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| 00:14.02 | VIad | nevcairiel: HOV+15 2min20s over time |
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| 03:20.59 | Tomaz^ | anyone awake? |
| 03:28.11 | Kraps | u |
| 03:28.50 | mckenziemc | v |
| 03:29.09 | fewyn | no |
| 03:35.30 | Tomaz^ | any of you know a way to get the appearance id or something like that from an item id or item link? |
| 03:37.11 | Ketho | C_TransmogCollection.GetItemInfo |
| 03:39.22 | Tomaz^ | not being able to find any info on that function ( other than the fact it exists ) |
| 03:39.42 | mckenziemc | i'm not surprised |
| 03:39.58 | Tomaz^ | so not sure what it returns |
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| 03:42.53 | Ketho | its mentioned here https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ptr/Blizzard_Collections/Blizzard_Wardrobe.lua#1 |
| 03:43.32 | Ketho | but half the legion api is undocumented... |
| 03:43.58 | Tomaz^ | yeah |
| 03:45.45 | Tomaz^ | apparently.. |
| 03:45.55 | Tomaz^ | GetSourceID(itemLink) |
| 03:45.58 | Tomaz^ | then |
| 03:46.03 | Tomaz^ | GetAppearanceIDFromSourceID |
| 03:50.31 | Tomaz^ | ok, more hooking into CanIMogIt I guess |
| 03:56.36 | Tomaz^ | sweet! |
| 03:56.56 | Tomaz^ | ignoring items with the same appearance dropped uniqie mail heads on AH from 247 to 68 |
| 04:59.02 | Stanzilla | anyone know why half of blizzard is in vegas this weekend? |
| 04:59.20 | AmiYuy | They do company fun trips |
| 04:59.52 | AmiYuy | They did Vegas two years ago too? And they do Medieval Times fairly often |
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| 05:55.07 | mckenziemc | classic memory leak; forgot to free the allocation at the end of the main loop |
| 05:56.08 | mckenziemc | not that the 44 bytes at most per run of this class project consumes a significant amount of memory :p |
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| 07:15.32 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 07:15.40 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 07:18.44 | mckenziemc | mugs Fisker, steals his potatoes, and hugs Cairenn. |
| 07:18.50 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
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| 08:49.55 | pnorman | mckenziemc: that's what RAII is for |
| 09:44.38 | znf | wonder if overwatch is having a fluke |
| 09:44.40 | znf | or it's my internet |
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| 10:37.52 | VIad | you can complete the barrels'o fun by checking UnitGUID :p |
| 10:38.50 | nevcairiel | its not like its hard without it |
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| 10:43.21 | VIad | no but meh |
| 10:43.48 | VIad | just fun fact since they obviously put in some effort to mask the dinner party in COS :p |
| 10:44.12 | nevcairiel | noone really cares if your WQ goes a couple seconds faster :D |
| 10:46.29 | nevcairiel | although i'm sure there are some people incapable of finishing this one |
| 10:46.32 | nevcairiel | like the flying ones |
| 10:46.33 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 10:46.52 | nevcairiel | some even have trouble with the enigma ones |
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| 10:47.25 | nevcairiel | brain where art thou |
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| 11:14.33 | tz | RAII is a wondrous thing |
| 11:14.47 | tz | shame it's not really available in lua |
| 11:14.52 | tz | __gc doesn't count |
| 11:15.49 | ycarene | Is there an addon that allows the character screen to show more info? |
| 11:16.23 | tz | character select? |
| 11:17.33 | ycarene | No, the window that allows you to change your equipment, titles and such. |
| 11:18.06 | tz | I use DejaCharacterStats |
| 11:18.12 | tz | might fit the bill |
| 11:18.34 | ycarene | Ahh, that's perfect, thanks. |
| 11:18.46 | tz | :) |
| 11:19.07 | tz | regarding RAII, hadn't seen this before, but I hadn't really done much searching: http://lua-users.org/wiki/ResourceAcquisitionIsInitialization |
