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| 00:26.28 | Alram | no but you can buy 870 gear and legendaries from an npc |
| 00:38.34 | VIad | so how about them 7.1.5 - next year, mid january? :D |
| 00:39.03 | nevcairiel | they already announced its not going to be this year because releasing shortly before a holiday is bad juju |
| 00:39.07 | nevcairiel | try to follow the news |
| 00:39.28 | VIad | I went on mmochamp |
| 00:39.39 | VIad | still scarab holiday thing |
| 00:40.04 | nevcairiel | it was already a couple days ago from the Q&A |
| 00:40.06 | VIad | didnt find the news post about the postpone |
| 00:40.07 | VIad | aha |
| 00:40.20 | nevcairiel | also no postpone, they never said anything about the release =p |
| 00:41.14 | VIad | they said 7.1.5 would be between now and 7.2, when they said that it was like over a month ago |
| 00:41.14 | nevcairiel | if i had to guess, i would say 10th earliest, considering how much they are still tierating on some classes more like 17th |
| 00:41.21 | VIad | 7.2 was scheduled end january right? |
| 00:41.24 | nevcairiel | no |
| 00:41.27 | VIad | so makes sense that 7.1.5 would come out mid dec |
| 00:41.30 | nevcairiel | 7.2 is like in april or some shit |
| 00:41.33 | VIad | oh ok |
| 00:41.36 | VIad | ah no |
| 00:41.40 | VIad | they said before nighthold? |
| 00:41.42 | nevcairiel | they havent commented on 7.2 at all t iming wise |
| 00:41.46 | VIad | and nighthold was coming out end jan |
| 00:41.57 | VIad | and the .5 patch would be in between now and then |
| 00:42.14 | nevcairiel | thats most likely a definite goal |
| 00:42.26 | nevcairiel | but we also dont know for certain when nighthold opens |
| 00:43.04 | nevcairiel | judging from how 7.1.5 is progressing and the holidays coming up, not before end of january, maybe even first week february |
| 00:43.22 | Mr_Rabies | this suuramar questline from 7.1 is slowly starting to look like attunement |
| 00:43.33 | VIad | Mr_Rabies: felt like that for a while if you ask me :d |
| 00:43.45 | nevcairiel | they havent done raid attunment for ages |
| 00:43.49 | Mr_Rabies | i wonder if they'll actually do that for NH, they did it with kara |
| 00:43.52 | VIad | :D |
| 00:43.57 | VIad | or suramar dungeons |
| 00:43.57 | nevcairiel | but it certainly gives us a story why we're going there, which is a good thing |
| 00:44.19 | Mr_Rabies | i was thinking the same thing, but the last couple weeks' worth of quests has felt pretty attunement-y |
| 00:44.21 | nevcairiel | EN was like .. its there, go kill it |
| 00:45.08 | nevcairiel | even if its required, without the weekly timing you can probably finish it in an hour or two if need be, doesnt even include a dungeon like kara |
| 00:45.33 | nevcairiel | many of the steps were pretty short |
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| 00:45.56 | nevcairiel | but personally I dont expect it to be mandatory |
| 00:45.59 | nevcairiel | but we'll see |
| 00:46.25 | Mr_Rabies | i'm kinda feeling the same, i don't think they'd do it but blizzard definitely seems to be treading a fine line of nostalgia and change simultaneously |
| 00:46.32 | Mr_Rabies | sometimes doing change via reverting newer policy |
| 00:46.51 | Mr_Rabies | and going back to the stuff that was the norm when wow was uber popular |
| 00:47.00 | nevcairiel | ToV had some attunement-like quest that some people claimed was required |
| 00:47.02 | nevcairiel | but it wasnt :D |
| 00:47.20 | VIad | how weird |
| 00:47.25 | VIad | require attunement for 5 man but not raids :p |
| 00:47.46 | Mr_Rabies | also made said 5 mans really annoying |
| 00:47.55 | Mr_Rabies | hence basically no one runs them :v |
