| 00:19.11 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: curious. I disconnected the 2nd screen through Windows' control panel, rebooted, and the GPU went into P8 on its own. So far, so expected. I then added it back through Nvidia control panel (which I've never done before, ever), and it now goes into P8 with both screens. Wonder if that actually made a difference or if it was just random. :D |
| 00:20.01 | Gnarfoz | "current clock" in P8 is also actually 316 MHz, not the 772 MHz nvidia inspector's OC window shows (and fails to override) |
| 00:20.22 | Stanzilla | I'd say random |
| 00:20.31 | Gnarfoz | I'm inclined to say the same. :D |
| 00:20.55 | Gnarfoz | next step would have been DDU+driver reinstall, but I guess it works for now |
| 00:22.07 | Gnarfoz | I can probably up the temp for engaging the fans to 55°C now, because in P8 it doesn't fight the fans at idle |
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| 00:49.50 | znf | wtf is p8 |
| 00:50.25 | mckenziemc | power state for his video card it seems |
| 00:51.18 | Gnarfoz | P8, P5, P2, P0, in increasing order of performance |
| 00:51.23 | Gnarfoz | older cards apparently had P12, too |
| 00:51.58 | mckenziemc | are they ACPI standards? |
| 00:52.24 | Gnarfoz | I very much doubt that |
| 00:54.04 | mckenziemc | looks like it may be that ACPI defines that there are levels, but what they mean is implementation dependent |
| 00:54.13 | Ssateneth | did ebay's site just go to shit? |
| 00:54.13 | mckenziemc | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface |
| 00:54.22 | Ssateneth | everything is just text for me, in chrome and IE |
| 00:55.40 | znf | Man, these days you can only find boost groups in the premade finder for m+ :-/ |
| 00:56.03 | Ssateneth | stop searching for maw groups |
| 00:56.09 | Ssateneth | you'll find non-boosts |
| 00:56.23 | znf | I don't search for maw groups :-| |
| 00:56.25 | mckenziemc | do you recommend paw groups instead? |
| 00:56.28 | Ssateneth | i dont give my maw keys to carry groups, i save for guild members |
| 00:56.28 | znf | I'm listing all groups |
| 00:56.39 | znf | I just want to do anything |
| 00:58.07 | Ssateneth | theres a fair amount of people -asking- for carries |
| 00:58.22 | znf | I don't have a group to provide carries :P |
| 00:58.28 | Ssateneth | https://gyazo.com/154d964b7808a340aeba2e0b536490e4 |
| 00:58.59 | Ssateneth | is what is showing for me |
| 00:59.27 | Ssateneth | also seems like fresh groups listed owards the top, groups queued longer towards the bototm (they're almost always full except for 1 person) |
| 01:01.13 | znf | those at the bottom always need a healer :P |
| 01:05.33 | znf | oh, I'm a tard |
| 01:05.36 | znf | I just spent 33k on flasks |
| 01:05.44 | znf | I tought I was buying 5x1, I bought 5x5 |
| 01:06.25 | Ssateneth | you thought you were gonna spent 6.6k per flask? |
| 01:06.33 | Ssateneth | you WANTED to get ripped off but got a hel lof a deal? :P |
| 01:07.40 | znf | I looked at the price per item |
| 01:07.43 | znf | not price per stack :P |
| 01:07.48 | znf | was ~800-something |
| 01:07.52 | Stanzilla | idyet |
| 01:08.08 | znf | doesn't matter, I'll use them eventually anyway :P |
| 01:13.03 | znf | Stanzilla, when to use voidform with lotv? |
| 01:13.38 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 01:13.42 | Stanzilla | it always was +10 |
| 01:13.49 | znf | mkay |
| 01:13.54 | Stanzilla | might have changed |
| 01:17.26 | znf | meh, 430k dps @ ursoc normal |
| 01:17.30 | znf | without s2m |
| 01:24.06 | tz | there's no commandline arg to point at different interface+wtf directories, is there? |
| 01:27.53 | Gnarfoz | that seems like an odd thing to expect to exist |
| 01:28.24 | tz | nah, makes perfect sense |
| 01:28.31 | tz | testing dev in a clean env |
| 01:28.58 | Gnarfoz | except... Blizz are not addon devs |
| 01:29.17 | tz | thus my expectation of it being nonexistent ;) |