| 11:25.48 | nevcairiel | a small minority of mainstream languages support RAII even today, mostly because most things dont come with destructors |
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| 12:29.07 | karl_w_w | 7 VIad :D |
| 12:29.57 | VIad | karl_w_w: 7 what? :D |
| 12:30.26 | karl_w_w | mother fuckin 7! dota2.com/700 |
| 12:30.54 | nevcairiel | the website isnt exactly very informative |
| 12:33.41 | karl_w_w | it's got all we need! |
| 12:33.51 | karl_w_w | a countdown and the number 7! |
| 12:34.36 | nevcairiel | now if that had a countdown and the number 3, i might get excited |
| 12:34.50 | VIad | oh |
| 12:36.56 | VIad | 7.0 patch, karl_w_w. in 4hours and 20min |
| 12:37.03 | VIad | monkey king hero? |
| 12:37.28 | karl_w_w | yes |
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| 12:57.44 | VIad | isnt it like a mix between some already existing heroes? |
| 12:57.59 | VIad | looked a bit like a demon hunter of dota :p |
| 12:58.20 | karl_w_w | https://i.redd.it/xhi6gpaduu2y.jpg |
| 12:58.31 | VIad | LOL |
| 12:58.50 | VIad | indexed by password? :p |
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| 13:19.38 | Maldivia | at least it doesn't mention which other user :D |
| 13:22.11 | VIad | "Sorry. The passord is already taken by email@gmail.com" |
| 13:48.19 | _Kee | "Click here to see list of similiar passwords in use in order to avoid using them." |
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| 15:13.11 | VIad | "You might want to view the password list to avoid using any of these when registering." |
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| 15:54.41 | _Kee | I just found that affliction's warlock Soul Effigy is a totem with id #4 |
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| 16:02.29 | fewyn | has there been anymore information on wow tokens to gold transfer? |
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| 16:57.08 | VIad | karl_w_w: 2 minutes |
| 16:57.24 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 16:57.25 | VIad | fewyn: you mean like putting the token on the AH? |
| 16:57.41 | karl_w_w | ive heard so many rumours |
| 16:57.47 | karl_w_w | like the mmr system is getting replaced |
| 16:57.53 | VIad | source v3? |
| 16:57.56 | VIad | source3 |
| 16:58.02 | VIad | UI overhaul? |
| 16:58.09 | karl_w_w | supposedly the in-game UI is getting updated to source 2 |
| 16:58.14 | VIad | ingame UI is shit |
| 16:58.14 | karl_w_w | cos that was still on the old one |
| 16:58.18 | VIad | hope it updates it to the new style |
| 16:58.33 | karl_w_w | current one is using scaleform |
| 16:58.39 | VIad | y |
| 16:58.47 | VIad | but its very bad, people have tons of problems with it on high res |
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| 16:58.50 | VIad | 2k 4k |
| 16:59.06 | VIad | 50 seconds |
| 16:59.32 | fewyn | i mispoke VIad i meant the wow tokens to bnet balance |
| 16:59.42 | fewyn | which i think was in the 7.1.5 ptr? |
| 17:00.28 | VIad | karl_w_w: what happened? |
| 17:00.34 | VIad | except DDOS :p |
| 17:01.39 | VIad | what did valve expect when you make a countdown page that auto-refreshes at 0 |
| 17:01.44 | karl_w_w | the wait continues :P |
| 17:01.47 | VIad | like thousands of page requests in the same second |
| 17:01.52 | VIad | the site wont even load for me :p |
| 17:01.56 | VIad | http://dota2.com/ |
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| 17:29.04 | mckenziemc | so you link it |
| 17:30.14 | mckenziemc | slashdots VIad. |
| 17:38.50 | karl_w_w | the cult of F5 |
| 17:48.07 | VIad | 503 service unavailable :d |
| 17:48.17 | VIad | the big reveal is delayed for an hour now, karl_w_w |
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| 17:54.10 | VIad | karl_w_w: http://ss.bool.no/capture_1481478845.png |
| 17:54.13 | karl_w_w | things are happening |
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| 18:01.01 | karl_w_w | Dota 3 is here |