| 00:48.08 | nevcairiel | i like them |
| 00:48.10 | Mr_Rabies | i still haven't finished karazhan |
| 00:48.15 | Mr_Rabies | i got to curator and got lazy |
| 00:48.27 | nevcairiel | but thats where it starts to be fun |
| 00:48.32 | VIad | need a boost, Mr_Rabies |
| 00:48.34 | nevcairiel | all upside down and weird |
| 00:48.56 | VIad | I can tank for you |
| 00:49.06 | nevcairiel | he is a filthy murican |
| 00:49.10 | VIad | :( |
| 00:49.51 | nevcairiel | also christmas sucks, half the guild died out because for some reason everyone has stuff to do =p |
| 00:50.09 | VIad | ours is nolife and sunday we kill cenarius M hopefully |
| 00:50.30 | nevcairiel | i hope i can get some people for m+ together tomorrow |
| 00:50.44 | nevcairiel | want to avoid going r andom =p |
| 00:51.30 | VIad | you can join me nev, and a guildie of mine |
| 00:51.41 | nevcairiel | arent you horde |
| 00:51.48 | VIad | nightelf :d |
| 00:53.52 | nevcairiel | i heard they changed the vulcano animation, i wonder if its even less visible now =p |
| 00:54.11 | VIad | when it spawns its brown :/ |
| 00:54.13 | VIad | harder to see |
| 00:54.36 | nevcairiel | should try gnoming myself or something :D |
| 00:54.51 | nevcairiel | maul everything as milhouse manastorm! |
| 00:54.53 | VIad | put on the brewfest goggles |
| 00:54.57 | VIad | everyone is a gnome! |
| 00:55.12 | VIad | including odyn :D |
| 00:55.21 | VIad | turns into a tiny gnome, so cute |
| 00:56.18 | nevcairiel | dont think i have those, also its a head slot item not a toy, so rather meh =p |
| 00:56.24 | VIad | ye :d |
| 00:56.26 | VIad | replaces headgear |
| 00:56.31 | VIad | only reason I am not using them 247 |
| 00:56.40 | VIad | everything is easier to see when every humanoid is a gnome |
| 01:01.52 | Mr_Rabies | but everyone below 5" was killed 4 years ago???? |
| 01:01.56 | Mr_Rabies | THEN WHO WAS GNOME? |
| 01:02.23 | Mr_Rabies | this creepypasta brought to you by 9gag please leave spare change in my patreon thanks |
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| 01:10.05 | nevcairiel | man the average wow people are so stupid, dont they teach basic statistics in highschool anymore |
| 01:10.44 | nevcairiel | there is this thread that tries to apply some math to legendary drop rates and different activities, and half the people are dismissing it entirely because drop rates are random and therefor you can't predict anything |
| 01:10.50 | nevcairiel | go back to school, pleb :( |
| 01:11.40 | nevcairiel | like this one |
| 01:11.40 | nevcairiel | just like coin flips |
| 01:11.41 | nevcairiel | theres literally no way to know the odds of getting heads on a coinflip |
| 01:11.47 | nevcairiel | faceplams |
| 01:12.27 | mckenziemc | nah nevcairiel, just like everything else that has two outcomes, it's 50-50 |
| 01:12.43 | nevcairiel | i j ust quoted some guy |
| 01:12.45 | mckenziemc | actually if you're skilled you might be able to get the coin to land on its side and stay, so 33-33-33? |
| 01:13.01 | nevcairiel | dont think you can be skilled enough to make that an equal outcome |
| 01:13.29 | mckenziemc | but if there are n outcomes, they must occur with equal probability ;) |
| 01:13.54 | nevcairiel | even if i'm not s killed it could happen, but hardly equally =p |
| 01:13.55 | mckenziemc | (another common ridiculous belief) |
| 01:14.37 | mckenziemc | i just paired it with an obvious counterproof |
| 01:14.57 | nevcairiel | there is no arguing with these people |
| 01:15.03 | nevcairiel | they are beyond help |
| 01:18.22 | mckenziemc | ask them if the Illuminati are responsible for writing the Wikepedia articles on expected value, measures of central tendency, regression toward the mean, gaussian/binomial/Poisson distributions etc |