| 01:29.32 | Gnarfoz | just make a copy of wow? :p |
| 01:29.59 | tz | yep, was hoping there was a simpler way :p |
| 01:41.25 | znf | Stanzilla, wow, so nice to NOT die at the end of every boss fight |
| 01:42.14 | Stanzilla | yea |
| 01:42.38 | Ssateneth | easier repair costs |
| 01:42.40 | Ssateneth | easier food costs |
| 01:43.07 | Ssateneth | s2m should be a fun gamble, not a mandatory "do it and you're ok, dont and suck" |
| 01:43.48 | Ssateneth | I miss MSI's blue and black theme |
| 01:43.51 | Ssateneth | Everything is red now |
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| 01:46.13 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: drivers definitely fixed the permanent high click situation with multimonitor ( at least with two ), but in my experience it can get stuck at high clocks if some specific apps are running, it's a bit annoying |
| 01:47.22 | nevcairiel | With three screens and one of those running 144Hz on top, it likes to still sit at high clocks though |
| 01:48.17 | Gnarfoz | I only have 2x 60 Hz, but it got stuck anyway |
| 01:48.47 | Gnarfoz | (nvidia control panel complained about flux running when I went to check out what the "surround settings" are, so rumours of it affecting things might not be far-fetched) |
| 01:50.42 | nevcairiel | It's not like I hear the GPU doing things when idle at max clock, but I can't help but wonder if it's bad for it to be perma hot |
| 01:51.08 | Ssateneth | nevcairiel, high clocks if monitor at 144hz, low at 120hz |
| 01:51.10 | Ssateneth | for me |
| 01:51.38 | nevcairiel | On the other hand it's semi-passive until like 60C, so it would hopefully be designed to run at that all the time |
| 01:52.18 | Ssateneth | Silicon is pretty hardy |
| 01:52.24 | Gnarfoz | I only noticed because I was wondering why the temps kept creeping up to where the fans start kicking in (in their dumb pulsing mode) |
| 01:52.36 | Ssateneth | Good for constant ~90c operation |
| 01:52.43 | nevcairiel | Pulsing mode sounds annoying and possibly audible |
| 01:52.55 | Ssateneth | If you're overclocking, temperatures obviously affect stability |
| 01:53.06 | Gnarfoz | only if all HDDs are spun down and you listen VERY closely ^^ |
| 01:53.31 | Gnarfoz | CPU fan is louder anyway |
| 01:53.34 | Gnarfoz | or case fan |
| 01:53.46 | Gnarfoz | or something. too many moving parts! |
| 01:54.21 | Ssateneth | bah, I got no moving parts except PSU fan and water pump |
| 01:54.31 | Gnarfoz | (and for some reason, the radiator next to me also makes noises when heating. it's a competition.) |
| 01:54.36 | Ssateneth | could get a newer PSU to reduce noise but thats it |
| 01:54.37 | nevcairiel | I finally found the noise in my htpc, it's damn fan was dying, but while it was doing that, it sounded like coil whine, totally freaking me out |
| 01:54.47 | znf | I finally found the noise in my house |
| 01:54.52 | znf | when my speakers go into stand-by mode |
| 01:54.57 | znf | they emit a high pitched noise |
| 01:55.00 | Ssateneth | coil whine doesnt bother me |
| 01:55.21 | Ssateneth | humming from speakers do though and I have no clue how to fix speaker hum |
| 01:55.43 | znf | this is annoyingly loud |
| 01:55.45 | znf | not coil whine |
| 01:55.59 | znf | apparently it's a known issue for this system :-/ |
| 01:56.06 | znf | wish I read about it before I bought them |
| 01:56.39 | nevcairiel | Speaker hum can have various sources, without knowing where it's from... |
| 01:58.25 | nevcairiel | And unfortunately many amps "click" to some degree when turning off, resulting in a turn off noise |
| 01:58.44 | nevcairiel | Or is it permanent during standby? |
| 01:59.01 | znf | they put themselves into stand-by when they detect no sound (or very low sound) coming from the PC |
| 01:59.12 | znf | when they go into that mode, they produce a high pitch |
| 01:59.29 | znf | they have a wheel for volume/power control |