| 18:02.36 | fewyn | is this leg good for blood dk? http://i.imgur.com/xRxKeVr.png |
| 18:02.40 | fewyn | my luck keeps rolling |
| 18:16.05 | fewyn | i should probably go play the lotto |
| 18:16.34 | Semlar | i don't know if that's how luck works |
| 18:17.15 | fewyn | Semlar: i've had invincible's reins, mimiron's head and now a legendary drop since friday night |
| 18:17.42 | Semlar | sounds like you're overdue for some unluck |
| 18:31.03 | karl_w_w | its working VIad |
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| 20:04.54 | karl_w_w | huh, there's a huge snail on my wall |
| 20:04.55 | karl_w_w | indoors |
| 20:09.49 | fewyn | so besides following https://decentsecurity.com/#/securing-your-computer/ for setting up a computer, any other suggestions? |
| 20:10.06 | fewyn | i'm attempting to fix my bosses laptop with a fresh install of win10 |
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| 20:42.12 | Maldivia | well, you've installed Win10, so you've already failed :D |
| 20:45.10 | mckenziemc | so did his boss :o |
| 20:49.08 | fewyn | what's wrong with windows 10? |
| 20:49.22 | fewyn | other than peoples irrational hatred for microsoft lately |
| 20:51.23 | VIad | killed cenarius and xavius on mythic tonight |
| 20:51.27 | VIad | :d |
| 21:10.22 | Ssateneth | stupid question |
| 21:10.25 | Ssateneth | marksman hunter |
| 21:10.30 | Ssateneth | does multishot cost focus, generate focus, or neither? |
| 21:10.35 | Ssateneth | I'm watching a guy stream marksman and hes spamming multishot on like 2-3 targets but his focus doesnt go down |
| 21:10.40 | Ssateneth | around level 77 or so |
| 21:15.25 | Maldivia | it costs and generates focus |
| 21:18.18 | Ssateneth | would it be free if it hit 2 targets? |
| 21:19.21 | Maldivia | ohh marksman, then it's free and generates |
| 21:19.23 | Maldivia | for BM it costs :D |
| 21:21.46 | Maldivia | had to double check -- since my hunter runs with Sidewinders, which replaces it :D |
| 21:22.33 | Ssateneth | Oh, multishot is COMPLETELY free AND it generates |
| 21:22.40 | Ssateneth | So its purely a focus generator for AOE |
| 21:22.45 | Ssateneth | Correct? |
| 21:24.04 | Ssateneth | Im just confused because on battlenet it says it generates 40 energy but generates 2 focus per target hit under the marksman talent tree selected |
| 21:25.58 | Maldivia | Ssateneth: for BM, it costs 40, but for marksman it's free and generates |
| 21:26.23 | Maldivia | so depending on spec or costs and generates :D |
| 21:32.05 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 21:32.29 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 21:38.09 | Ssateneth | thank you Maldivia |
| 21:38.13 | Ssateneth | another dumb question |
| 21:38.19 | Ssateneth | how does aimed shot become instant cast? |
| 21:38.43 | Ssateneth | the battlenet ability list isnt helping, i think its combining tooltip of the wrong abilities or not all abilities are shown |
| 21:41.09 | Maldivia | Lock and Load talent |
| 21:41.57 | Ssateneth | THANK YOU |
| 21:42.14 | Ssateneth | just watching a streamer level a hunter and playing poorly |
| 21:42.21 | Ssateneth | trying to figure out how to fix it |
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| 22:29.06 | Arrowmaster | nice, im getting errors for the cert on smile.amazon.com |
| 22:33.36 | znf | Arrowmaster, looks fine to me |
| 22:33.50 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/TlouuRR.png |
| 22:34.01 | znf | I find it funny that Amazon doesn't have an EV certificate |
| 22:34.10 | znf | like, biggest retailer in the world doesn't have it |
| 22:34.11 | Arrowmaster | "The server presented a certificate that was not publicly disclosed using the Certificate Transparency policy." |
| 22:34.20 | znf | yet small-ass companies think they need one |
| 22:35.06 | Arrowmaster | i think they just switched to a new cert and my browser hasnt gotten the new pinning list yet |
| 22:39.20 | fewyn | i just wonder traded a gastly for a gastly |
| 22:42.33 | nevcairiel | EV is only about perception, amazon just doesnt care =p |
