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| 00:56.08 | mckenziemc | spider fight :o |
| 01:04.01 | Kinesia | Miles vs Parker. Go. |
| 01:17.59 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Kinesia |
| 01:17.59 | purl | says "boot to the head" and knocks Kinesia over |
| 01:26.17 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:42.16 | foxlit | (and it's gone) |
| 02:04.02 | znf | I'm sure there is at least ONE quest designer who wasn't loved by his parents or something |
| 02:04.23 | znf | hint: it's the same guy who makes quest objects interactable with a cast-bar that breaks on attack |
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| 02:09.23 | foxlit | I vote we add a znf-specific feature that prevents him from interacting with any quest objects while in combat. |
| 02:10.15 | znf | don't give that guy ideas |
| 02:13.34 | mckenziemc | makes all of znf's spells break on being attacked. |
| 02:13.51 | znf | ...like I haven't seen that before |
| 02:17.09 | mckenziemc | it could be worse |
| 02:17.14 | mckenziemc | they could only be usable out of combat |
| 02:17.39 | znf | We have that. |
| 02:18.44 | znf | it was made by the same unloved guy |
| 02:20.52 | Funkeh` | TheDanW, I see the minimap recording button (mac client) is gone, is that an intentional change, and why |
| 02:21.12 | mckenziemc | all your spells? |
| 02:21.18 | Semlar | why would you want to record your minimap |
| 02:21.52 | Funkeh` | it's a minimap button for screen recording |
| 02:22.13 | znf | Also, I hope whoever decided to remove Mind Sear in it's previous form gets attacked by a million 1 HP spiders |
| 02:23.18 | Semlar | they should give shadow priests barrage and hunters can get surrender to seagulls |
| 02:23.43 | znf | It's incredibly stupid |
| 02:23.47 | Torhal | Kinesia: At least be consistent: "Miles vs Peter" or "Morales vs Parker" |
| 02:24.01 | znf | you can't aoe unless you place Shadow Word: Pain on your target then Mind Flay |
| 02:24.13 | znf | but the SWP target dies too fast to be able to actually aoe the rest of the pack |
| 02:24.29 | TheDanW | Funkeh`: not sure, i'll ask the mac team on monday |
| 02:24.33 | mckenziemc | feeds Torhal to the cellar spiders since they failed to capture the other spider. |
| 02:24.56 | Funkeh` | TheDanW, also I'm not sure but it *seems* like you have started gutting the built in voice chat? |
| 02:25.15 | Semlar | doesn't the launcher have voice chat or something |
| 02:25.23 | znf | I guess it doesn't really make sense to have a WoW in-game chat with the b.net one available |
| 02:25.26 | TheDanW | most of it didn't function |
| 02:25.32 | Funkeh` | bnet has voice chat yes |
| 02:26.03 | Funkeh` | but afaik the bnet one is 1 on 1 |
| 02:26.15 | znf | I tought you could create groups? o.o |
| 02:26.35 | znf | Funkeh`, you can "Create channel" |
| 02:26.58 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/N2ICmca.png |
| 02:27.32 | Torhal | groups mckenziemc with znf. |
| 02:27.42 | Funkeh` | TheDanW, do you know if the plan is to strip it entirely? |
| 02:27.57 | znf | tough, I guess the in-game one was working in pugs, for example (in-game groups) rather than having to set it up externally in the b.net app |
| 02:28.29 | Semlar | i have never seen anyone use the in-game voice chat for anything |
| 02:29.01 | mckenziemc | i've used it a few times, a long long time ago :o |
| 02:29.34 | znf | me neither |
| 02:30.41 | mckenziemc | is that because combat kept breaking it, znf? |
| 02:31.04 | TheDanW | it's being audited, most of it hasn't been looked at in >10 years |
| 02:31.10 | Semlar | maybe a couple times when it was first implemented in BC |
| 02:31.37 | Funkeh` | just save yourself the effort and remove it |
| 02:32.11 | TheDanW | fortunately i don't have to work on that ;p |