| 01:59.40 | znf | even if you turn them off from the "wheel", they still do that noise |
| 01:59.41 | znf | https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R22635SCIIRWBK/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewpnt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B0105Y2T5Y#R22635SCIIRWBK |
| 01:59.50 | znf | >Annoyingly though these speakers give out a quiet hissing noise when I'm not playing anything through them. This happens even without any audio cable plugged into the back. I've tried plugging into different power outlets but still the same problem. |
| 02:00.46 | znf | https://www.dropbox.com/s/c2yyiqxzbjwfvpe/logitech.m4a?dl=0 |
| 02:00.54 | znf | ha, some guy even made an audio recording :D |
| 02:01.35 | Iriel | The quiet hiss is just noise, it's normal in any amplified system |
| 02:01.49 | znf | Iriel, this happens only after they put themselves in stand-by |
| 02:02.05 | Gnarfoz | mine do a humming noise all the time they're on, that's why I mostly don't use them. :D |
| 02:02.10 | Iriel | The slight hiss or a high pitch squeak? |
| 02:02.13 | Gnarfoz | (when they go into standby, it goes away) |
| 02:02.19 | znf | ie: when they don't detect any sound from the input for about 30 minutes |
| 02:02.40 | znf | they don't have any random coil sound/whine when they're idle but not in stand-by |
| 02:02.52 | znf | it's actually the reverse of what you're saying |
| 02:03.09 | znf | when the amplifier works (I'm assuming they turn the amplifier off when they go in stand-by), there's no pitch/noise etc. |
| 02:03.13 | Iriel | Often a humming noise is poorly isolated mains current (especially when it's at 60hz (or 50hz in those countries that use that)) |
| 02:03.41 | znf | I'm very well aware of what you're saying |
| 02:03.50 | znf | I tried different outlets around the house |
| 02:03.54 | znf | I even moved. Twice. |
| 02:04.00 | znf | like whole new towns |
| 02:04.02 | znf | wait, no |
| 02:04.04 | znf | I moved 3 times |
| 02:04.17 | Iriel | The hum would be poor electronics in the device, not your electricity |
| 02:04.34 | znf | I've learned to live with it: |
| 02:04.44 | Iriel | Anyway, if I understand you, it' essentially silent, until it goes "idle", then the noise hiss becomes audiable? |
| 02:04.46 | znf | ie: at night, play something trough it, lower the volume to 0 |
| 02:05.10 | znf | yup, the wheel/controller on the desk has a white LED |
| 02:05.14 | znf | when it goes into stand-by, the led goes dim |
| 02:05.25 | znf | that usually takes about 30 minutes until you played some sound trough it |
| 02:05.43 | Iriel | I wonder if it's disconnecting the input but leaving the amplifier on, rather than holding the input at zero. |
| 02:06.00 | Iriel | (and/or turning off the amplifier) |
| 02:06.07 | znf | dunno |
| 02:07.05 | Iriel | Or it's doing something wierd in the amp/pre-amp stage and changing the gain when it goes idle. |
| 02:07.27 | znf | took me months to figure out what the fuck was wrong with it |
| 02:07.35 | znf | tought it was my computer for a while, tought my PSU was going out |
| 02:07.40 | znf | or the mobo, or something |
| 02:07.54 | znf | then one random night I got pissed off at something and I turned my PC off while sleeping |
| 02:08.06 | znf | then I realised the noise was coming from the subwoofer :D |
| 02:08.32 | Iriel | My sub does auto/on off, but it turns itself the whole way off. |
| 02:10.54 | Iriel | Have you considered getting yourself a tropical fish tank? |
| 02:11.01 | Iriel | The pump hum will be loud enough to mask the hiss |
| 02:11.07 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 02:12.19 | znf | I normally sleep with http://asoftmurmur.com/ |
| 02:12.24 | znf | rain + thunder |
| 02:12.27 | znf | and I sleep like a baby |
| 02:12.55 | mckenziemc | my cheap speakers from my old computer produce noise when the computer's off but still supplying USB power, noise disappears when the computer's running :( |