| 22:42.52 | nevcairiel | its not like its actually mroe secure |
| 22:44.27 | foxlit | That depends; you might be able to trick someone into issuing you an amazon cert, but you shouldn't be able to trick someone into issuing you an EV amazon cert. |
| 22:45.01 | nevcairiel | you shouldnt be able to do the first either |
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| 22:48.18 | znf | nevcairiel, exactly |
| 22:48.22 | foxlit | and yet that happens https://security.googleblog.com/2016/10/distrusting-wosign-and-startcom.html |
| 22:49.05 | nevcairiel | if a CA wants to play dirty, they might as well issue EVs =p |
| 22:49.24 | foxlit | except the issue is less a CA playing dity and more automated validation code being badly written. |
| 22:49.40 | nevcairiel | "The investigation concluded that WoSign knowingly and intentionally misissued certificates in order to circumvent browser restrictions and CA requirements" |
| 22:49.43 | nevcairiel | yeah, well. |
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| 22:55.51 | foxlit | the paragraph before that is more relevant to the cert-for-wrong-domains discussion; the rest of this is basically "they backdated some (legitimate) certs to use crypto that we wanted to deprecate, and then were less than honest about it". |
| 22:57.55 | nevcairiel | considering such actions can basically bankrupt such a company, I would hope that others are more diligent now |
| 23:01.33 | znf | I doubt they care |
| 23:01.39 | znf | Aren't they chinese? |
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| 23:02.03 | nevcairiel | StartCom had a variety of international customers |
| 23:02.12 | znf | I know |
| 23:02.13 | nevcairiel | which are all moving away now |
| 23:02.20 | znf | I mean, I doubt the company cares |
| 23:03.08 | nevcairiel | Unless they are like the only chinese CA, they might still notice |
| 23:03.36 | nevcairiel | even if i'm chinese and most my audience is chinese which might still accept those certs, why wouldn't i use another CA thats accepted everywhere instead of this one |
| 23:06.49 | znf | no, what I mean is, they probably got a "good" bribe |
| 23:06.55 | znf | that they don't even care |
| 23:06.57 | znf | who knows |
| 23:07.02 | nevcairiel | you make no sense |
| 23:07.15 | znf | I'm half drunk |
| 23:07.15 | foxlit | I think the reason they wanted backdated certs with deprecated crypto in the first place is that a sizable portion of their clients' software only supports that crypto. |
| 23:08.18 | nevcairiel | that must be some old software |
| 23:08.37 | Gnarfoz | also, StartSSL only became "chinese" very recently, in the grand scheme of things |
| 23:08.49 | nevcairiel | and promptly got banned |
| 23:08.50 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 23:09.10 | Gnarfoz | because they didn't disclose it voluntarily and then even lied about it when asked about it, yeah |
| 23:09.50 | Gnarfoz | (and another 5$ into the "EV doesn't mean shit" pot. StartSSL actually had very good validation for what it's worth.) |
| 23:10.23 | nevcairiel | even had to do phone shit for a second level validation, i forgot what i did it for |
| 23:10.27 | nevcairiel | wildcards probably? |
| 23:10.48 | Gnarfoz | you forgot why you paid? |
| 23:10.56 | Gnarfoz | not following ^^ |
| 23:10.56 | nevcairiel | was a long time ago |
| 23:11.11 | Gnarfoz | I think my motive was wildcards, anyway |
| 23:11.23 | Gnarfoz | 60$ for as many wildcards as I want was a steal |
| 23:11.29 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 23:11.39 | Gnarfoz | Neither VeriSign, Thawte, nor GeoTrust ever bothered to call us up for our organization validated verts |
| 23:11.39 | znf | I just use letsencrypt |
| 23:11.42 | Gnarfoz | *certs |
| 23:12.02 | znf | Wonder when will someone attack letsencrypt's DNS servers and make use of "fake" certs |
| 23:12.26 | Gnarfoz | LE will have its issues sooner or later, I bet |