| 01:21.07 | mckenziemc | america has already transitioned from the information age to the age of the dunning-kruger effect |
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| 01:45.23 | mckenziemc | apparently relevant: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=dude+can+you+count&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Adude+can+you+count |
| 01:45.33 | fewyn | how's everyone today |
| 01:49.48 | mckenziemc | hey fewyn |
| 01:50.37 | mckenziemc | how many sets of usernames could be made by removing x number of names from the current list where x is between 0 and the current number in the room, inclusive |
| 01:51.31 | nebula | isn't dunning-kruger ability perception? not sure how that applies |
| 01:52.15 | mckenziemc | ability, or knowledge regarding a topic |
| 01:53.02 | nebula | never heard it referred to in regard to knowledge |
| 01:54.59 | mckenziemc | "it seems to me it works this way but i don't realize how little i know about the topic so i'm not only going to assume i'm correct but that any attempted corrections by others are misinformed" |
| 01:56.00 | nebula | nah, that doesn't sound right |
| 01:56.03 | mckenziemc | ability includes ability to reason about a topic |
| 01:57.24 | nebula | ok, i had planned to troll, but i need to go eat |
| 01:57.32 | mckenziemc | :( |
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| 02:03.06 | mckenziemc | nebula: you did have me starting to question myself though :p |
| 02:06.12 | Stanzilla | ¯_(ã)_/¯ |
| 02:10.41 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/fewyn/status/807407058400243713 |
| 02:10.43 | fewyn | yessssss |
| 02:10.46 | fewyn | yesssssss |
| 02:10.47 | fewyn | yessssssssssssssssss |
| 02:11.41 | Stanzilla | gz! |
| 02:12.30 | mckenziemc | how would you know you got them if they're invisible |
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| 02:19.44 | fewyn | the mount is beautiful |
| 02:21.12 | Stanzilla | your face is beautiful |
| 02:22.06 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 02:22.37 | fewyn | thanks Stanzilla <3 |
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| 02:29.14 | fewyn | i'm thinking of dying my hair/beard silver |
| 02:33.06 | mckenziemc | i've never heard of mid-life crises going in that direction before |
| 02:34.00 | fewyn | heh |
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| 02:51.24 | Kinesia | I am 43, have hair halfway down my back which ranges from silver to dark grey, it looks kinda cool now |
| 02:55.30 | Mr_Rabies | see if you can pull off a polnareff, fewyn |
| 02:55.33 | Mr_Rabies | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/jjba/images/4/4a/Polnareff_anime.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131219030730 |
| 02:56.05 | fewyn | my hair is pretty long atm |
| 02:56.08 | fewyn | longest it's ever been |
| 02:56.13 | fewyn | i can tie it into a tiny pony tail |
| 02:57.08 | Mr_Rabies | http://0.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/82/53/3365478dd08846328433f1406fbeca99.jpg do this |
| 02:58.50 | fewyn | are you calling me fat? |
| 03:00.42 | Mr_Rabies | you're probably thinner than me :v |
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| 03:02.21 | fewyn | =p |
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| 03:09.50 | mckenziemc | the turkey was fattened up for Thanksgiving to get you fattened up for Christmas dinner! |
| 03:11.12 | fewyn | you watched arrow this week Mr_Rabies ? |
| 03:11.27 | Mr_Rabies | haven't watched any of the arrowverse stuff after last season |
| 03:11.48 | fewyn | this season is waaaay better |