| 02:33.24 | Funkeh` | this pools.lua looks interesting, I assume we could use it for widget recycling for those not using acegui |
| 02:34.19 | TheDanW | they've actually been in for awhile, but it was in Util.lua |
| 02:34.29 | TheDanW | artifacts, flight map and some other systems leverage |
| 02:34.32 | TheDanW | them |
| 02:36.23 | foxlit | garrison ui doesn't reset things properly when recycling. |
| 02:36.33 | TheDanW | which part? |
| 02:36.41 | foxlit | landing page cooldowns, iirc. It's been a while. |
| 02:37.07 | TheDanW | the cooldown overlay missing? |
| 02:38.35 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/WDF4f6n8 |
| 02:40.14 | TheDanW | i believe that was a C level rendering bug, cooldowns weren't notifying their render batch that their verts were enabled/disabled under some conditions, hiding would force the reset because showing causes a render batch update |
| 02:40.50 | TheDanW | but i guess if the shipmentsTotal variable was nil it would never reset the cooldown either |
| 02:41.26 | foxlit | it's the latter, I think -- if you recycle an active timer onto a building which has no shipments, it'll show the old swipe. |
| 02:41.40 | TheDanW | makes sense, fixed, thanks! |
| 02:42.09 | Funkeh` | fixing bugs by bringing up random talking points |
| 02:43.17 | znf | I will never, for the love of god, figure out why someone tought USB Type B was a good idea |
| 02:43.38 | Funkeh` | was it not before C was a thing |
| 02:44.14 | znf | yeah, but... why did they ever use Type B? not the Micro-B, mind you |
| 02:44.35 | znf | I'm talking about the big square one that doesn't seem to have *any* advantage over Type A full-form |
| 02:44.38 | znf | other than the fact that it's square |
| 02:44.39 | Funkeh` | there was a micro B? god so out of touch |
| 02:44.44 | foxlit | they don't want A-to-A to exist. |
| 02:45.22 | znf | Funkeh`, microUSB is oficially called type b micro |
| 02:45.33 | znf | foxlit, why? |
| 02:45.37 | Funkeh` | that's probably what I'm thinking of |
| 02:46.12 | mckenziemc | replaces znf's Xal'atath with Tuure, Beacon of the Naaru. |
| 02:46.24 | znf | mckenziemc, good, I hate that fucking dagger |
| 02:46.37 | znf | ...here's somethign I didn't know |
| 02:46.40 | znf | there's apparently a microA, too |
| 02:46.59 | znf | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/A_Micro-A_USB_port.jpeg/800px-A_Micro-A_USB_port.jpeg |
| 02:47.34 | znf | but, anyway, Type B standard, WHY? |
| 02:47.40 | znf | also, where the fuck to get one at 4:40 am |
| 02:48.29 | mckenziemc | znf: so that one device was clearly the master, one was clearly the slave, and the slave wouldn't try to push power into the master |
| 02:49.00 | znf | mckenziemc, how does that make sense? |
| 02:49.51 | znf | the plugs were standardised before OTG was a thing |
| 02:49.52 | mckenziemc | how doesn't it make sense? |
| 02:50.12 | znf | and Type B still has the power pins enabled |
| 02:50.26 | mckenziemc | for receiving |
| 02:51.09 | znf | I'm pretty sure USB doesn't care who's sending/receiving? |
| 02:51.46 | mckenziemc | pretty sure that's incorrect |
| 02:55.10 | Funkeh` | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ptr/Blizzard_Deprecated/Deprecated_7_2_0.lua |
| 02:55.25 | Funkeh` | blizz decided to be a nice guy :O |
| 02:57.17 | znf | Cool |
| 03:00.53 | foxlit | would be even more awesome if they snuck those into the addon environment only if with pre-7.2 toc. |
| 03:01.15 | foxlit | s/if with/if the addon was using a/ |
| 03:05.09 | znf | they should trigger a deprecated warning in the client :D |
| 03:24.32 | mckenziemc | deprecates znf. |
| 03:25.37 | znf | well, I guess it doesn't matter that I don't have a usb-type-b cable, I'm missing a soldering iron to short these anyway http://i.imgur.com/msuQpwP.png |
| 03:25.38 | znf | :-/ |
| 03:27.21 | mckenziemc | how can you not have a type B cable? |