| 23:12.29 | znf | I mean their resolvers, someone will eventually figure out how to do that |
| 23:12.51 | znf | I fully expect someone to find a way to exploit their infrastructure |
| 23:13.02 | nevcairiel | I wish LE would allow automatic validation on non-standard http ports |
| 23:13.07 | znf | +1 |
| 23:13.33 | nevcairiel | their http validation isnt very useful if you have to stop your http server to get their thing up |
| 23:13.41 | znf | use the webroot plugin? |
| 23:14.05 | nevcairiel | i have some subdomains on reverse proxy setups that make this rather hard. |
| 23:14.14 | znf | ah, yes, that's a bit annoying |
| 23:14.29 | znf | I usually do a .well-known block in nginx |
| 23:15.01 | nevcairiel | i could probably right the config up to redirect the .well-known thing to the same place on the system for all subdomains or something |
| 23:15.10 | nevcairiel | but i've been lazy |
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| 23:15.52 | Gnarfoz | that's the way to do it, I think |
| 23:15.52 | znf | wish they would just make a damn nginx plugin already |
| 23:16.10 | Gnarfoz | What for? a .well-known block is basically that. :P |
| 23:16.45 | znf | so I don't have to do that manually |
| 23:16.58 | nevcairiel | i should probably re-fuddle all my configs to be somewhat smarter |
| 23:17.09 | nevcairiel | its grown over time without much of a system =p |
| 23:17.13 | znf | dehydrated is nice, though |
| 23:17.15 | znf | you can do dns auth |
| 23:18.25 | znf | the Route53 plugin works nice |
| 23:23.01 | Gnarfoz | that seems way more effort than just including a .well-known block through a simple "include well-known.conf;" line |
| 23:23.26 | znf | yeah, but... |
| 23:23.31 | znf | what if you have haproxy? :P |
| 23:23.38 | mckenziemc | not as much effort as convincing him to change |
| 23:23.48 | Gnarfoz | what does haproxy have to do with this |
| 23:24.02 | znf | if you don't use nginx |
| 23:24.23 | znf | https://github.com/lukas2511/dehydrated/wiki/Examples-for-DNS-01-hooks |
| 23:24.26 | Gnarfoz | has HAProxy gained TLS now? |
| 23:24.42 | znf | lots of DNS challenge plugins |
| 23:26.34 | Gnarfoz | mwahaha haproxy.org news from 2016-11-25: Consecutive to this update, the haproxy.org website was also upgraded to version 1.7.0 and a new SSL certificate was installed now that StartSSL accepts up to 10 hostnames per domain on free certs. |
| 23:27.57 | nevcairiel | itnerestingly their cert is still trusted despite being issued after the cut-off mentioned in googles security blog |
| 23:28.27 | Gnarfoz | it's not |
| 23:28.42 | znf | no? |
| 23:28.43 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/pVaetPC.png |
| 23:28.50 | Gnarfoz | NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID |
| 23:28.57 | Gnarfoz | ye |
| 23:28.59 | nevcairiel | oh right they only enforce that with 56 |
| 23:29.03 | nevcairiel | release is still 55 |
| 23:29.10 | Gnarfoz | is it? shouldn't it be on 54 |
| 23:29.14 | Gnarfoz | dev is on 56 |
| 23:29.37 | nevcairiel | 55 was released last week |
| 23:29.40 | Gnarfoz | I see |
| 23:29.43 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I guess I should figure out my cert situation before next yeart |
| 23:29.44 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:29.45 | nevcairiel | probably not enohgh time to bump the chain up |
| 23:30.06 | nevcairiel | my only actual user-facing website uses letsencrypt sha256 |
| 23:30.53 | nevcairiel | and some of my dev things i've been lazy with use cacert sha512 =P |
| 23:31.08 | Gnarfoz | could just use self-signed at that point ;) |
| 23:31.19 | Gnarfoz | it's not like it's any less secure |
| 23:31.37 | Gnarfoz | actually might be more secure because you don't need to trust CACert! :P |
| 23:32.01 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if my certs are still being trusted becuase of the Certificate Transparency stuff or because I'm a "known customer of startcom" oO |
| 23:32.03 | nevcairiel | should create my own CA! |