| 02:13.13 | mckenziemc | they have a USB connector as their power source |
| 02:13.47 | znf | those are $5 speakers :D |
| 02:14.20 | znf | meh |
| 02:14.21 | znf | it's 4am |
| 02:14.24 | znf | I need to wash clothes |
| 02:17.43 | znf | considering my upstairs neighbours have been moving furniture, or something, until 3am, I hope they don't mind my washing machine running at 4 |
| 02:39.53 | fewyn | finding new books to read is hard :/ |
| 02:40.51 | Thunder_Child | ...for you. |
| 02:41.02 | fewyn | i've read a lot of books |
| 02:41.05 | fewyn | so probably |
| 02:41.21 | znf | wooo |
| 02:41.25 | znf | brawler's guild invite |
| 02:41.33 | znf | totally gonna use that /s |
| 02:41.38 | fewyn | i have 305 books on my read shelf on goodreads |
| 02:43.03 | Thunder_Child | I have 300 books in my garage. Those are the ones I don't have room for on my shelves. |
| 02:43.21 | fewyn | i miss having real books :( |
| 02:43.32 | fewyn | i sold all mine off when i moved last time |
| 02:44.01 | Thunder_Child | Yea, I love the feel of a paperback. I refuse to read digital books. |
| 02:44.12 | fewyn | i just don't have room for it anymore |
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| 02:59.49 | foxlit | grandpa Thunder_Child ;) |
| 03:00.10 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: Get off my damn digital lawn. |
| 03:01.09 | znf | nice blizzard <Thunder_Child> I have 300 books in my garage. Those are the ones I don't have room for on my shelves. |
| 03:01.10 | znf | <fewyn> i miss having real books :( |
| 03:01.10 | znf | <fewyn> i sold all mine off when i moved last time |
| 03:01.10 | znf | <Thunder_Child> Yea, I love the feel of a paperback. I refuse to read digital books. |
| 03:01.11 | znf | shit |
| 03:01.29 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/uzikSoA.png |
| 03:01.30 | Mr_Rabies | hardcover or bust |
| 03:02.51 | Mr_Rabies | <Thunder_Child> I have 300 books in my garage. Those are the ones I don't have room for on my shelves. |
| 03:02.57 | foxlit | one giant missing feature: the kindle has a backlight. |
| 03:03.01 | Mr_Rabies | are you tai lopez? |
| 03:03.07 | fewyn | the kindle has a backlight foxlit |
| 03:03.13 | fewyn | oh wait |
| 03:03.14 | fewyn | misread that |
| 03:03.25 | foxlit | (which they claim not to be a backlight, but whatever) |
| 03:04.02 | foxlit | (also the ipad pro screen in nightmode is pretty bearable) |
| 03:04.18 | fewyn | the ipad pro is nice |
| 03:04.25 | fewyn | i have one at work i get to play with |
| 03:04.43 | fewyn | i use the mini 2 for when i'm actually teaching tho for lesson plans |
| 03:07.13 | foxlit | as a video source or just a personal screen? |
| 03:07.34 | fewyn | personal screen for while i'm actually walking and talking to my class |
| 03:19.05 | Iriel | The problem with the iPad pro is it's a tad unweildy for reading |
| 03:19.19 | Iriel | the iPad air is a better experience, IMHO |
| 03:25.12 | Thunder_Child | Same with hardcovers. |
| 03:25.20 | Thunder_Child | Can't one hand one of hthose. |
| 03:25.22 | Thunder_Child | those* |
| 03:26.33 | Iriel | I find being hit in the face with an iPad pro more painful than a hardcover book, probbaly because of how the two end up being held when tired. |
| 03:27.11 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 03:27.12 | fewyn | yeah the pro is real unwieldly |
| 03:27.31 | fewyn | had to use it for a couple weeks while i waited on our replacement mini 2s when the ones we had before died finally |
| 03:28.35 | Mr_Rabies | well then again i'm not really buying hardcovers for regular books usually |
| 03:28.52 | Mr_Rabies | i mostly buy deluxe hardcovers for comics, which tend to have larger page dimensions, etc |
| 03:29.17 | Mr_Rabies | for like a novel or something, eh whatever |
| 03:29.23 | Mr_Rabies | semi-disposable is fine |
| 03:36.22 | mckenziemc | "Turn my warrior into a frog!" |