| 03:12.00 | Mr_Rabies | arrow in particular was so bad i almost dropped it, i did drop legends of tomorrow midway through the season |
| 03:12.12 | fewyn | legends is better too |
| 03:12.17 | Mr_Rabies | flash was okay but |
| 03:12.24 | Mr_Rabies | i just wanted to take a break from that universe |
| 03:12.27 | fewyn | flash is the worst out of all of them |
| 03:12.30 | fewyn | tbqh |
| 03:12.35 | Mr_Rabies | the writers, especially beth schwartz, need to be fired |
| 03:12.37 | Mr_Rabies | out of a cannon |
| 03:12.38 | Mr_Rabies | into the sun |
| 03:13.16 | Torhal | LoT is much better now. Still all kinds of campy, but not nearly as much. |
| 03:13.38 | fewyn | yep |
| 03:14.14 | Mr_Rabies | every time some of the more talented writers fixed schwartz's problems last season she'd come back in and ruin everything |
| 03:14.25 | Mr_Rabies | mostly all the really, really bad felicity episodes |
| 03:14.42 | fewyn | thankfully felicity episodes are pretty much ded |
| 03:14.53 | Mr_Rabies | i hope felicity is pretty much ded forever |
| 03:14.57 | Mr_Rabies | i actually like the actress |
| 03:15.14 | Mr_Rabies | but her character is so done for as of last season it's unrecoverable |
| 03:15.54 | Mr_Rabies | and felicity's mom episodes were all beth schwartz, i think :( |
| 03:16.03 | Mr_Rabies | she was basically writing her own mom into the arrowverse and it was terrible |
| 03:17.08 | fewyn | yeah |
| 03:17.16 | fewyn | they've gone a better way this season |
| 03:17.22 | fewyn | and the midseason finale was good |
| 03:17.29 | fewyn | the cliffhanger tho |
| 03:17.32 | fewyn | :/ |
| 03:17.36 | Torhal | Very WAT at the end. |
| 03:17.58 | fewyn | i know it was like |
| 03:18.03 | fewyn | i wasn't expecting that |
| 03:18.05 | Mr_Rabies | jojo's bizarre adventure has taken over my life and the villain this part is so good i'm gonna have a hard time with lesser villains in fiction in the future |
| 03:18.28 | Torhal | But yeah, last season I believe their motto for writing was "Let's see how much awkward and cringe we can throw into this!" |
| 03:18.41 | Mr_Rabies | what if someone was as quirky as, and looked like david bowie, but had a personality more like patrick bateman |
| 03:24.21 | Mr_Rabies | https://youtu.be/8WL0-Q4UgLU JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 4 spoilers if anyone cares (no one cares) |
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| 04:50.51 | karl_w_w | this man is Danish https://i.imgur.com/E5CsE14.png |
| 04:51.49 | karl_w_w | he's also a potato farmer |
| 04:53.53 | Mr_Rabies | when you work with potato for so long, you become potato |
| 04:54.02 | Mr_Rabies | as is custom in latvia |
| 04:54.05 | fewyn | this man is also danish http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/2/26/LennartBedrager.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/300?cb=20161118003419 |
| 04:55.44 | mckenziemc | is that Fisker, karl_w_w? |
| 04:56.02 | karl_w_w | it might be! |
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| 04:59.26 | mckenziemc | maybe Iriel knows |
| 05:00.39 | karl_w_w | source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl9w74PBncA |
| 05:00.52 | karl_w_w | I'm sure Fisker would say that stuff, he seems like a pretty cool guy |
| 05:01.08 | karl_w_w | who doesn't afraid of anything |
| 05:01.19 | Iriel | ? |
| 05:01.56 | karl_w_w | mckenziemc thinks this might be Fisker, Iriel https://i.imgur.com/E5CsE14.png |
| 05:02.11 | Iriel | That is not fisker. |
| 05:02.33 | Iriel | At least, not any time recently. |
| 05:03.14 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w's the one who said it might be D: |
| 05:03.35 | karl_w_w | lies and slander! |
| 05:08.39 | mckenziemc | and danes |