| 23:32.17 | nevcairiel | certs issued before october or so remain valid |
| 23:34.21 | nevcairiel | i tried to understand that transparency stuff |
| 23:34.23 | nevcairiel | but its hard |
| 23:34.35 | znf | I suck http://i.imgur.com/BxinVn4.png |
| 23:34.36 | znf | :D |
| 23:35.46 | mckenziemc | i see no pressure gradients there, znf |
| 23:36.01 | znf | you don't see what? |
| 23:36.04 | Primer | What is the rogue ability that prevents anything from being done to them while they are still able to attack you? |
| 23:36.12 | znf | Primer, Shadow Cloak? |
| 23:36.16 | znf | Cloak of Shadow? |
| 23:36.18 | znf | something |
| 23:36.27 | Primer | Does that also include melee abilities? |
| 23:36.45 | nevcairiel | Evasion then? |
| 23:36.49 | nevcairiel | or a combinaton of both? |
| 23:36.56 | znf | I think Evasion is for melee |
| 23:37.01 | znf | cloak is for spells |
| 23:37.06 | znf | has no idea about rogues |
| 23:37.09 | Primer | Yeah, I thought cloak was only for spells |
| 23:37.11 | znf | also, give DANE this century |
| 23:37.18 | Gnarfoz | that's dead |
| 23:37.31 | nevcairiel | DANE was a stillbirth |
| 23:37.32 | Primer | I was hitting maim on this rogue over and over, and nothing would happen. It was quite frustrating |
| 23:37.49 | mckenziemc | evasion is for melee who don't try to get behind the rogue |
| 23:37.58 | Gnarfoz | wut |
| 23:38.12 | Gnarfoz | Primer: combatlog, something happened |
| 23:38.14 | Primer | Well, when it's 1v1 pvp, it's going to be hard to get behind him |
| 23:38.20 | Gnarfoz | why would getting behind them help. |
| 23:38.24 | nevcairiel | its just evasion then |
| 23:38.30 | nevcairiel | because evasion is dodge |
| 23:38.36 | nevcairiel | and players cant dodge when hit in the ass |
| 23:38.49 | Primer | Right, because the combat log is going to tell me why I couldn't apply maim |
| 23:38.56 | Gnarfoz | yes, it will |
| 23:39.36 | Primer | Under "my actions"? |
| 23:39.44 | mckenziemc | 1v1 doesn't make standing in front any better |
| 23:39.46 | Primer | Because there's nothing there for it...I had already checked that |
| 23:39.51 | nevcairiel | the built-in combatlog filters are rather useless, tbh |
| 23:40.10 | Primer | How does one see the non filtered one then? |
| 23:40.14 | nevcairiel | it would tell you that he dodged, but not w hy |
| 23:40.28 | Gnarfoz | it should also show you which buff he gained beforehand ^^ |
| 23:40.39 | nevcairiel | not with any of the two built-in filters |
| 23:40.48 | nevcairiel | because those two relate to you only |
| 23:40.50 | Gnarfoz | isn't "everything" built in as well |
| 23:40.54 | nevcairiel | is it? |
| 23:41.00 | Gnarfoz | also, /combatlog, but that's not possible afterwards |
| 23:41.30 | nevcairiel | in any case, mystery solved, rogues can dodge for 10 seconds |
| 23:42.03 | nevcairiel | a more pressing matter, why are spriests so strong in 1v1 pvp, thats not good, they need to just die so znf crys more |
| 23:43.16 | Gnarfoz | does any rogue spec still have smoke bomb? :D |
| 23:43.38 | nevcairiel | its an honor talent for sub |
| 23:43.45 | znf | pvp talents are insanely good |
| 23:43.46 | Gnarfoz | (I might counter that with "but that would have been obvious", but that goes for evasion as well, tbh) |
| 23:43.50 | znf | that's why shadow is good in 1v1 |
| 23:44.37 | nevcairiel | smoke bomb also blocks you from attacking, doesnt it |
| 23:45.06 | Gnarfoz | dear lord, another round of "need to improve parents' data storage/backup situation"... I don't want to deal with this shit anymore |
| 23:45.07 | nevcairiel | why would you be able to see better when in all that smoke :D |
| 23:45.18 | nevcairiel | let them parents deal themself? :) |
| 23:45.25 | Gnarfoz | yeah, unlikely |
| 23:45.59 | mckenziemc | just make their systems fully accessible from the internet so anyone can make a copy :) |
| 23:46.26 | Gnarfoz | "distributed systems", eh? |
| 23:54.10 | Gnarfoz | they need to get more upload bandwidth so I can pitch them cloud backup ;p |