| 03:36.28 | mckenziemc | interesting request |
| 03:39.31 | znf | so |
| 03:39.39 | znf | my favorite grapes are actually available on alibaba |
| 03:39.39 | znf | https://pe1047117725.fm.alibaba.com/product/154763637-0/RED_GLOBE_GRAPES.html |
| 03:39.58 | kullervo | I read that as "my favorite pepes" |
| 03:40.16 | fewyn | Min.Order Quantity:40 Cubic Foot/Cubic Feet |
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| 03:42.50 | mckenziemc | lol |
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| 04:02.59 | Mr_Rabies | i could eat 40 cubic feet of grapes a week |
| 04:04.39 | mckenziemc | and how many acres of farmland can you supply manure for? |
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| 04:26.37 | foxlit | Iriel: air-sized pro; better screen than the air. The big one would indeed be too large. |
| 04:28.11 | Iriel | foxlit: yeah thatd do it |
| 04:42.35 | Gnarfoz | I wish I got around to reading more :/ |
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| 05:15.20 | Simca_ | man, pre-7.1.5 to post-7.1.5 is a such a HUGE healing gain for me, lol |
| 05:16.05 | Stanzilla | why |
| 05:16.10 | Simca_ | pyrdaz and chain of thrayn went from being two of the worst healing legendaries to two of the best |
| 05:16.19 | Stanzilla | oh gain |
| 05:16.21 | Stanzilla | I read pain lol |
| 05:16.50 | Stanzilla | maybe because my current location is Thondroril River |
| 05:16.58 | Stanzilla | my brain auto connected that with pain |
| 05:17.44 | Simca_ | every single boss in 7.1.5 i've been 85th+ percentile on logs, before that it was about 60th percentile+ |
| 05:19.14 | Simca_ | pretty hilarious to see pyrdaz at like 6-8% of my healing done |
| 05:19.27 | Simca_ | pre-patch it was like... 0.3% healing done, if i was lucky |
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| 05:38.46 | Semlar | stop hacking simca |
| 05:39.40 | Semlar | i think they made my legendary pants heal every TWO seconds instead of every three |
| 05:40.21 | Semlar | my hunter's probably basically unkillable now |
| 05:41.46 | Semlar | oh boy wowhead says it's every 1 second |
| 05:44.48 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn for free |
| 05:48.19 | mukunda | is there a way to detect if the mouse is panning with either button? i.e. the cursor is invisible? |
| 05:48.29 | mckenziemc | steals Semlar's pants, giving them and a hug to Cairenn. |
| 05:48.45 | Semlar | IsMouselooking or something |
| 05:49.21 | Semlar | that might only cover one of them |
| 05:49.23 | mukunda | i see that but its not for left click panning |
| 05:49.49 | Semlar | you can hook the actual functions that get called when you left or right click |
| 05:49.57 | Semlar | and just track it yourself |
| 05:50.28 | Semlar | i think one is CameraOrSelectOrMoveStart and the other one is MouselookStart |
| 05:50.33 | Semlar | and Stop |
| 05:51.09 | Semlar | eg. hooksecurefunc('CameraOrSelectOrMoveStart', function() print('CameraOrSelectOrMoveStart') end) |
| 05:52.04 | mukunda | alrighty |
| 05:52.08 | Semlar | you might even be able to hook the click on WorldFrame, not sure |
| 05:54.00 | mckenziemc | skewers Semlar. |
| 05:58.37 | Semlar | you can hook the click, but i suppose it's technically possible to execute those functions without clicking on the WorldFrame so it wouldn't necessarily do the same thing |
| 06:04.36 | mckenziemc | so class trials do allow learning appearances that you otherwise couldn't if you didn't have the right class / level for the BoE items you have on a server, though there's both an hourly and weekly cap on class trials you can start |
| 06:08.34 | mckenziemc | and just making one gives you the class-specific set, if you don't already have it from salvage crates |
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| 09:44.35 | superradish | hello all i was wondering if anyoen would know a quick command to remove the social mini button (O) |
