know what happend |
| 23:30.48 | Semlar | it's probably just mixing tabs and spaces or something |
| 23:30.53 | netameta | bahh again half a day on a nonesens |
| 23:31.30 | netameta | I blame you semlar OFC |
| 23:32.11 | Semlar | i'm going to pass the blame on to torhal instead |
| 23:32.23 | mckenziemc | makes Semlar clean. |
| 23:32.25 | Aftermathh | http://pastebin.com/WXka5TSJ |
| 23:32.27 | Semlar | i haven't blamed him for anything in a while |
| 23:32.39 | Aftermathh | Should not be any spacing |
| 23:33.11 | netameta | Thanks semlar for the help |
| 23:33.18 | Semlar | sure |
| 23:35.20 | mckenziemc | you know you could blame Torhal yourself, don't need Semlar to do it |
| 23:36.14 | p3lim | Aftermathh: have the "all" part outside of the class specific list then do: return A.CustomAuraFilter[CLASS].Buffs[name] or ALL[name] |
| 23:36.27 | p3lim | two tables basically |
| 23:36.48 | Aftermathh | Alright, thanks! :D |
| 23:45.02 | netameta | I assume <TexCoords left="0.01562500" right="0.76562500" top="0.00781250" bottom="0.38281250"/> is used to place certain texture part in a certain place - where can i read how it works ? |
| 23:57.19 | p3lim | netameta: it's to crop images |
| 23:57.36 | netameta | i now understand that |
| 23:57.46 | p3lim | can also be used to flip them etc |
| 23:58.13 | Semlar | the numbers are how far into the original texture that it starts reading from, as a percentage of the whole |
| 23:58.28 | p3lim | the 4 argument version sure |
| 23:59.14 | p3lim | netameta: bottom and right are a bit misleading however |
| 23:59.28 | p3lim | left and right is how far from the left, top and bottom is how far from the top |
| 23:59.36 | p3lim | it's relative to the image edge |