| 03:27.42 | mckenziemc | they used to come with everything |
| 03:27.57 | znf | used to* |
| 03:28.10 | znf | now everything comes with micro USB |
| 03:28.16 | znf | I've seen printers that come with micro USB |
| 03:28.29 | mckenziemc | the old free cables didn't poof out of existence |
| 03:29.42 | znf | they did for me |
| 03:29.54 | znf | I left them in storage at my parent's when I last moved |
| 03:30.12 | znf | BAH |
| 03:30.35 | znf | Recovering the firmware on this also needs it to be connected to a car (or a 12V power source on it's odb pins) |
| 03:30.43 | znf | fuck that, I'm not going outside when it's -10°C |
| 03:30.46 | znf | it can wait until spring |
| 03:31.26 | mckenziemc | remember all those wall warts of various voltages? |
| 03:35.11 | znf | no? |
| 03:35.25 | znf | googles wall wart |
| 03:35.51 | znf | oh |
| 03:35.52 | znf | mkay |
| 03:36.13 | znf | most devices have an internal voltage regulator |
| 03:36.34 | znf | as long as the polarity matches, and the wattage is not under the requirement, they mostly work |
| 03:36.45 | znf | you can use a 12V power supply on a 5V switch for example |
| 03:41.08 | tz | yeahhhhhhhh check that there actually is a regulator present |
| 03:41.48 | tz | if it's a cheap device like a shitty USB hub half the time they throw their input directly onto the VCC of connected devices |
| 03:41.58 | tz | has been hit by that in the past |
| 03:48.50 | mckenziemc | and why do you need a soldering iron for that |
| 03:50.24 | mckenziemc | you need the points permanently shorted? |
| 04:06.35 | znf | mckenziemc, for a few minutes, yeah |
| 04:08.22 | mckenziemc | odd |
| 04:08.31 | mckenziemc | what is that thing? |
| 04:14.44 | znf | mckenziemc, mckenziemc a diagnose interface for cars |
| 04:14.52 | znf | was flashed with the wrong firmware, and now it's dead :P |
| 04:14.57 | znf | so I need to put it into bootloader mode |
| 04:17.29 | tz | why does autodesk have to fuck up everything they touch |
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| 06:26.31 | Simca | oh my god every time |
| 06:26.50 | Simca | my hunter has 1 piece of gear above 870, her boots (910, great legendary) |
| 06:26.55 | Simca | open weekly cache |
| 06:27.03 | Simca | get 875 socketed indestructible boots |
| 06:27.16 | Simca | any other piece in any other slot: huge upgrade |
| 06:27.22 | Simca | every freaking time |
| 06:53.11 | tz | sounds about right |
| 06:53.25 | tz | I kept getting bracers, after having those already legendary |
| 06:53.42 | tz | nowadays I don't even bother though :s |
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| 07:11.20 | Semlar | i mostly got hats |
| 07:11.41 | Semlar | although it does give you a selection to choose from |
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| 13:31.14 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47rlqfQgkM4 |
| 13:31.20 | karl_w_w | that's actually creepy as fuck |
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| 14:20.05 | VIad | if I cap both my weapons at 54, can I use AP freely again on one weapon? |
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| 14:42.20 | karl_w_w | huh, so paul's mccartney's middle name is paul |
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| 16:20.39 | znf | do M+ dungeons reward essences for the legendary upgrade quest? |
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| 17:02.12 | znf | Where the hell did all the boost groups go |
| 17:02.16 | znf | they all boost only freakin MoS |
| 17:04.23 | kullervo | because it's fast |
| 17:07.29 | mckenziemc | boosts znf into space. |
| 17:57.18 | znf | "at tich link achiev" |
| 17:57.32 | znf | what fucking achievement do you want for a normal raid, first week of the new raid? |
| 17:57.48 | fewyn | you need to have already cleared it |