| 05:09.48 | mckenziemc | no great danes though |
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| 05:39.37 | mckenziemc | https://www.pololu.com/category/36/pololu-products-that-use-the-cp2102 |
| 05:39.47 | mckenziemc | quite a useful category that is |
| 05:52.23 | tz | that's ridiculously expensive for a cp2102 part |
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| 06:12.05 | Kinesia | Is the NPCScan person in? |
| 06:12.59 | Torhal | Kinesia: ...maybe? |
| 06:14.38 | Torhal | Kinesia: Seriously, though; what's up? |
| 06:20.54 | tz | anybody know if talent IDs can change based on in-game state? |
| 06:21.06 | tz | not spell IDs, I know they change based on talents and shit |
| 06:21.36 | tz | e.g. row 2, column 3 will always be 2512562 for your favourite class/spec combo |
| 06:25.04 | Semlar | unless they change the talent |
| 06:25.30 | tz | that's what I figured |
| 06:25.33 | tz | cheers |
| 06:25.50 | mckenziemc | tz: i don't think they intend for it to sell in any significant volume: their 2104 board is cheaper |
| 06:26.04 | Semlar | but if the row/column is important then you could just store those |
| 06:26.32 | tz | I have row/column now, I'm trying to cater for PTR conversion and whatnot without having to deal with patch changes |
| 07:00.04 | Kinesia | Hi Torhal, Core.lua, line 17, can't find libsink |
| 07:00.11 | _Kee | About 10+ World quests just spawned, ALL (without exceptions) in Stormheim. Is it intended? o.0 first time see this. http://benio.me/pub/res/img/wow/Sotrmheim.png |
| 07:01.27 | _Kee | anyway, this will be less flying, I think. |
| 07:04.49 | Torhal | Kinesia: In the version I just released? |
| 07:07.02 | _Kee | got 875 ilvl relic instead of 835 :o Well, still worse than my current one. |
| 07:11.51 | Kinesia | Yes Torhal, it just updated in curse client. I had an error before and had it disabled but renenabled it after update. |
| 07:13.22 | Torhal | Kinesia: Did you exit out of the game before enabling? The old version you had installed didn't have the library - WoW won't klnow about files that are added while it's running. |
| 07:13.36 | Kinesia | Ah, cool, will try that. |
| 07:13.45 | Iriel | Finally, OW placement complete. |
| 07:13.59 | Torhal | There was an issue where the client was installing -nolib versions instead of normal versions. |
| 07:14.10 | Torhal | They fixed it, so I pushed a new version a few hours ago. |
| 07:15.17 | Kinesia | Ah, makes sense |
| 07:15.44 | mckenziemc | fixes Torhal. |
| 07:15.56 | Torhal | spays mckenziemc. |
| 07:18.42 | mckenziemc | sprays Torhal and hugs Cairenn. |
| 07:18.52 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
| 07:19.30 | Torhal | deflates mckenziemc using the LZ77 algorithm and Huffman encoding. |
| 07:20.28 | mckenziemc | sends Torhal to bed early. |
| 07:20.49 | Torhal | Yay, sleep! |
| 07:22.33 | _Kee | ok just got 830 ilvl drop, never ever saw such a shitty low ilvl drop from wq. something is definitelly wrong today with WQs. |
| 07:22.42 | Kinesia | Sweet dreams sweet prince. (No error. Now to find a rare.) |
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| 13:10.51 | VIad | nevcairiel: WTB old volcanic effect |
| 13:10.57 | VIad | it was more visual and easy to spot :/ |
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| 13:40.09 | Semlar | heal through it |
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| 14:43.36 | aelen | hey all, if I'm using `f:SetScript('OnUpdate', ...)`, how can I remove that handler function again the first time it runs? |
| 14:44.07 | Shockah | f:SetScript('OnUpdate', nil) inside the function you passed there |
| 14:47.04 | aelen | cool, ta :) |