| 09:44.55 | superradish | i've tried /run FriendsMicroButton:Hide() but that does not work as it appears friendsmicrobutton is not defined in any addon i use |
| 09:45.02 | superradish | any assistance would be appreciated. |
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| 14:03.19 | VIad | at the end of karazhan, why does medivh fly out in space in raven form? |
| 14:03.32 | VIad | he teleports in, RP event, raven, flies into space >_> |
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| 14:38.24 | karl_w_w | because that's how you correctly rip off the story of dracula, VIad :P |
| 14:38.35 | VIad | kek |
| 14:38.56 | VIad | I wonder if the guy that scripted the NPCs arrival and departure even knew what it was about |
| 14:39.15 | VIad | or if he just saw L.KARA_SPEECH_GUY1_A and no context |
| 14:39.39 | VIad | just the time for eachspeech bubble and he just imagined what medivh would do - raven, since he loves to raven |
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| 15:27.51 | _Kee | Is it possible to move secure frame in combat over time? |
| 15:56.17 | foxlit | protected frames cannot have their anchors changed from insecure code. |
| 15:56.23 | foxlit | the restricted environment has a very limited concept of time. |
| 15:57.00 | _Kee | I mean, move them from secure code, but over time. |
| 15:57.28 | foxlit | if you don't care about hitbox positions, you can animate the transition while teleporting the actual frames. |
| 15:58.34 | _Kee | I am using RegisterStateDriver with _onstate- attribute secure code so I can move frame from point x2,y2 to x2,y2 once state changes, but I would like to do that over time. |
| 15:58.39 | _Kee | is it possible? |
| 16:01.04 | _Kee | /wow.gamepedia.com/RestrictedEnvironment's :SetPoint but over time, like http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Animation |
| 16:01.18 | foxlit | Given the preference for simple answers, let's go with "no" |
| 16:03.04 | _Kee | o thanks |
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| 16:45.01 | Semlar | Stanzilla: does TargetNearestUseOld not have an affect any more? the cvar still exists |
| 16:49.15 | Semlar | nevermind it clearly does something |
| 16:49.43 | Semlar | i'm going to put it back into the browser |
| 16:52.59 | _Kee | Semlar: Could you tell more about what are exact differences beetween TargetNearestUseOld set to true and false once you find it out? I am curious too. Would be cool to share it :) |
| 16:54.03 | Semlar | not sure, having it set to 1 appears to restrict it to targeting things in a cone in front of where i'm facing, whereas 0 is tabbing through a wider area |
| 16:54.10 | VIad | if it makes tab avoid packs not in combat that are nearby, plz gief |
| 16:55.41 | Semlar | they seem to have actually removed the cvars that would let you ignore mobs that you weren't in combat with |
| 16:58.10 | Semlar | i need to fix a minor flaw in my "enforce settings" option where i only take into account settings that have checkboxes and stuff and ignore all of the cvars in the browser |
| 17:03.42 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/fewyn/status/820676069145661440 this smells delicious already |
| 17:04.47 | VIad | #scared |
| 17:05.05 | VIad | probably better IRL than image when you havent had ramen :p |
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| 18:42.41 | superradish | anyone around |
| 18:42.55 | superradish | i'm trying to remove the social button in the UI - the little man that shows how many friends you have on |
| 18:44.00 | zenzelezz | and what have you tried? |
| 18:45.14 | superradish | i've tried /run FriendsMicroButton:Hide() but that does not work as it appears friendsmicrobutton is not defined in any addon i use |
| 18:45.30 | superradish | a site suggested that as a solution but i'm rather new at this |
| 18:46.02 | Stanzilla | I think the frame has a different name now |
| 18:46.14 | zenzelezz | try using framestack to find the right name |