| 17:57.58 | fewyn | i don't care if it's the first week |
| 17:58.22 | mckenziemc | fewyn: still using your 3D printer? |
| 17:58.31 | fewyn | let's not talk about the 3d printer |
| 17:58.37 | mckenziemc | heh... |
| 17:58.44 | fewyn | i want to throw it off a cliff |
| 17:58.46 | fewyn | into the ocean |
| 17:59.04 | fewyn | i should have saved an extra couple hundred and bought something with a wider name brand |
| 17:59.12 | fewyn | like i was originally going to |
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| 18:04.47 | fewyn | i forgot lunar festival started |
| 18:04.57 | fewyn | guess i'll do that this weekend since i have to do it all over on my new account |
| 18:08.18 | znf | oh yes, they want the achievement for clear |
| 18:08.22 | znf | stabs self |
| 18:08.49 | znf | now I remember why I haven't logged on for 2 months |
| 18:09.01 | znf | can't find a group for M+, can't find a group for raids |
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| 18:29.34 | Jaka_ | Hi. Is this the right place to ask LuaUI wow related questions? |
| 18:32.24 | Thunder_Child | In theory, yes. |
| 18:32.50 | Jaka_ | trying to force party ui to put me (healer) on top, <party2> 2nd, and <party3> 3rd and to keep it that way when i go in and out of arena for the purpose for macros (dispell player, party1, party2).. it keeps changing every time. |
| 18:33.30 | Jaka_ | or well, party1 and party2 (not party2, party3). |
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| 19:16.29 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: was nameplateFriendlyClickThrough removed again? |
| 19:29.28 | Stanzilla | nvm, it's a function |
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| 20:55.08 | mckenziemc | makes Stanzilla into a function of coffee. |
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| 21:44.47 | Kinesia | World server down for everyone? |
| 21:45.12 | _Kee | calls Stanzilla ( "player", "cappuccino", LE_STANZILLA_ICED ); |
| 21:45.38 | mukunda | how do i have a chatbox support foreign language characters? |
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| 21:57.41 | Seerah | The font used has to support those characters |
| 21:58.15 | mukunda | right but with the normal chatbox it seems to switch to a compatible font when those characters are used |
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| 22:13.07 | fewyn | so the AQ event stuff was fun |
| 22:16.14 | kd3 | though the horde is up 2.1M resources... |
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| 22:18.57 | fewyn | i am horde :D |
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| 22:57.49 | foxlit | It's mildly annoying that dbm pulls (or whatever kids use nowadays) have absolutely no external notifications. |
| 23:01.15 | Stanzilla | you mean like spamming rw or raidchat? |
| 23:01.33 | foxlit | A single /ra Pull in 5 sec... message would be appreciated. |
| 23:09.50 | mckenziemc | "Get DBM in 5... 4... 3..." |
| 23:10.18 | Thunder_Child | That's how I read it as well. |
| 23:13.26 | mckenziemc | then you might be alone |
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| 23:19.32 | Thunder_Child | I hope so. |
| 23:22.24 | Ssateneth | Anyone know of any working viewport addons? |
| 23:23.00 | Ssateneth | I want to drag some addon UI elements outside of the rendered world so I don't have so much shit onscreen blocking all the fire I'm trying to dodge |
| 23:25.59 | tz | WorldFrame:SetUserPlaced(false) |
| 23:26.00 | tz | WorldFrame:ClearAllPoints() |
| 23:26.00 | tz | WorldFrame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", 0, -12) |
| 23:26.00 | tz | WorldFrame:SetPoint("BOTTOMRIGHT", 0, 146) |
| 23:27.28 | tz | I wish I could set up a second window for UI, tbh |
| 23:27.36 | tz | on screen #2 |
| 23:27.39 | tz | or wherever |
| 23:28.12 | tz | that said, wider viewport = wider fov |