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| 14:53.08 | Tomaz^ | ok, I'm stuck again, if I know the speciesID of a battle pet, how can I tell if I already own it? |
| 14:53.45 | Semlar | iterate over all your pets until you find one that matches that species ID? |
| 14:53.49 | Tomaz^ | I get the info if I loop over ALL pets using C_PetJournal.GetPetInfoByIndex( i ), but now I only know the speciesID |
| 14:53.56 | Tomaz^ | really, hmm, ok |
| 14:54.22 | Tomaz^ | I know ther eis an GetPetInfoBySpeciesID, but that didnät return the owned flag |
| 14:58.29 | Semlar | local numOwned, maxAllowed = C_PetJournal.GetNumCollectedInfo(speciesID) |
| 15:00.04 | Tomaz^ | oohh! |
| 15:00.15 | Tomaz^ | that should work |
| 15:03.22 | Tomaz^ | lua allows me to do this? return numOwned < 0 |
| 15:03.35 | Semlar | yes |
| 15:03.37 | Tomaz^ | well, return numOwned > 0 of course |
| 15:07.57 | Tomaz^ | would that return 0 and 1, or true / false or what does it return? |
| 15:08.15 | nevcairiel | comparisons return true/false |
| 15:11.39 | Neffi | aelen: if applicable, its worth noting that OnUpdate doesn't fire if the frame is hidden. So if you want to occasionally stop the handler from executing for a period of time, you can hide the frame. |
| 15:15.25 | Tomaz^ | ok, time to test this :D |
| 15:18.38 | Tomaz^ | seems to work, old and new code returns the same amount on not owned pets on AH |
| 15:23.05 | Tomaz^ | hmmm, darn it |
| 15:23.14 | Tomaz^ | didn't work on companion pets.. |
| 15:27.40 | fewyn | i blew my lifetime luck this weekend |
| 15:27.41 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/fewyn/status/807607620500619264 |
| 15:33.53 | fewyn | i had invincible last night and mimiron's head today |
| 15:34.04 | Tomaz^ | nice |
| 15:34.32 | fewyn | i wonder what the odds are on that |
| 15:34.36 | Tomaz^ | I got my Infinite Reaver on my first TW dungeon ever |
| 15:34.48 | Tomaz^ | Lets just say lots of guildies got pissed off :P |
| 15:35.41 | fewyn | yeah but i've been running ICC and Ulduar pretty consistently for many many years |
| 15:36.03 | fewyn | i wasn't actually running them anymore for the mounts |
| 15:36.17 | fewyn | the pets are the real thing i was after for selling on the AH |
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| 21:14.44 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/hwspglh.png |
| 21:14.47 | znf | hardest quest in the game |
| 21:15.54 | Alram | thats how i always do it ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 21:16.17 | znf | yeah |
| 21:16.19 | znf | since beta |
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| 21:37.20 | tz | MH warglaive #6, OH still zero |
| 21:37.21 | tz | sigh |
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| 22:25.14 | Ssateneth | soooooooo yeah |
| 22:25.59 | Ssateneth | looks like curse app doesn't need premium sub to automatically update addons in the background without clicking anything |
| 22:26.27 | Ssateneth | which is nice because i didn't have premium to begin with and used a crack when it was curse client. Whoops. |
| 22:26.38 | Ssateneth | is naughty |
| 22:31.03 | tz | didn't they essentially give premium for the first few months or something? |
| 22:31.08 | tz | with the new app |
| 22:36.40 | Ssateneth | no idea |
| 22:37.02 | Ssateneth | i was 'forced' to use the app once curse client stopped giving updated addons at all |
| 22:37.34 | Ssateneth | some devs were saying to use the app to get the updated versions of their addons |
| 22:37.43 | Ssateneth | because of a curse thing |
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| 23:37.28 | fewyn | huh now that i have invinicible and mimiron's head what to do |
| 23:39.30 | zenzelezz | now you need his invincible head |