| 18:46.36 | Stanzilla | QuickJoinToastButton |
| 18:46.50 | Stanzilla | QuickjoinToastButton |
| 19:03.41 | superradish | perfect |
| 19:03.44 | superradish | thanks so much |
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| 19:18.04 | superradish | so much easier to write a c# script to click on what i want from outside the game than to write a lua script that does the same thing, ugh |
| 19:28.09 | Iriel | superradish: Sure, one is potentially against the TOS and could end up costing you your account, and the other is condoned, but otherwise the two approaches are comparable. |
| 19:28.25 | Iriel | It's worth remembering that the purpose of the Lua layer is to enable UI customization, not game automation. |
| 19:29.22 | Seerah | This ^^^^ |
| 19:29.59 | superradish | it's more of an exercise to see if i can do it than to automate naything |
| 19:30.23 | superradish | like can i get it to click on create, one item at a time, instead of hitting create all |
| 19:30.25 | superradish | using lua |
| 19:30.32 | superradish | and achieve the same result |
| 19:30.56 | Seerah | again, if you want to risk your account getting banned, continue with your exercise :) |
| 19:35.45 | superradish | all it takes is one successful instance of it working to satisfy me |
| 19:36.30 | Seerah | (1:30:54 PM) Seerah: again, if you want to risk your account getting banned, continue with your exercise :) |
| 19:36.59 | Seerah | but this is the channel run by official fansites, so ... you should keep it to yourself |
| 19:38.30 | superradish | so you're saying it's possible (that'll do for an answer for now, i have other personal projects taht don't violate any terms of any services i use) |
| 19:39.13 | Seerah | I didn't say it was possible. I just said that it may risk your account and you can't discuss it here |
| 19:39.26 | foxlit | you two clearly have nothing useful to say to each other. |
| 19:40.51 | foxlit | you can obviously automate clicks externally, but the tou for wow forbids you from doing that. Whether they catch you or not is somebody else's problem. |
| 19:41.07 | foxlit | you might be able to automate some clicks inside wow, depending on what exactly they're supposed to be doing, and that might be okay. |
| 19:41.22 | superradish | i dont even want to do that |
| 19:42.06 | superradish | lets say i just wanna run a button down event on bar 1.. uh ... slot... 1 |
| 19:42.17 | superradish | you know, the place that's defaulted to "1" as a hotkey |
| 19:42.29 | foxlit | In response to a user action, sure. |
| 19:42.35 | foxlit | Automatically, intentionally not. |
| 19:42.36 | superradish | right |
| 19:42.48 | superradish | so i could do it one way for sure |
| 19:43.01 | superradish | whatever spell i put there, i can just do /cast <spellname> |
| 19:43.23 | Seerah | in reaction to a hardware event performed by the user |
| 19:43.36 | foxlit | there's also /click ActionButton1, which would click that button without you having to know what's on it. |
| 19:43.53 | superradish | but much like the question i had earlier with the /run QuickjoinToastButton:Hide(); that i typed in |
| 19:44.01 | superradish | ah see that's what i was wondering |
| 19:44.26 | superradish | if there was a command written specifically for recreating the mouse button down event |
| 19:44.36 | superradish | i dont know the command line in wow at all, i apologize |
| 19:48.03 | foxlit | https://wow.gamepedia.com/Making_a_macro might be helpful. |
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| 22:03.03 | Ketho | hey Semlar so can we use the savedvariables now in advancedinterfaceoptions? I want to add status text options |
| 22:06.32 | Semlar | you could create a new entry for it |
| 22:06.43 | Primer | Has anyone ever had their combat ally button disappear? |
| 22:06.50 | Semlar | the saved variables are account wide |
| 22:06.57 | Primer | I can't get it on one of my toons, and it's not on any of my bars. |
| 22:07.02 | Ketho | okay |
| 22:07.45 | Semlar | or maybe i should just create a table to add custom vars to |
| 22:12.02 | Semlar | Ketho: you want to just use AdvancedInterfaceOptionsSaved.CustomVars or call it something else |
| 22:12.22 | Ketho | CustomVars sounds fine |
| 22:14.01 | Semlar | alright, i added the setup for it under ADDON_LOADED |
| 22:16.28 | Semlar | some of the settings the addon handles already aren't cvars, so i was thinking about splitting how they're handled |
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| 22:30.46 | Primer | Apparently this stuff is handled by the ZoneAbilityFrame |
| 22:30.51 | Primer | But I can't make that show up |
| 22:31.11 | Primer | If a frame is off-screen, what's the best way to "reset" it? |
| 22:31.36 | Semlar | frame:ClearAllPoints() frame:SetPoint('CENTER', UIParent) |
| 22:33.07 | Primer | thanks |
| 22:33.48 | Primer | yeah, just can't get it to show |
| 22:33.57 | Primer | The ability button is most definitely not on any bar |
| 22:34.05 | Semlar | maybe you don't have one |
| 22:34.44 | Primer | /dump ZoneAbilitFrame <-- shows a ton of stuff |
| 22:34.57 | Primer | /dump ZoneAbilityFrame |
| 22:34.58 | Primer | that is |
| 22:35.06 | Semlar | are you in a zone where you can't use it |
| 22:36.24 | Primer | most definitely |
| 22:36.30 | Primer | https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749114796 |
| 22:36.37 | Primer | I'm not the only one having this problem |
| 22:36.56 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.00 | Semlar | you aren't in your class hall or something right? |
| 22:38.18 | Semlar | all that stuff is disabled in town |
| 22:38.28 | Primer | I'm in Suramar |
| 22:38.31 | Primer | doing WQs |
| 22:38.44 | Primer | [14:38:08] Dump: value=GetZoneAbilitySpellInfo() |
| 22:38.44 | Primer | [14:38:08] [1]=211390, |
| 22:38.44 | Primer | [14:38:08] [2]=3 |
| 22:38.44 | Primer | [14:38:11] [Spy] P |
| 22:39.10 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.52 | Primer | [1]="Combat Ally" |
| 22:40.11 | Semlar | what does /cast combat ally do |
| 22:40.45 | Primer | Surly it casts the spell |
| 22:40.53 | Primer | I know /cast Light of the Naaru works |
| 22:41.40 | Primer | I just don't want to try it now because I'm surrounded by elite mobs |
| 22:41.49 | Primer | and I know the chick that comes out casts Halo |
| 22:41.52 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.09 | Primer | false |
| 22:44.18 | Semlar | rip |
| 22:45.15 | Primer | Would that imply it's on some bar? |
| 22:45.23 | Semlar | no |
| 22:45.27 | Primer | I've disabled dominos, looked, nothing |
| 22:46.13 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.37 | Primer | false |
| 22:46.54 | Semlar | and it doesn't show up if you call ZoneAbilityFrame:Show()? |
| 22:47.27 | Primer | correct |
| 22:49.49 | Primer | I'm at the point where I'm about to run the game with empty Addons and WTF directories, as well as Cache |
| 22:50.09 | Semlar | run this /run ZoneAbilityFrame:HookScript('OnHide', function() print(debugstack(2)) end) |
| 22:50.29 | Semlar | then type /run ZoneAbilityFrame:Show() |
| 22:50.38 | Primer | it's running every 2 seconds |
| 22:50.46 | Primer | don't even need to show() |
| 22:50.58 | Primer | MoveAnything... |
| 22:51.13 | Primer | I had tried /move ZoneAbilityFrame |
| 22:51.22 | Primer | but that never showed it in the custom frames section |
| 22:53.40 | Primer | need to get somewhere safe to test this |
| 22:54.00 | Primer | omg |
| 22:54.01 | Semlar | just FD |
| 22:54.13 | Primer | hide was checked in MoveAnything |
| 22:54.25 | Semlar | >_> |
| 22:54.48 | Primer | Semlar: I love you |
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| 22:55.02 | Semlar | <3 |
| 23:34.32 | LexSfX | Stanzilla / Semlar: ffxDeath works again, so could be added to AIO |
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